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1/12/2016 11:16:18 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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I just took the 2016 Presidential election quiz . Who do you side with?
www.isidewith.com


http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

my results......

85%
Ted Cruz
Ted Cruz Republican
on social, immigration, foreign policy, environmental, education, healthcare, and electoral issues.

85%
Rand Paul
Rand Paul Republican
on economic, domestic policy, immigration, foreign policy, environmental, education, healthcare, electoral, and science issues.


83%
Donald Trump
Donald Trump Republican
on immigration, foreign policy, social, environmental, education, electoral, and science issues.


83%
Ben Carson
Ben Carson Republican
on social, foreign policy, immigration, environmental, education, healthcare, and electoral issues.


i find it interesting how the results of this test for me put cruz on top when according
to the results i am closer on more issues to rand paul.
it is probly skewed to favor certain candidates. interesting none the less.



i dare you all to take the quiz and post your results....

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1/12/2016 12:02:39 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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Ben Carson; 87%

Ted Cruz; 85%

Marco Rubio 84%

Donald Trump 82%

Rand Paul; 80%




I remain 100% committed to Ted Cruz. Beyond that, in order, I support Ben Carson, Rand Paul, and Donald Trump. I can no longer trust Marco Rubio.

1/12/2016 12:05:02 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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Quote from hodag:
Ben Carson; 87%

Ted Cruz; 85%

Marco Rubio 84%

Donald Trump 82%

Rand Paul; 80%




I remain 100% committed to Ted Cruz. Beyond that, in order, I support Ben Carson, Rand Paul, and Donald Trump. I can no longer trust Marco Rubio.



i remain steadfast in the belief that ted cruz and marco rubio are ineligible to be potus.

1/12/2016 12:22:12 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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Quote from clarity101:
i remain steadfast in the belief that ted cruz and marco rubio are ineligible to be potus.




??? Ted Cruz is 100% eligible to be president. He was born to an American Citizen, and is therefore eligible. Please listen to Mark Levin on 1/6 or 1/7 for his comments. I do not know of anyone who is more versed on the US Constitution, with the possible exception of Ted Cruz.

When John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone, was a presidential candidate, this issue never came up. Reason; he was unelectable.

When GEORGE Romney, who was born in Mexico, was a presidential candidate, this issue never came up. Reason; he was unelectable.

When BHO was a candidate, questions about his citizenship were met with cries of racism. Reason; biased media.

The first seven Presidents of the United States were born outside of the USA, as were all of the founders.

1/12/2016 12:31:46 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

hodag
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http://www.marklevinshow.com/audio-rewind/


1/6/2016


Please listen to a Constitutional expert explain this.

1/12/2016 2:19:50 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

tileman1814
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Quote from hodag:
??? Ted Cruz is 100% eligible to be president. He was born to an American Citizen, and is therefore eligible. Please listen to Mark Levin on 1/6 or 1/7 for his comments. I do not know of anyone who is more versed on the US Constitution, with the possible exception of Ted Cruz.

When John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone, was a presidential candidate, this issue never came up. Reason; he was unelectable.

When GEORGE Romney, who was born in Mexico, was a presidential candidate, this issue never came up. Reason; he was unelectable.

When BHO was a candidate, questions about his citizenship were met with cries of racism. Reason; biased media.

The first seven Presidents of the United States were born outside of the USA, as were all of the founders.


You are right Bill.Mark covered it on his show last night.Cruz is 100% eligible.

My results from the quiz:
Cruz 86%
Carson 84%
Trump 83%
Paul 82%

Semper Fi !!!

1/12/2016 2:33:00 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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this is where i have lost hope with mark levin.

i do not doubt one bit that he is much better educated on the constitution than i BUT.......

neither he nor anyone else can explain to me how someone who holds dual citizenship (in teds
case he holds citizenship in 3 countries) how can he be a NATURAL BORN U S citizen???

that does not pass the test for me. common sense should tell anyone that natural born
means citizenship allegiance to ONE nation only.

there is also the question as to ted cruz's mother....
there is some evidence that she gave up her american citizenship while living in canada
before ted was born. i assume she did that to get all the freebies a socialist country
has to offer. neither she nor his father worked on behalf of the US in any capacity. his father did not become naturalized until much later in teds life.

rubios parents did not become naturalized till after he was born. the same applies to
bobby jindahl.

