During the depression we were still mostly a rural country anyway. My grandparents didn't really notice anything was different. You would have noticed if you were in another part of the country.

And as far as welfare is concerned, in Ohio if your single, meaning no kids not married you cant get benefits. But the vast majority of people don't even qualify. And the next thing is SSI and foodstamps and section 8. SSI and section 8 have long long waits....I think its like 2 years or something. In reality, in ohio (i cant speak for other states) if your disabled or a single mother you can still get benefits.....and maybe homeless. So its not an epidemic here. Trust me on this one. Heres why...I have a guy that works for me. He does do what I tell him to. But he don't wanna be there. lol...If he could be on welfare he would. He lives with his sister with two kids from different fathers. His mom is on ssi etc.... But he can't. Hes young, healthy...etc... And his mom and sister anit sharing their obama bucks soooo....he does as much as he has to. The reason I keep him is he can do stuff nobody else wants to. But I hope I am wrong about him. So I give him chance after chance to get it right.

quite so, andy. fiscal conservatives, like myself, often forget that the word 'society' has spawned dirivatives such as 'socialist, socialism' etc. any great society will provide for those who've 'fallen through the cracks'. the challenge for a great society like ours is in balancing needed social programs with the capitalistic foundation that allows america to prosper as it has.

People from different places bring new ideas with them. And these people who do come here, legally, add to our culture. They came here the correct way, and those people generally want to become american. NOw mexicans act like theyre still in mexico. That make me mad. Motivated smart people who want to be american and share our values and are willing to do it the right way we should welcome. .

There has to be a better way. The education system has to be changed. This is getting rediculous.

I think you could see rioting in the cities if Obama lost. Here in Ohio Jon Husted is doing some....what I consider underhanded things to try to stem the flow of Obama voters in the northern part of the state. I could see riots and shit breaking out in Cleveland.

Now if Obama wins, especially if something like a waco, or ruby ridge occured in his second term, I could see separation movements. A populist revolution wouldn't gain any ground I don't believe. The real threat is sectional tensions. Albeit far fetched. Only a region or a collection of states would even have a chance at standing up to the federal govt.

For instance, if 60 percent of the people in say...tennessee are conservative and 40 percent are liberal, the 60 percent will keep the 40% in check. Vice versa in a liberal state.

Truth is, I don't think Obama has been the liberal socialist that the right claims he is. Really....he is more like a rockerfeller republican than anything. He's black, theres things about him that are/seem foreign...and he scares the shit out of white people. So the right says anything they can to demonize him. Like Ive said in the past, he could wake up in the morning as a tea party conservative and the tea party conservatives would all become liberals. Its about the man, not his policies. My reason for not voting for him is policy. Several things. Punting to congress for healthcare reform, mismanaging foreign policy, fast and furious......and my last reason isn't Obama's fault. If he is reelected either people will begin to work with one another again, or it will radicalize even further the right. These f**kers are already stupid, god only knows how many more brain cells they'll lose if obama gets reelected. And Mitt Romney has proven in the past to be a very capable leader. Even though I have no idea what he really stands for.

The next president will have alot of problems to fix. Its best we have someone in office that congress will work with. Because this congress wont work with Obama. If I had my way I'd replace congress. Get rid of them all because theyre not worthy of holding office. They care more about party than their country. And anyone like that don't have any place in government.

step one: disarm us
step two: imprison the opposers.


Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Hitler for example did nothing illegal. Neither is Obama.


The military is being trained to recognize domestic threats.. ie guys in john deere caps

if you don't want a civil war, then stay home and play with your tittys

A continually eroding economy coupled with swarms of immigrants makes destabilization imminent. System is proving unworkable in a fracturing society. What next?

Why should we be responsible for giving anyone "tools"? .

Are you blind? Or just plain stupid? This isn't about race. This could be true for any group of people. It just happens that mexican born hispanics are extremely poor. Their kids will be poor too if we let them stay but not educate or take care of them?


I don't see 12 million chinese or french or whatever illegals. I'm sure american born hispanics whose families have been here....before they were americans probably feel the same way.


Why am I even defending my post when you just cherry pick something I say and present it in a way thats totally out of context to what it said?