Jesus is coming again

12/30/2015 3:43:28 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Matthew 27:53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[a] went into the holy city and appeared to many people. I would imagine that would have have smelled really bad. Dead rotting flesh especially with maggots is just putrid. You think someone would have written about it. I guess no one did because it was a common occurrence for dead people to go visit old friends and relatives. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
12/30/2015 4:00:30 AM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	When we reject the pope we reject Jesus, and when we reject Jesus we reject God the Father.
12/30/2015 4:04:04 AM	Jesus is coming again
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from ludlowlowell: When we reject the pope we reject Jesus, and when we reject Jesus we reject God the Father. Exactly! You finally get what we have been trying to tell you. Its all bullshit! Peace
12/30/2015 6:16:58 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: When we reject the pope we reject Jesus, and when we reject Jesus we reject God the Father. You don't reject mental illness. You reject mental health.
12/30/2015 7:42:37 AM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 67, joined May. 2010	hmmmm....
12/30/2015 1:22:00 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from ludlowlowell: When we reject the pope we reject Jesus, and when we reject Jesus we reject God the Father. But you don't even love God, according to Jesus. You refuse to obey Him and you defy Him by doing exactly what Jesus tells you not to do and you claim that Jesus' words are not to be taken seriously and the apostle John says you do not have the truth in you. You cannot deny these things. "Call no man your father upon the earth: "for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Matthew 23:9) Jesus: "Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46) "If a man love me, he will keep my words."(John 14:23) "He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings." (John 14:24) And the word which you have heard, is not mine; but the Father's who sent me." (John 14:24) He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1Jn 2:4) And the word which you have heard, is not mine; but the Father's who sent me." (John 14:24)
12/30/2015 1:32:36 PM	Jesus is coming again
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 75, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: When we reject the pope we reject Jesus, and when we reject Jesus we reject God the Father. The Pope should be rejected. He is no more a "Holy Father" than you are and he is not striving to believe as Jesus believed anymore than you are, Ludlow.
12/30/2015 3:10:05 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 67, joined May. 2010	Praise God! Jesus is coming.
12/30/2015 4:24:08 PM	Jesus is coming again
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014	Quote from sail_dancer: Christians have been seeing those signs for 2000 years now ..... I have news for you ..... it ain't gonna happen. Peace your mama told u life is a box of chocalates
12/30/2015 10:02:44 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 67, joined May. 2010
12/31/2015 6:40:13 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from cupocheer: Praise God! Jesus is coming. Loss of mind is a loss of life. Religious delusions means you'll grow old and die without ever living an authentic and honest life.
12/31/2015 8:57:06 AM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Only followers of Christ live truly honest and authentic lives.
12/31/2015 9:03:30 AM	Jesus is coming again
clarence2 South Yorkshire United Kingdom 58, joined May. 2011	. Quote from ludlowlowell: Only followers of Christ live truly honest and authentic lives. That's a mindless thing to say. It reminds me of this quote by George Orwell from his book 1984 "Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."
12/31/2015 11:20:06 AM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from ludlowlowell: Only followers of Christ live truly honest and authentic lives. I think one would have to love "Christ" in order to be His follower, and according to Him, you don't love Him because of your disobedience and defiance of His sayings, thus, you are not His follower, thus, you cannot live a truly honest and authentic life, according to you. By the way, what is an "authentic life," can you say? What do the homosexual, pedophile priests tell you about that? What does the so-called "Holy Father" in Rome tell you about that? "If a man love me, he will keep my words."(John 14:23) "He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings." (John 14:24) And the word which you have heard, is not mine; but the Father's who sent me." (John 14:24) He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1Jn 2:4) The truth is not in you. The Catholic church is an abomination. Proverbs 11:20 They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD.
12/31/2015 11:22:19 AM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from clarence2: . Quote from ludlowlowell: Only followers of Christ live truly honest and authentic lives. That's a mindless thing to say. Indeed. It's a baseless assertion. Ludlow makes baseless assertions all the time, one after the other.
12/31/2015 12:02:02 PM	Jesus is coming again
smthgabouther Baltimore, MD 35, joined Dec. 2012	The Islamic Prophet Isa may return but "Jesus" sure ain't.
12/31/2015 12:57:42 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	How do you know Jesus won't return?
12/31/2015 1:51:58 PM	Jesus is coming again
clarence2 South Yorkshire United Kingdom 58, joined May. 2011	Isa is the name for the Muslim version of Jesus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
12/31/2015 2:09:20 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	So Smthgobouther is a hair splitter?
