| 9/19/2006 2:12:56 AM |
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mysti
Perry, IA
age: 42
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absolutely Lynn, but are most relationships really like that? Maybe I've just gotten jaded over the years.
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| 9/19/2006 10:09:45 AM |
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lynn53
Hemet, CA
age: 57
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LOL... mysti I was jaded to for years..but, I did find that one guy that gave a 100% and I gave him mine! Life doesn't seem fair after searching so long for my jewel he passed away...but, I know their out there, so don't give up
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| 9/19/2006 11:46:14 AM |
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unslightlynorml
Seaside, OR
age: 42
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Sadly Lynn baby,
I have yet to locate that 100% fella....do you think it is because I do not give anyone a real chance? LOL Seriously though, I have had a couple of decent relationships where we both tried always to respect one another and take care of eachother, but they are fleeting..in my existence anyway. I believe it's in part due to the fact that I absolutely do not think most men who pursue me are good enough to be around my son for extended periods of time....not even his own father - to whom I was married. I am also certain that many other factors come into play in this. Perhaps someday I will investigate. For now, I will enjoy being single and hanging out with my darling child.
P.S. The only submission that should actually take place is that guy submitting to a
psych eval ASAP. LOL
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| 9/19/2006 11:17:15 PM |
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lynn53
Hemet, CA
age: 57
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Kat Darlin'...
Some men are temporary, kids are forever and if it's any comfort I think your doing the right thing! Did the same and have the T-shirt it can be a long, lonely trail...but at the end of the day, your son will never let you down..forever!
There are thousands of good guys out there..stop being so hard on yourself, all you need to find is just one and you got the rest of your life to do it
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| 9/19/2006 11:23:11 PM |
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hard_to_handle
Antioch, CA
age: 44
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You all act as if its men that are insisting that women be submissive. I am here to tell you that I have met and dated a few women that insisted upon it because that made them feel safer and there is the trust that is involved in that.
Sorry but women want to be men and they have lost allot of themselves. no one should be made submissive but if that is how they feel most comfortable then why not.
To many think submissive means beating abuse etc thats not it at all. its trust completely some people feel a need to have boundries set for them and someone that will enforce those boundries not through beating but psychologically as well by their disapointment etc it gives that person a sense of security that the other really cares about them and protects them.
Just like kids they want boundries they want parents that will say no and mean it not friends.
anyway thats what I have to say enjoy
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| 9/19/2006 11:29:56 PM |
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lynn53
Hemet, CA
age: 57
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Hard to Handle....most women at some point in their life has been in a submissive relationship...and I think you have to be a woman to know how that "feels"!
[Edited 9/19/2006 11:30:30 PM]
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| 9/20/2006 12:50:10 AM |
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hard_to_handle
Antioch, CA
age: 44
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LYNN You did not listen, I am telling you that on two occassions I have been in a relationship were the women insisted things be that way or they would find another. Do not assume that your experiences are indicative of everyone in the world. It is excessively arrogant to think you knkow everything please reread what I wrote and try to understand. I was raised completely by women and taught to respect them and that they were fragile creatures that were to be cared for etc... I have lost a few women I loved because of that behavior and not asserting myself when it was correct to do so I was deemed to soft and women had no respect for me I was " a nice guy" You appeara to have a chip because of an asshole that was abusive "which has nothing to do with being submissive" Submissive is not trying to be a man and competing with your mate instead of supporting and filling those areas in life that he could not fill. women have turned their backs on their children and their men for their own selfish reason and most found that what they thought they wanted wasnt all that great.
Some however want to tell every bbody else how to live their loves because they have no life or happiness of their own and dont want others to have any either.
A submissive personality enjoys caring for and doing for another person and knowing that person is there to care for and do for them. leaving some decisions to the one person shouldering most of the burdens odf the family because running anything by committee often prevents a family from succeeding. talking endlessly rather than making the hard decisions that are right is dumb. Some people it is the woman that is more dominant more aggressive and the one that naturally gets things done so its not subjecting women get ovcr it.
you clearly will never trust anyone enough to truly love them and show that by caring about what they need above yourself.
I know I have self sacraficed to make sure the kids have food if there isnt enough for all, my wife etc A dominant person is usually sacraficing and doing more for the family than the submissive and as a whole they tend to succeed better. fughting and competing with your partner prevent growth and each is better off on their own
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| 9/20/2006 12:55:06 AM |
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hard_to_handle
Antioch, CA
age: 44
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By the way the "you have to be a woman line is a cop out" men get abused beat taken advantage of just like women so paleeeeese. I wonder why you have not sought the company of other women if you infact hate men so very much.
