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5/12/2014 8:49:15 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Daddy is in a full blown flash back and shooting everything that moves.The cops are there.Uncle cousins hostage.I could hear my little cousins crying in the background.Im so scared.Scared somebody will get killed by Dad or the cops will have to shoot him.My mom is in surgery as we speak...she's had several heart attacks and strokes.Im 12 hrs from Dad and believe I could get out and run faster than this van can drive...Charley s driving.

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5/12/2014 9:40:03 AM Pray hard pls  
just_zoe1958
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I'm so sorry Autumn. Just be real careful that you don't get injured.
Something similar happened in my area recently. A veteran threatened his family, with a gun, and a young family member ended up killing him to protect the others. So sad and tragic for all.
Let's just pray the police use tear gas or force that isn't life threatening.
I pray for everyone's safety.

5/12/2014 12:35:14 PM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
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Sad. If he's actually shooting rounds when the police arrived its not going to turn out well.My heart goes out to you.

5/12/2014 2:55:36 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Nobody injured Daddy in hospital...Yes he was shooting when the cops arrived.Nearly shot my two little cousins as they went to catch the school bus.My lil cousin grabbed his little sister by the hair and dragged her back into their house as bullets were flying.Then the poor lil guy was afraid he would be in trouble for hair pulling! Poor kid!My mom had surgery this morning.Shes awake and doing well.Im headed to TX in the morning.Somehow I've got to see to it this NEVER happens again.People very seriously could have DIED today.Im ok but stressed n emotional...which is nothing new.

5/12/2014 4:07:09 PM Pray hard pls  
just_zoe1958
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Oh, thank God, Autumn.
I feel bad that your dad is troubled.
Be sure to take time for yourself. You may need to step aside, every once in a while, and let others help or take charge.

5/12/2014 5:08:08 PM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
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Hes going to get help. Luckily nobody was killed or wounded.You will get to see him in a locked ward for Fathers Day.Leave him there until the medical professionals are done with him or the next incident might be worse.Sorry! Mental health issues are serious and his certainly needs to be addressed.

5/12/2014 6:51:47 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Richard I didn't want him released last time.I KNEW this would happen.Yes it's always been deadly serious.Ive been fighting for help for my Dad LONG before he had that big heart attack n surgery.I even spoke with the Kernal on the crisis team.They told me Daddy has to do something documented by police before they could do anything.Well I hope this satisfies that requirement because if not my Dad is going to end up killing someone.

5/12/2014 7:15:38 PM Pray hard pls  

21stcent
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Glad to hear Mom is alright and nobody was seriously hurt by Dad.

5/12/2014 8:00:08 PM Pray hard pls  

jrbogie1949
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Ventura, CA
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my thoughts are with you and yours, autum..

5/12/2014 8:27:32 PM Pray hard pls  

newlady2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (42,595)
Goldsboro, NC
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autumn... be very careful and dont let your gard down.. Yes praying

5/12/2014 9:57:51 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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He should be arriving in huston about now.Hes calm.He has has no concept he did anything wrong.He believed he was under fire and shot at people trying to shoot him.Ima rest tonight.Charely with me.I have to remove all of Dad's stuff as he can never return to that property.I don't know what I'll do with however many more cats he has down there.I can't take on any more.If no option can be found...Ima try to see if I can get a rescue to step up but I'll bet I'm going to have to put a bunch down...That's gonna kill me, but I can't leave them to starve or be treated cruelly.

5/13/2014 7:33:50 AM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
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Dear a kernal is corn. You must have talked to a Colonel!

5/13/2014 8:09:50 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Thanks Richard, lol.But to be fair his answer was about worth that much...A single Kernal of corn.I know it's not his fault that the law is what it is but it needs changing.People should not have to nearly be killed before a veteran can get help.I have seen this day comming and stated it over and over.All of my pleas fell on deaf ears.Nobody can say I have not been persistant.

