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12/9/2007 6:13:17 PM For all the free people that protest  
soldier4life2k
Oklahoma City, OK
43, joined Nov. 2007


then exspain to me the abortion rights, and gay rights and all of that do u agree or disagree with it, to my opion about it i think people can do what they want when it comes to abortion...




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12/9/2007 6:19:05 PM For all the free people that protest  
queenofhearts61
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,962)
Seymour, IN
70, joined Mar. 2007


Thats right they can take the life of the innocent when they were careless enough to get pregnant but want to tell others how they can have sex. Makes sense to me.NOT

12/9/2007 6:21:28 PM For all the free people that protest  
jays82
Over 1,000 Posts (1,102)
Delphos, OH
52, joined Sep. 2007


Actually the presidents had more power at one time. Because of the distance and time it took to travel the president made decisions with out there consent and approval. This also included cabinet appointments. The Congress only met for a few months and then adjourned until next time. This is how they tried to kick Andrew Johnson out of the white house, but did not work. The president did these things all of the time. When the congress would reconvene they would look at it then and would bring up if they thought necessary. This is were recess appointments come in to play and the person will hold that office for one year with out Congressional approval.

12/9/2007 6:26:10 PM For all the free people that protest  
jays82
Over 1,000 Posts (1,102)
Delphos, OH
52, joined Sep. 2007


Troy we live in a Republic not a Democracy. People get that wrong all of the time. With that the majority does not always get it's way. Plus if every time a decision had to be made we took a vote on it even less would be done, then there is now.

12/9/2007 6:27:34 PM For all the free people that protest  
queenofhearts61
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,962)
Seymour, IN
70, joined Mar. 2007


Something that changes the constitution should always be voted on by the people.

12/9/2007 6:29:54 PM For all the free people that protest  
jays82
Over 1,000 Posts (1,102)
Delphos, OH
52, joined Sep. 2007


what part of the constitution was changed?

12/9/2007 6:32:07 PM For all the free people that protest  
kinkycapitalist
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,897)
Atlanta, GA
61, joined Nov. 2007


Actually G. Morris, created Article 1 first and gave the most power to the Congress.

12/9/2007 6:38:45 PM For all the free people that protest  
castertroy
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,490)
Belmar, NJ
46, joined May. 2007


Oh i know this is a republic , i am well aware of it!
maybe i should declare my house a sovereign nation and say screw it all...Oh hang on , that sounds like Waco, Texas and i don't need the FBI shooting my driveway , never mind...Wonder why people create militias?
Liberty And Freedom for all....

12/9/2007 6:39:45 PM For all the free people that protest  
queenofhearts61
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,962)
Seymour, IN
70, joined Mar. 2007


The last 14 amendments were not ratified according to the constitution. They were just added by congress including the one that allows congress to vote themselves a raise whenever they want. Tell me anyone else in this country that can vote themselves a raise when they want.

To protect themselves from an out of control government Caster.



[Edited 12/9/2007 6:40:42 PM ]

12/9/2007 6:52:39 PM For all the free people that protest  
jays82
Over 1,000 Posts (1,102)
Delphos, OH
52, joined Sep. 2007


yes they were ratified by the constitution. The people never ever directly voted on any of them. 1 through all. We have a representative government. That is a republic. The amendment is is brought up in congress it must pass a 2/3rds vote in both houses. if and when it passes it goes to the states where 2/3rds of the states must past it also. The representative governments you have at the state level votes on them up or down. The people of the state voted these people in just like congress. The problem is that once again I will explain this which I have done in another thread. When ask a vast portion of the U.S. citizens about those who represent them say. My political representative is doing a good job it is the rest of the SOB's that have voted in idiots. Now we all can not vote in idiots and the problem no one wants to take responsibility of voting in lousy people so it is every one else. It is us as citizens in the current attitude in this country of I will not take responsibility it has to be some one else's fault.

12/9/2007 7:42:18 PM For all the free people that protest  
queenofhearts61
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,962)
Seymour, IN
70, joined Mar. 2007


You might want to check that constitution again because there was supposed to be a constitutional convention to change the constitution but of course that was changed as soon as it could be sneeked in when people were living and did not have time to watch the government all the time.

12/9/2007 11:04:16 PM For all the free people that protest  
leahmarie
Aston, PA
68, joined Oct. 2007


allyourfornow......

