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3/26/2016 10:51:13 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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I have stated more than once, and here is one more time, that if Trump gets nominated, I will support him. Despite all the red flags, caution signs and doubts about his character that I have, my love for America is more powerful than my pride. I will do anything legal and moral to defeat Commie B*tch Clinton.

So here is my question.

If Cruz, or any other Republican, gets the nomination, WILL YOU SUPPORT HIM? Or will you stay home and pout, effectively giving HRC an easier pathway to the White House?

Your answers will be very interesting, and will reveal much about yourselves, as will your non-answers.




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3/26/2016 12:24:40 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

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I will vote for the nominee, so long as it is the one with the most votes by the people. I fear that in a brokered convention the establishment might select some one with lesser votes by the people or maybe some one with no votes by the people like Ryan, Romney or McCain.


I would like to change the nomination process for next time. Where every one votes on the same day in a closed primary and if no one gets 50% then there is a run off election between the top two. I want some one who elected by the people not selected by the establishment elite.

Government of the people by the people.

3/26/2016 12:45:22 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Thank you for your answer, Sure Shot, I appreciate it.

PS, If you haven't already, I think you will like the video I just linked to in the Muzzie thread. I have watched it a bunch of times, and I just can't get enough. It's a pure shot of adrenaline and testosterone. I wish THAT guy was running for president!




MOLON LABE


Hodag

3/26/2016 12:54:09 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

sureshot40
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Good video I love Charlie Daniels and all of the NRA freedoms safest place commercials. In the general election it always comes down to second amendment for me.

3/26/2016 12:54:13 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

shawnee_b
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I'll vote for the nominee whether Cruz or Trump, whomever. Every vote against hildobeast is needed so even if the establishment pulls some crap, as usual the lesser of two weevils.

3/26/2016 12:57:31 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

tileman1814
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I will vote for whom ever the GOP nominee is but like Sure if this goes to a brokered convention there is no telling who we will have to deal with.


Semper Fi !!!

3/26/2016 1:16:45 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Quote from tileman1814:
I will vote for whom ever the GOP nominee is but like Sure if this goes to a brokered convention there is no telling who we will have to deal with.


Semper Fi !!!




I agree. But I honestly believe CBC (Commie B*tch Clinton) would be the worst person imaginable. Every bit as bad as bho. It scares the hell out of me to think how our wonderful country is hanging on by a thread.



3%




Hodag

3/26/2016 1:23:03 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Quote from sureshot40:
Good video I love Charlie Daniels and all of the NRA freedoms safest place commercials. In the general election it always comes down to second amendment for me.



Same here buddy!


Messing with any part of the Bill of Rights is a declaration of war, as far as I am concerned. ESPECIALLY THE SECOND AMENDMENT. 2A is what keeps us out of the FEMA Camps and the gulags.



MOLON LABE



Hodag

3/26/2016 9:01:28 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

purplerider1200
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I'm GOP all the way. I keep hoping the FBI nails her worthless ass. Bonehead bernie keeps going despite the fact he's got no chance of getting the nomination. Somehow, I think he knows it's going to happen.

3/26/2016 9:24:07 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

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Quote from purplerider1200:
I'm GOP all the way. I keep hoping the FBI nails her worthless ass. Bonehead bernie keeps going despite the fact he's got no chance of getting the nomination. Somehow, I think he knows it's going to happen.



That's wonderful. I assume your answer then is "YES", you WILL support who ever the nominee is, to keep the worthless b*tch out?

3/26/2016 9:59:22 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

ludlowlowell
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I voted for Rubio in the primary, and could easily vote for Trump or Cruz in the general.

3/27/2016 12:42:44 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

driver406
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I'll vote for THE Donald and hope that experienced politicians can calm down his madder foolishness. Seperation of powers you know?

Cruz? I sure don't like the way he's attacking Trump. It's quite undignified. Trump probably never had dignity after his first billion. But Cruz has values that agree with mine so I'd hold my nose and vote for him.

Mitt? I'll vote Constitution Party before I vote for a liberal. He'd lose anyhow. Voted for him last time with reservations.

Kasich? Like what I hear about him and he is from a key state. Odd but no Rep has ever been elected Pres without carrying OH. I guess I could vote for him, but I don't think he could win.

Jeb? I suppose his wife supported him, but I'm not sure many others did. I think America has had enough of the Bushes. I could stomach Jeb.