1/12/2016 3:28:47 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

tileman1814
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Clarity maybe this will help.It's from Breitbart News in 2 parts.

Semper Fi !!!


Part 1:
(Breitbart) – Sen. Ted Cruz is facing a host of novel “originalist” arguments indicating that he is ineligible to serve as President of the United States.

Last week, Breitbart News drained a fever swamp of speculation by publishing Cruz’s mother’s birth certificate, proving that she was born a U.S. citizen.

In addition, the Cruz campaign responded—for the first time—to questions about whether she had become a Canadian citizen while she lived in Canada, where Sen. Cruz was born in 1970. The Cruz campaign told Breitbart News that she “was never a citizen of Canada, and she could not have been under the facts or the law.”

(As a legal matter, even if she had become a Canadian citizen, that would not necessarily have meant renouncing her American citizenship, especially if she had done so after 1973, when Canada dropped such renunciation as part of its citizenship process. And even a renunciation might not have been recognized in the United States.)

Radio host, litigator and former Reagan administration official Mark R. Levin argues that the issue is clear—and has been for some time.

Nevertheless, the argument has continued.

Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump has cited liberal Harvard Law School professor Laurence Tribe, who argues that the issue is “murky and unsettled.” On Sunday and Monday, Fordham Law School professor Thomas H. Lee, who described himself to Breitbart News as a “centrist,” argued that Cruz is likely eligible, but not under the original understanding of the Constitution’s requirement that the president be a “natural born citizen.”

Both point to what they say is an irony—that an originalist interpretation of the Constitution, as they understand it, would bar Cruz from the Oval Office, while liberal interpretations would allow him to serve.

But these liberal readings of originalism, and liberal readings of the Constitution itself, are incorrect.

A correct originalist reading of the Natural Born Clause and instead compels the conclusion that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen under Article II of the Constitution, and therefore eligible.

The Natural Born Clause is part of the original text of the Constitution, officially adopted in 1789. That part of the Constitution reads, “No person except a natural born Citizen…shall be eligible to the Office of President…have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

As Breitbart News previously noted, under originalism, every provision of the Constitution is interpreted by examining: (1) the plain meaning of those words at the time they were adopted by the American people, (2) the history of that provision in terms of what the nation was discussing or grappling with at the time, and (3) the structure of the Constitution itself.

Professor Lee separates parts (1) and (2) into “originalism” and “textualism,” respectively, but that is not a distinction that most originalists themselves would make.

The same originalist methods that interpret the Second Amendment to apply to the “people” and not to a “militia” apply here, as we show below.

All three of the factors of originalist analysis above point in the same direction in this case, leading to the conclusion that conservatives should regard Cruz as a natural born citizen.

(1) Original Plain Meaning

In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Supreme Court interpreted for the first time the core meaning of the Second Amendment, examining whether it was an individual right for private citizens to keep and bear arms. Part of the left’s argument was that the amendment only protected the “right” of the people to have guns when they were serving in a militia, since the Second Amendment begins, “A well regulated militia.”

The Supreme Court noted that the Militia Act of 1792—passed by Congress a single year after the Second Amendment’s ratification in 1791—broadly invoked the “militia” as referring to the general body of able-bodied adult citizens, not to any organized military force, and therefore that the original meaning of “militia” actually supported the view that the right to bear arms belongs to all private adult citizens who are law-abiding and peaceable.

The Court has always held that laws passed by the First Congress (1789–1790), many of whose members were also part of the Constitutional Convention, and signed by President George Washington, who was also the president of the Constitutional Convention, are strong and weighty evidence about the original meaning of any similar provision in the Constitution.

1/12/2016 3:29:59 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

tileman1814
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Part 2:

As Breitbart News noted in earlier analysis, on March 26, 1790, the First Congress passed a law providing, “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.” This appears to be the only legal text from the time of the Constitution’s adoption that defines the term “natural born citizen.”