12/31/2015 2:14:07 PM	Jesus is coming again
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: So Smthgobouther is a hair splitter? Don't worry, lud, he won't be able to split yours...
12/31/2015 2:39:52 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	That's for sure!
12/31/2015 3:34:30 PM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: Only followers of Christ live truly honest and authentic lives. If you were honest with yourself you would find a mental health professional.
12/31/2015 4:13:29 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from ludlowlowell: Only followers of Christ live truly honest and authentic lives. WHAT IS AN "AUTHENTIC LIFE"? Give examples of an authentic life versus an inauthentic life. And what is a "truly honest" life, compared say, to just a plain old vanilla regular honest life? And give examples of what a follower of Christ is? Is it someone, or some church, that says that Jesus' words are not to be taken seriously if that person or church doesn't want to take them seriously? That sounds more like a follower of Satan to me.
12/31/2015 4:23:50 PM	Jesus is coming again
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: That's for sure! Lud, daaaaaaaling, I was referring to your hair...lack of. LOL
12/31/2015 5:27:06 PM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: How do you know Jesus won't return? You and smh having a debate. You're both stupid ignorant morons. Dead people are dead. Go watch an autopsy in person. See if the dead are squirming around. Has there been any news about dead people jumping out of caskets at funeral parlors?
12/31/2015 5:46:20 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 67, joined May. 2010
12/31/2015 6:25:40 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Dead people's bodies are dead, but their souls live forever, either in Heaven or Hell.
12/31/2015 6:47:27 PM	Jesus is coming again
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from ludlowlowell: Dead people's bodies are dead, but their souls live forever, either in Heaven or Hell. Have you ever seen a soul? ..... touched a soul? ..... talked to a soul? I think you have to prove souls exist before you make a post like that. Peace
12/31/2015 7:29:05 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from ludlowlowell: Dead people's bodies are dead, but their souls live forever, either in Heaven or Hell. There is no Hell, lud.
12/31/2015 7:37:55 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 67, joined May. 2010	How do you know, FJO?
12/31/2015 7:57:25 PM	Jesus is coming again
nonstandard York, PA 53, joined Jun. 2009	Quote from ludlowlowell: Dead people's bodies are dead, but their souls live forever, either in Heaven or Hell. Dead peoples bodies are not dead , they're changing into new bodies . Physical matter lives forever , everything comes from it , everything returns to it , everything comes from it again . The soul never leaves the arena , it chaperones the whole event . Hell is the realization that heaven was always right under our noses . If we realize now , then hell cant touch us .
12/31/2015 7:59:33 PM	Jesus is coming again
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from cupocheer: How do you know, FJO? ?????????????????????????? Peace
1/1/2016 12:59:41 AM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from cupocheer: How do you know, FJO? A lot of people know it, cup. Do some Googling on it. Ask Bigd about it. He's wrong about some things but he's right about this. If one knows God then one knows that God would never create such a place or do such things to anyone. If a person says there is a Hell that God created to eternally torture people and punish them, then that person doesn't know God. Ludlow doesn't know God. Telling people that there is a Hell and that God tortures and punishes people for not loving Him is blasphemy against God. Hell is a Christian creation. According to people here who know, and I'm thinking of Bigd and others, there is no Hell in the so-called Old Testament which is 80% of the bible. So what happens to people who can't or won't stop being "bad"? Paul said it: "For the wages of sin is death;" (Rom 6:23) Death in this case is total personality extinction, to become as if you never were. And the person that it happens to brings it on himself or herself. God is the reality of the Universe. People who defy that reality become more and more unreal until they finally disappear like the Cheshire Cat.
1/1/2016 9:25:26 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from nonstandard: Dead peoples bodies are not dead , they're changing into new bodies . Really? That sounds like the Hydra when you cut one head off two grow back. Have there been any incidents when an embalmer or medical examiner doing an autopsy sees little bodies running out of the corpse? Physical matter lives forever , Absolutely not. Physical matter can be destroyed and that actually is the basis of the atomic bomb. E=MC2. What cannot be created or destroyed is energy. The soul never leaves the arena , it chaperones the whole event . So the soul is an "it". Have you seen this "it". Can you examine "it"? How would you know "it" exists? Hell is the realization that heaven was always right under our noses . If we realize now , then hell cant touch us . Sounds poetic. Poetry about the soul isn't about facts. It's about emotions and state of mind.
