Quote from kb2222:

Are you blind to how screwed up you are that you can't honestly answer questions and respond with total evasive nonsense as you do?

Why do you seek "pure consciousness" or "nothingness" that doesn't care what anyone does, asanb? Why do you want to become the "impersonal it" you believe God is, asanb? Why in the world would that be your goal?

If you understood even the basics of Eastern religions, or transcendentalism, or paganism, or anything beyond Abrahamic stagnation, we could have a meaningful discussion. But allas.....

kb wrote:"Why do you seek "pure consciousness" or "nothingness" that doesn't care what anyone does, asanb? Why do you want to become the "impersonal it" you believe God is, asanb? Why in the world would that be your goal?"

This isn't a question, it's an indictment. It's like the the Inquisition asking a tortured subject how long they have been worshiping Satan.

Your "question" infers too much that isn't me because it's a twisted hash of something similar to what I might have said, taken out of context.

Ask me a question that isn't loaded and skewed.

Why don't I answer? I guess I just don't feel like being bullied or coerced into answering loaded questions, or even unloaded ones.
Let's have a discussion, instead.
One where you state your ideas, and ask if I concur, and we talk about the differences in our opinions without calling names or rudely demanding answers.

Every animal on the planet is an atheist just as every new born human is an atheist until indoctrinated. Yet the term atheist can only exist if someone needs to distinguish beliefs in fantasy and imaginary beings from those to don't who, of course, would be the atheist.

A life after death is nonsense self-contradictory statement. If you worship death as life, that's not just absurd but pathological.

You are beginning to babble too much for me. Who worships death as life?

What's contradictory about living and desiring life (continuity of existence) after death?

Where is your common sense?

Animals and new born humans have no beliefs about the existence of God and that doesn't make them atheists.

Those who deny the existence of God and call themselves atheists have make a deliberate CHOICE to forsake the things that are of God. Foolish, egotistical and self-destructive. That's what atheists are.

So then why are you an atheist? You deny Zeus, father of all gods?

As you will too. When you're dead, you're dead. Unfortunately as a living ignoramus, much of your intellect is already dead. This is one of the reasons you worship death and think incoherently.

I find within my soul a deep appreciation for the concept of the Fatherhood of God

and the brotherhood of man that Jesus taught

and I don't recall any ancient God teaching this brotherly love for your fellowman

nor calling upon man to "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:48

You on the other hand I take it even deny you even have a soul, right?

So, you choose to forsake the things of God and remain spiritually dead..

... and to stay dead after death overtakes you and if you think that is so smart - you are simply irrational and/or/deluded.

Obviously, you choose to ignore what I said. Look, Yasureoktoo, if you choose to forsake the things of God and remain spiritually dead and to stay dead after death overtakes you and you think that is so smart of you - then go right ahead. God is not going to force or coerce you to believe and neither am I. Stay in the grave if that's your desire.

Belief, faith and desire do not have substance and you know it so why do you foolishly ask for substance? If you have no desire to live after death then stay in the grave and remain dead. And if you think that's smart you're and intellectual idiot bent on self-destruction.

1:5.12 (29.2) In the contemplation of Deity, the concept of personality must be divested of the idea of corporeality. A material body is not indispensable to personality in either man or God. The corporeality error is shown in both extremes of human philosophy. In materialism, since man loses his body at death, he ceases to exist as a personality; in pantheism, since God has no body, he is not, therefore, a person. The superhuman type of progressing personality functions in a union of mind and spirit.

1:5.13 (29.3) Personality is not simply an attribute of God; it rather stands for the totality of the co-ordinated infinite nature and the unified divine will which is exhibited in eternity and universality of perfect expression. Personality, in the supreme sense, is the revelation of God to the universe of universes.

1:5.14 (29.4) God, being eternal, universal, absolute, and infinite, does not grow in knowledge nor increase in wisdom. God does not acquire experience, as finite man might conjecture or comprehend, but he does, within the realms of his own eternal personality, enjoy those continuous expansions of self-realization which are in certain ways comparable to, and analogous with, the acquirement of new experience by the finite creatures of the evolutionary worlds.

1:5.15 (29.5) The absolute perfection of the infinite God would cause him to suffer the awful limitations of unqualified finality of perfectness were it not a fact that the Universal Father directly participates in the personality struggle of every imperfect soul in the wide universe who seeks, by divine aid, to ascend to the spiritually perfect worlds on high. This progressive experience of every spirit being and every mortal creature throughout the universe of universes is a part of the Father’s ever-expanding Deity-consciousness of the never-ending divine circle of ceaseless self-realization.




1:6.8 (30.7) God is spirit — spirit personality; man is also a spirit — potential spirit personality. Jesus of Nazareth attained the full realization of this potential of spirit personality in human experience; therefore his life of achieving the Father’s will becomes man’s most real and ideal revelation of the personality of God. Even though the personality of the Universal Father can be grasped only in actual religious experience, in Jesus’ earth life we are inspired by the perfect demonstration of such a realization and revelation of the personality of God in a truly human experience.

1:7.1 (31.1) When Jesus talked about “the living God,” he referred to a personal Deity — the Father in heaven. The concept of the personality of Deity facilitates fellowship; it favors intelligent worship; it promotes refreshing trustfulness. Interactions can be had between nonpersonal things, but not fellowship. The fellowship relation of father and son, as between God and man, cannot be enjoyed unless both are persons. Only personalities can commune with each other, albeit this personal communion may be greatly facilitated by the presence of just such an impersonal entity as the Thought Adjuster.

1:7.2 (31.2) Man does not achieve union with God as a drop of water might find unity with the ocean. Man attains divine union by progressive reciprocal spiritual communion, by personality intercourse with the personal God, by increasingly attaining the divine nature through wholehearted and intelligent conformity to the divine will. Such a sublime relationship can exist only between personalities. -TUB

Aphrodisianus, you are obviously psychologically damaged as a matter of choice and if you choose to forsake the things of God and remain spiritually dead and to stay dead in the grave when death overtakes you and you think that is so "smart" of you - then, go right ahead.

God is not going to force or coerce you to believe and neither am I. Stay in the grave if that's your desire.

You've posted garbage.

Well, bingo, if you have no desire to live after death then stay in the grave and remain dead.