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3/11/2014 10:09:49 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
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One of the biggest mysteries in aviation history has taken place over the past week. A commercial 777 boing jet has disappeared possibly over the south China sea carrying 239 passengers plus the crew. Was it terrorism or was it a pilot who decided to commit suicide? So far the experts don't even know.

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3/12/2014 12:19:18 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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I guess you will have to get over it because I have a good reason for not having a picture posted. Would you like to bet me that a reply doesn't come after this one?

3/12/2014 12:48:24 AM What Do You Think Happened?  

hugandakiss_xo
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Alien abduction....

3/12/2014 1:50:53 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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Janis, You lost your bet! You can only dream that you will ever become as sweet as (hugsandakiss) and I would like to add that you need to pick better quality men that you go to car shows with.

3/12/2014 1:57:11 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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Hugs, stick with me girl. We will get rid of the filth on NC Chat sooner or later.

3/12/2014 1:59:39 AM What Do You Think Happened?  

hugandakiss_xo
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I think that the trash will disappear when pigs fly

3/12/2014 2:00:32 AM What Do You Think Happened?  

hugandakiss_xo
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I forgot pigs do fly on the Geiko commercial.. lol

3/12/2014 3:05:27 AM What Do You Think Happened?  

newlady2
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I wondered when Tommy would return..

3/12/2014 4:45:12 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
behumbled
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It was Bo-time.

3/12/2014 10:25:48 AM What Do You Think Happened?  

zimzane2
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The most logical explanation would be they are at the bottom of the sea.

3/12/2014 11:46:27 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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hey newlady, I don't mind you knowing who I am at all and I hope you have been doing well.

zim, I think your observation is on the money but what caused them to get to the bottom of the sea? I don't guess you and I know yet since the investigators are still scratching their heads trying to figure all of this out.

newlady & zim . . . I hope both of you are having a great day!

3/12/2014 12:06:22 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
behumbled
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Still no news as of this morning.

3/12/2014 12:24:18 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
azazel4
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It was the north Koreans sending a lol

3/12/2014 1:36:48 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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I want to know how does a commercial 777 boing jet go missing
and no one can locate it.

3/12/2014 2:07:32 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
azazel4
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Airlines probably have all of that information but isn't releasing it cause there's no way a plane would disappear unnoticed by radio or satellite frequency.



[Edited 3/12/2014 2:10:25 PM ]

3/12/2014 5:30:31 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

hugandakiss_xo
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It is scary to think... It just went "POOF"

3/13/2014 1:49:11 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

newlady2
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It will return

3/13/2014 2:02:52 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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I do hope they find something. They thought
they saw something in the water, but it turned
out to not be the jet.

3/13/2014 2:54:11 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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Update:

US Officials Have ‘Indication’ Malaysia Airline Crashed into Indian Ocean
By MARTHA RADDATZ | Good Morning America – 29 minutes ago

U.S. officials have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching. It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News. "We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior official said.

The official initially said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water. Officials later said the plane likely did not fly four or five hours, but did not specify how long it may have been airborne. White House spokesman Jay Carney said, “It's my understanding that based on some new information that's not necessarily conclusive, but new information, an additional search area may be opened in the Indian Ocean, and we are consulting with international partners about the appropriate assets to deploy.”

Carney did not specify the nature of the “new information.” Pentagon officials said that the USS Kidd was being moved at the request of Malaysia and is heading towards an area where the Indian Ocean and the Andaman Sea meet. The ship has helicopters aboard that can scour the area. The U.S. action came hours after Malaysian officials said they had extended their search into the Andaman Sea and had requested help from India in the search for the missing plane and its 239 passengers. Investigators also said today that U.S. officials gave them reasons to keep searching the waters west of Malaysia, far from the flight path of the Malaysia Airlines plane.