1/1/2016 9:53:12 AM	Jesus is coming again
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 75, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from followjesusonly: A lot of people know it, cup. Do some Googling on it. Ask Bigd about it. He's wrong about some things but he's right about this. If one knows God then one knows that God would never create such a place or do such things to anyone. If a person says there is a Hell that God created to eternally torture people and punish them, then that person doesn't know God. Ludlow doesn't know God. Telling people that there is a Hell and that God tortures and punishes people for not loving Him is blasphemy against God. Hell is a Christian creation. According to people here who know, and I'm thinking of Bigd and others, there is no Hell in the so-called Old Testament which is 80% of the bible. So what happens to people who can't or won't stop being "bad"? Paul said it: "For the wages of sin is death;" (Rom 6:23) Death in this case is total personality extinction, to become as if you never were. And the person that it happens to brings it on himself or herself. God is the reality of the Universe. People who defy that reality become more and more unreal until they finally disappear like the Cheshire Cat.
1/1/2016 10:03:40 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from kb2222: One cannot know what has no sound epistemological foundation. When there are no facts to be known and to say you know it means you are either deluding yourself or simply don't know what the word "know" means. Which is your case?
1/1/2016 12:57:39 PM	Jesus is coming again
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 75, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from aphrodisianus: One cannot know what has no sound epistemological foundation. When there are no facts to be known and to say you know it means you are either deluding yourself or simply don't know what the word "know" means. Which is your case? Well, you obviously being an atheist do not accept nor understand personality interaction with the unseen Creator-God, the divine personality that rules the universe and its my strong belief that I "know" a God of Love and righteousness does not cast those who refuse to love and abide in His will into a fiery pit of eternal torment and I "know" such a belief is a justified true belief.
1/1/2016 1:56:35 PM	Jesus is coming again
walt_oftheearth Avondale, AZ 61, joined Feb. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: Dead people's bodies are dead, but their souls live forever, either in Heaven or Hell. Quote from sail_dancer: Have you ever seen a soul? ..... touched a soul? ..... talked to a soul? I think you have to prove souls exist before you make a post like that. Peace The dogma of eternal torment is a throw back to the so called "great awakenings" in evangelistic revivals of the 1800s. A lot of fire and brimstone preaching that scared people into church. That is not a good idea. The dogma of eternal torment is based upon the false teaching that humans have eternal souls. Humans don't have souls, they are souls. Cf Genesis 2:7 -- "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. The dogma of the eternal soul has it's roots in ancient paganism, and was adopted as a doctrine, not by the early apostolic Church, but by Catholicism.
1/1/2016 1:58:05 PM	Jesus is coming again
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: How do you know Jesus won't return? Don't worry, lud, your Jesus is coming...look
1/1/2016 2:42:28 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 67, joined May. 2010	Quote from followjesusonly: A lot of people know it, cup. Do some Googling on it. Ask Bigd about it. He's wrong about some things but he's right about this. If one knows God then one knows that God would never create such a place or do such things to anyone. If a person says there is a Hell that God created to eternally torture people and punish them, then that person doesn't know God. Ludlow doesn't know God. Telling people that there is a Hell and that God tortures and punishes people for not loving Him is blasphemy against God. Hell is a Christian creation. According to people here who know, and I'm thinking of Bigd and others, there is no Hell in the so-called Old Testament which is 80% of the bible. So what happens to people who can't or won't stop being "bad"? Paul said it: "For the wages of sin is death;" (Rom 6:23) Death in this case is total personality extinction, to become as if you never were. And the person that it happens to brings it on himself or herself. God is the reality of the Universe. People who defy that reality become more and more unreal until they finally disappear like the Cheshire Cat. Thank you for your explanation. Let's see if I understand this correctly... If I sin in this earthly body...when the body dies the personality is extinguished... Okay, I can believe that ...but instead of fading slowly away till they are as if they never were... Why does God grant eternal life, rebirth, and salvation?
