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3/17/2016 9:48:15 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

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We are not there yet.
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3/17/2016 10:30:03 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

wayn49
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Daniel and revelation tell us what to look for

king Nebuchadnezzar had a dream of a great statue and Daniel by the hand of God revealed to him the dream. you can find this in chapter 2. it tells us of 4 world leaders that would rule. the 4th kingdom would be different then the rest of them and would fall into 10 kingdoms. the 4th kingdom was Rome. Rome ruled from 168 BC to 476 AD. Rome fell between the years 351 AD and 476 AD. the 10 kingdoms that Rome fell into were part of western Europe. it even tells us that these kingdoms would never cleave to one another again as a world leader. many attempts to unite Europe have taken place but all has failed. what happens later is that God sets up his kingdom that destroys those kingdoms.

Daniel is given a vision in chapter 7. he sees 4 beast that arise from the sea. they are Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, Rome. and Rome divides into 10 kingdoms known as western Europe. but Daniel is given more detail of what would happen. this is what is said

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

in chapter 8 of Daniel we see the same vision but God is giving Daniel more detail in describing the vision. chapter 11 starts of with the time of the Medes-Persian empire which ruled from 539 BC to 331 BC. in this chapter it describes events from that time to the end of time in verse 45.

revelation gives us some of the same events that Daniel sees but picks it up and carries it to the time of the beast power/the antichrist/Apocalypse. as you read in revelation at the end God sets up his kingdom and sin is destroyed and a new heaven and earth

3/19/2016 8:23:50 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

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Revelation was written by a man in exile in an area filled with psychedelic psilocybin. Much even today still grows on Patmos.

John experienced 60000 Roman soldiers storming Jerusalem. Seems Armageddon already happened. Revelation is merely a result of that. Anyone coming from that and being stoned on hallucinogenics can only write about their own personal tragedy. Unbright Christians believe it's about the future. As a Jew who could write used Gematria, numerology to describe Nero. Nero was 666. All the letters in Hebrew are also numbers. Unbright Christians are making up their own fantasy.

3/19/2016 11:45:15 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

nonstandard
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If the latest deep sea drilling experiment was not capped , we would be experiencing it right now . It wouldn't be sudden , it would be long , and agonizing . I'd guess you could say , that it would be hell on earth .

The earth that we thought we could control , is controlling us , with its alluring mysteries , and our obscene visions , of wealth , and power over it .

3/19/2016 11:49:53 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

nonstandard
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We will find out too late , the idol that , WAS ALWAYS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US .

3/19/2016 1:34:05 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

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I want some Kosher Dill pickles.

3/19/2016 3:10:24 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

nonstandard
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It was kosher , long before , anyone coined the term .

3/19/2016 3:42:38 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

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Long before Adam and Eve ate its beautiful tasty apples .

3/23/2016 6:47:28 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

isna_la_wica
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Josephus described it. Here is an excerpt from his writings.

The Romans Destroy the Temple

at Jerusalem, 70 AD


Roman CenturianThe Roman legions surrounded the city and began to slowly squeeze the life out of the Jewish stronghold. By the year 70, the attackers had breached Jerusalem's outer walls and began a systematic ransacking of the city. The assault culminated in the burning and destruction of the Temple that served as the center of Judaism.

In victory, the Romans slaughtered thousands. Of those sparred from death: thousands more were enslaved and sent to toil in the mines of Egypt, others were dispersed to arenas throughout the Empire to be butchered for the amusement of the public. The Temple's sacred relics were taken to Rome where they were displayed in celebration of the victory.

The rebellion sputtered on for another three years and was finally extinguished in 73 AD with the fall of the various pockets of resistance including the stronghold at Masada.

"...the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy."

Our only first-hand account of the Roman assault on the Temple comes from the Jewish historian Josephus Flavius. Josephus was a former leader of the Jewish Revolt who had surrendered to the Romans and had won favor from Vespasian. In gratitude, Josephus took on Vespasian's family name - Flavius - as his own. We join his account as the Romans fight their way into the inner sanctum of the Temple:

"...the rebels shortly after attacked the Romans again, and a clash followed between the guards of the sanctuary and the troops who were putting out the fire inside the inner court; the latter routed the Jews and followed in hot pursuit right up to the Temple itself. Then one of the soldiers, without awaiting any orders and with no dread of so momentous a deed, but urged on by some supernatural force, snatched a blazing piece of wood and, climbing on another soldier's back, hurled the flaming brand through a low golden window that gave access, on the north side, to the rooms that surrounded the sanctuary. As the flames shot up, the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy; they flocked to the rescue, with no thought of sparing their lives or husbanding their strength; for the sacred structure that they had constantly guarded with such devotion was vanishing before their very eyes.