5/13/2014 8:14:50 AM Pray hard pls  

chris691
Tucson, AZ
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

5/13/2014 8:19:30 AM Pray hard pls  

chris691
Tucson, AZ
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Glad dads ok tell the VA get there act together

5/13/2014 11:56:55 AM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
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Burlington, KY
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Thats BS. The same VA your dad uses is the one gdaddy and others use.You are in denial.He is sick and needs help-its available.But firing guns at loved ones isnt the way to get it.Sometimes we have to use "tough love"...I think you need that now.His behavior is inexcusable and he is putting you and his family through hell..let him go before you or somebody else gets hurt and dont condone it!! JMHO

5/13/2014 1:31:09 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Condone what? I'm trying to get him in a facility that can manage his behaviors.

5/13/2014 1:38:31 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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And Richard If you can get that help better than me then tell me how.Because I've been trying HARD.This is not the 1st shooting incedent and I have in the past barricaded myself in the house.I even have a crossbar on my door.Daddy fully believes he was under fire.He has no concept he did anything wrong.HE thinks we are all over reacting.He was going to execute his own tripolegic brother to protect him from being captured yesturday morning.

5/13/2014 3:19:44 PM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
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Drama. Ridiculous. You can get a mental inquest if this stuff has any, proof evidence or validity.Police reports, witnesses, whatever.If he did any of the stuff you allege he is a menace to himself and others. "Trying" isnt enough.Start demanding help. Call your sheriff,the cops and even your Congress person. You should not have to live in fear and he needs to be locked up before he hurts you or someone else!

5/13/2014 3:40:12 PM Pray hard pls  

gdaddy47
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Columbia, TN
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Quote from whiskeyrichard1:
Drama. Ridiculous. You can get a mental inquest if this stuff has any, proof evidence or validity.Police reports, witnesses, whatever.If he did any of the stuff you allege he is a menace to himself and others. "Trying" isnt enough.Start demanding help. Call your sheriff,the cops and even your Congress person. You should not have to live in fear and he needs to be locked up before he hurts you or someone else!





Yup, Get all the cop reports and news clippings and any other documentation you can get.

5/13/2014 4:08:50 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Quote from gdaddy47:
Yup, Get all the cop reports and news clippings and any other documentation you can get.


I already plan to.And I agree w you, Richard.And very soon you'll see proof.We re on the road there now.

5/13/2014 4:14:29 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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G Daddy somebody flagged you.I quoted you which is why my post isn't showing.I said I plan to and Richard will have proof soon.Then perhaps he will see its NOT drama but real life and not everyone makes crap of here.I have no motive to make up such a horrible thing.

5/14/2014 7:45:12 AM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
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autumn..I dont need proof! You do! Im on your side.

5/14/2014 8:41:50 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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I feel like you think I'm lying.Richard when I got here last night and seen what details I have I puked.Theres a lot more I havnt seen do to it was night and pouring rain.He even thought "they" were comming through his bedroom floor get him! 10 shot gun rounds he blew through just there alone with his poor freaked out old dogs in the room.I cant even get Elizebeth to eat canned food and Miracle just hugs me in a death grip and trembles constantly all over.

5/14/2014 8:49:44 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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I'm taking video statements pics ammo spent rounds police reports what all do I need to make certain this never happens again and Daddy gets the help he needs.Ill be leaving for Houston in a few hours.Head hurts so bad I can barely see.NEED hot shower n to get ready.Charley also thought it couldn't be as bad as I'm discribing...He just sat here with this odd expression kinda pale.Now he sees.

5/14/2014 10:34:28 AM Pray hard pls  

gdaddy47
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,373)
Columbia, TN
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No no no, Richard and I aren't slamming you. We are on your side. We are saying that you need all the documentation you can acquire to get help for your dad. He is a menace and needs to be put away for awhile so he can't hurt anyone. So go get it.

Flagging me?!? Phtttt..... Whoever did they need to know that I don't give a ratz rump.

You just get all the documentation you can.

5/14/2014 11:09:32 AM Pray hard pls  
just_zoe1958
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I can't see why what you said would be flagged, Gdaddy.
It helps to have an advocate or someone outside of the family for anything you are fighting for.

5/14/2014 11:12:24 AM Pray hard pls  

newlady2
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Hey Ladybug.. Get the lead out -- we are all worrying with you but you need to get busy!!