You are not digesting my post properly. Yes, God grants us liberty, but if a government wants to deprive us of that God-given right, it can. Once again, I will repeat my point about liberty. Thomas Jefferson wrote "God gave us certain inalienable rights, among those life, [LIBERTY]and the pursuit of happiness." However, there are many countries where citizens do not enjoy liberty. Once again, look at the Muslim countries. Do you really believe that the women have liberty? I am not on a soapbox; I am just stating the facts. If you do not believe what I am saying, then prove to me that women in Muslim countries have liberty.

To answer your other post, yes you are correct in that the surge is working. There is lesss killing going on and less people being slaughtered by suicide bombers. I am going to ignore your sarcasm since people usually resort to that when they have nothing substantial to say.



[Edited 12/10/2007 12:03:47 AM ]

12/9/2007 11:15:51 PM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


that makes no sense....

we are talking about america not the muslim countries....let's face it


it's a mess almost everywhere these days

why is there such a caustic polarity in here...could it be a microcosm of the macrocosm??? lol

12/9/2007 11:19:51 PM For all the free people that protest  
leahmarie
Aston, PA
68, joined Oct. 2007


biant...... Bringing Muslim countries into the mix does make sense since allyourfornow is under the allusion that because God gave us liberty, that all the peoples of the world enjoy that God-given right. I needed to bring in the Muslim countries to show he is wrong, that there are peoples in the Muslim countries who do not enjoy liberty.

12/10/2007 12:04:42 AM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


but that is because of religion ....oh hell

look i don't believe in god anyway...so for me both points of view are a little off the topic....


i grew up in one of these muslim countries...i don't think you want my point of view tho...it's not as bad in some of them as you would like to believe....

it's the dogmas and attachments to belief systems, that (in my opinion) strip a person of their freedoms and authenticity...but we are conditioned and born into these structures and systems with hardly any opportunity to get out unless we revolt.

i was scandalous for my family...lol

i revolted...rebelled

i always wondered why not too many others did...fear i suppose....

12/10/2007 12:19:24 AM For all the free people that protest  

deserted
Fort Worth, TX
50, joined Dec. 2007


Maybe a case of Cognitive dissonance.

12/10/2007 12:19:42 AM For all the free people that protest  

jewelz5
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,124)
Monteagle, TN
61, joined Feb. 2007


The authority of man’s intrinsic Selfhood has been molested by the connoisseurs of deception, by those with a great deal to lose should the subjects under their hypnotic power awaken and become ignited by the Spirit of Rebellion that lies dormant within them.

It is this spirit, after all, that is exemplified by the great saviors of the world. All of them, from Tonatiuh, to Odin, to Christ, to Socrates, were rebels, iconoclasts and outcasts. And yet, each was sent to the world by the higher power to execute the will of the so-called “Holy Spirit.”

Rebellion, the hallmark of all light-bringers, Servant of Truths and Saviors is, therefore, a true service to the Holy Spirit. Rebellion against those authorities, systems, or ideas that attempt to molest, impede or confound our sacred individuality, sovereignty and true voice, constitutes service to the Holy Spirit. Rebelliousness is the hallmark of the Holy Spirit.

Little wonder then that the Christians personified this Spirit of Rebellion as Lucifer the fallen angel. Little wonder that they obscured the actual significance of the Holy “Ghost.” Little wonder that they frown on the modern outcasts who will not conform to their mental whips, or ingest their diet of intoxicating fictions.#

Human sickness is so severe that few can bear to look at it...but those who do will become well - Vernon Howard


12/10/2007 12:31:03 AM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


i beg your pardon...i don't get what you mean actually


i said nothing to imply that..

12/10/2007 12:34:24 AM For all the free people that protest  

jewelz5
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,124)
Monteagle, TN
61, joined Feb. 2007


Religion, government, and corporations exist, to rape men of their inherent sovereignty and to crush the Spirit of Rebellion. These forces are obscene contradictions to the true Holy Spirit.

The Church, in particular, is not the agent of the Holy Spirit but its greatest enemy. A careful reading of the bible reveals how many passages are given over to the question of slavery and how endorsed it is by god and his terrestrial agents.

Nothing is more poisonous, harmful or devilish than a man in rebellion - Martin Luther (founder of Protestantism)


Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those whose are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. For it is commendable if a man bears up under pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God…But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God - (Peter 2:18-21)


12/10/2007 12:34:57 AM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


erny...... i have just looked at some of your posts.....

would you like a little professional advice???

no?? hmmm well it's free!!!


you seriously need to get laid...or some excruciatingly slow head might mellow you out a bit


lmao.....


good luck with that attitude you got there boy!!!