ADVERTISMENT

...No exhortation or threat could now restrain the impetuosity of the legions; for passion was in supreme command. Crowded together around the entrances, many were trampled down by their companions; others, stumbling on the smoldering and smoked-filled ruins of the porticoes, died as miserably as the defeated. As they drew closer to the Temple, they pretended not even to hear Caesar's orders, but urged the men in front to throw in more firebrands. The rebels were powerless to help; carnage and flight spread throughout.

Most of the slain were peaceful citizens, weak and unarmed, and they were butchered where they were caught. The heap of corpses mounted higher and higher about the altar; a stream of blood flowed down the Temple's steps, and the bodies of those slain at the top slipped to the bottom.

When Caesar failed to restrain the fury of his frenzied soldiers, and the fire could not be checked, he entered the building with his generals and looked at the holy place of the sanctuary and all its furnishings, which exceeded by far the accounts current in foreign lands and fully justified their splendid repute in our own.

As the flames had not yet penetrated to the inner sanctum, but were consuming the chambers that surrounded the sanctuary, Titus assumed correctly that there was still time to save the structure; he ran out and by personal appeals he endeavored to persuade his men to put out the fire, instructing Liberalius, a centurion of his bodyguard of lancers, to club any of the men who disobeyed his orders. But their respect for Caesar and their fear of the centurion's staff who was trying to check them were overpowered by their rage, their detestation of the Jews, and an utterly uncontrolled lust for battle.


TitusMost of them were spurred on, moreover, by the expectation of loot, convinced that the interior was full of money and dazzled by observing that everything around them was made of gold. But they were forestalled by one of those who had entered into the building, and who, when Caesar dashed out to restrain the troops, pushed a firebrand, in the darkness, into the hinges of the gate Then, when the flames suddenly shot up from the interior, Caesar and his generals withdrew, and no one was left to prevent those outside from kindling the blaze. Thus, in defiance of Caesar's wishes, the Temple was set on fire.

While the Temple was ablaze, the attackers plundered it, and countless people who were caught by them were slaughtered. There was no pity for age and no regard was accorded rank; children and old men, laymen and priests, alike were butchered; every class was pursued and crushed in the grip of war, whether they cried out for mercy or offered resistance.

Through the roar of the flames streaming far and wide, the groans of the falling victims were heard; such was the height of the hill and the magnitude of the blazing pile that the entire city seemed to be ablaze; and the noise - nothing more deafening and frightening could be imagined.

There were the war cries of the Roman legions as they swept onwards en masse, the yells of the rebels encircled by fire and sword, the panic of the people who, cut off above, fled into the arms of the enemy, and their shrieks as they met their fate. The cries on the hill blended with those of the multitudes in the city below; and now many people who were exhausted and tongue-tied as a result of hunger, when they beheld the Temple on fire, found strength once more to lament and wail. Peraea and the surrounding hills, added their echoes to the deafening din. But more horrifying than the din were the sufferings.

The Temple Mount, everywhere enveloped in flames, seemed to be boiling over from its base; yet the blood seemed more abundant than the flames and the numbers of the slain greater than those of the slayers. The soldiers climbed over heaps of bodies as they chased the fugitives."

References:
Josephus' account appears in: Cornfield, Gaalya ed., Josephus, The Jewish War (1982); Duruy, Victor, History of Rome vol. V (1883

The Romans Destroy the Temple at Jerusalem, 70 AD
www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/jewishtemple.htm

Don`t swallow all the stuff being sold by the end times prophecy industry now days.

3/24/2016 10:42:23 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
Revelation was written by a man in exile in an area filled with psychedelic psilocybin. Much even today still grows on Patmos.

John experienced 60000 Roman soldiers storming Jerusalem. Seems Armageddon already happened. Revelation is merely a result of that. Anyone coming from that and being stoned on hallucinogenics can only write about their own personal tragedy. Unbright Christians believe it's about the future. As a Jew who could write used Gematria, numerology to describe Nero. Nero was 666. All the letters in Hebrew are also numbers. Unbright Christians are making up their own fantasy.



Yes, Iyam, this was a vision that an individual experienced, a personal perspective of interacting with a perceived divinity as that individual understood, and perceived future possible happening, ( in that individual's mind, or from within).
I find your facts to be correct about this theory, the. Mushrooms still grow there!

3/24/2016 10:44:12 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

rufftreasure
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Isna, I am very leary of such things, relating to end time prophecies.

3/24/2016 6:36:47 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
We are not there yet.
But what is to be expected?