1/1/2016 4:03:52 PM	Jesus is coming again
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from walt_oftheearth: Quote from ludlowlowell: Dead people's bodies are dead, but their souls live forever, either in Heaven or Hell. Quote from sail_dancer: Have you ever seen a soul? ..... touched a soul? ..... talked to a soul? I think you have to prove souls exist before you make a post like that. Peace The dogma of eternal torment is a throw back to the so called "great awakenings" in evangelistic revivals of the 1800s. A lot of fire and brimstone preaching that scared people into church. That is not a good idea. The dogma of eternal torment is based upon the false teaching that humans have eternal souls. Humans don't have souls, they are souls. Cf Genesis 2:7 -- "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. The dogma of the eternal soul has it's roots in ancient paganism, and was adopted as a doctrine, not by the early apostolic Church, but by Catholicism. I have posted and commented on Genesis 2:7 many times in the past ..... but no one seems to comprehend what it says. I agree with you on this one, Walt. Peace
1/1/2016 4:31:59 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from cupocheer: Thank you for your explanation. Let's see if I understand this correctly... If I sin in this earthly body...when the body dies the personality is extinguished... I don't think I said that, or at least I didn't mean to. I don't think that all decisions about these matters necessarily have to be made here. When Christians quote Jesus saying, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me," (John 14:6)... ...what they mean to make Jesus say is, "You must believe as we do that Jesus died for your sins, and you must believe it right here and right now or else God will torture you for all eternity," but Jesus doesn't put that time limit on it. Christians add it, it's understood when they say it, right here and right now or else! And too, Jesus was also speaking geographically and spiritually when He said, "no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." On our journey to Paradise we will go to where Jesus is, on the way. I think most everyone will make it to to the "mansions" that Jesus talked about (John 14:2). There, to have everything explained to them by God's agents, angels and such, away from this madhouse and a million different preachers and thousands of different sects all screaming that they have the truth, they are supreme, and so on. I think everyone will be able to make an informed decision there, on the mansions. Those who say you must decide this or that before you die are adding their own little bit to what Jesus said. Nor do I think a single "sin" whatever that is, will condemn anyone. But habitual "sin" becomes iniquity. God will give us all the rope we need to hang ourselves, before mortal death and after. What are "sins," anyway? Is there a laundry list of them? Or is sin simply the unethical and unloving treatment of our fellow men and women in God;s family? The Catholic church tells its members that missing Mass on Sunday is a mortal sin. Surely God doesn't care anything about that. But if you miss mass on Sunday, you miss the chance to put your money in the donation plate they pass around. Okay, I can believe that ...but instead of fading slowly away till they are as if they never were... Well, my Chesire Cat analogy was just an analogy. But the entire process of becoming more and more iniquitous and unreal is a slow process and God allows plenty of time for it and for such an evil one to turn about and go right. Why does God grant eternal life, rebirth, and salvation? I don't know. Perhaps He wants to give all His creation, all the freewill creatures in His creation, the chance to become perfect as He is. Perhaps He wants everyone to be able to share in the joy of earned perfection. I think some Christians think that once they die and are saved, God is going to wave a magic wand and make them perfect, no matter if they were a jerk till the day the died down here. That's a fantasy. "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48)
1/1/2016 4:52:33 PM	Jesus is coming again
josiemae District Heights, MD 59, joined Jan. 2008	Quote from cupocheer: Thank you for your explanation. Let's see if I understand this correctly... If I sin in this earthly body...when the body dies the personality is extinguished... Okay, I can believe that ...but instead of fading slowly away till they are as if they never were... Why does God grant eternal life, rebirth, and salvation? Very good question, that too I would like to know.
1/1/2016 5:34:49 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Some people believe that when unrepentant sinners die they don't go to Hell, they just cease to exist. Apparently the Urantia Book calls this "extinction of personality". Other groups may have other names for this. Of course this is completely against what Jesus taught---Jesus taught on many occasions that unrepentant sinners go to Hell forever.
1/1/2016 5:41:23 PM	Jesus is coming again
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from ludlowlowell: Some people believe that when unrepentant sinners die they don't go to Hell, they just cease to exist. Apparently the Urantia Book calls this "extinction of personality". Other groups may have other names for this. Of course this is completely against what Jesus taught---Jesus taught on many occasions that unrepentant sinners go to Hell forever. We were talking about what a soul is ..... and you respond with that? Peace
1/1/2016 6:01:59 PM	Jesus is coming again
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 75, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: Some people believe that when unrepentant sinners die they don't go to Hell, they just cease to exist. Apparently the Urantia Book calls this "extinction of personality". Other groups may have other names for this. Why don't you read FJO post just above yours and stop lying? Of course this is completely against what Jesus taught---Jesus taught on many occasions that unrepentant sinners go to Hell forever. If that's what you believe then why do you keep sinning?
