| 12/9/2007 1:47:28 PM |
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jays82
Delphos, OH
age: 43
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you tell her professor.
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| 12/9/2007 2:04:11 PM |
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leahmarie
Aston, PA
age: 59
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allyours4now..... I have cut/pasted your post below
"Get off your soap box soldier you chose your path. no one here hates you or the other military personal, its the people who give you your orders that we have a problem with. the fact you try and cloud the issue with your sentimentality is so typical of the war mongering crowd. you should be grateful that there are those of us that are fighting to bring our people home from this impasse. and how dare you claim you bring liberty! only God can grant liberty, with which we are Born with. man can only grant license."
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allyours4now.....
Soldier is not on a soap box. He is telling it as it is.
Some people do hate the military. Don't you remember how the Vietnam Vets were treated when they came home? There are people in our country who hate the military. I could name several on this dating site, but I do not want to start a free-for-all.
Soldier is not clouding issues with sentimentality. Once again, he is telling it as it is. Additionally, he is not a member of the war mongering crowd; he belongs to the armed forces, which defend America.
Why should he be grateful that there are those of you who are fighting to bring our military personnel home from this "impasse." What "impasse" are you talking about? Haven't you heard of the surge? It is working! That's why the Democratics have gotten off the war issue, because there is no longer an "Impasse." THE SURGE IS WORKING!!!! 
What do you mean only God can grant liberty with which we are born? Not so! It is true that the Jeffersonian words in the Declaration of Independence declare that "God gave us certain inalienable rights, among those life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." However, if one is born into the wrong country, he/she does not have those rights. Again, even though God gave us those rights, it is GOVERNMENT THAT GRANTS THOSE RIGHTS TO US. iF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, TRY LIVING SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN AMERICA. I thank God on a regular basis whenever I see how women in third word/Muslim countries are treated, because I realize that if I had been born there, I would not have liberty.
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| 12/9/2007 2:47:39 PM |
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allyours4now
Glendale, AZ
age: 36
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get off your soapbox leah.you see, i dont have to go somewhere else. and you are completely wrong about where liberty comes from. it is granted by God, and it cannot be taken away once people realize they have it. but it does take that realization. our forefathers did realize this, which is why it is in our constitution. when a people do not understand the concept of liberty or do not know it is within their grasp, they are much less free for they have been mentally defeated. someone mentioned hypocrites earlier, i think you fit this description perfectly. the title of this thread is "for all the free people that protest", yet when someone argues against the point its "love it or leave it!". what a childish thing to do.
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| 12/9/2007 2:49:09 PM |
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jays82
Delphos, OH
age: 43
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Freedom and liberty come from God; however, if you are not willing to fight for it man can take away until some one rises up again to win it back!
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| 12/9/2007 2:50:31 PM |
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kinkycapitalist
Atlanta, GA
age: 52
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FREEDOM AND lIBERTY ARE SECULAR CONCEPTS AND CERTAINLY DO NOT COME FROM ANY ORGANIZED RELIGION.
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| 12/9/2007 2:53:12 PM |
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cabby37
Elkhart, IN
age: 48 online now!
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Liberty = # freedom of choice; "liberty of opinion"; "liberty of worship"; "liberty--perfect liberty--to think or feel or do just as one pleases"; "at liberty to choose whatever occupation one wishes"
# personal freedom from servitude or confinement or oppression
Russia Did not have much liberty or did china or Cuba
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| 12/9/2007 2:54:52 PM |
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allyours4now
Glendale, AZ
age: 36
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and i would like to know, how is it the surge is working? is it because there is slightly less killing going on? are you saying, that because there are a few less people being slaughtered, that it is somehow a success? i doubt you would walk down any street in Baghdad leah. maybe you should yourself see how successful the surge is. and while you are at it, why dont you tell that to the families of the men and women who have been killed in the last few weeks, that their death was a success. or tell it too the families of the innocent women and children who have been blown up or shot to ribbons, that its just one big success. you wouldnt have the guts to do that would you?
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| 12/9/2007 2:55:01 PM |
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kinkycapitalist
Atlanta, GA
age: 52
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Or did Salem, MA, Spanish Inquizition, tHE cRUSADES, ETC
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| 12/9/2007 2:55:58 PM |
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castertroy
Howell, NJ
age: 38 online now!
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Holy shit i second that statement!!!
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| 12/9/2007 2:57:06 PM |
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professer2
Saint Petersburg, FL
age: 52 online now!
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Thats
Holy Mackeral
dont get religious on me Troy
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| 12/9/2007 2:57:41 PM |
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allyours4now
Glendale, AZ
age: 36
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and leah my dear, government grants license.
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| 12/9/2007 3:05:56 PM |
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queenofhearts61
Seymour, IN
age: 62 online now!
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If this country were run by the christians, who claim to be the religion of America, we would not have the freedoms we have.
Maybe the patriot act is not effecting us right now but we should have learned from the past that when we give up a right it will be misused sometime in the future. Try the illigal income tax as one example. To this day it has not been ratified by the 2/3 of the states as required by the constitution.
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| 12/9/2007 3:09:55 PM |
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jays82
Delphos, OH
age: 43
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This is directly from the Declaration of Independence.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
So the founding Fathers were stupid when they wrote this is suppose?
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| 12/9/2007 3:11:33 PM |
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allyours4now
Glendale, AZ
age: 36
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gee photo why dont you go to Baghdad with leah and while she is polling people on the successful surge, you can question them on how they are enjoying their new found liberty. ask them if they believe if they will Ever have it as long as we are interfearing with the affairs of their country.
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| 12/9/2007 3:11:36 PM |
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cabby37
Elkhart, IN
age: 48 online now!
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And they are talking about GOD
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