12/10/2007 12:40:21 AM For all the free people that protest  

jewelz5
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,124)
Monteagle, TN
61, joined Feb. 2007


something like that...though it sounds like too much pleasure...I don't know if he could stand it.

12/10/2007 12:42:15 AM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


i wasn't joking erny


but you twist EVERYTHING to suit your negative and argumentative nature

12/10/2007 1:07:25 AM For all the free people that protest  
allyours4now
Over 1,000 Posts (1,047)
Glendale, AZ
44, joined Sep. 2007


c*nty comments. thats very mature and enlightened of you photo. but you do prove a point. the point that she is right in saying you need to get laid, but with your charm and demeanor, i would guess thats kinda difficult.

12/10/2007 1:25:27 AM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


ok ok ok !!!! no slow head for you then....sheesh

i lowered myself to the level i thought you understood best...won't be bendin over for you again!!!

no humour and no class..


you watch your back now ya hear!

12/10/2007 1:30:30 AM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


i'm a quick study


guess where i picked it up from???

12/10/2007 1:32:33 AM For all the free people that protest  

jewelz5
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,124)
Monteagle, TN
61, joined Feb. 2007


3 guesses and the first 2 don't count?

12/10/2007 1:35:38 AM For all the free people that protest  

deserted
Fort Worth, TX
50, joined Dec. 2007


Can't believe someone missed out on "slow head"

12/10/2007 1:36:33 AM For all the free people that protest  
allyours4now
Over 1,000 Posts (1,047)
Glendale, AZ
44, joined Sep. 2007


hey no photo in the dictionary it has my pic by the definition of maturity. in your speak i just said duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh !!

12/10/2007 1:36:47 AM For all the free people that protest  

soulcitywalker
Over 2,000 Posts (3,869)
Lexington, KY
57, joined Mar. 2007


heh heh heh heh heh heh!!!

Looks like foto's batteries are running down: all flash and no show.

12/10/2007 1:39:00 AM For all the free people that protest  
allyours4now
Over 1,000 Posts (1,047)
Glendale, AZ
44, joined Sep. 2007


and for the record 'i'd jump at the chance at slow head from bl8tant. love those puckered lips baby!

12/10/2007 1:48:57 AM For all the free people that protest  
allyours4now
Over 1,000 Posts (1,047)
Glendale, AZ
44, joined Sep. 2007


i dont have to beg and i do have choices. another weak attempt by photo to what?...embarrass me, or more likely yourself.

soulcity is right photo, get some rest and come back tomorrow. your crew aint here to back you up with their blather now.



[Edited 12/10/2007 1:50:38 AM ]

12/10/2007 1:55:19 AM For all the free people that protest  
allyours4now
Over 1,000 Posts (1,047)
Glendale, AZ
44, joined Sep. 2007


funny dude! what happened to staying on topic that you insisted on a few moments ago?

12/10/2007 2:22:30 AM For all the free people that protest  

soulcitywalker
Over 2,000 Posts (3,869)
Lexington, KY
57, joined Mar. 2007


foto: oh! i forgot you guys all coordinate your online times. btw guys way to stick on topic.


SCW: I knew that was what you, jcsx, QoH, and wildgypsy were doing...klanning.

With all the new blood coming on, it looks like the days of the klan are numbered!!!!



[Edited 12/10/2007 2:24:11 AM ]

12/10/2007 2:26:16 AM For all the free people that protest  

soulcitywalker
Over 2,000 Posts (3,869)
Lexington, KY
57, joined Mar. 2007


Looks like ol' foto has been run down into the ground...head first.
He's out of here.

12/10/2007 2:29:37 AM For all the free people that protest  

lostinwyoming
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (15,462)
Evanston, WY
58, joined Apr. 2007


throw away yer crack pipe. conspirecy theory.lol. need some tin foil?

12/10/2007 2:30:16 AM For all the free people that protest  

lostinwyoming
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (15,462)
Evanston, WY
58, joined Apr. 2007


look out! there under your bed.lol.

12/10/2007 5:46:45 AM For all the free people that protest  
leahmarie
Aston, PA
68, joined Oct. 2007


jewelz5...... I cut/pasted part of your post.