"I’ve heard of many incidents from many sources. Like we have said from the start, we have looked at every lead and in most cases — in fact in all cases — that we have pursued, we have not found anything positive," Hishamuddin said. He said that pictures of three large objects floating in the South China Sea posted Wednesday on a Chinese government website were not debris from the missing plane. "A Malaysian maritime enforcement agency surveillance plane was dispatched this morning to investigate potential debris shown on Chinese satellite images. We deployed assets, but found nothing. We have contacted the Chinese Embassy who notified us this afternoon the images were released by mistake and did not show any debris from MH370," he said.

Hishamuddin also dismissed a report by the Wall Street Journal that signals sent by the plane's Rolls Royce engine indicated the plane kept flying for up to five hours. He didn't dispute the plane could have kept flying, but said Rolls Royce did not receive any signals from the engine after it vanished from radar. Earlier in the search, two oil slicks were determined to not be from the plane and an orange object thought to be part of the plane's door was investigated and found to be unrelated.

3/13/2014 6:35:35 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
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newlady, What will return? You're an Air Force lady and you should know better than anyone that airplanes don't take off too well from the bottom of an ocean if that's where this airplane happens to be.

I hope you are doing well.

3/13/2014 6:38:57 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

newlady2
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Operative word there is "if..

3/13/2014 6:44:21 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

hugandakiss_xo
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This scares the hell out of me. With the technology we have these days how can a huge plane go missing. Not to mention all them cell phones.

3/13/2014 8:37:32 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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newlady, you didn't say "IF", you said "IT WILL RETURN". Are we on the same page now?

3/13/2014 10:09:23 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

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Quote from tommy8345:
hey newlady, I don't mind you knowing who I am at all and I hope you have been doing well.

zim, I think your observation is on the money but what caused them to get to the bottom of the sea? I don't guess you and I know yet since the investigators are still scratching their heads trying to figure all of this out.

newlady & zim . . . I hope both of you are having a great day!





Well thank you. I usually do not go back and check responses but it's hot today.

3/13/2014 11:51:27 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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WHAT? It's cold where I live and I don't live that far away from you! Are you okay zim?

3/15/2014 12:58:47 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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This aviation mystery is getting more interesting every day. Now the experts think the plane was hijacked but they still don't have a clue as to whether or not it's on the bottom of an ocean or sitting safely somewhere.

3/15/2014 2:21:31 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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Sorry this is long, but very interesting to read.


Malaysian leader: Plane's Disappearance Deliberate
1 hr. 15 mins. ago By EILEEN NG and IAN MADER of Associated Press

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — The Malaysian jetliner missing for more than a week was deliberately diverted and continued flying for more than six hours after severing contact with the ground, meaning it could have gone as far northwest as Kazakhstan or into the Indian Ocean's southern reaches, Malaysia's leader said Saturday.

Prime Minister Najib Razak's statement confirmed days of mounting speculation that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 to Beijing was not accidental. It also refocused the investigation into the flight's 12-person crew and 227 passengers, and underlined the complicated task for searchers who already have been scouring vast areas of ocean. "Clearly the search for MH370 has entered a new phase," Najib said at a televised news conference.

Najib stressed that investigators were looking into all possibilities as to why the Boeing 777 deviated so drastically from its original flight path, saying authorities could not confirm whether it was a hijacking. Earlier Saturday, a Malaysian official said the plane had been hijacked, though he added that no motive had been established and no demands had been made known. "In view of this latest development, the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board," Najib told reporters, reading from a written statement but not taking any questions.

Police on Saturday went to the Kuala Lumpur homes of both the pilot and co-pilot of the missing plane, according to a guard and several local reporters. Authorities have said they will investigate the pilots as part of their probe, but have released no information about how they are progressing.

Experts have previously said that whoever disabled the plane's communication systems and then flew the jet must have had a high degree of technical knowledge and flying experience. One possibility they have raised was that one of the pilots wanted to commit suicide. The plane departed for an overnight flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing at 12:40 a.m. on March 8. Its communications with civilian air controllers were severed at about 1:20 a.m., and the jet went missing — heralding one of the most puzzling mysteries in modern aviation history.