The 1790 statute explicitly designated as “natural born citizen” children born to an American mother where the father was a noncitizen. However, Lee claims that a 1790 law calling someone a “natural born citizen” and conferring citizenship at birth nonetheless did not make that person a “natural born citizen” under the Constitution for the purposes of eligibility for the presidency.

Instead, he looks to common law precedent and other sources to support his academic theory.

That is precisely the opposite of what any originalist would do. The Supreme Court inHeller did not say that the 1792 law’s definition of “militia” is somehow different from the Second Amendment’s. Instead, the Court used the statute’s definition to confirm to the Court what meaning the Framers of the Constitution were using when they adopted the Constitution. And where such contemporaneous congressional acts shed this light, courts do not conclude that Congress’s meaning is trumped by ancient English or European laws to the contrary.

This common tool of constitutional interpretation was used as recently as 2014. In Town of Greece v. Galloway, the Supreme Court reaffirmed an earlier decision holding that prayers to start official meetings do not establish a government religion in violation of the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause—even if they are sectarian prayers proclaiming the beliefs of a specific religion (such as including the name of Jesus or referencing beliefs in salvation). It noted that the First Congress had passed laws creating the office of a paid chaplain in the U.S. House and another in the U.S. Senate, who would offer public prayers every day Congress was in session, and on that basis held such prayers are not an establishment of religion under the original meaning of that term.

Similarly, here, Congress’s contemporaneous defining of the term “natural born citizen” in a 1790 statute is compelling evidence of the definition used by many of those same people when they drafted or ratified the Constitution’s Natural Born Clause only a short time earlier. It means a person was a citizen according to his or her natural birth into this world, rather than through a legal process (of immigration and naturalization) that they went through later in life.

Ted Cruz was never required to immigrate or go through a naturalization process. In the eyes of the U.S. government, he has been a citizen since his birth.

(2) History

Beyond that, as noted in our first report, the historical context in which the Constitution was drafted indicates clearly that the primary intent of the Framers was to ensure that the president of the United States—above any other citizen—would have complete loyalty to America.

That was singularly important because the president would have absolute authority over the military as commander-in-chief. As Chief Justice John Jay—the first Chief Justice of the United States, appointed by President George Washington in 1789–explained, the Founding Fathers did not want any question:

whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a … strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our National Government; and to declare expressly that the Command[er] in chief of the [A]merican army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born citizen.
The Natural Born Clause seeks to ensure that since American diplomacy and the American military are under the control of the president, that he would not have any conflicting loyalties, especially in the event of conflict. For example, if America went to war again with Great Britain (which many of the Framers considered likely), they did not want an American president who had grown up in Great Britain and might secretly sympathize with the British government and British people, and who might as a consequence not vigorously prosecute the war effort.

Cruz not only grew up in the U.S., but is fiercely loyal to it and already served it honorably in high public office.

(3) Structure

Finally, originalists compare the structure of a provision in the Constitution to other provisions with similar language. Again, in Heller, the Court held that the Bill of Rights’ use of the term “the people” in the First, Fourth, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments confirmed the Court’s reasoning that “the people” in the Second Amendment meant private citizens, not state government militias.

As noted in our first report, the language of the Natural Born Clause parallels two other constitutional provisions, one requiring that candidates for U.S. House must be (1) at least 25 years old, (2) have been a U.S. citizen for seven years, and (3) be a resident of the state that elects them at the time of their election. Similarly, U.S. senators must be (1) at least 30 years old, (2) have been a U.S. citizen for nine years, and (3) be a resident of the state that elects them at the time of their election. Together, these three provisions thus dictate those qualifications for every elected federal official.

Structurally, these three provisions are identical. They specify (1) how old you must be, (2) how long you must be an American citizen, and (3) how long you have been a resident of the United States. Under that reading, the Natural Born Clause would require that a president has been an American citizen his whole life—meaning a citizen at birth—as well as at least age 35, and a resident of anywhere in the United States for the past fourteen years, not a resident of the United States at the precise moment of his birth. It would have been easy for the Constitution to say, simply, “born in the United States.” The fact that it chose the language it did is significant.

