Do you Hate God? 31

8/6/2008 3:01:15 PM	Do you Hate God?
classicsfan Charlottetown, PE age: 51	Quote from someaverageguy: It's strange and even amazing to me how much vitriol comes from disagreements in personal philosophy. There can be no decision more personal in someone's life that that of his or her view of fundamental reality. I am an atheist. I want to very carefully define that. It means that I do not believe in any form of god or deity or higher power, with or without consciousness or the ability to punish, reward, or affect the lives of human beings. It is important to add that stating that I do not believe that god exists is not the same as saying that I believe god does not exist. Given that there is not, and in my opinion, cannot be, any proof, be it empirical or logical, of the existence or non-existence of god, I must be true to the basic tenet of rationalism and state that I do not believe the hypothesis when it lacks evidence instead of taking the extremist view of believing its antithesis. All of that being said, the one thing that I would really like to know is what in that suggests in any way that I would hate god, religion, religious people, or anything else? There is an enormous difference between being non-religious and being anti-religious. Choosing not to include a specific philosophy or dogma in my life doesn't necessitate my taking a stance against it. I am certainly against the atrocities committed in the name of religion, but I am just as dead-set against atrocities committed for purely secular or psychological reasons. It is the deed that I despise, not the organization to which the doer of the deed might belong. Nor, interestingly, do most atheists tend to speak of "all" people of any given type as being involved in any specific behavior. I think it's time to stop the haranguing and realize that hate is a personal emotion, not a philosophical one, to be applied with the broad brush that comes of ignorance of the motivations, thoughts and deeds of others. Very well said. I'd like to add that while I really don't care what other people believe, there is a real danger in 'magical thinking'. The more people believe in the infallibility of their religion, it seems that they are less inclined to use critical thought in other areas as well. Children who die because the religious beliefs of their parents prevent proper treatment, people who die from exorcisms, people who are emotionally or physically tortured because of their sexual orientation. The fear of cell phones, power lines, vaccines that drive people, people who then get in their cars and drive -the most dangerous activity you can do. It's not religion per se that i see as the problem, it's the lack of critical thought that often accompanies it.
8/8/2008 10:13:45 AM	Do you Hate God?
hemingstieniv Sacramento, CA age: 58	ive wanted to say this for sometime. i think ol' karl wanted to say xtianity is the opiate of the masses. but for obvious reasons he didnt use the word. not really sure if im an atheist but damn sure i dont believe in the xtian god. have studied many religions and see a common thread with them(except with xtianity, judeism, and islam...they stole just about everything from pagan religions). guess i lean more towards a spiritual bend like with the native americans. but accepting a relgion to me is allowing myself to be pigeon-holed and restricted. and im angered every time by those that allow their egos to get into the way by forcing their views on others. extremists on both ends of any spectrum are always dangerous people, specially when they only have a little knowledge of what they are talking about. free-thinking and expression must be the watch word and what some of us live and fight for.
8/22/2008 4:40:16 PM	Do you Hate God?
duchessa Yonkers, NY age: 58	How could I hate something that doesn't exist? Duchessa
8/22/2008 4:42:06 PM	Do you Hate God?
duchessa Yonkers, NY age: 58	Quote from pedro_2079: if thats true than ur not really atheist b/c they don't just believe god doesn't exist, they attack the very idea of god don't they JMO No, we don't...we, simply, don't believe god exist. Duchessa
8/22/2008 4:43:10 PM	Do you Hate God?
duchessa Yonkers, NY age: 58	Quote from slightlycrazy: you're wrong pedro, most atheists, (there's always the fanatic) could care less what anyone else believes or doesn't believe in, and we actually spend zero time thinking about any god or religion. May I add that we don't even try to convert people to our way of thinking?
8/22/2008 4:51:21 PM	Do you Hate God?
duchessa Yonkers, NY age: 58	Quote from pedro_2079: well i was wrong agnostics believe that its impossible to know whether an ultimate cause (god) exists and they leave it at that infidels attack religion BTW this is from a dictionary so not my opinion ok? id say im agnostic Sure, the means will alwaysr try to make you feel guilty...and they will use lines as the one you got from the dictionary.....they will tell you that Atheist are responsible for the worst genocides.....and they will forget to mention that the Spaniards -with the excuse of spreading "the faith"- wiped out the people of an entire continent.
8/24/2008 12:09:54 PM	Do you Hate God?
wolfy9459 Dayton, OH age: 47	Just like every one else I can't hate something that ain't there. kenny
8/30/2008 10:49:31 PM	Do you Hate God?
naughty666 Placitas, NM age: 19	i hate god! i once belived him
8/31/2008 8:06:32 AM	Do you Hate God?
duchessa Yonkers, NY age: 58	Quote from naughty666: i hate god! i once belived him Your post only shows me you are young person that has been hurt and blames god for it... Therefore, you believe god exists.
8/31/2008 11:18:37 PM	Do you Hate God?
forever4 Victoria Australia age: 47	yes because its a bit like when your a child and people tell you about the tooth fairy easterbunny and last of all fatherxmas Ionley beleive in what I see if there was a god the world would not be full of hatred for one anothers country and terrorists killing innocent people where is god when you need himlololo yes i do hate god because there aint one
9/2/2008 5:56:06 PM	Do you Hate God?
tichobar Bonita Springs, FL age: 50	I don't hate God. I hate religious fanatic hypocrites. Why can't these medieval morons keep their superstitions to themselves?
9/3/2008 4:53:29 PM	Do you Hate God?
gbelle New Port Richey, FL age: 51	NO WE DON'T HATE GOD,WE DENY THE EXISTANCE.BELIVE ME I WISH IT WERE ALL TRUE BUT IT IS NOT,IT IS CALLED THE GREAT LIE.I WAS BROUGHT UP CATHOLIC AND WAS TAUGHT ABOUT GOD AND RELIGION AS FACT.I WAS ALWAYS SOMEWHAT DOUBTING.WHEN IN FACT IT IS NOT.IT'S ALL A BUNCH OF PAGEN SUPERSTITIONS AND WISHFULL THINKING ALL BASED ON THE FEAR OF DEATH LIVE IN LA LA LAND,BE GOOD AND BELIEVE YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO DIE AND YOU WILL LIVE A HAPPIER LIFE.THAT'S THE GIST OF IT.GET A CLUE.IT'S ALL BS.BIG TIME.THERE IS NO MAGIC MAN IN THE SKY.NO HEAVEN NO HELL. JUST THE HERE AND NOW SO ENJOY.
9/5/2008 9:44:50 AM	Do you Hate God?
duchessa Yonkers, NY age: 58	Quote from tichobar: I don't hate God. I hate religious fanatic hypocrites. Why can't these medieval morons keep their superstitions to themselves? Why not? Because their brains are so brainwashed -to fit the needs of few- that all reasoning is impossible for them. Duchessa
9/9/2008 4:02:33 PM	Do you Hate God?
mrrick1977 Cameron, NY age: 31	I can't believe in what I never seen .
9/25/2008 10:51:14 PM	Do you Hate God?
forever4 Victoria Australia age: 47	good on you Im of the same beleif

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