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"5 Awkward Truths Expose The Myth About Moderate Islam
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1/29/2016 4:20:32 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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"5 Awkward Truths Expose The Myth About Moderate Islam" By Christopher Green
One of the biggest narratives promoted by the ruling elites and the mainstream media is that most Muslims are moderate. Islam is a religion of peace they assert, and those Muslims who commit acts of terror distort and pervert the faith. They’re radical extremists who are “nothing to do with Islam.”
It’s a comforting narrative the masses who know little if anything about Islam are desperate to believe. However, when one looks a little deeper, the claim of a moderate Muslim simply doesn’t stand up to scrutiny as these five inconvenient truths prove.
1.Islam means “submission” and a Muslim is one who submits to Allah, the God of Islam. Therefore, every Muslim without exception has submitted to the will of Allah. What is the primary will of Allah? That unbelief ceases to exist until the world belongs solely to Allah as commanded in Chapter 8 verse 39 of the Quran. Allah also commands unbelievers to be either killed or subjugated in many other verses of the Quran with the most important verse for unbelievers to be aware of being Chapter 9 verse 29, “the verse of tribute.” I could list many more similar verses but you can see that such violent commands prove Allah is most definitely not a moderate, peaceful God. In fact Allah is a God of War. This begs the question: How can people who worship him be moderate?
2.The Islamic prophet Muhammad is revered by all Muslims as “the ideal man, the perfect example for all time” and God’s last prophet. So what example did he set for Muslims to emulate? Muhammad was a warlord who obeyed the commands of Allah and spread his faith by the sword. He murdered infidels and he ordered his men to rape captured infidel women. Muhammad also tortured camel thieves and then left them to die in the oppressive heat of the desert. The gory details are described here in the most authoritative accounts of Muhammad’s life, the hadith of Sahih Bukhari volume 4, book 52, number 261.
Such brutality is equivalent to atrocities carried out by the Socialist dictators Stalin, Mao and Hitler. Can people who revere Stalin, Mao or Hitler as “perfect examples” ever be described as moderate? And why does no one ask: Why do mujahideen behead their victims? As you’ve seen, it’s commanded by Allah in the Quran. But that isn’t enough. Muhammad also beheaded infidels so the mujahideen of ISIS and Al Qaeda are merely devout Muslims following his perfect example. Just as Allah is not a moderate God, Muhammad was not a moderate prophet.
3.Muslims have been waging jihad against unbelievers from all non-Islamic faiths since Muhammad started it in 622. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians and even Buddhists have all faced Islamic jihad and still are. If Islam really is a peaceful religion and most Muslims are moderate, how on earth can Islam have such a long, violent history?
The recent history of Islam also casts doubt on the “most Muslims are moderate” narrative. Since the terrible day of 9/11, Muslims have committed more than 27,600 murderous acts of Islamic jihad. No matter what atrocity is committed it will be met with indifference from the Islamic world. There has never been millions of Muslims protesting against any of these atrocities. A few brave Muslims have protested but contrast with the millions who protested – and killed people – over the cartoons mocking Muhammad in 2006 and who supported the attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris in 2015.
Moderate Muslims are doing nothing to solve “extremism” but conversely, are all too ready to cry Islamophobia should anyone dare to criticize Islam. They will also accuse people who link these murderous acts of jihad to Islam of Islamophobia and will attempt to portray Muslims as the real victims by warning of a “backlash” which never materializes.
Such a difference is revealing and proves the vast majority of Muslims do not regard violent jihad as extreme. It’s difficult to believe the “majority of Muslims oppose extremists” when so few Muslims protest against it. And when Muslims around the world protest about Palestine or cartoons, they will burn the Union Jack, the Stars and stripes, the flag of Israel, Danish and Swedish flags, and the French tricolor. When have you ever seen thousands of outraged, moderate Muslims burn Hamas, Hezbollah or ISIS flags?