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5/14/2014 11:25:21 AM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
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Burlington, KY
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For what its worth here I think "daddy" is playing a game.We used to call it "singing the crazy song"...an act to get attention, or whatever or compensation. The Vietnam War has been over for at least 45 years.Claiming "flashbacks" now is just pure bullshit. Autumn isnt facing that reality and I feel sorry for her. A lot of guys have used Vietnam as an excuse and a crutch. Truth is most of them spend a tour of duty "in the rear with the gear", what we call REMFS. What her dad is doing is an act.He needs a good a** whipping, thats all. JMHO

5/14/2014 3:11:15 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

5/14/2014 3:49:54 PM Pray hard pls  

21stcent
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Autumn, I know you are doing the best you can do and do what is right for your Dad. He is fortunate to have a daughter like you looking out for his best interests. Glad Charley is there with you, don't forget to give him a hug and say those two simple words to him, Thank you.

5/14/2014 7:20:20 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Thank you 21 Lady n everyone.Am leaving Houston vA...Richard I do know what you are saying but that is not what's going on w Dad.As for pay...He's already 100 percent t.I do wish you were right though...With everything me.We have to go back to kilgore and take care of some things then return here tomorrow.Weve even been told to get a motel we re gonna be needed here for a few days.

5/14/2014 10:38:45 PM Pray hard pls  

toughluck78
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Mineral Wells, TX
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That uh... That's not really how flashbacks work in real life. Does he have some other mental deficiency?

5/15/2014 3:06:20 AM Pray hard pls  

hoople65
Jacksonville, FL
52, joined Oct. 2011


I had to deal with a family member with dementia. Hard road. Pray for you I will. Try not to let yourself hate him, ne knows not what he does. Private me if I can help.

5/15/2014 7:26:02 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Ptsd can manifest in many ways...my symptoms are nowhere near what my Father's are...but then I've never been to war.Daddy does have other problems they've grouped together to call dementia for lack of a proper label.I'm less interested in labels and more so in keeping everyone safe.on the Rd back to Houston...we're gonna stay down there until things are handled

5/15/2014 10:35:56 AM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
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I posted compensation OR attention.Daddy is acting out and badly.It might be something in his head, but it aint flashbacks...thats BS.What unit was he with, when and what is his 100% disability and tell us how it is service connected????

5/15/2014 8:06:56 PM Pray hard pls  
prettypeas
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Cadott, WI
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Yes, that's Dementia. .....Alzheimer's. Same difference.

Autum, you got him checked in now? Otherwise, I was gonna say, why the f**k didn't you take his gun away from him? I would've dropped him off at the VA with his loaded gun on him and drove off. They would then have been forced to deal with him.

5/15/2014 8:12:27 PM Pray hard pls  
python1363
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Be safe sweetie, my prayers are with you and your family......

5/15/2014 9:01:24 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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I'm hanging in here but too exhausted to talk much.I have all the proof I need...now for an atty...You folks doubting are dead wrong...I respect your opinions on most topics, but this time, not. Youve all been good people to me, but it's exactly as I say.Nothing has been exaggerated or embellished and I wish to GOD Daddy were faking this...because if he were , if I had the slightest doubt...I would throw my hands in their air and walk away.I want to...life would certainly be a whole lot easier.
I met w Daddys doctors and saw Dad.He thought I Uncle and cousin were dead until they walked me through the door.Theres a lot more but what the doc said made a Lotta sense.I'm hoping this time he will get help.Id like for him to have and enjoy sanity if it's possible.But I don't think they'll ever make him safe to be free.I do however believe they are listening now.Im glad nobody actually got killed.Dad thinks he killed 8 wounded 2.

5/15/2014 10:02:18 PM Pray hard pls  

tknme2
Over 2,000 Posts (2,902)
Modesto, CA
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Autumnsmile stay strong our loveing prayers are with you & your family. I'm so glad you have charlie to lean on & help you through this time in your life. Hugs to both of you.

5/16/2014 8:13:42 AM Pray hard pls  
just_zoe1958
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,787)
Burlington, VT
58, joined Dec. 2011


Dear Autumn,
I don't think anyone means to say you were making it up. They just don't understand and are trying to rationalize it.