1/1/2016 6:05:15 PM	Jesus is coming again
m_gonzales San Antonio, TX 26, joined Sep. 2012	Can't the big guy wait a few?
1/1/2016 7:00:10 PM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from kb2222: Well, you obviously being an atheist do not accept nor understand personality interaction with the unseen Creator-God, Actually I do understand the personalities of various gods because I've studied mythology. The particular Judeo/Christian god in particular has a psychopathic jealous petty personality who can be easily dissuaded in an argument as in the case with Moses (who by the way never existed). This is so because the people who invented this god had those qualities in themselves or may have wanted in themselves, the later being the case where the god is an alter ego. The part where you indicate "interaction" reveals a mental illness. Communicating with non-existent beings is a psychosis e.g. hallucinations and delusions. These are diagnosable mental conditions. If you're conversing with fictional creatures then you are mentally ill and so are the people who wrote the Urania, that is, if those writers aren't deliberately writing bullshit. So to say you "know" a god simply means you remember the dream or hallucination you had. In resliy you really don't know anything. [Edited 1/1/2016 7:02:38 PM ]
1/1/2016 8:04:17 PM	Jesus is coming again
cupocheer Assumption, IL 67, joined May. 2010	Jesus lives!
1/1/2016 9:26:33 PM	Jesus is coming again
walt_oftheearth Avondale, AZ 61, joined Feb. 2008	Quote from cupocheer: Thank you for your explanation. Let's see if I understand this correctly... ...when the body dies the personality is extinguished... Okay, I can believe that ...but instead of fading slowly away till they are as if they never were... Why does God grant eternal life, rebirth, and salvation? Quote from josiemae: Very good question, that too I would like to know. It is a gift. Some accept it. Others, for a myriad of reasons, refuse it.
1/1/2016 9:43:30 PM	Jesus is coming again
walt_oftheearth Avondale, AZ 61, joined Feb. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: Some people believe that when unrepentant sinners die they don't go to Hell, they just cease to exist. Of course this is completely against what Jesus taught---Jesus taught on many occasions that unrepentant sinners go to Hell forever. _______________________________________________________________________ No, that is not what He taught. When Jesus spoke of hell it was always the word Gehenna, which was the name of the city dump in Jerusalem. With no heavy equipment to bury trash as we do today, it was burned. And that fire never went out because people kept throwing more debris on it. Jesus simply warned not to let our lives wind up on the trash heap.
1/1/2016 10:08:07 PM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from ludlowlowell: Some people believe that when unrepentant sinners die they don't go to Hell, they just cease to exist. Apparently the Urantia Book calls this "extinction of personality". Other groups may have other names for this. Of course this is completely against what Jesus taught---Jesus taught on many occasions that unrepentant sinners go to Hell forever. Calling your priests, "Father" is completely against what Jesus taught. You don't even love God according to Jesus and the apostle John says you do not have the truth in you. You are an ignorant man when it comes to Hell, and a froward man when it comes to obeying God. The english word "Hell" in the New Testament means the Hebrew word Gehenna, a valley near Jerusalem. EVEN THE CATHOLIC BIBLE, THE NEW AMERICAN BIBLE DOESN’T HAVE JESUS USING THE WORD “HELL.” That’s how ignorant you are. Mt 5:29-* If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away.s It is better for you to lose one of your members than to have your whole body thrown into Gehenna. "Call no man your father upon the earth: "for one is your Father, which is in heaven." (Matthew 23:9) New Testament (wikipedia) In the synoptic gospels Jesus uses the word Gehenna 11 times to describe the opposite to life in the Kingdom (Mark 9:43-48).[28] It is a place where both soul and body could be destroyed (Matthew 10:28) in "unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43). Matthew 5:22: "....whoever shall say, "You fool," shall be guilty enough to go into Gehenna." Matthew 5:29: "....it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into Gehenna." Matthew 5:30: "....better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into Gehenna." Matthew 10:28: "....rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna." Matthew 18:9: "It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than with two eyes to be thrown into the Gehenna." Matthew 23:15: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you... make one proselyte...twice as much a child of Gehenna as yourselves." Matthew 23:33, to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how shall you to escape the sentence of Gehenna?" Mark 9:43: "It is better for you to enter life crippled, than