You won’t because millions of Muslims in the Islamic world don’t protest against these Islamic terror groups. Inactions as well as actions speak louder than words.
4.With Islam comes the sharia, the legal system. Under sharia, women have no rights at all. A man can divorce his wife just by saying “I divorce you” three times, called “talag.” The value of the life of a woman is half that of a man. Raped women are judged to be criminals if they can’t find four male witnesses to their violation. Human rights organisation Sisters In Islam revealed that 75% of female prisoners in Pakistan are rape victims. Then there are strict proximity laws. Women aren’t allowed to be alone with a male who isn’t a relative. To see how hard life is for women under Islamic sharia, click the link below:
The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam
Life is equally hard for children. In Islamic sharia, there is no minimum age for marriage. Many non-Muslims believe the age of consent is nine due to Muhammad consummating his marriage with little Aisha when she was nine but it’s not quite correct as this Saudi marriage official explains.
Under sharia, the punishment for apostasy is death, same applies to homosexuality. Both Muslims and Non-Muslims living under sharia must not criticize Islam, Muhammad or Muslims or face imprisonment, flogging or even death.
Once again, one can quite reasonably ask: How on earth can anyone say the Islamic sharia legal code is moderate? How can Muslims who abide by sharia be moderate? How can the brutal treatment of women under sharia be moderate? Yet the majority of Muslims say they want to live under sharia.
Here’s another question: Can Islamic countries who implement sharia – Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia and so on – be considered moderate?
5.Every Friday, Muslims around the world go to their local mosque to give worship. What is the first prayer said in every mosque around the world? It’s for Muslims to defeat the infidels. Watch this video from 44.00 in to hear secularist Muslim and author Tarek Fatah explain this to Islamo-ignorant Canadian Liberal Senator Grant Mitchell.
Furthermore, Muslims curse Jews and Christians SEVENTEEN times a day in their daily prayers. How many other faiths ask this from believers and can this be considered moderate?
These are just five core aspects of Islam that clash with the narrative that it is a moderate, peaceful religion. I could include many more but I believe the ones I have outlined here clearly prove there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Therefore, it logically follows that there cannot be such a thing as a moderate Muslim and such a Muslim would be regarded as an apostate in Islamic states.
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1/29/2016 10:58:40 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The Muslim threat is very real. We are in a Cold War with Islam. Donald Trump apparently is the only candidate for president who understands this threat.
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1/29/2016 11:10:43 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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The Muslim threat is very real. We are in a Cold War with Islam. Donald Trump apparently is the only candidate for president who understands this threat.
Actually it's a hot war, it's just that we are not firing.
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1/30/2016 3:20:09 PM |
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isna_la_wica
Brantford, ON
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Actually it's a hot war, it's just that we are not firing.
But the one group in the whole mess, who are pluralistic, accepting of other Religions even Jews and Christians, accept females as equal and who are firing? The Kurds?
Are not even invited to the Geneva talks!
Mean while Obama, Trudeau and Cameron, are kissing Turk, Saudi Arabian and Iranian butts.
What a screwed up world. Liberals are backing nations that use the death penalty, to enforce Gender Apartheid! All in the name of being accepting of those who support "Honor Killings".
Wow, that is some up holding of "liberal values", eh?
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1/30/2016 4:00:48 PM |
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rufftreasure
Fairmont, MN
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The Muslim threat is very real. We are in a Cold War with Islam. Donald Trump apparently is the only candidate for president who understands this threat.
Why am I not surprised @ this
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1/30/2016 7:54:35 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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It's naïve to think Trump is the only one who understands it, but he is the only one who cannot be bought out, and is calling them out .
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1/30/2016 8:39:40 PM |
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walt_oftheearth
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.Islam means “submission” and a Muslim is one who submits to Allah, the God of Islam. Therefore, every Muslim without exception has submitted to the will of Allah. What is the primary will of Allah? That unbelief ceases to exist until the world belongs solely to Allah as commanded in Chapter 8 verse 39 of the Quran.