China, where the bulk of the passengers were from, expressed irritation over what it described as Malaysia's foot-dragging in releasing information about the search. Investigators now have a high degree of certainty that one of the plane's communications systems — the Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System — was disabled before the aircraft reached the east coast of Malaysia, Najib said. Shortly afterward, someone on board switched off the aircraft's transponder, which communicates with civilian air traffic controllers.

Najib confirmed that Malaysian air force defense radar picked up traces of the plane turning back westward, crossing over Peninsular Malaysia into the northern stretches of the Strait of Malacca. Authorities previously had said this radar data could not be verified. "These movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane," Najib said. Although the aircraft was flying virtually blind to air traffic controllers at this point, onboard equipment continued to send "pings" to satellites.

The prime minister said the last confirmed signal between the plane and a satellite came at 8:11 a.m. - 7 hours and 31 minutes after takeoff. This was more than five hours later than the previous time given by Malaysian authorities as the possible last contact. Airline officials have said the plane had enough fuel to fly for up to about eight hours. "The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact," Najib said.

3/15/2014 2:21:52 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

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(Cont.)

He said authorities had determined that the plane's last communication with a satellite was in one of two possible arcs, or "corridors" — a northern one from northern Thailand through to the border of the Central Asian countries Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, and a southern one from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean. The northern route might theoretically have taken the plane through China, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan — which hosts U.S. military bases — and Central Asia, and it is unclear how it might have gone undetected. The region is also home to extremist Islamist groups, unstable governments and remote, sparsely populated areas.

Flying south would have put the plane over the Indian Ocean, with an average depth of 3,890 meters (12,762 feet) and thousands of kilometers (miles) from the nearest land mass. Britain-based aviation security consultant Chris Yates thought it was highly unlikely the plane would have taken the northern route across land in Asia. "In theory, any country that sees a strange blip is going to get fighter planes up to have a look," he said. "And if those fighter planes can't make head or tail of what it is, they will shoot it down."

Najib said search efforts in the South China Sea, where the plane first lost contact, had ended. Indian officials said navy ships supported by long-range surveillance planes and helicopters scoured Andaman Sea islands for a third day Saturday without any success in finding evidence of the missing jet. Two-thirds of the plane's passengers were Chinese, and China's government has been under pressure to give relatives firm news of the aircraft's fate. In a stinging commentary on Saturday, the Chinese government's Xinhua News Agency said the Malaysian information was "painfully belated," resulting in wasted efforts and straining the nerves of relatives. "Given today's technology, the delay smacks of either dereliction of duty or reluctance to share information in a full and timely manner," Xinhua said. "That would be intolerable."

Najib said he understood the need for families to receive information, but that his government wanted to release only fully corroborated reports. He said his country has been sharing information with international investigators, even when it meant placing "national security concerns" second to the search. U.S., British and Malaysian air safety investigators have been on the ground in Malaysia to assist with the investigation. In the Chinese capital, relatives of passengers who have anxiously awaited news at a hotel near Beijing's airport said they felt deceived at not being told earlier about the plane's last signal.

"We are going through a roller coaster, and we feel helpless and powerless," said a woman, who declined to give her name. At least one of the relatives saw a glimmer of hope in word that the plane's disappearance was a deliberate act, rather than a crash. "It's very good," said a woman, who gave only her surname, Wen.

Malaysian police have already said they are looking at the psychological state, family life and connections of pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, and co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27. Both have been described as respectable, community-minded men. Zaharie joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981 and had more than 18,000 hours of flying experience. His Facebook page showed an aviation enthusiast who flew remote-controlled aircraft, posting pictures of his collection, which included a lightweight twin-engine helicopter and an amphibious aircraft.

Fariq was contemplating marriage after having just graduated to the c*ckpit of a Boeing 777. He has drawn scrutiny after the revelation that in 2011, he and another pilot invited two women aboard their aircraft to sit in the c*ckpit for a flight from Phuket, Thailand, to Kuala Lumpur. Fourteen countries are involved in the search for the plane, using 43 ships and 58 aircraft. A U.S. P-8A Poseidon, the most advanced long-range anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare aircraft in the world, was to arrive over the weekend and sweep parts of the Indian Ocean, the U.S. Defense Department said in a statement.