A person with dementia can indeed become violent. Not all do, but it does happen more than reported. And yes, they can kill someone. I have seen a sweet person become violently angry as the dementia progressed. I can't imagine having both ptsd and dementia with violent tendencies. Medication helps but doesn't always control it 100% of the time.

Autumn, remember your dad the way he was because that was his true self. You are a loving daughter who truly cares about others. Stay strong, stay loving.
I will say a prayer for you and your family.

5/16/2014 8:19:47 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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Charley has been a Godsend...This motel coffee is good.I finally ate n held it down and ate like a pig.I slept n showered and am regenerating.Head clearing.Gonna talk to some attys...

5/16/2014 8:31:44 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
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And you Zoe are a priceless gem.Thank you....I know no one is TRYING to be mean.They art here they don't know all the details and they are not looking into the eyes of an insane man.My Dad was dangerous long before that heart attack but he was a lot more sane than this.His insanity mostly happened at night when he was sundowning.He. is obviously full blown something now.

5/16/2014 4:43:47 PM Pray hard pls  
just_zoe1958
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Burlington, VT
58, joined Dec. 2011


Thank you, Autumn. You are the one struggling and staying strong.

Hoople~ So true, so true and so hard. I saw the frailty and the forgetfulness. They need us more than ever, We become their voice. Thank you for the reminder.

5/16/2014 5:27:24 PM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
70, joined Sep. 2013


Heres the deal...hopefully he will die soon and not take anybody with him to the grave! "Sin Loi" (tough shit) as we Vietnam vets used to say...I am sympathetic to you but I could give a rats a** about him.He is bringing you down and putting others in jeopardy. As a soldier and a Vietnam vet I am against that kind of behavior by one of ours and it reflects on all of us..." toe tag him and bag him"....harsh ? Yeah!



[Edited 5/16/2014 5:28:05 PM ]

5/16/2014 10:02:53 PM Pray hard pls  

hoople65
Jacksonville, FL
52, joined Oct. 2011


Quote from whiskeyrichard1:
Heres the deal...hopefully he will die soon and not take anybody with him to the grave! "Sin Loi" (tough shit) as we Vietnam vets used to say...I am sympathetic to you but I could give a rats a** about him.He is bringing you down and putting others in jeopardy. As a soldier and a Vietnam vet I am against that kind of behavior by one of ours and it reflects on all of us..." toe tag him and bag him"....harsh ? Yeah!


Your a snarly old f**k aren't you?
I'd love to b*tch slap you in front of all your friends Kirk Douglas style you f**king REMF.

5/16/2014 11:08:44 PM Pray hard pls  

gdaddy47
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,373)
Columbia, TN
69, joined Sep. 2009


I have to agree with D*ckie. Nam is not his problem. Flashbacks after 45 years is a bunch of crap. Yep I had my fair share of things to happen to me concerning the things I saw and did in Nam but after a few years you finally handle it. I won't go into it. The actions of your dad has nothing to do with Nam. I truly hope he gets help and is put away until he is helped. Another thing; he really doesn't need to yell "The enemy is attacking and I'm shooting them" around any combat vets because he would get his butt handed to him.

Hoople, b*tch slap me too.

5/17/2014 5:53:31 AM Pray hard pls  

hoople65
Jacksonville, FL
52, joined Oct. 2011


Quote from gdaddy47:
I have to agree with D*ckie. Nam is not his problem. Flashbacks after 45 years is a bunch of crap. Yep I had my fair share of things to happen to me concerning the things I saw and did in Nam but after a few years you finally handle it. I won't go into it. The actions of your dad has nothing to do with Nam. I truly hope he gets help and is put away until he is helped. Another thing; he really doesn't need to yell "The enemy is attacking and I'm shooting them" around any combat vets because he would get his butt handed to him.

Hoople, b*tch slap me too.


Your opinion may be valid but you never said " hopefully he'll die soon", so no b*tch slap for you.

5/17/2014 9:08:11 AM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
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hoople. You are such a badass that you hide your face! REMF? Combat MEDIC 1/501ST/101ST

Kirk Douglas style???? what a tough guy! LOL Maybe YOU WILL DIE SOON TOO!