The concept of being nurturing is alien to you it seems I am amazed.
I am done here this site has lost all interest I cant educate yall and I dont care to. assume what you will. But I have been witness to all sides and subjected to an extremely abusive bi-polar x that I accepted the abuse and tried because thats what you do. so dont tell me about your version of submissive why not research a subject before speaking upon it.
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| 9/20/2006 2:29:39 AM |
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mysti
Perry, IA
age: 42
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I don't think there is anyone disagreeing that there are men and women who are submissive. I don't have a problem with that. Hell, BDSM is thriving. That lifestyle is NOT what we are referring to at all. Nor do I have a problem with women/men that choose to be submissive. My issue is with the religions that teach this gobbeldygook. That it is expected of women to sit down and shut their pretty little mouths and the husbands word is law. I have a problem with people that use the word submissive in place of abuse. Too many people hear that word and think (in part because of misunderstanding a bdsm lifestyle)it means abuse. And more often than not in churches submissive means total control. submissive doesn't mean either of those things. That's why I'm whole heartedly in favor of changing it too respect. Leave the submissive word out of vanilla relationships completely because too many people have no idea what it means.
AND I do know one man in particular that was abused, he lived upstairs from a relative of mine. I think it's terrible when ANYONE is abused. He wasn't submissive, he was scared to tell anyone because "how would it look to everyone" that his wife was beating him up. It's unfortunate that he didn't realize that women feel the same way in that situation
I hope you don't give up on this site Handle, people learn from each other because of an exchange of ideas. Don't always have to agree, do we? Can't we respect each others opinions?
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| 9/20/2006 4:47:35 AM |
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emtnancy50
New London, WI
age: 53
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The preachers view of submissive and hard to handles view are two completely different views. I think hard to handles is a kind and protecting type of submissive. I for one want a man to be a man. One that will be there to help if needed and protect, not controlling. On the other hand the preacher seems to want total submission..that is not right! But there are some women out there that enjoy that, I call those women mice, can be seen but not heard. To each his own..
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| 9/20/2006 10:23:06 AM |
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unslightlynorml
Seaside, OR
age: 42
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My, how quickly things go sideways at times in here. Hard.......be a tough guy and stick around - we all disagree at times and bark at eachother, but we then generally move on to the next thread and have a laugh together. I have been rude and obnoxious in here many times, but I have also been supportive. Hopefully that does not count as bi-polar. I will endeavor to be more sensitive....which is not exactly my first choice nor is it a huge part of my nature. My initial reaction is to say callous/funny things in times of high emotion, like: "Just because I'm aware doesn't mean I care." or "Your life is not my fault." but this time I think I will throw down with a "C'mon, most of us in here are decent people with a fair amount of intelligence - let's share our thoughts in a productive manner, shall we?" If you think that is easy for me, you do not know me well. Can't we all just get a thong? LOL
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| 9/20/2006 3:16:13 PM |
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lynn53
Hemet, CA
age: 57
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Hard...I think your taking this a little to personal! I'm not here for you to educate me nor do I desire it! But, we all like to hear about other people's viewpoints even if we don't always agree!
Submissive doesn't always mean abusing..sometimes, it just as simple as trying to please! Get's old either way and I am not retracting a word I said.
You do a load of "assuming" and "accusing" just to justify your rights, I think that's unfair on your part.
If your going to drop out of the forum because you disagree with a thread...then it's a shame..but, Bye!
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| 9/20/2006 5:39:44 PM |
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krazz
Whittier, CA
age: 54
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Wow! Intensity.... which breeds some excellent conversation and shows how we can take "positions."
The fun must remain.... serious is good, but this is all about communicating what we mean, and understanding what one says.
Nuff said...
Where is Chuckie, Hillbilly & the damn Piece Pipe!
Krazz
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| 9/20/2006 6:41:16 PM |
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unslightlynorml
Seaside, OR
age: 42
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Krazz,
Just search Nancy's teepee.....those guys are likely hiding out there again. heheheheh
I think it is all silly.....let's get back to zinging the forums, eh? LOL
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| 9/20/2006 7:18:49 PM |
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krazz
Whittier, CA
age: 54
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I'm with you, girl!
This serious shit, takes it's toll....
(Do I hear Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" in the background?
Krazz - Purveyor of Piece, Luv, & Harems
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