3/15/2014 6:17:42 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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cats, thank you for all of that interesting information. Hollywood will probably start making a movie about this mystery before it even has and ending.

3/17/2014 9:49:00 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
happyg1
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tommy
you are probably right on the movie, my guess is they are already picking out cast members
but it is a scary thing that it just went "poof" like hugs stated

3/18/2014 1:30:40 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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I know happy, it's one of the biggest mysteries in aviation history.

I don't see how this is going to turn out to be a happy ending for all of the families involved wondering what happened to their loved ones.

I hope Hollywood will wait awhile to do a movie about this to show respect to all the families involved during their time of sorrow.

3/18/2014 6:14:26 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
behumbled
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No Janis..You are watermelon ~~~Mr Tommy is real.I've met him personally....OH yah you have me blocked or so you thought..

3/18/2014 1:37:17 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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Thank you for this information my good friend.

3/20/2014 4:24:29 AM What Do You Think Happened?  
behumbled
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Good morning Tommy...Up date on the missing plane..They might have found it off the coast of Australia. To soon to tell,there out there now searching this morning.

3/20/2014 1:38:21 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

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And many thanks from me also *smile* ..

3/20/2014 4:27:39 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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This is just me thinking out of the box so to say.

This is the first time since I can remember that a
jet cannot be found and it's taking this long
to find it.

Could it have been hijacked and taken to a place
that would hide the jet like an ghost air strip
and put in a hanger so it can't be found?

3/20/2014 5:36:32 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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behumbled, Thank you for the update.

cats, I've thought about all the things you mentioned as possibilities too. My prayers are with all of those families who just wait and wait wanting to know something.

3/21/2014 11:23:27 AM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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Something just isn't right.
It's taking too long to find a huge jet.

3/21/2014 2:14:49 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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cats, when they first started searching for the plane in the south China sea the water depth was only 300 feet. Now they are searching in the southern Indian Ocean where the water depth is several miles deep. If that plane happened to crash there it may never be found. This mystery continues.

3/21/2014 5:19:13 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

hugandakiss_xo
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Did they ever find Amelia ?

3/22/2014 5:26:15 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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Parts of her and parts of her plane if I remember correctly.

3/22/2014 7:07:03 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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IF... America is THE most powerful and technologically
advanced country in the world...

Then why have we NOT been able to find flight MH 370...

It's down right scary...and I see others from another forum
saying the same thing about it being hijacked...

3/22/2014 7:15:41 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

newlady2
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And perhaps they arent giving out all the news for safe keeping..

3/23/2014 12:52:27 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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That could be true newlady, but something is not right.

3/24/2014 2:39:50 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tazz_mania4
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I'm upset with the Malaysian prime minister for announcing that all the passengers are dead and they haven't picked up the first peace of evidence. SAD

3/24/2014 2:51:45 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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Right on Tazz! That announcement was way too premature.

3/24/2014 4:31:56 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

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Malaysia: Missing flight crashed in Indian Ocean

1 hr. ago

KUALA LUMPUR, March 24 (Reuters) - Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, which disappeared over two weeks ago en route to Beijing, crashed thousands of miles away in the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said on Monday, citing new satellite data.

All 239 people on board were presumed dead, airline officials said. Analysis of satellite information from British company Inmarsat had shown that the Boeing 777's last position was in the Indian Ocean west of Perth, Australia, Najib said in a statement. "This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites," he said. "It is therefore, with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, Flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."

He added that the families of the passengers and crew had been informed. "For them, the past few weeks have been heart-breaking. I know this news must be harder still," he said. Relatives of those on board received the news in a Malaysia Airlines SMS message which said: "We have to assume beyond all reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and none of those on board survived."

After the message, there were hysterical scenes at the Beijing hotel where many of the relatives of those on board are staying. More than 150 of the passengers were Chinese. People wailed, cried and dropped to the floor. One woman shouted out: "It's not possible, it's not possible." A Reuter’s reporter on the scene saw at least four people being carried away on stretchers. China's government immediately demanded that Malaysia share all information and evidence which showed the plane went down in the Indian Ocean.