5/17/2014 9:51:46 AM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
70, joined Sep. 2013


Hidden profile and no picture hoople.The only think you can spank is your monkey !!! Go sit in the corner and eat your cheetos biotch!

5/17/2014 11:43:29 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (16,449)
Counce, TN
53, joined May. 2009


Obviously you guys have not been reading what I've been saying throughout this entire thread.You jump on one thought and ignore every other fact that has been clearly stated repetively.Reguardless whether you are right or wrong...Richard you are a real a** for saying that to me.It doesn't matter how self righteous you feel in your chosen opinion.... that was an outright cruel and vicious attack on a family member already dealing with enough crap making certain this can never happen again.Its not my nature to be "The bad guy" but thats. what Im having to be and am starting to have hope that FFINALLY somebody is listening.Maybe if you go back and actually read my words...even long before this thread ,you will realize how rotten your behavior just was.
Gdaddy I strongly disagree , however I did not feel like I was being verbally attacked when you expressed your opinion.You at least had some self restraint.I still resent it ...even if I have my own conflicting emotions.I'm so dadgummed sad ,yet so FKNG angry it's not funny...And ya damned straight I'd feel pretty damned sorry for myself too if I didn't realize the reality of this situation...not to mention the horror of actually comming here and seeing this place.I don't think my reactions are too far off from as would normally be expected.How do think I feel?My father is mentally ill and I'm wondering if any part of it is genetic.That man is SUFFERING and if you were suffering the same hallucinations and delusions you yourself would be fighting them off.
Hoop Thank you I know you mean well but to be honest...Even if Richard was way out of line in comming off on me like that and others have their doubts...I do have my own mixed feelings.My Dad is mentally ill, dangerous and suffering.He really would be better off dead than living like this if this is the best the remainder of his days are gonna be.I have hope things can improve for him but stronger are my doubts.Either way innocent people need to be protected from him.

5/17/2014 11:50:53 AM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (16,449)
Counce, TN
53, joined May. 2009


Now please you guys stop warring amongst yourselves.Ive stated my peice and picking and choosing my battles.If you can't be supportive when I'm struggling to do the right thing then simply excuse yourselves respectfully from the thread.

5/17/2014 12:40:21 PM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
70, joined Sep. 2013


Hey.I am an a** when its called for.No apology here.And you can stick this thread up yours.I dont think this drama belongs here and I could give a damn about anybody's opinion. You aint a vet and all this crap has no importance to me, its not a group for the mentally ill who want to shoot guns and put others in danger to get attention, so just block me.We dont agree.Your dad is a jackass and he is taking advantage of people who love him and putting them and their lives in jeopardy including your mom...you need a reality check!



[Edited 5/17/2014 12:41:10 PM ]

5/17/2014 12:43:09 PM Pray hard pls  
just_zoe1958
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,787)
Burlington, VT
58, joined Dec. 2011


I must say that I too am disappointed at the response of some.
It is obvious that there is more going on than ptsd. There are many forms of dementia and some cause schizophrenia type behavior. Dementia patients are often frightened, no terrified, but due to limited capacity cannot express it like you and I. I honestly believe his intentions were not to hurt anyone. How would you feel if people, places, names, memories were all erased from your memory?
Do you not remember how frightened you were during the war? Can you find any compassion or empathy... at all?

It is a HORRIBLE way to die and I hope he doesn't have to suffer long.

Yes, he may no longer behave or think like the father Autumn knew but he is still her father!

Those comments were very disrespectful and I am saddened by your behavior. I think you brought more shame to the veterans than he did.

5/17/2014 1:11:15 PM Pray hard pls  
prettypeas
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (16,588)
Cadott, WI
50, joined Jul. 2010


Quote from gdaddy47:
I have to agree with D*ckie. Nam is not his problem. Flashbacks after 45 years is a bunch of crap. Yep I had my fair share of things to happen to me concerning the things I saw and did in Nam but after a few years you finally handle it. I won't go into it. The actions of your dad has nothing to do with Nam. I truly hope he gets help and is put away until he is helped. Another thing; he really doesn't need to yell "The enemy is attacking and I'm shooting them" around any combat vets because he would get his butt handed to him.