Nothing is to be expected. There is no such things as end times prophesy because there is no such thing as prophesy. Anything written thousands of years ago has no relevance today beyond a historical paranoia and if you think it does you are delusional.

3/25/2016 8:43:24 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

wayn49
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Quote from isna_la_wica:
Josephus described it. Here is an excerpt from his writings.

The Romans Destroy the Temple

at Jerusalem, 70 AD


Roman CenturianThe Roman legions surrounded the city and began to slowly squeeze the life out of the Jewish stronghold. By the year 70, the attackers had breached Jerusalem's outer walls and began a systematic ransacking of the city. The assault culminated in the burning and destruction of the Temple that served as the center of Judaism.

In victory, the Romans slaughtered thousands. Of those sparred from death: thousands more were enslaved and sent to toil in the mines of Egypt, others were dispersed to arenas throughout the Empire to be butchered for the amusement of the public. The Temple's sacred relics were taken to Rome where they were displayed in celebration of the victory.

The rebellion sputtered on for another three years and was finally extinguished in 73 AD with the fall of the various pockets of resistance including the stronghold at Masada.

"...the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy."

Our only first-hand account of the Roman assault on the Temple comes from the Jewish historian Josephus Flavius. Josephus was a former leader of the Jewish Revolt who had surrendered to the Romans and had won favor from Vespasian. In gratitude, Josephus took on Vespasian's family name - Flavius - as his own. We join his account as the Romans fight their way into the inner sanctum of the Temple:

"...the rebels shortly after attacked the Romans again, and a clash followed between the guards of the sanctuary and the troops who were putting out the fire inside the inner court; the latter routed the Jews and followed in hot pursuit right up to the Temple itself. Then one of the soldiers, without awaiting any orders and with no dread of so momentous a deed, but urged on by some supernatural force, snatched a blazing piece of wood and, climbing on another soldier's back, hurled the flaming brand through a low golden window that gave access, on the north side, to the rooms that surrounded the sanctuary. As the flames shot up, the Jews let out a shout of dismay that matched the tragedy; they flocked to the rescue, with no thought of sparing their lives or husbanding their strength; for the sacred structure that they had constantly guarded with such devotion was vanishing before their very eyes.

ADVERTISMENT

...No exhortation or threat could now restrain the impetuosity of the legions; for passion was in supreme command. Crowded together around the entrances, many were trampled down by their companions; others, stumbling on the smoldering and smoked-filled ruins of the porticoes, died as miserably as the defeated. As they drew closer to the Temple, they pretended not even to hear Caesar's orders, but urged the men in front to throw in more firebrands. The rebels were powerless to help; carnage and flight spread throughout.

Most of the slain were peaceful citizens, weak and unarmed, and they were butchered where they were caught. The heap of corpses mounted higher and higher about the altar; a stream of blood flowed down the Temple's steps, and the bodies of those slain at the top slipped to the bottom.

When Caesar failed to restrain the fury of his frenzied soldiers, and the fire could not be checked, he entered the building with his generals and looked at the holy place of the sanctuary and all its furnishings, which exceeded by far the accounts current in foreign lands and fully justified their splendid repute in our own.

As the flames had not yet penetrated to the inner sanctum, but were consuming the chambers that surrounded the sanctuary, Titus assumed correctly that there was still time to save the structure; he ran out and by personal appeals he endeavored to persuade his men to put out the fire, instructing Liberalius, a centurion of his bodyguard of lancers, to club any of the men who disobeyed his orders. But their respect for Caesar and their fear of the centurion's staff who was trying to check them were overpowered by their rage, their detestation of the Jews, and an utterly uncontrolled lust for battle.


TitusMost of them were spurred on, moreover, by the expectation of loot, convinced that the interior was full of money and dazzled by observing that everything around them was made of gold. But they were forestalled by one of those who had entered into the building, and who, when Caesar dashed out to restrain the troops, pushed a firebrand, in the darkness, into the hinges of the gate Then, when the flames suddenly shot up from the interior, Caesar and his generals withdrew, and no one was left to prevent those outside from kindling the blaze. Thus, in defiance of Caesar's wishes, the Temple was set on fire.

While the Temple was ablaze, the attackers plundered it, and countless people who were caught by them were slaughtered. There was no pity for age and no regard was accorded rank; children and old men, laymen and priests, alike were butchered; every class was pursued and crushed in the grip of war, whether they cried out for mercy or offered resistance.

Through the roar of the flames streaming far and wide, the groans of the falling victims were heard; such was the height of the hill and the magnitude of the blazing pile that the entire city seemed to be ablaze; and the noise - nothing more deafening and frightening could be imagined.