"It is this spirit, after all, that is exemplified by the great saviors of the world. All of them, from Tonatiuh, to Odin, to Christ, to Socrates, were rebels, iconoclasts and outcasts. And yet, each was sent to the world by the higher power to execute the will of the so-called “Holy Spirit."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As usual, your post is a muddled mass of confused clutter. An example is your lumping Tonatiuh, Odin, Christ, and Socrates together, stating that they were sent to execute the will of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit, in most instances, applies to the Catholic/Christian religion. Tonatiuh is the Aztec Sun God. Odin is Chief God in Norse mythology. Christ is the Christian Saviour. Socrates is the Greek philosopher credited for laying the foundation for Western philosophy.

Additionally, I am well read and I know of no instance where Socrates has ever been called a great savior. Also, there are no cited references to Christ being an iconoclast. Actually, it is the opposite. When an attempt was made to draw Christ into being an iconoclast so he could be arrested, Christ said "Render to God the things that are God's and to Caesar the things that are Caesar's." You also claim that all of the above were outcasts. Are you really that stupid to believe that Odin, the Chief of the Gods in Norse Mythology was an outcast, and that Tonatiuh, the Aztec Sun God was the same?

Never mind. do not even answer my questions. I cannot deal with you and the rest of your crazy post, which is nothing but a maze of cloggish chaos.

After dealing with you I feel

give some thought to your posts and quit all this crazy talk.



[Edited 12/10/2007 6:04:17 AM ]

12/10/2007 10:32:29 AM For all the free people that protest  
wildgypsy
Over 2,000 Posts (2,569)
Bellevue, WA
96, joined Aug. 2007


All yours “go to Baghdad with leah and while she is polling people”
And whom should they poll? The ones who asked us to come, and begged us to stay, or the ones that have never wanted us there in the first place? There are two sides to it even over there, and if these people had been so ready to agree with each other over the past decades, there wouldn’t be all the hostilities between the sunnis and shiites in the first place.

Oleta “As far as politicians go, I don't trust any of them.”
From any country no less, as far as I am concerned. Hard to believe, but a lot are even worse than Bush.

Cabby “So be it lets have a free society no money that way no one can say anything about the rich”
Many times I have wished that this country worked on the barter system. Seems to me, that way those who actually did work would prosper, and the deadwoods would get what they deserve.

Jay “Not only can you pray because of "separation of church and state" but you can't even do it as freedom of speech! Read the constitution no where does it say the separation of church and state.”
I have only seen Christians denied their freedoms. The rest are catered to. When any mention of Christmas was banned in the schools, they were still teaching the kids jewish holiday songs. The muslims are even allowed to contradict dress codes.

Queen “Thats right they can take the life of the innocent when they were careless enough to get pregnant but want to tell others how they can have sex. Makes sense to me.NOT”
And your narrow mindedness on this makes no sense to me either. Had a lot of issues with other things you posted, but this was just the limit. Guess it would be fine to have that same innocent child abused or put into foster care because the mother couldn’t stand to see the face of her rapist every day, or died trying to have this kid. More than just tramps getting knocked up by illegals involved in this issue. You sound like you prefer to further victimize mothers.
I also don’t think that anyone not able to bear children should be allowed to vote. Too much like outsiders telling one group what they can and can’t do with their own bodies, and that isn’t right. As bad as telling another govt how to run their country. And, along those lines, at your age, I would bet that leaves you out of the whole thing LOL What real stake do you have in this issue? Sure, when it comes to protesting this sexual slavery, I will be on the front lines defending these women, but since I am not able to have kids any more, wouldn’t expect the right to vote and tell them what to do.

Jay “Now we all can not vote in idiots”
I wasn’t even in the country when the idiots voted Bush in, but felt the shame of the whole country when I heard the results.

Blatant “but that is because of religion ....oh hell”
Which just goes to show that not all “gods” have an interest in the same rights as the one referred to the most in this country I suppose.

”i grew up in one of these muslim countries...i don't think you want my point of view tho...it's not as bad in some of them as you would like to believe...”
And your experience is just a contrast to so many others who complain about how horrid it was there, and how they would be killed if they even dared to return.

”it's the dogmas and attachments to belief systems, that (in my opinion) strip a person of their freedoms and authenticity...but we are conditioned and born into these structures and systems with hardly any opportunity to get out unless we revolt.”
LOL I don’t think it is even rare for kids to revolt against what their parents teach them, so I would hardly think anyone is really stripped of anything LOL Well, yeah, except coward too afraid of speaking their mind, and what can anyone really say about them?