And there be some here in this forum that would argue that Christianity isn't that different, pointing to a Judea-Christian God who flooded the world, and threatens to torment unbelievers in everlasting fire.
The only difference being that, at present, Christians do not appear as violent as jihadist Muslims.
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1/30/2016 8:42:38 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
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All of these religions are nuts in their own special way, however Islam is pure evil in it's doctrine, and use, by countless devoted followers. While many religions have killing in their historical past, Islam has it in the future, today and tomorrow.
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1/30/2016 9:19:09 PM |
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clarence2
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The only difference being that, at present, Christians do not appear as violent as jihadist Muslims.
Western culture has benefited from the Enlightenment, and the dawn of reason and rationality as the predominant principles for ordering society, so the few Christians who would like to see death sentences for such as homosexuality or blasphemy have to be content with the smug knowledge that God will punish their enemies in the afterlife or when Jesus returns.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. (Mark 16:16)
A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths. (Revelation 9:18)
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1/31/2016 10:22:46 AM |
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isna_la_wica
Brantford, ON
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It's naïve to think Trump is the only one who understands it, but he is the only one who cannot be bought out, and is calling them out .
But he does just as much damage as the others.
On the one side we have Obama etc., claiming it is only the 1% who are active in Terror that are dangerous. This ignores Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Iran all together, who actually do the same things that ISIL do.
But on the other extreme we have Trump, who plays exactly into the hands of fanatical Muslims, and attacks their victims.
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1/31/2016 10:26:33 AM |
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aphrodisianus
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And there be some here in this forum that would argue that Christianity isn't that different, pointing to a Judea-Christian God who flooded the world, and threatens to torment unbelievers in everlasting fire.
The only difference being that, at present, Christians do not appear as violent as jihadist Muslims.
They are worse. Recent history is the Native American and Jewish holocausts inspired by Christ killer theology held by major churches until decades after millions were murdered. Christianity is wreaking havoc in third world countries capitalizing on poor, weak and ignorant innocent people.
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1/31/2016 10:29:21 AM |
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aphrodisianus
Leander, TX
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The Muslim threat is very real. We are in a Cold War with Islam. Donald Trump apparently is the only candidate for president who understands this threat.
It's basically appealing to your inherent Christian bigotry against other religion. It's got nothing to do with how to handle Muslims seeking asylum.
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2/1/2016 10:21:14 AM |
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ludlowlowell
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I am in favor of allowing a limited number of Muslims into America, if they truly are seeking asylum. The problem is, how do you tell if an asylum seeker is really an asylum seeker, or is a fifth columnist.
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2/1/2016 4:03:48 PM |
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followjesusonly
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Why am I not surprised @ this
I went to the Bernie site last night and contributed $20 big ones to his campaign. I feel the Berne.
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2/1/2016 4:11:49 PM |
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followjesusonly
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I am in favor of allowing a limited number of Muslims into America, if they truly are seeking asylum. The problem is, how do you tell if an asylum seeker is really an asylum seeker, or is a fifth columnist.
You don't. But if it ain't them, it's a Timothy McVey home grown terrorist. How are you gonna keep them out? Maybe we should try solving the problem from the other side.
No justice, no peace.
USS New Jersey bombarding Muslim Lebanese villages in 1983.
Was 9-11 without cause, as some say, or was the above picture the cause? What comes around goes around. If you live by the sword, you'll die by the sword.
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2/15/2016 9:15:46 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
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You don't. But if it ain't them, it's a Timothy McVey home grown terrorist. How are you gonna keep them out? Maybe we should try solving the problem from the other side.
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Was 9-11 without cause, as some say, or was the above picture the cause? What comes around goes around. If you live by the sword, you'll die by the sword.
You will always have a percentage of people who will reason within themselves, to be terrorist, however when you have a religion that creates, and orders it, you will have a higher percentage of people going along/
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