The important thing is too nominate someone who can actually WIN this time. Killary will do anything to win, ANYTHING! The only one who is a rabid pitbull who's not afraid to take her on is Trump. He's got a spine, he's got balls and he doesn't care who is offended. Trump's the only one nasty enough and mean enough to beat her. Also I like the fact that he says he'll fund his own campaign so he is beholden to n one if elected.

3/27/2016 12:12:20 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
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i am not, tho i know some here might think differently, that i am in no way 100% in favor
of trump. i have said often, i will not get behind ANYONE 100% til we know all the facts
regarding who is running and who is worthy.

i know for a fact 100% today that no matter what i will NOT vote for certain contenders.

i wish i could be so sure that no matter what i will never vote for anyone who has or is
cheating on their spouse. if he will cheat on a spouse he will cheat on the country. he
or she would never be trust worthy in my book. unfortunately, except for Dr. Carson, i
could never be assured they are not cheaters. sadly, in our world of reality, there are
very few who have not or would not cheat on their spouse, which for me is the lowest moral
denominator.

having said that, i guess i would probly vote for anyone the republicans put up for us.

'cept for one other thing.....

i will NOT vote for anyone who is not a natural born citizen of these United States of
America. i will NOT vote for anyone who has dual citizenship and owes allegiance by birth
to another country besides these United States of America. we have that proof now with
bho and the evidence of where that will lead us is clear.

in such a case where cruz or rubio or anyone else who is not natural born were nominated...
i would either write in another candidate or abstain from voting.

3/27/2016 1:06:17 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Clarity,

Please be careful and critical of what you hear on the "News" media. Many in the media have the same agenda as the liberal and establishment politicians. Just because someone is famous, makes 99 Million dollars a year or is holding a microphone does not make them honest. I do not believe for one second that Ted Cruz ever cheated on Heidi. I do not believe Herman Cain cheated on his wife. Remember Clarence Thomas? They pulled the same shit on him. This is a tactic the liars use every four years in an attempt to stain the character of our candidates. These are the same liars that miraculously gave Bill Clinton a pass for his countless affairs and rapes. Remember the media saying "None of Clintons affairs are affecting his job. It's only sex!"? I remember that very well. These lying bastards will say or do anything to defeat us.

I am not saying I am always right or that I know everything. I do not. I do however have an excellent bullshit detector. I can also respect certain people in the media I am convinced are honest even though I sometimes strongly disagree with them. Honesty and opinion are two separate things. Please listen carefully and choose wisely. This will be the most crucial election of our lifetimes.


Respectfully,


Hodag

3/27/2016 1:34:33 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

sureshot40
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I do not believe the hit piece on Cruz about cheating. One of Trumps spokeswomen Katrina, use to work for Cruz and she has said the national enquirer is 100% false.

Brietbart.com said the story was brought to them months ago by a Rubio supporter but they did not believe it and did not publish it. The only evidence was a video of Cruz and a woman that works for him coming out of a restaurant. I go to lunch with my boss, I hope no one claims we are having an affair.

3/27/2016 1:54:49 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

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Quote from sureshot40:
I do not believe the hit piece on Cruz about cheating. One of Trumps spokeswomen Katrina, use to work for Cruz and she has said the national enquirer is 100% false.

Brietbart.com said the story was brought to them months ago by a Rubio supporter but they did not believe it and did not publish it. The only evidence was a video of Cruz and a woman that works for him coming out of a restaurant. I go to lunch with my boss, I hope no one claims we are having an affair.




The amount of lies out there is amazing. Some people call it "Misinformation". I'm not politically correct. They're lies. Damnable LIES!

I have my own theories, but will not broadcast them here, as they are only my theories. What I do know, 100%, is that bullshit is going on behind the scenes. More bullshit than even the most well informed among us could ever believe. So much bullshit that I find myself asking "Is this even possible, or am I going into weirdo land?", and I'm not sure where to draw that line anymore.

3/27/2016 2:17:52 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
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wow....

again i think you either misread or misunderstood my post.

i never said cruz cheated! i dont know i dont care!

i never said trump cheated! i dont know i dont care!

im very sure and believe carson never cheated but i dont know and i dont care.

i never said ANYONE cheated because i dont know and i dont care

i did say....

" i could never be assured they are not cheaters. sadly, in our world of reality, there are very few who have not or would not cheat on their spouse, which for me is the lowest moral denominator.

i guess i would probly vote for anyone the republicans put up for us.