Conclusion

All three factors an originalist considers—original plain meaning, history, and structure—point in the same direction here. A person is a natural born citizen for purposes of Article II if he was a citizen the moment he was born.

Cruz was born to an American mother, and therefore both under the laws of this nation’s founding, and also the laws in effect when he was born in 1970, he is a natural born citizen of the United States.

There may be other arguments, both legal and political. But it is important to note that an originalist argument—as opposed to originalist arguments narrowly construed by critics of originalism—does indeed provide a very strong case for Cruz’s eligibility under the Natural Born Clause.

Semper Fi !!!

1/12/2016 5:11:45 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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sorry Tman! i disagree.

common sense to me says there is no way a person should be considered 'natural born'
if they hold dual citizenship. in cruz's case he is cuban/canadian/american....
the american part holds ONLY IF his mother did not give up citizenship to US.

there is also discrepancy even in what you posted.

in the constitution phraseology denotes 'child of US citizen parents (2)', not just
one(1) US citizen parent.(that would alleviate the dual citizen question).


this all does boil down to me a lesson in life and that lesson is the we must ALWAYS
take care when making decisions, for those decisions in life that we make hastily, can
determine the path we take forever. there are ALWAYS consequences to our actions.

i hate to think that if the truth of this is not soon determined, and we elect another
ineligible person to US potus or veep that our constitution will mean nothing.

this is jmo as i understand it today

1/12/2016 5:19:52 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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even in the examples ted uses here they are a child born of 2 us citizen parents.....



In his own words: Ted Cruz on his U.S. citizenship
By Byron York (@ByronYork) • 1/8/16 10:52 PM


MASON CITY, IOWA -- Thanks to Donald Trump, the Ted Cruz birther issue emerged this week on the edges of the presidential campaign. Cruz, born in Canada to an American citizen mother and a Cuban father, is an American citizen by birth, according to U.S. law. But Trump suggested there might be a question of whether Cruz meets the constitutional requirement that the president be a "natural born citizen," and that the issue could be tied up in litigation, thus creating a problem for Republicans if Cruz were to be the party's nominee.

At a town hall in Mason City Friday morning, an audience member asked Cruz about the issue. The woman, Shawna Crabb of Ventura, Iowa, said she believes Cruz is eligible but that she just wanted to hear Cruz, a lawyer who has argued before the Supreme Court, explain it himself. Here is what Cruz said:

Sure, I'm happy to. The law is straightforward on this. Under the Constitution, in order to be president, you must be a natural born citizen. Now, U.S. law has been clear from the very first days of this country that the child of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a natural born citizen. Indeed, the very first Congress, when it passed the first laws on citizenship, defined the child of a U.S. citizen born abroad as a natural born citizen. They used exactly those words. Now mind you, many members of the first Congress were themselves Framers who had been at the constitutional convention who had used the exact same words in the Constitution.

This is an issue that has come up many times in American history. For example, many of us know John McCain was born in Panama. But he was a U.S. citizen because both of his parents were U.S. citizens. He was a citizen by birth. Likewise, George Romney, Mitt's dad, who ran for president in '68, was born in Mexico. His parents were Mormon missionaries, and yet he was a U.S. citizen by birth because his parents were citizens. And the third example, interestingly enough, is Barry Goldwater. Goldwater was born in Arizona before Arizona was a state, it was just a territory. And so he was a U.S. citizen by birth by virtue of the fact that his parents were citizens.

And so as a legal matter, the question is quite straightforward. My mother was born in Wilmington, Delaware. She is a citizen by birth, so I became an American citizen by virtue of being born to her. I have never breathed a breath of air on this planet when I was not a U.S. citizen. I've never been naturalized. It was the process of being born that made me a U.S. citizen.

Cruz went on to attribute the appearance of the question to his political opponents. But on the core issue, Cruz's fellow legal experts agree with him that being a citizen by birth is the equivalent of the Constitution's "natural born citizen." It's not clear whether his explanation will stop the questions, but Cruz has now said pretty much everything that can be said on the matter.


