| 8/14/2012 10:05:15 PM |
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lilsunshineray5
Fenton, MI
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Does it make sense that as an Atheist I envy Christians and other religious people as being able to actually believe in something? Albeit most of the time they are hypocritical and for the most part ignorant about their own religion.
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| 8/15/2012 2:55:58 AM |
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kriszj
Auburn, AL
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I feel that way sometimes. It would be great thinking that i wont just rot in the ground once i die.
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| 8/15/2012 10:21:25 AM |
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lilsunshineray5
Fenton, MI
27, joined Aug. 2012
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that's pretty much what i mean.
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| 8/16/2012 4:53:47 PM |
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duchessa
Yonkers, NY
63, joined Aug. 2008
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I will never envy those who live a lie....
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| 8/16/2012 8:58:11 PM |
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painkiller9
Stony Point, NY
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I don't believe they are living a lie... I believe they are idiot lemmings who blindly follow misinterpretated information and don't have any idea what the words in their books actually mean.
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| 8/16/2012 10:47:19 PM |
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danmcdonough
Rosemount, MN
42, joined Jun. 2011
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I will never envy those who live a lie....
Good.
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| 8/17/2012 2:51:36 PM |
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duchessa
Yonkers, NY
63, joined Aug. 2008
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I don't believe they are living a lie... I believe they are idiot lemmings who blindly follow misinterpretated information and don't have any idea what the words in their books actually mean.
Dear, whoever buys the concept of a guy 24 x 7 watching / protecting / punishing everything and everybody IS LIVING A LIE.
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| 8/25/2012 12:21:18 PM |
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merqueb
Saint Paul, MN
32, joined Jul. 2012
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Of course it makes sense, you'd almost have to worry if you DIDN'T feel something like this; one of the main selling points of the major world religions is that they offer comfort- the assure us, among other things, that our morals are not arbitrary or groundless, that there is a life after death, that there is a purposeful explanation for the existence of the universe and our place therein, and so on.
Unfortuntately, these explanations are just-so stories that really ONLY function to give us comfort and make us feel warm and fuzzy inside; they really are crap explanations because they are either unintelligible, or lack anything approaching sufficient evidence. But most people value peace of mind above truth or accuracy, even if its at an almost unconscious or subconscious level- in short, most people have no stomach for the truth. And then there's nihilism, that little pest, who comes a'callin as soon as God goes out the door- we each have to find our own satisfactory answer for what our lives mean, and how we should act, if we reject the popular religious worldviews.
And not only this, but we are our own worst enemies to an extent; as humans, we are biologically predisposed to understand events and occurances intentionally or purposefully- evolution has simply engineered us this way, because it served our predecessors well to view the world in this manner, despite it frequently leading to errors in judgment. Human beings naturally think of things, i.e. events, in terms of intentionality and purpose, and thus we are easily lead to project these qualities even onto natural phenomena. At one point, we went so far as to ascribe ALL natural phenomena (weather, the seasons, movement of heavenly bodies, etc.) in terms of the actions of agents, but we still think this way; hence ID/design arguments, the "great artificer" and so on.
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| 8/26/2012 4:13:36 AM |
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azmetalfan
Mesa, AZ
39, joined Mar. 2009
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I feel that way sometimes. It would be great thinking that i wont just rot in the ground once i die.
Think positive. Once you die you will be performing the ultimate act of recycling.
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| 8/26/2012 11:00:52 AM |
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pelham12345
Bronx, NY
35, joined Dec. 2011
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I feel that way sometimes. It would be great thinking that i wont just rot in the ground once i die.
Just because one is atheist doesnt mean you can't be spiritual.. You can not believe in a god and religion and still believe in reincarnation or the concept of a soul that returns to a common lifestream or something 
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| 8/27/2012 2:54:25 PM |
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merqueb
Saint Paul, MN
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Just because one is atheist doesnt mean you can't be spiritual.. You can not believe in a god and religion and still believe in reincarnation or the concept of a soul that returns to a common lifestream or something
I suppose so- people can be fairly inconsistent in their beliefs, and atheists are no exception.
On the other hand, one can only hope that you would be equally suspicious of ALL nonsense, not just some of it; and the existence of an immortal, personal, immaterial soul is no more credible than the existence of a cosmic intervener, or any of the other occult entities posited by various religions.
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| 9/1/2012 12:27:33 PM |
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bradm29
Grand Junction, CO
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I suppose so- people can be fairly inconsistent in their beliefs, and atheists are no exception.
On the other hand, one can only hope that you would be equally suspicious of ALL nonsense, not just some of it; and the existence of an immortal, personal, immaterial soul is no more credible than the existence of a cosmic intervener, or any of the other occult entities posited by various religions.
If one is to accept your premises your going to have to explain why people being kept Alive with machines display no consciousness. The electric impulses are there the organ are alive and oxygenated, but no consciousness is present, why? The only answer that makes any kind of empirical sense to me is, that consciousness is not simply an amalgamation of tissue and chemio-electric responses. Could I be wrong? Sure. But I've seen no proof that I am as of yet.
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| 9/5/2012 7:04:00 AM |
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belphegor1943
Austin, TX
34, joined May. 2012
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Very excellent point.
Is there consciousness without language? Most people I ask answer yes, but I am having difficulty imagining such a consciousness. I am inclined to believe that most of our consciousness is driven by language.
As a computer scientist, one of my chief interests is artificial intelligence. Can we program a computer to think on it's own and formulate its own opinions with reason based on available data? We aren't even close. However, once we learn how our own brain works, we will be able to replicate it into computers. I will bet my life on it. It's the only reason we haven't been successful; we do not yet understand ourselves.
As a more general comment, we are made of the most abundant elements in the galaxy: carbon and hydrogen. So we essentially ARE the universe, or an appendage of it, are we not? I think that's spiritual.
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| 9/5/2012 9:24:52 PM |
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mistymoon77
Le Sueur, MN
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Being an Atheist for many many years, it makes sense to me NOT to believe in utter nonsense of so many gods.. why bother in that one has no explanation for. People are afraid of what they don't understand.. they fear the unknown, we all know that. But let's look at the mind and how that works.. or lack thereof.
We as humans are programmed to always try to make sense of everything we come into contact with. Most christians or religious people are so brain washed that they can't compute the thought of not believing in something.. anything.. to them is better than nothing. But non theists do believe in something.. we believe in facts.. science. reality.. which equals truth. What makes our ways of thinking, our minds, our thoughts so close to understanding each other where you get all kinds of religions together, shit they can't agree on anything other than they think they know there is something greater than all of us out there floating around.. but where... where is this so called existence hiding?  
Religions are based on notions, theories coming from somewhere.. and yet not one single religious person a clue as to where it all began.. and so it goes as we know it be... blind faith.. and faith, what is that exactly? Some words really have no defined meaning. To follow up on the comment about language. Without communication, where would we be?
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| 9/16/2012 11:12:10 PM |
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enemyofreality
Tampa, FL
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Not at all. I wish I could believe in something myself but I rely too much on logic and reason. I can't allow myself to believe that something seemingly physically impossible exists without proof.
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