'cept for one other thing.....

i will not get behind ANYONE 100% til we know all the facts
regarding who is running and who is worthy.

i will NOT vote for anyone who is not a natural born citizen of these United States of
America. i will NOT vote for anyone who has dual citizenship and owes allegiance by birth
to another country besides these United States of America. we have that proof now with
bho and the evidence of where that will lead us is clear.


in such a case where cruz or rubio or anyone else who is not natural born were nominated...
i would either write in another candidate or abstain from voting."


on the other hand...
youre very naive if you think cruz has not cheated on heidi! or viceversa. we know she
had a breakdown for some reason...and was stopped before committing suicide.
truth is you dont know and i dont know and i dont care that is between them. but his
daddy was a known cheater and most times the apple does not fall far from the tree.

and as i did say...
most folks, men and women have cheated unfortunately. i would bet at least 70% of the
folks cheat on spouses. just another sign of the moral decay of our world today.


personally, i dont care what the media says most of the time.

when i hear crap like that i do my own research. i dont just accept the likes of
rush, mark levin, sean, laura ingraham, none of them!

3/27/2016 3:10:40 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

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Quote from clarity101:


when i hear crap like that i do my own research. i dont just accept the likes of
rush, mark levin, sean, laura ingraham, none of them!


I don't have access to Laura, but I know who she is. I have listened to Rush, Mark and Sean for years. I respect them all, and my favorite is Levin. I believe them. Without credibility, they are nothing. The liberals get away with their lies because their supporters are flaming idiots. Levin is the most educated and intellectual of the bunch. He knows the Constitution upside down and backwards. None of them have any reason to lie.

You don't say where you get your information from, but wherever it is, apparently you believe them. I think I have just discovered the root of our disagreements.

With all respect, Clarity, someone is handing you a great big heaping pile of bullshit. I hope at some point you will see that.


Still friends?

I hope so!

3/27/2016 5:17:26 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
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Quote from hodag:
I don't have access to Laura, but I know who she is. I have listened to Rush, Mark and Sean for years. I respect them all, and my favorite is Levin. I believe them. Without credibility, they are nothing. The liberals get away with their lies because their supporters are flaming idiots. Levin is the most educated and intellectual of the bunch. He knows the Constitution upside down and backwards. None of them have any reason to lie.

You don't say where you get your information from, but wherever it is, apparently you believe them. I think I have just discovered the root of our disagreements.

With all respect, Clarity, someone is handing you a great big heaping pile of bullshit. I hope at some point you will see that.


Still friends?

I hope so!



LOL...i dont count friends 'friends' only when we agree 100% on everything.

a friend to me is friend because of love and mutual respect.

i get my info from all of the above and more...
i did not say i dont like sean, or rush or laura. rush was my favorite and opened my eyes to conservative politics early on. sean is still good, he just gets stuck and often sounds like a puppet... laura is ok, she has a few hang ups that are bothering. in fact i still listen to mark when nothing else is on.
funny thing about mark levin, i used to love him and quote him all the time, even have
and read a couple of his books. i still give him some credit.
but his 'bombastic yelling' (yes bombastic like the donald) is what turned me off most
with him. as soon as he starts that i turn him off or tune him out....he is more like
a dictator than a teacher and is very condescending. michele malkin is absolutely one
of my favorites and a few other local personalities who are not afraid of the truth.

what is it that you think i am 'believing' that you are in disagreement with besides the
fact that i believe in the constitutional description of 'natural born citizen' which
you obviously do not because of what mark levin says. he has nothing to do with my
belief of that.
i remember sitting in 9th grade civics class at FREED Jr. High School in Pueblo, Co and
learning that according to the constitution of the US that a 'natural born citizen' of
the US is one born of US citizen parents at the time of ones birth PERIOD.
i learned all the scenarios then because i was an army brat and had ALOT of friends born
in other lands and some with foreign born mothers or fathers. in fact my son in laws
mother was born to a us citizen father and a french mother in denver. she is a native
born but not natural born because her mother was not a citizen at the time of her birth.
go back and look at any civics text book from 1965-1970...back when they still taught
civics.

how can that be for most citizens but special considerations given to ted cruz or bho....NO! THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT! its called changing the rules in the middle of the
game... like the repubs are doing now with the delegate counts.

i for one will NOT just accept what 'they' say cuz 'they' know the constitution better
than me.

3/27/2016 6:16:07 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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With all respect, some of what you are saying sounds very contradictory. On one hand, you sound hostile to Mark, Rush, Sean and Laura. Now you just said you sometimes listen to them. I agree, Mark can sometimes be an a**hole to his callers, but I have been called that and much worse. I've also heard him sometimes apologize for being rude. Like Mark, I have no tolerance for gun grabbers, hypocrites, liars, abortionists, militant homosexuals, constitution haters, flag burners, illegal aliens, rapists, child molesters, racists, anti-hunters, terrorists and any other knuckle headed morons. A few people actually think I'm a halfway decent guy. Go figure!