having your two hands, to go into Gehenna into the unquenchable fire." Mark 9:45: "It is better for you to enter life lame, than having your two feet, to be cast into Gehenna." Mark 9:47: "It is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into Gehenna." Luke 12:5: "....fear the One who, after He has killed has authority to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, fear Him." James 3:6: "And the tongue is a fire,...and sets on fire the course of our life, and is set on fire by Gehenna." Gehenna is also mentioned in the Epistle of James 3:6, where it is said to set the tongue on fire, and the tongue in turn sets on fire the entire "course" or "wheel" of life. Translations in Christian Bibles[edit] The New Testament also refers to Hades as a place distinct from Gehenna. Unlike Gehenna, Hades typically conveys neither fire nor punishment but forgetfulness. John's vision in the Book of Revelation describes Hades being cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:14). The King James Version is the only English translation in modern use to translate Sheol, Hades, Tartarus, and Gehenna as Hell. The New International Version, New Living Translation, New American Standard Bible (among others) all reserve the term hell for the translation of Gehenna, transliterating Hades as a term directly from the equivalent Greek term. Treatment of Gehenna in Christianity is significantly affected by whether the distinction in Hebrew and Greek between Gehenna and Hades was maintained: Translations with a distinction: The 4th century Ulfilas (Wulfila) or Gothic Bible is the first Bible to use Hell's Proto-Germanic form Halja, and maintains a distinction between Hades and Gehenna. However, unlike later translations, Halja (Matt 11:23) is reserved for Hades,[29] and Gehenna is transliterated to Gaiainnan (Matt 5:30), which surprisingly is the opposite to modern translations that translate Gehenna into Hell and leave Hades untranslated (see below). The late 4th-century Latin Vulgate transliterates the Greek ??e??a "gehenna" with "gehennæ" (e.g. Matt 5:22) while using "infernus" ("coming from below, of the underworld") to translate ?d?? (Hades). The 19th century Young's Literal Translation and Rotherham's Emphasized Bible both try to be as literal a translation as possible and do not use the word Hell at all, keeping the words Hades and Gehenna untranslated. The 19th-century Arabic Van Dyck distinguishes Gehenna from Sheol. The 20th century New International Version, New Living Translation and New American Standard Bible reserve the term Hell only for when Gehenna is used. All translate Sheol and Hades in a different fashion. The exception to this is the New International Version's translation in Luke 16:23, which is its singular rendering of Hades as Hell. In texts in Greek, and consistently in the Eastern Orthodox Church, the distinctions present in the originals were often maintained. The Russian Synodal Bible (and one translation by the Old Church Slavonic) also maintain the distinction. In modern Russian, the concept of Hell (??) is directly derived from Hades (???), separate and independent of Gehenna. Fire imagery is attributed primarily to Gehenna, which is most commonly mentioned as Gehenna the Fiery (?????? ????????), and appears to be synonymous to the Lake of Fire. The New World Translation, used by Jehovah's Witnesses, maintains a distinction between Gehenna and Hades by transliterating Gehenna, and by rendering "Hades" (or "Sheol") as "the Grave". The term "hell" is not used for Gehenna (Matthew 5:22) or Hades (Acts 2:31). The word "hell" is not used in the New American Bible, except in a footnote in the book of Job translating an alternative passage from the Vulgate, in which the word corresponds to Jerome's "inferos," itself a translation of "sheol." "Gehenna" is untranslated, "Hades" either untranslated or rendered "netherworld," and "sheol" rendered "nether world." Translations without a distinction: The late 10th century Wessex Gospels and the 14th century Wycliffe Bible render both the Latin inferno and gehenna as Hell. The 16th century Tyndale and later translators had access to the Greek, but Tyndale translated both Gehenna and Hades as same English word, Hell. The 17th century King James Version of the Bible is the only English translation in modern use to translate Sheol, Hades, and Gehenna as Hell. Many modern Christians understand Gehenna to be a place of eternal punishment called hell.[30] Annihilationists understand Gehenna to be a place where sinners are eventually utterly destroyed, not tormented with literal pain forever. Christian Universalists, who believe that God will eventually reconcile all souls to himself, interpret the New Testament references to Gehenna in the context of the Old Testament and conclude that it always refers to the imminent divine judgment of Israel and not to everlasting torment for the unsaved.[citation needed]
1/1/2016 11:06:59 PM	Jesus is coming again
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Gehenna=Hell.