Hoople, b*tch slap me too.


Sorry, you are also WRONG. You men do not have any nurses in your family, do you?

25 years ago, Dementia and Alzheimer's were called Organic Brain Disease. And before that, it was called Senility. Yup, that's right!

Now, if your brain cells were actually dying on the inside of your head, do you think you would have any short term memory capacity for the last few minutes just before? No? Oh, ok....how about losing parts of your brain due to the build up of proteins that are killing off your memories from the last 25-40 years of your life? Yup, that's what happens. You are eventually left with memories from when you were younger and younger. There is much frustration and anger in not being able to access things and eventually it shuts down your organ auto pilot muscles.

So for Autumns father to be stuck in Nam right now in his brain, is entirely possible, because that is all that is left that has not been diseased and died off.

And they can not for sure diagnose it until you are dead and have an autopsy.




Autumn, I'm truly sorry.

It shouldn't be too much trouble to get a court hearing with a lawyer to deem him INCOMPETENT and a danger to himself AND OTHERS. Thought you already had power of Attorney?

My thoughts are with you.

5/17/2014 2:10:03 PM Pray hard pls  
whiskeyrichard1
Over 1,000 Posts (1,477)
Burlington, KY
70, joined Sep. 2013


Im not a nurse gal, but I was a combat medic in Vietnam.I know a hell of a lot about that war and Ive met dozens of fakes using it as a crutch and alibi.

5/17/2014 2:12:35 PM Pray hard pls  

newlady2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (42,595)
Goldsboro, NC
78, joined Apr. 2008


There is more than one person in this thread alone who ha d dificult things to deal with--but--but kept quiet.. it would be better

if you found a more appropiate thread to discuss his problems.. A little consideration goes a long way.

5/17/2014 3:32:15 PM Pray hard pls  

hoople65
Jacksonville, FL
52, joined Oct. 2011


Quote from whiskeyrichard1:
hoople. You are such a badass that you hide your face! REMF? Combat MEDIC 1/501ST/101ST

Kirk Douglas style???? what a tough guy! LOL Maybe YOU WILL DIE SOON TOO!


There you go. 1/16 rangers FRG
1/501st infantry 101 airborne
Technical Escort Unit Aberdeen Proving Grounds
Retired at 38
A grunt for 20 years E-7 on the 8 list. Treat(ed) women with respect even if they didn't deserve it.
Do you really want some of me stepping into you?

5/17/2014 3:53:37 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (16,449)
Counce, TN
53, joined May. 2009


Keeping quiet would lead to somebody's murder in this case but I have been fighting 4 years with the va that something has been VERY wrong.I have predicted this happening.I asked for prayer and support here.How many other families have been forced down this Rd of a "multifaceted diagnosis" He'll I had never even heard of sundowning.Its a crying fkn shame it took THIS to open ears and eyes.It could and should have been prevented.I fought to keep Daddy in hospital when they let him out n called him sane just last what...Two months ago? Hell no I won't shut up until enough people become aware enough that other families and their Veterans don't have to go through simular or worse.Lady...I'm not comming down on you.I understand fully the hush hush.Its not something to be proud of at all.But I can't let this go.Im sorry if my words seemed directed at you.Ive got a lot pent inside me that has to come out or it will manifest some other way...like hives aka "an acute stress reaction".
P EASY N ZOE thank you, Ladies.These guys acting this way they just aren't seeing the whole pic through fully aware eyes.There are instances where people fake for this or that reason as Richard spoke of.But this is anything but that.They don't have the knowlage nor experience to draw from in this parti ulnar case.If Daddy were faking or just randomly taking his frustrations out their reaction would be normal and completely justified ...except attacking me because they can't attack Dad.What he did was a horrible thing.Something inexcusable for a sane person to do.Daddy wasn't shooting because he was mad he was in his mind fighting for his life.

5/17/2014 4:08:16 PM Pray hard pls  

autumnsmile
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (16,449)
Counce, TN
53, joined May. 2009


And no Richard I will not block you for exerting your constitution right to freedom of speach.If you don't like my post then ignore them.You do have the ability to choose whether to read or not.