Mark has made his case for Cruz's eligibility. Mark is way more educated on these matters than I am, and I respect him. I can't tell you the specific court case or when and where it was decided, but a court has ruled in favor of Cruz. Mark has also given an historical account of how the definition of "Natural Born" has changed over the years. Agree with it or not, that is a fact. I don't remember the dates these decisions were made, but I'm pretty sure the people that made them are no longer with us. It is also a fact the first 7(?) Presidents of the United States were not born in America.

None of what I am giving you is my opinion. It is what I have learned from who I consider to be educated, informed and reliable people. Discussing this with you in person over a pizza and a few beers would be interesting, but having Sure Shot, Tileman, Shawn and Indy as moderators would probably be a very good idea.


Blessed Easter!



Hodag

3/27/2016 7:29:59 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
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im not very good at debating really but pizza sounds amazing however, i prefer wine over
beer unless its served on ice and on a very warm day...and the company would be awesome!

i can chat here cuz i have time to think, research, gather my thoughts and such but in
person i get tongue-tied and loose my train of thought...lol


any who.............

maybe im giving mixed signals about all those commentators cuz ive learned to be more
discerning. i dont believe everything i hear, i have to have other resources, more evidence.

i believe mark believes what he is preaching but i believe him to be wrong. i dont claim
to know more than he, but what he preaches does not make sense for me. please explain...
as i have asked before, how does one who has allegiance to other countries suddenly
become 'natural born' owing allegiance to just one the country of his birth and nationality?

ted cruz was born in canada (not in any connection to a military base or hospital or company owned and operated by a us company or us military) to an 'american' mother( who some have claimed she gave up us citizenship to be a canadian and to receive all the 'benefits' of that status just as his cuban father had done)(interestingly, all those records are not accounted for...sound familiar?) when daddy cheated on mommy, mommy and baby ran back to america....i have given you all of this info already, prove it wrong rather than just relying on marks words.

ted cruz is canadian/cuban/american. his allegiance is split. the reason it does not
apply to founding fathers is because they wrote in the constitution that it would be
from that day forword....now i know you have heard or read that before...ever read the
constitution for yourself???

if you are satisfied with mark levins definition of a 'natural born citizen' then that is
completely up to you...tho i find it disappointing and sad that some who i believe to be
true patriots have such a misunderstanding of our founding document...yet cannot or will
not explain to me how one with split allegiance by birth can be natural born.

i presume that you do realize the full meaning of that....

presumably a child born anywhere in the world to one parent who is american and one a foreigner say for instance, a chinese mother and an american man give birth to a son,
born and raised in china til oh, lets say til college age they move to california,
and he goes to college and marries and has a couple babies and when hes about 40-50 he
decides to run for president of the USA.......thats ok with you???

that is not ok with me. i will never accept it. however, i do understand the progressive
purpose behind it...and the global world the progressives are pushing for.

i will not debate this with you or anyone. i will say what i believe and i stand on that
but i wont debate it further until one of you explains to me how that is ok and what our
founders intended.

BUT...........

i do remain your friend

HE IS RISEN!


3/27/2016 9:04:40 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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I don't get how being born in X,Y, or Z country means you have allegiance to that country. I don't know how old Cruz was when his mother wheeled him outta there, but he was pretty young. Probably too young to even know if he was a boy or a girl. What, 2-3 years old? If that? At that age political/geographic boarders don't mean squat! At that age he didn't know Canada from a chocolate doughnut!

Ever see a baby dressed up in a Green Bay Packers or Denver Broncos outfit? Think that kid gives two shits about who wins the game? Same concept, isn't it?

3/28/2016 8:07:13 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
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i didnt realize you are for open borders.

and youre ok with ANYONE being elected president of the USA???

there is nothing conservative about that

btw...
he was 4-5 when mommy ran home to get away from a cheating spouse who she
eventually divorced.

his cuban father had become a naturalized canadian and some have said his mom did also.
if it mattered not, why was it recommended that he disavow his canadian citizenship
just a couple of years ago???

3/28/2016 8:10:21 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
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Quote from hodag:
I don't get how being born in X,Y, or Z country means you have allegiance to that country. I don't know how old Cruz was when his mother wheeled him outta there, but he was pretty young. Probably too young to even know if he was a boy or a girl. What, 2-3 years old? If that? At that age political/geographic boarders don't mean squat! At that age he didn't know Canada from a chocolate doughnut!