....however in the final analysis he ignores that fact

1/12/2016 5:51:28 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

tileman1814
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Clarity,

Well I can see we aren't going to get anywhere with this debate.I can bring more pages to dispute the pages that you could bring and so on. Whats the point? This is one that we will have to agree to disagree on. We will just have to count on our best common sense judgement when it comes time to vote.

Semper Fi !!!

1/12/2016 6:05:54 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

hodag
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Quote from tileman1814:
Clarity,

Well I can see we aren't going to get anywhere with this debate.I can bring more pages to dispute the pages that you could bring and so on. Whats the point? This is one that we will have to agree to disagree on. We will just have to count on our best common sense judgement when it comes time to vote.

Semper Fi !!!



Clarity, I respect you a lot, but I agree with Tile Man on this one. Even if Cruz was born on Pluto, (Something the liberals will possibly claim) I would still vote for the man. Ted Cruz is without question the most conservative candidate. On Conservative Review.com, Cruz is rated as the second most conservative senator, with a liberty score of 96%, second only to Mike Lee. If Mike Lee were running, the liberals would most likely suggest he was born on Jupiter to a Martian mother.

1/12/2016 6:54:56 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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oh well....
i tried.
i wont compromise tho unless someone can prove to me that our founders
intended for virtually anyone in the world could be eligible to be potus,
i will never cast my vote for any person with dual citizenship.


i wont hold it against you boys.....YET

have a great night! back to work tomorrow for a few days so ill be scarce around here.

1/14/2016 9:07:15 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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1/14/2016 9:58:50 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  
fun4unus
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As I understand the issue after reading many "interpretations" during Oblama's first campaign for POTUS, a natural born citizen is one who is born to parents who are BOTH US citizens. And if the child is born in a foreign country to these same parents, the child is considered natural born. In addition, if that same child is born on land that is considered American soil, such as armed forces bases anywhere in the world, the child is natural born as well.

The real issue I think is that if Cruz is found to be ineligible, then Oblama is also ineligible and then what? Perhaps it's politics that is defending Oblama's eligibility.

1/14/2016 10:23:44 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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Guess I'm the far right winger.

Cruz: 93%

Carson: 92%

Trump: 91%

1/14/2016 10:25:35 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

stargazzer
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With the supreme court as it is I don't even trust them to be able to get it right

1/14/2016 11:44:47 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

tileman1814
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Quote from sureshot40:
Guess I'm the far right winger.

Cruz: 93%

Carson: 92%

Trump: 91%


Damn I guess you are.I didn't think the scores could go that high.Way to go Sure.

Semper Fi !!!

1/15/2016 10:33:35 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

theindytechguy
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Sorry Clarity. You're a smart, educated, and a lovely. I not only respect you opinions, I value them. I have to go with Tileman on this one.

1/16/2016 9:47:51 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

purplerider1200
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I took it, interesting. Found out a few things about the candidates on both sides. A few things surprise me, like Trump's views on taxing capital gains. And his opinion of unions. I took the time to look at the bottom picks, (Do I need to mention those names? They make me ill) I may reform my opinions just because they have slightly similar opinions to mine. The one thing that bothers me about this election cycle, is that few will bother to educate themselves on the issues. A good many will pick based on campaign ads, which is nothing more than self serving lies that make themselves look like a good choice. I think Trump knows how preach to the choir, and inspire people to get out and vote. He's an administrator, and a manager. I trust him to put the right people in the right places. Not just pay back favors.

1/16/2016 10:04:47 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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im happy to see many of you actually taking the quiz. i think it is informative.

i keep hearing little tweaks here and there, online, on the radio talk shows, that
the donald is very progressive and he has grand ambitions, like the bo....to be king
of the world. i just dont trust him.

i just hope and pray that folks keep reading and continue to be informed on the facts
and dont take anything at face value.

