| 11/7/2009 11:11:50 PM |
Round One; Health Care Wins |
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zorro932
Middle River, MD
57, joined Jun. 2009
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About one hour ago, Nancy Pelosi announced that the Health Care Bill had passed, and thus History has been made. The Senate will be a harder road to hoe, but I think a bill will get through both houses; watered down no doubt, but it will be a lifeline to a lot of people who don't have any hope now.
As I work in COBRA administration and listen to people every day who cannot afford the premiums, I am very happy to have seen this happen. I also think that maybe just this once, the right wing nuts have pushed things a bit to far and for all of their screaming they may just have blown it; let's hope so.
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| 11/8/2009 6:10:27 AM |
Round One; Health Care Wins |
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danguitarman
Redding, CA
64, joined Aug. 2007
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The vote was 220 to 215. 39 so-called "Democrats" voted with the republicans against it. I'm really surprised that so many Democratic members of the House would go against Obama and Pelosi and the vast majority of Democrats and a big majority of the American people. Even after the endorsements came from the AMA, ANA, AARP and even the Catholic Bishops group. It must be the power of the insurance companies and the corruption of individual members.
I'm glad, like you Zorro, that it passed. But I thought that the House would pass it with a much bigger margin. I didn't expect 39 Democrats to vote against it. I think it will pass in the Senate as well. The real fight is getting it to a vote.
[Edited 11/8/2009 6:11:36 AM ]
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| 11/8/2009 12:48:35 PM |
Round One; Health Care Wins |
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idlehour
Montgomery, AL
61, joined May. 2009
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I pray I'm wrong, but I just don't see 60 votes in the Senate unless its such a watered down health care bill that its essentially meaningless. I really think the only way to pass a bill with any sort of a viable public option is through Reconciliation - 50 + 1 instead of 60 votes. But I think that would require the President getting involved and endorsing and supporting the Reconciliation process, but I just don't see this president doing that sadly.
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| 11/9/2009 7:07:24 PM |
Round One; Health Care Wins |
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coolchick
Woodway, TX
64, joined Nov. 2006
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Dan, the reason so many Democratic House members voted against the Health Care bill is because they represent gerrymandered districts. When the Republicans ran the country, they worked hard to restructure Congressional districts so that the majority in the district would be of the conservative persuasion. They were very successful doing that in the South and West. Most of the districts of those wayward Dem House members went for McCain in the Presidential election. Take my district, for example. Thanks to Republican gerrymandering, it went from being majority Democrats to majority Republicans. My Democratic Congressman, Chet Edwards, refused to give a clue as to how he was going to vote, then he voted against the bill. Edwards seems now to be a Demapublican. I'm not saying it's right, cause it aint, but these certain Democratic House members must please their conservative constituents on a number of issues, in order to get re-elected.
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| 11/9/2009 8:47:24 PM |
Round One; Health Care Wins |
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zorro932
Middle River, MD
57, joined Jun. 2009
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We have the same situation with a new member from Maryland, Frank Krativille. He won an upset victory last year in a heavily Republican district on the Eastern Shore. Because of that, he ended up voting against the bill. While I certainly wish he had, in this case I can understand as it would have killed his chances to get re-elected in 2010. I'm much less sympathetic to most of the other Democrats who voted against, though I'm sure some of them were in the same boat.
[Edited 11/9/2009 8:47:47 PM ]
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| 11/10/2009 6:13:21 AM |
Round One; Health Care Wins |
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danguitarman
Redding, CA
64, joined Aug. 2007
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You guys are going soft on me. I don't have any sympathy for any so-called "Democrat" who votes against Obama, Pelosi, The Party, The People, Human Rights for Americans. Any politician who votes against this bill doesn't deserve to get reelcted no matter what his party is. If the Democratic party is going to support politicians who would oppose this bill, then it is a mistake for any liberal to donate time or energy or money to the Democratic party. This is the litmis test. This is the one that counts.
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| 11/10/2009 10:07:34 PM |
Round One; Health Care Wins |
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zenlite
San Leandro, CA
33, joined Aug. 2009
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A representative has a responsibility is to stand in for the people of their district. Party lines should be a mere guideline compared to that.
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