Ever see a baby dressed up in a Green Bay Packers or Denver Broncos outfit? Think that kid gives two shits about who wins the game? Same concept, isn't it?



as a matter of fact i raised my kids wearing Denver Bronco gear and yelling at every game
on sunday afternoon...and guess what?

they both and also my grands are ALLLLL Denver Bronco fans to this day.

ya kinda proved my point about that allegiance thing.

3/28/2016 8:41:06 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Quote from clarity101:
i didnt realize you are for open borders.




No, I'm not for open boarders. C'mon, Clarity, That's one hell of a stretch and you know it.



Look, neither one of us is ever going to convince the other one, so I'm just going to drop it. My brain is getting ready to explode!





Hodag

3/28/2016 10:25:20 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

tileman1814
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A Pennsylvania judge has rejected an effort to kick Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz off the state primary ballot, ruling that the Texas senator’s birth outside of the United States doesn’t disqualify him from the ballot under the U.S. Constitution.

The ruling is the latest legal victory for Mr. Cruz on the eligibility question. So-called “birther” suits have been filed in other states, including New York and Illinois. The cases in those two states were dismissed on technical grounds.

Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution says a president must be a “natural born Citizen.” Mr. Cruz has been a citizen from birth because his mother was one. The question is whether his birthplace, a hospital in Calgary, makes him a “natural born citizen,” a term undefined in the Constitution and by the Supreme Court.

Unlike the suits filed against Mr. Cruz in other states, the case in Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court resulted in a ruling on the underlying constitutional question. The judge, citing various legal scholars, agreed with Mr. Cruz that he’s eligible to run.

“Having extensively reviewed all articles cited in this opinion, as well as many others, this Court holds, consistent with the common law precedent and statutory history, that a ‘natural born citizen’ includes any person who is a United States citizen from birth,” wrote Judge Dan Pellegrini in a written opinion issued after denied the petition at a hearing Thursday.

Semper Fi !!!

3/28/2016 10:33:01 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

tileman1814
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Cruz, who was born in Canada, has maintained there are no constitutional barriers that prevent him from running. And so far the challenges to his candidacy are few and far between.

So can Cruz run? He likely can, just as Obama could have even if he were born in Kenya -- which, again, he most certainly wasn’t.

Cruz — full name: Rafael Edward Cruz — was born in Calgary, Canada, in 1970. His family was living there because his father was working for the oil industry at the time. They moved when he was four. Cruz grew up in Texas and graduated from high school there, later attending Princeton University and Harvard Law School.

In 2013, the first-term senator — already considered a prospective presidential candidate — released his birth certificate, which shows his mother was born in Delaware and his father was born in Cuba. (A situation similar to Obama, whose mother was born in Kansas and father was African.)

Most legal scholars maintain that Cruz is in the clear despite his Canadian birthplace.

I can show you 50 more just like these.

Semper Fi !!!

3/28/2016 11:49:20 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Great post Mike.

Thank you.

3/28/2016 5:48:12 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
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i know, i had heard there was a judgement...

just like with bho.

i happen to disagree and i have explained over and over why i disagree and i also
believe whole heartedly that that judgement is NOT what the founders intended.

sadly, it begins to weaken the constitutionality of very many things.

the progressives are winning in nullifying our founding document.

i also believe if ted or marco are elected our nation as a constitutional republic
no longer stands.



3/28/2016 7:02:34 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Quote from clarity101:


i also believe if ted or marco are elected our nation as a constitutional republic
no longer stands.





There is no stronger defender of the Constitution of the United States than Ted Cruz.

3/28/2016 7:48:09 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

hodag
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Quote from clarity101:
i know, i had heard there was a judgement...

just like with bho.

i happen to disagree and i have explained over and over why i disagree and i also
believe whole heartedly that that judgement is NOT what the founders intended.

sadly, it begins to weaken the constitutionality of very many things.

the progressives are winning in nullifying our founding document.

i also believe if ted or marco are elected our nation as a constitutional republic
no longer stands.




One of the men in that picture is actually RUNNING AGAINST TRUMP!

And Trump is RUNNING AGAINST HIM!!!

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember a candidate endorsing his opponent.

(I just wanted to point that out.)

3/29/2016 8:58:59 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (44,884)
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008


Quote from hodag:
One of the men in that picture is actually RUNNING AGAINST TRUMP!

And Trump is RUNNING AGAINST HIM!!!