”i was scandalous for my family...lol “
LOL Try seeing the look on the face of a nun when you are asking her just how anyone KNOWS if the bible was accurately translated, or the look on your brother’s face when you teach this same nun how to say “Bite Me” with the proper emphasis LOL

”i revolted...rebelled “
In my family, just asking questions was enough to be a rebel so I was unquestionably the biggest rebel in generations.

“you seriously need to get laid...or some excruciatingly slow head might mellow you out a bit”
LOL Didn’t have to jump in and prove you were a fake so fast did ya?! As if any real dr of any kind would come off with that. I think maybe you just see a shrink so often you have picked up a lot of the jargon. And no, have never believe all your self serving posts about supposedly doing all that charity work. Your posts would have more realism to them if you had.

Deserted “Can't believe someone missed out on "slow head"
Consider the source, maybe didn’t want one of those STDs. If you had read her stuff for a while you would know that this wasn’t exactly a “rare offer”. Wonder why she doesn’t use all these “talents” she claims to have to protest the lack of safe sex in the country she resides in. It is a major health issue, and one that would HELP people.

12/10/2007 10:44:49 AM For all the free people that protest  

soulcitywalker
Over 2,000 Posts (3,869)
Lexington, KY
57, joined Mar. 2007


LostAsUsual: throw away yer crack pipe. conspirecy theory.lol. need some tin foil?

SCW: Guess you should know...especially in regards to the high rate of illegal drug use in your city of Evanston and the entire state: meth, crack cocaine, etc.

Did a little research last night after one of your idiotic comments.

12/10/2007 10:50:39 AM For all the free people that protest  

soulcitywalker
Over 2,000 Posts (3,869)
Lexington, KY
57, joined Mar. 2007


wildgip: I wasn’t even in the country when the idiots voted Bush in, but felt the shame of the whole country when I heard the results.

SCW: Did you drive across the border from your state of Washington to Canada to refill your manic-depressive and severe delusions prescriptions?!

12/10/2007 11:35:05 AM For all the free people that protest  
leahmarie
Aston, PA
68, joined Oct. 2007


gypsy...... I cut/pasted part of your post.

"I have only seen Christians denied their freedoms. The rest are catered to. When any mention of Christmas was banned in the schools, they were still teaching the kids jewish holiday songs. The muslims are even allowed to contradict dress codes."

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

You are so right!

Gypsy. I want to add that in certain areas of America, foot baths are being installed for Muslims as part of their religious ritual. Oh, and of course in those same areas, mentioning Christmas is banned, as you noted.





[Edited 12/10/2007 12:02:50 PM ]

12/10/2007 12:29:12 PM For all the free people that protest  
bl8ant
Amsterdam
Netherlands
62, joined Dec. 2007


WildGypsy...

we share some 'attitude' lol...it is clear, and i enjoyed your response to my post, heh heh , even questioning my authenticity... it's ok, i can laugh....

see, as i am pretty sure you can relate to, we all have our level, it's an internal process of growth and we carve into the depths of ourselves....

i have a dark side just as you do :o)

i appreciate her shocking irreverence and unconventional attitude...i'm sorry you didn't appreciate that humour,

i thought it was banal enough to fit right in, oh well , can't blame me for tryin ahaahahahahhahahaaaa*( do i need to say i am being sarcastic?)..heh heh


as for where i grew up, well even that is kinda relative i guess
every country has it's dark side as well....i am not going to sing praises for what is happening in my country,
any more than you want to about yours,
so we do have a lot in common eh?
but like you i can also boast that my country was extraordinary....by general consensus.
it's extremely personal as well , and i am sure you can appreciate the personal prices we pay for what we lose
and if someone is interested enough , as you apparently were, they will read between the lines...some things are better left unsaid.


at the end of the day..i come here to get some comic relief and banter, i come here to be someplace
so radically different from what i am immersed in... i know i don't fill in the details that's why i called myself bl8ant

consider that it's a compliment to your intelligence, that i don't have to go into all the drama
because i am not invested in proving something and if you are curious i have given links and am free to email.

who can prove anything about anyone? a few people here i have known some years now...we've no reason to imagine we are anyone other than who we say we are.

so all in fun....


stay scandalous!

asalaam aleikum