1/16/2016 12:57:44 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

tileman1814
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Quote from purplerider1200:
I took it, interesting. Found out a few things about the candidates on both sides. A few things surprise me, like Trump's views on taxing capital gains. And his opinion of unions. I took the time to look at the bottom picks, (Do I need to mention those names? They make me ill) I may reform my opinions just because they have slightly similar opinions to mine. The one thing that bothers me about this election cycle, is that few will bother to educate themselves on the issues. A good many will pick based on campaign ads, which is nothing more than self serving lies that make themselves look like a good choice. I think Trump knows how preach to the choir, and inspire people to get out and vote. He's an administrator, and a manager. I trust him to put the right people in the right places. Not just pay back favors.


You are very right about people not taking the time to get themselves educated on the issues.In 08 I spent a bunch of time researching obama and then trying to get people to listen to me about the kind of a person he was and what we could expect if he got elected.Well everything I said about him has turned out to be true and worse.
I like what Trump is doing to the establishment republicans and the attention he is drawing to the liberal media and all of their one sided bullshit.
I really don't like Trump,I think he is just doing all of this political stuff to see if he can get a trophy for his fireplace mantel but if he wins the nomination I will have no choice but to vote for him.
Ted Cruz is still my first choice.

Semper Fi !!!

1/16/2016 5:31:41 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  
mr_larrybob
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Cruz is a globalist. He wants to begin fitting into the global economy and government by creating a continental economy...i.e. he wants to merge economically with Mexico and Canada...that is the primary reason he is soft on illegals in the country...specifically Mexicans.

The safest candidate, as far as economy, moral issues, military, veterans, terrorism....etc...etc...etc....on all issues, actually, is Huckabee. Unless things take a drastic turn, Huckabee wont be the candidate.


I do like Trump. He is a little too twitchy to be POTUS...in my opinion, but I have been wrong before.

I like what Trump says about the economy; i.e. NAFA, TPS, TTP, TTIP, CAFTA...etc. I do not know his views on globalization or a continental economy ( which I do not like). I like what Trump says about the military and veterans, I like what he says about ISIS, I like what he says about illegals...what about queers serving openly in our military? What about queer so called "marriage"? I like what he says about abortion...

He is very similar in 99% of his views as Huckabee; Trump just puts on a better show than Huckabee does because he has the money to do it.

Trump was a democrat who bought and paid for democrats he helped to put into office...now he has changed his mind. Changing ones mind is alright, I have done the same thing. I just hope he does not flop back over to liberal thinking.


Cruz is smart...but Cruz is a globalist. I will not vote for a globalist.

1/16/2016 9:32:00 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

purplerider1200
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Trump has good and bad points. I'd much rather see Cruz win. If I could have my choice, I like John Kasich, or Mike Huckabee. Admittedly though, I'd love to see killary in a debate with Carly Fiorino. That would be a Pay-per-view event, because I do believe the little redhead would rip killary to shreds.

1/16/2016 11:31:01 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  
mr_larrybob
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Yup.

My mother was a redhead.

1/18/2016 7:57:28 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

stargazzer
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I have had it narrowed to two for sometime now Cruz & Trump Now recently I have decided that Trump looks to be my pick.
One big deciding factor is this, I decided Cruz will just not work out well in actual governing & gridlock is all we will get. Trump will get it done.

2/3/2016 11:46:01 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

tileman1814
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Quote from clarity101:
oh well....
i tried.
i wont compromise tho unless someone can prove to me that our founders
intended for virtually anyone in the world could be eligible to be potus,
i will never cast my vote for any person with dual citizenship.


i wont hold it against you boys.....YET

have a great night! back to work tomorrow for a few days so ill be scarce around here.



Semper Fi !!!
(Daily Caller) – Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is a “natural born citizen,” according to the Illinois Board of Elections.

The state’s BOE ruled that Cruz met the citizenship criteria to appear on the state’s primary ballot.

Two state residents, William Graham and Lawrence Joyce, challenged Cruz’s eligibility with the board, claiming his name should not appear on the March 15 primary ballot because his candidacy did not comply with Article II of the U.S. Constitution.

=”No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President,” the Constitution reads. “Either shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been Fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

The board rejected the objections, The Huffington Post first reported. According to HuffPo, Joyce does not plan to appeal the decision due to lack of resources but hopes someone else will.