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't ever remember a candidate endorsing his opponent.

(I just wanted to point that out.)




i find it very interesting how often you manage to miss a point of a post.....

i just found it astounding how fast cruz jumped on the establishment band wagon,
since he has spent so much time disavowing them.
all of a sudden now he is 'their guy'

4/6/2016 10:22:00 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

sillylaugher61
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,155)
Murrysville, PA
55, joined Aug. 2011


I plan to work in his regional PA location starting this weekend.
I strongly suggest to people to read his book "Crippled America".
Also read "Why we Want You To Be Rich".
You should have all of your questions answered then!
I can't vote for Lyin Ted.

4/7/2016 7:20:55 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

sureshot40
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,753)
Drumright, OK
48, joined Apr. 2011


Cruz is actively and openly campaigning to be selected in a brokered convention, where he will not have the majority of votes from the people. Cruz is smooching up to the establishment in an effort to override the will of the people. If that happens I will not vote for Cruz.

4/7/2016 12:47:30 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

theindytechguy
Indianapolis, IN
57, joined Dec. 2013


Republican of course.

4/7/2016 6:46:48 PM Question for you Trumpsters  
fun4unus
Highland, MI
69, joined May. 2014


Quote from sureshot40:
Cruz is actively and openly campaigning to be selected in a brokered convention, where he will not have the majority of votes from the people. Cruz is smooching up to the establishment in an effort to override the will of the people. If that happens I will not vote for Cruz.


I agree, Cruz made a deal with the "good ole boys" club. If Trump doesn't get the nomination, the republicans can go to hell. Or I should say they WILL go to hell. They are despicable, manipulative and narcissistic not to let the people have their choice. They've done perhaps irreversible damage to Trump and are proving to the USA that they don't give a rat's a** about patriotic Americans.

BTW, Trump's accusation regarding Cruz's sexploits is true. I read today that Cruz's PAC paid $500,000 to Fiorina's PAC last summer as a bribe for her not to disclose the information she has about Cruz. He's no better than all the other a**holes who are attempting to "transform America".

Trump on the other hand, is vowing to "Transform Washington", something sorely needed and wanted which is scaring the crap out of the Republicans, and everyone else for that matter.

GO TRUMP!

4/7/2016 11:39:02 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (54,391)
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009


I'll support THE Donald and all his ego, Cruz or Kasich, but if they make me puke like McCain did I'll probably take my vote to the Constitution Party. It's not like the Republicans will carry Minnesota.

4/7/2016 11:41:02 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (54,391)
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009


Quote from sillylaugher61:
I plan to work in his regional PA location starting this weekend.
I strongly suggest to people to read his book "Crippled America".
Also read "Why we Want You To Be Rich".
You should have all of your questions answered then!
I can't vote for Lyin Ted.


I can understand that, but where does your vote go then? Can a good conservative vote for Killary or the Bern? I suppose you'd be left with the Libertarians or the Constitution Party.

4/8/2016 6:31:03 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

purplerider1200
South Bend, IN
61, joined Aug. 2011


I just don't get these polls. How in their right mind can some say if Trump/Cruz get the nomination, they'd vote for killary/sand brain instead? Are they honestly listening to them? Like that's a viable choice? Just the NY subway business should say something bad about them. I guess they just overlook the fact that in 25 years in congress, sandbrain has never written or introduced one bill? Or that in her tenure as secretary of state, she's done nothing useful except help screw up relations overseas? I don't think ether one of them is capable enough to run a lemonade stand, much less than be president.

4/8/2016 7:08:46 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

tileman1814
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,709)
Kalispell, MT
66, joined Nov. 2007


Quote from purplerider1200:
I just don't get these polls. How in their right mind can some say if Trump/Cruz get the nomination, they'd vote for killary/sand brain instead? Are they honestly listening to them? Like that's a viable choice? Just the NY subway business should say something bad about them. I guess they just overlook the fact that in 25 years in congress, sandbrain has never written or introduced one bill? Or that in her tenure as secretary of state, she's done nothing useful except help screw up relations overseas? I don't think ether one of them is capable enough to run a lemonade stand, much less than be president.


Man you got that right!!

Semper Fi !!!

4/10/2016 10:58:07 AM Question for you Trumpsters  

sillylaugher61
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,155)
Murrysville, PA
55, joined Aug. 2011


Quote from driver406:
I can understand that, but where does your vote go then? Can a good conservative vote for Killary or the Bern? I suppose you'd be left with the Libertarians or the Constitution Party.