Najib's comments came as an Australian navy ship was close to finding possible debris from the jetliner after a mounting number of sightings of floating objects that are believed to parts of the plane. The search site is about 2,500 km (1,550 miles) southwest of Perth, in icy sub-Arctic seas that are in one of the most remote parts of the globe. The objects, described as a "grey or green circular object" and an "orange rectangular object", were spotted on Monday afternoon, said Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott, adding that three planes were also en route to the area.

Flight MH370 vanished from civilian radar screens less than an hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing on March 8. No confirmed sighting of the plane has been made since and there is no clue what went wrong. Attention and resources in the search for the plane had shifted from an initial focus north of the Equator to an increasingly narrowed stretch of rough sea in the southern Indian Ocean, thousands of miles from the original flight path.

FLOATING OBJECTS
Earlier on Monday, Xinhua news agency said a Chinese Ilyushin IL-76 aircraft spotted two "relatively big" floating objects and several smaller white ones dispersed over several kilometres. In a further sign the search was bearing fruit, the U.S. Navy was flying in its high-tech black box detector to the area. The so-called black boxes - the c*ckpit voice recorder and flight data recorder - record what happens on board planes in flight. At crash sites, finding the black boxes soon is crucial because the locator beacons they carry fade out after 30 days. Investigators believe someone on the flight shut off the plane's communications systems. Partial military radar tracking showed it turning west and re-crossing the Malay Peninsula, apparently under the control of a skilled pilot.

That has led them to focus on hijacking or sabotage, but investigators have not ruled out technical problems. Faint electronic "pings" also detected by Inmarsat suggested it flew for another six hours or so, but the initial analysis could do no better than place its final signal on one of two vast arcs, the north and south corridors. Najib said Inmarsat had been performing further calculations on the data. "Using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort, they have been able to shed more light on MH370's flight path," he said. "Based on their new analysis, Inmarsat and the U.K. Air Accidents Investigation Branch have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor, and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth."

Asked how Inmarsat experts had made the breakthrough, Chris McLaughlin, senior vice president for external affairs, said: "They tested (the earlier findings) against a number of known flights of other aircraft and came to the conclusion that only the southern route was possible." The new method "gives the approximate direction of travel, plus or minus about 100 miles, to a track line," he told Britain's Sky News. "Unfortunately this is a 1990s satellite over the Indian Ocean that is not GPS-equipped. All we believe we can do is to say that we believe it is in this general location, but we cannot give you the final few feet and inches where it landed. It's not that sort of system."



[Edited 3/24/2014 4:32:34 PM ]

3/24/2014 11:26:06 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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cats, thanks for the update!

3/25/2014 7:30:10 AM What Do You Think Happened?  

hugandakiss_xo
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In other words they still don't have clue....

3/25/2014 1:58:53 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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In other words you are exactly right hugs.

3/25/2014 5:23:37 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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No clue and they shouldn't
have told the families like that. That's not right

3/25/2014 8:46:55 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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cats, I couldn't have said what you just said any better.

3/26/2014 2:32:31 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

catsmeow53
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Planes, Ships Chase New Leads in Search for Malaysian Jet
5hrs. ago By Matt Siegel and Rujun Shen of Reuters

PERTH/KUALA LUMPUR, March 26 (Reuters) - New satellite images have revealed more than 100 objects in the southern Indian Ocean that could be debris from a Malaysian jetliner missing for 18 days, while planes scouring the frigid seas on Wednesday also reported seeing potential wreckage. The latest sightings came as searchers stepped up efforts to find some trace of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, thought to have crashed on March 8 with the loss of all 239 people aboard after flying thousands of miles off course.

"We have now had four separate satellite leads, from Australia, China and France, showing possible debris," Malaysian Acting Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein told a news conference. "It is now imperative that we link the debris to MH370." The latest images were captured by France-based Airbus Defence & Space on Monday and showed 122 potential objects in a 400-sq-km (155-sq-mile) area of ocean, ishammuddin said. The objects varied in size from one metre to 23 metres (75 ft) in length, he said.