“The Candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth,” the board stated, saying that Cruz “did not have to take any steps or go through a naturalization process at some point after birth,” adding, “Further discussion on this issue is unnecessary.”

Graham also filed a separate challenge to Florida Sen. Marco Rubio ‘s eligibility for the presidency.

New York billionaire and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump whacked Cruz repeatedly over whether the Texas senator qualified to be on the presidential ballot for the last month and urged Cruz to go to the courts to be declared a natural born citizen.

“It’s not anything that’s going to happen, and I’m not going to be taking legal advice anytime soon from Donald Trump,” Cruz said in response to Trump’s accusations at the January 14 Republican debate.

- See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/board-elections-declares-cruz-natural-born-citizen-142228/#sthash.FL9r3rJN.dpuf

2/3/2016 1:17:35 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

stargazzer
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I think that after over 200 years the real intent of are constitution is often ignored much to often. My American history teachers would never agree to Cruz being eligble as not born on a military base. Back then that was the only exception.

2/3/2016 3:41:21 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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Quote from stargazzer:
I think that after over 200 years the real intent of are constitution is often ignored much to often. My American history teachers would never agree to Cruz being eligble as not born on a military base. Back then that was the only exception.





2/4/2016 1:22:23 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

stargazzer
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My own daughter came back from Ireland to have her first baby so that Orlaith would be a full united states citizen as for if had ben born it Ireland something would have ben missing. Now Orlaith is a Natural Born America Citizen, also of Ireland & Spain, Italy, Turkey and 5 or 6 more countrys

2/4/2016 7:45:03 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

sureshot40
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I do think there should be a clarification of "natural born" but I don't trust the politicians or the supreme court.

I really wish there were some federal issues that the people could vote on, natural born and term limits would be two great issues for the people to settle.

2/5/2016 7:39:33 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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i agree sure that i hope the day comes soon that AMERICANS can vote on those 2 issues.

the only thing that makes sense to me....
there is a significant difference in a 'natural born' AMERICAN.

and that is a child born in AMERICA or on AMERICAN held land (im not sure of the
proper terminology) such as a military base or embassy, where both parents at the time
of the childs birth are AMERICAN citizens.

2/5/2016 9:58:09 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

shawnee_b
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Trump 94%

Carson 94%

Cruz 83%

Rubio 83%

Bush 74%

2/7/2016 11:09:20 AM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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2/7/2016 3:34:45 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

hodag
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Quote from clarity101:
sorry Tman! i disagree.

common sense to me says there is no way a person should be considered 'natural born'
if they hold dual citizenship. in cruz's case he is cuban/canadian/american....
the american part holds ONLY IF his mother did not give up citizenship to US.







2/12/2016 9:29:12 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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to all the millenials.....Better figure things out before you turn America into a Socialist Country.



2/13/2016 3:49:15 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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3/19/2016 1:19:27 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

linkitty
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Where are you all standing now that the only remaining candidates are Cruz, Trump and Kasich? I think it's going to come down voting between Cruz and Trump. JMO of course.

3/19/2016 1:42:13 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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Now will "little Marco" show some class and release his delegates to vote for
Trump ? I doubt it!

3/19/2016 10:04:46 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

driver406
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Hillary leads in every poll according to Real Clear Politics.

The Republicans are trying to destroy their own nominee rather than win an election for a change.

Call me ultra-conservative because Reps nauseate me as much as Dems these days. We have rules so the people can nominate a candidate and if he isn't who the leadership wants they and try to defeat him! And then they'll blame Trump for the defeat. No wonder people are sick of the Republicans these days. Still any Republican is mildly better than a Communist.

3/19/2016 10:08:14 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

driver406
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Quote from clarity101:
to all the millenials.....Better figure things out before you turn America into a Socialist Country.



Oh McConnell will say he'll oppose it and then Bernie will call him a name and McConnell will give in completely as usual. I'll bet Obama's Supreme Court nominee gets through within a month or too. Sure McConnell said there'd be no vote but the gutless old fool ALWAYS gives in!

3/20/2016 4:33:52 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

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3/20/2016 5:36:46 PM 2016 Presidential election quiz  

clarity101
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