Where I live, I have only 2 practical choices. Being Independant is not an option
here in PA. I refuse to give up my primary vote.

In Trumps new PA office, we have been swamped with Trump supporters. Some coming
as far as 80 miles to help to volunteer or to get some yard signs.
The people here are angry at both parties. America needs Trump now more than ever!



[Edited 4/10/2016 11:00:51 AM ]

4/16/2016 6:13:16 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (44,884)
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008


Littwin: What Colorado’s GOP chaos means for the RNC
Mike Littwin
April 12, 2016



Whatever else you’re tempted to say about the bizarro Colorado GOP convention — and people are still trying to explain Darryl Glenn’s shocking Senate win — you have to admit that it has done the country a great favor.

I mean, if anyone was still confused about what lies ahead for the national convention in Cleveland, a weekend of chaos in Colorado Springs should have cleared everything up.

We didn’t have riots in the streets — as Donald Trump predicts for Cleveland if things go badly for him there — but we did have Ted Cruz throwing a 34-0 delegate shutout at Trump, the kind of score we see in these parts usually only at losing Rockies games.

And that was just the beginning. The real fun came in the after-convention, when the Donald, in full-Trump mode, variously described the process and the result as “corrupt,” “dirty,” “rigged,” “crooked” and, basically, the end of democracy as we know it. Speaking to New York voters in Albany Monday night, urging them to vote, Trump said that “we found out in Colorado it’s not a democracy like we thought, and we’re not going to have a rigged election (here).”

Sad?

Or just, as Cory Gardner would Tweet, a Trumpian “temper tantrum”?

Let’s just say that Trump does have a point — if only barely. Cruz out-hustled and out-organized and out-smarted and out-inside-gamed Trump by playing according to Colorado delegate rules, which — and here’s Trump’s point — don’t have much to do with the one-person, one-vote concept. Not that Trump, even when he’s not quoting Mussolini, is necessarily anyone’s democratic ideal. And, in any case, he might have mentioned that, despite the corrupt and dirty and rigged and crooked delegate system, Trump has won 45 percent of Republican delegates — according to an NBC count — with only 37 percent of the primary vote.

In Colorado, the system may not be fair, but it’s not like ‘Nam – there are rules, and the rules were followed. But the rules did include a decision not to have a presidential preference poll at the precinct caucuses, meaning the anti-party Trumpists had little incentive to show up, meaning it would be left to the usual suspects, who predictably fell in line with Cruz and the #neverTrumpists.

Is there anyone to blame other than Trump, whose lack of organization is leaking delegates across the country and whose team at the Colorado convention had trouble even spelling the names of its would-be delegates?

You could blame state GOP chair Steve House, whose explanation for not holding a presidential poll at the caucuses is his widely-mocked fear that it would, yes, bring out too many voters. (As I may have mentioned before, we know Republicans are hot to suppress the vote, but who would have thought that included GOP voters?) But the real reason, when Republicans decided back in August to forego the poll, was almost certainly to keep the Trump voters home. The move was supposed to benefit establishment-choice Marco Rubio, who, as you might have heard, didn’t make it to Colorado.

Or you could blame Dudley Brown, the head of the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, and not only because he’s usually to blame. I got this from veteran pol Greg Brophy, who told me that it was Brown who helped kill the latest bid in the legislature for the state to return to primaries instead of caucuses — you know, like real democracy, with hundreds of thousands participating.

“Dudley was going to be a Rand Paul guy,” Brophy told me. “And he thought that if he could control the state convention, he could get Paul some delegates.”

Paul didn’t make it to Colorado either. And for Brown, things would get even worse. While he was busy forging an alliance with the Cruz people, Brown’s close ally, state Sen. Tim Neville was on his way to a Jordan-Spieth-like defeat. Neville, the odds-on favorite to win the Senate to-line slot, was clobbered by Glenn, a virtual unknown whose victory is being attributed to having given a good speech. He got 70 percent of the vote so, yeah, it must have been a really good speech — good enough to get Glenn on the GOP primary ballot, to face off against as many as four better-known candidates trying to petition their way on.

But maybe it wasn’t just the speech. It might have been that delegates who had seen the Colorado Springs Gazette editorial warning them not to vote for Neville — because he was too close to Brown — were looking for an alternative, particularly after Neville had the bright idea to make sure everyone read the editorial by using it for target practice and Tweeting out the results.

OK, it’s a Twitter world — just ask Trump — and Cory Gardner apparently can’t stay away. He came to the defense of the Colorado GOP by tweet-slamming Trump at every turn, usually with something along the lines of asking how Trump would handle Putin/ISIS/IRS if he can’t handle Colorado delegate rules. Presumably Gardner is hoping that someday Trump might notice.