There were the war cries of the Roman legions as they swept onwards en masse, the yells of the rebels encircled by fire and sword, the panic of the people who, cut off above, fled into the arms of the enemy, and their shrieks as they met their fate. The cries on the hill blended with those of the multitudes in the city below; and now many people who were exhausted and tongue-tied as a result of hunger, when they beheld the Temple on fire, found strength once more to lament and wail. Peraea and the surrounding hills, added their echoes to the deafening din. But more horrifying than the din were the sufferings.

The Temple Mount, everywhere enveloped in flames, seemed to be boiling over from its base; yet the blood seemed more abundant than the flames and the numbers of the slain greater than those of the slayers. The soldiers climbed over heaps of bodies as they chased the fugitives."

References:
Josephus' account appears in: Cornfield, Gaalya ed., Josephus, The Jewish War (1982); Duruy, Victor, History of Rome vol. V (1883

The Romans Destroy the Temple at Jerusalem, 70 AD
www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/jewishtemple.htm

Don`t swallow all the stuff being sold by the end times prophecy industry now days.



i agree there is a lot of confusion on end day prophecy but one thing we can count on, and that is found in Daniel chapter 2 and Daniel chapters 7,8,9,11,12. and we have John who was given revelation of things to come

Jesus told us what was coming before his appearing and today we see the signs. when? no one knows but you can bet on one thing, when Jesus said he would return he will

what will it be like before his appearing? i do not know the exact details but one thing is certain, lawlessness, disasters, diseases, famines, wars, etc will increase and a time of trouble will come on this earth like never seen before

our only hope is in God and to be ready

3/25/2016 9:03:17 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

asanb
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It starts with A Trump elected to Power, and slides into ww3 shortly after.

3/25/2016 9:06:51 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

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Quote from asanb:
It starts with A Trump elected to Power, and slides into ww3 shortly after.


Much to the delight of the gloom & doom crowd!

3/25/2016 9:17:49 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

rufftreasure
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I see nothing good coming from a Trump victory, there's an article written about the Ten worst things that could happen in the world.

A trump presidency topped the list of disasters that could occur.

3/26/2016 3:04:34 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from wayn49:
i agree there is a lot of confusion on end day prophecy but one thing we can count on, and that is found in Daniel chapter 2 and Daniel chapters 7,8,9,11,12. and we have John who was given revelation of things to come

Which means you're delusional.

Jesus told us what was coming before his appearing and today we see the signs. when? no one knows but you can bet on one thing, when Jesus said he would return he will
Which means mental illness is your god.

what will it be like before his appearing? i do not know the exact details but one thing is certain, lawlessness, disasters, diseases, famines, wars, etc will increase and a time of trouble will come on this earth like never seen before

our only hope is in God and to be ready
Your only hope is to a good psychiatrist.

3/26/2016 3:36:46 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
Your only hope is to a good psychiatrist.

Your only hope it to SEE a good psychiatrist. You suffer religious delusions. Delusions are obsessive beliefs in things that are not real. Religious delusions make an individual more sick than any other kind of delusion. A psychiatrist trained in religious themed delusions would understand the deranged and distorted mind patterns of religiosity is your best bet.

3/26/2016 11:41:28 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

wayn49
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Quote from iyamwutiyam:
Your only hope is to a good psychiatrist.



no man my hope is in Jesus and prophecy is real

3/26/2016 8:56:05 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

iyamwutiyam
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Quote from wayn49:
no man my hope is in Jesus and prophecy is real
You're proven you're mentally disordered. A psychiatrist trained in religious themed delusions would understand your deranged and distorted mentality and offer treatment which may include medication for obsessive compulsive disorder.

3/28/2016 5:39:28 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

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Quote from wayn49:
no man my hope is in Jesus and prophecy is real





Peace

3/28/2016 5:57:09 AM What will the Apocalypse be like?  
Yasureoktoo
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It will make all money useless, so everyone should liquidate all assets and send them to my PO box.

I will personally see that it is disposed of properly.

3/28/2016 3:35:40 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

nonstandard
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Quote from rufftreasure:
I see nothing good coming from a Trump victory, there's an article written about the Ten worst things that could happen in the world.

A trump presidency topped the list of disasters that could occur.


He's a loose cannon . He knows nothing about diplomacy . He's spent his whole life , waging wars .

3/28/2016 3:43:32 PM What will the Apocalypse be like?  

nonstandard
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Quote from rufftreasure:
Yes, Iyam, this was a vision that an individual experienced, a personal perspective of interacting with a perceived divinity as that individual understood, and perceived future possible happening, ( in that individual's mind, or from within).
I find your facts to be correct about this theory, the. Mushrooms still grow there!


Mushrooms , or mycelium , eat all of life's wastes , and they shit out pure gold .