Flight MH370 vanished from civilian radar screens less than an hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur bound for Beijing, and investigators believe someone on the flight may have shut off the plane's communications systems. Partial military radar tracking showed it turning west and recrossing the Malay Peninsula, apparently under the control of a skilled pilot. Malaysia's air force has released few details of its radar tracking beyond saying the plane was last detected off the northwest coast heading towards India.

But the country's deputy defence minister, Abdul Rahim Bakri, told parliament that no action was taken when the unidentified plane was spotted because it was assumed it had been ordered to turn back, local media said. "It was detected by our radar, but the turn back was by a non-hostile plane and we thought maybe it was at the directive of the control tower," he was quoted as saying. Asked at the news conference whether air force radar operators thought the plane had been told to turn back by air traffic controllers, Hishammuddin, who is also defence minister, said he could not confirm it.

MIDDLE OF NOWHERE
A dozen aircraft from Australia, the United States, New Zealand, China, Japan and South Korea were once more scouring the seas some 2,500 km (1,550 miles) southwest of Perth in the hunt for wreckage on Wednesday, after bad weather the previous day forced the suspension of the search. "The crash zone is as close to nowhere as it's possible to be but it's closer to Australia than anywhere else," Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said, before leading the country's parliament in a moment's silence.

"A considerable amount of debris has been sighted in the area where the flight was last recorded. Bad weather and inaccessibility have so far prevented any of it from being recovered. But we are confident that it will be." Wednesday's good weather was unlikely to last, in an area renowned among mariners for high winds and big waves. "This is only going to be a narrow window of opportunity by the looks of things, because another weather system is moving in for Thursday, which looks like that will bring an increase in winds again and also lead to a reduction in visibility through the rain associated with the cold front," Neil Bennett, a spokesman for Australia's Bureau of Meteorology, told Reuters.

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak this week confirmed Flight MH370 had crashed in the southern Indian Ocean. Citing satellite-data analysis by British company Inmarsat, he said there was no doubt the Boeing 777 came down in one of the most remote places on Earth. Recovery of wreckage could unlock clues about why and how the plane had diverted so far off course in one of aviation's most puzzling mysteries. Theories range from a hijacking to sabotage or a possible suicide by one of the pilots, but investigators have not ruled out technical problems. Australia, China and France have all released satellite images over the past week showing possible debris in the same general area as the latest sighting, but no confirmed wreckage has been located.

PASSENGER RELATIVES DISTRAUGHT
An Australian navy ship returned to the area after being driven away by gale force winds and 20-metre (66 ft) waves on Tuesday, while a Chinese icebreaker and three Chinese navy vessels were also in the search zone. Two Chinese ships were looking for a two-metre floating object spotted earlier in the day by an aircraft, China's state news agency Xinhua reported. The United States has sent an undersea Navy drone and a high-tech black box detector which will be fitted to an Australian Defence vessel due in Perth in the coming days.

The so-called black boxes - the c*ckpit voice recorder and flight data recorder - record what happens during flight, but time is running out to pick up locator beacons that stop about a month after a crash due to limited battery life. Malaysia said on Tuesday that the U.S. "Towed Pinger Locator" would not arrive in the search area until April 5, which would give it only a few days to find the black box before the beacon battery would be expected to run out. The prolonged and so far fruitless search and investigation have taken a toll, with dozens of distraught relatives of Chinese passengers clashing with police in Beijing on Tuesday, accusing Malaysia of "delays and deception".

Malaysia's confused initial response to the plane's disappearance and a perception of poor communications have enraged many relatives of the more than 150 Chinese passengers and have strained ties between Beijing and Kuala Lumpur. Chinese special envoy Zhang Yesui met Malaysia's Najib on Wednesday and called for "unremitting efforts" to find the plane, Xinhua said.

3/26/2014 3:01:08 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
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cats, thanks once again for the latest update. This airplane drama is just crazy!