1/2/2016 12:46:08 AM	Jesus is coming again
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012 online now!	Quote from ludlowlowell: Gehenna=Hell. You're just unteachable, aren't you? My my. Gehenna = Hell. Father = Pops, except that you don't have the nerve to act on that one and call your priests, "Pops," and Church = Jesus. And I quote you: Jesus IS the Church, and the Church is Jesus. Jesus=Church Church=Jesus Jesus=Church Church=Jesus Jesus=Church Church=Jesus What a lost soul you are to have allowed your church to equal and usurp God in your 121 IQ mind.
1/2/2016 3:25:01 AM	Jesus is coming again
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from ludlowlowell: Gehenna=Hell. That may be the christian claim ..... but history tells a different story ..... I would have to agree with Walt again on his opinion about Gehenna ..... I must be loosing it. Peace
1/2/2016 8:47:08 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	This thread is about the delusion of someone who supposedly exited 2000 years ago coming back to life. You would think someone who is freshly dead would have a better chance. People have been misdiagnosed as dead and some have even woken up on autopsy tables just before they were sawed open. How many weren't so lucky? Fact is once you're dead you ain't getting up again. The bullshit in the bible about a bunch of dead people rising written in Matthew 27:53 didn't happen. And besides, no contemporary writer wrote about that either. The ridiculous belief that some dude who supposedly lived 2000 years ago is going to rise from their grave is asinine. Such religious beliefs sustains the weak minded, deluded and ignorant religious fanatic. Their worship of death is fear based ignorance and superstition. They like most everyone else don't want to die. It's just a fact of life that only authentic, honest, and emotionally mature individuals can accept. [Edited 1/2/2016 8:47:38 AM ]
1/2/2016 9:09:24 AM	Jesus is coming again
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 75, joined Apr. 2011	The faith sons/daughters of God do not worship death. Where did you get that crazy idea? They believe in and worship a God of love who grants life after death for those who seek Him. Materialistic mind-dominated atheists like you have no spiritual value, no purpose in living and no destiny beyond the grave and if you think that is "wise" it only shows how dishonest, rebellious and self-destructive you are.
1/2/2016 9:15:31 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from kb2222: The faith sons/daughters of God do not worship death. Of course they do. To get to heaven you have to get dead. Where did you get that crazy idea? Crazy ideas is what you're best at posting. See below. They believe in and worship a God of love who grants life after death for those who seek Him. Materialistic mind-dominated atheists like you have no spiritual value, no purpose in living and no destiny beyond the grave and if you think that is "wise" it only shows how dishonest, rebellious and self-destructive you are. It's quite "crazy" to worship and believe in the Wizard of Oz is going to get you brain and eternal life. This is exactly the kinds of nonsense you believe in because you're irrational, superstitious and ignorant about reality. You are in denial that you worship death but also have suffered a kind of death from the neck up by your lack of rational, logical and critical thinking.
1/2/2016 9:37:30 AM	Jesus is coming again
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 75, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from aphrodisianus: It's quite "crazy" to worship and believe in the Wizard of Oz is going to get you brain and eternal life. This is exactly the kinds of nonsense you believe in because you're irrational, superstitious and ignorant about reality. You are in denial that you worship death but also have suffered a kind of death from the neck up by your lack of rational, logical and critical thinking. Where the hell is your brain? I don't worship death. If anything atheists like you worship death because you refuse to accept that consciousness of being can exist apart from a physical brain/body and I repeat: Materialistic mind-dominated atheists like you have no spiritual value, no purpose in living and no destiny beyond the grave and if you think that is "wise" it only shows how dishonest, rebellious and self-destructive you are.
1/2/2016 9:46:00 AM	Jesus is coming again
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from kb2222: Where the hell is your brain?[/qu I don't worship death. You're about to prove you do worship death. If anything atheists like you worship death because you refuse to accept that consciousness of being can exist apart from a physical brain/body and It doesn't and there is no evidence for it. The dead from the neck up theology is apparent. I repeat: Materialistic mind-dominated atheists like you have no spiritual value, no purpose in living and no destiny beyond the grave and if you think that is "wise" it only shows how dishonest, rebellious and self-destructive you are. What is dishonest is your denial of the death cult you're consumed by. I worship life by living it in the here and now and I'm having a really awesome time too. You're looking forward to a life in death because your present life is inadequate, unfulfilling and shorter as the years go by. I have no problem with dying because I know that I'm living now. You're already spiritually dead because your life is based on ignorance and superstition.

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