3/26/2014 9:08:29 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
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I have been hearing for days that over 100 objects have been spotted floating in the south Indian Ocean with ships and boats floating in the same area. My question is why haven't any of these ships and boats picked up some of these objects so that investigations can begin to find out if any of these objects just might be parts from an airplane?

3/28/2014 3:46:01 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

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New Malaysia plane search area turns up objects 6 hrs. ago

PERTH, Australia (AP) — Australian officials moved the search area for the lost Malaysian jetliner 1,100 kilometers (680 miles) to the northeast Friday following a new analysis of radar data, and planes quickly found multiple objects in the new zone. Five out of 10 aircraft hunting for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 found objects of various colors Friday, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said. It said it was not clear whether the objects were from the plane, and photos of them would be analyzed overnight.

AMSA said the items included two rectangular objects that were blue and grey — among the colors of the missing plane. A Chinese patrol ship in the area will attempt to locate the objects on Saturday, it said. The three-week hunt for the jet has been filled with possible sightings, with hundreds of objects identified by satellite and others by plane, but so far not a single piece of debris has been confirmed. Australian officials said they turned away from the old search area, which they had combed for a week, because a new analysis of radar data suggests the plane had flown faster and therefore ran out of fuel more quickly than previously estimated. The new area is closer to land and has calmer weather than the old one, which will make searching easier.

"We have moved on" from the old search area, said John Young, manager of AMSA's emergency response division. The radar data that was re-analyzed was received soon after Flight 370 lost communications and veered from its scheduled path March 8. The Beijing-bound flight carrying 239 people turned around soon after taking off from Kuala Lumpur, flew west toward the Strait of Malacca and disappeared from radar. The search area has changed several times since the plane vanished as experts analyzed a frustratingly small amount of data from the aircraft, including the radar signals and "pings" that a satellite picked up for several hours after radar and voice contact was lost.

The latest analysis indicated the aircraft was traveling faster than previously estimated, resulting in increased fuel use and reducing the possible distance it could have flown before going down in the Indian Ocean. Just as a car loses gas efficiency when driving at high speeds, a plane will get less out of a tank of fuel when it flies faster. Malaysia's civil aviation chief, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, told reporters in Kuala Lumpur that personnel at Boeing Co. in Seattle had helped with the analysis of the flight. Planes and ships had spent a week searching about 2,500 kilometers (1,550 miles) southwest of Perth, Australia, the base for the search. Now they are searching about 1,850 kilometers (1,150 miles) west of the city.

"This is our best estimate of the area in which the aircraft is likely to have crashed into the ocean," Martin Dolan, chief commissioner of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, said at a news conference in Canberra. He said a wide range of scenarios went into the calculation. "We're looking at the data from the so-called pinging of the satellite, the polling of the satellites, and that gives a distance from a satellite to the aircraft to within a reasonable approximation," he said. He said that information was coupled with various projections of aircraft performance and the plane's distance from the satellites at given times. Dolan said the search now is for surface debris to give an indication of "where the main aircraft wreckage is likely to be. This has a long way to go."

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3/28/2014 11:04:49 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
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Can you folks believe how incompetent this search effort has been?

3/29/2014 1:04:59 PM What Do You Think Happened?  

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Its just unbelievable on how long it's been.
All this technology

3/29/2014 2:46:11 PM What Do You Think Happened?  
tommy8345
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Now they have started a new search 650 miles northwest of the last search but still in the Indian Ocean. This is beginning to sound like hide and go seek like we all played when we were kids.

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The search for wreckage from Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 moved 1,100km to the north-east yesterday following a fresh analysis of radar and satellite data. Five aircraft combing the new stretch of the Indian Ocean quickly found multiple objects which ships will try to locate on Saturday. The search zone was re¬calibrated, bringing it considerably closer to the Western Australian coast, after data analysis indicated that the Boeing 777 –which vanished soon after taking off from Kuala Lumpur three weeks ago –was flying faster than initially estimated, and therefore would have run out of fuel more quickly.