Gardner has been attacking Trump for a while, starting from when he was on the campaign trail for Rubio. I remember “buffoon” coming into the conversation. And also the KKK. Gardner is now in establishment-GOP limbo — hitting Trump, doubting John Kasich, but still refusing to endorse Cruz. The establishment plan is to get to an open convention and to find someone other than Trump or Cruz. It’s the Paul Ryan fourth-ballot dream, a dream of rescue.

In real life, Ryan insists he’s not running. Cruz talks of revolt. Kasich won’t go away. Trump will probably challenge the Colorado delegation and a few others, although it’s not clear whether the challenges would come before or after the riots. And Cleveland will be the convention at which chaos would be a good day.



yeah....no protests no violence!

4/19/2016 4:48:31 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

kiki7651
Over 1,000 Posts (1,262)
Melvindale, MI
41, joined Mar. 2012


Quote from hodag:
There is no stronger defender of the Constitution of the United States than Ted Cruz.


4/20/2016 7:41:13 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

sillylaugher61
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,155)
Murrysville, PA
55, joined Aug. 2011


Quote from driver406:
I can understand that, but where does your vote go then? Can a good conservative vote for Killary or the Bern? I suppose you'd be left with the Libertarians or the Constitution Party.


I am voting for Trump and my 3 delegates that are voting Trump at the convention.
This was a very hard choice but the sooner Cruz is eliminated the sooner the party can
work on mending and to focus on beating Hillary!!!

4/25/2016 6:13:46 PM Question for you Trumpsters  

clarity101
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (44,884)
Aurora, CO
66, joined Oct. 2008




5/8/2016 11:00:19 PM Question for you Trumpsters  
rcrmike
Over 2,000 Posts (2,937)
Souderton, PA
58, joined Apr. 2009


Umm, someone IS talking about the debt. But it isn't sinking in because neither party wants anyone to bring up that sore spot. They are ALL guilty.

I'm a little late to the thread but there are some convoluted facts and opinions being tossed about. I am not going to place fault on any of our DH Conservative members. However I will take the opportunity to blame all the media AND both political parties for muddying the waters with misinformation. It's what they do. They are professionals. We Conservatives are amateurs at the game. We aren't stupid but we can be deceived by the conspiracy of the professionals.

Right up front, I will admit that I fit the OBummer Birther stereotype. Anyone have a problem with THAT issue?

Next is the Rubio birther eligibility question. It's an easy one. BOTH of Rubio's parents were Cuban Citizens when he was born in the good ole USA. Both later became Citizens, and I am pleased they did. I have no serious personal problems with Rubio except that the Constitution is MY guide. He fails the requirements.

It's a bit more convoluted when dealing with Cruz as a Natural Born Citizen. There is so much false, misleading, misinformation being manufactured from so many sides, I'm not surprised even this group has been fooled. All the court cases are in error. Just as they did with OBummer, they filed the wrong facts into court. When the wrong facts are tried in any court of law, the judge must ONLY use the information provided TO him and proven. The error was they insisted that the reason to not be eligible is because of WHERE Cruz was born! In this case, it is not an issue and the eligibility is a default judgement that he is permitted to be on the ballot. What they neglected to prove was the allegiance issue because of the STATUS of BOTH parents at the time of birth. Because the President is the Commander-in-chief of our military, our founders debated if he would hesitate in time of war for or against the nation of a child's parents. It is the only elected office that holds this requirement and 100% allegiance to the USA. I could keep going but lets move on and ask how we got in this stupid predicament.

First there was OBummer and the Dems propped him up and insisted he was vetted. The Republicans let it go without much fight. Why? The courts got it wrong because the lawyers presented the wrong case to the judges. That cannot be by accident. They aren't that stupid, but the public is! Here is the twisted part. The Republican Party PERMITTED BOTH Rubio and cruz to be on the ballot. Why? Just because OBummer got away with it??? Two and three wrongs don't make a right! Simultaneously they packed the field with 17 candidates. Why?

Here is my twisted imagination why all these impossibilities unfolded in just this manner. For argument sake, let's just say the party had their preselected nomination designed for BUSH to win the primaries. Most people thought so in the beginning, so lets make that assumption for the moment.

A little problem surfaced. This troublemaker Trump wants to campaign. They can't say no, it's unAmerican. But they don't have to let him win. Hey, it sounds like the Ron Paul scenario all over again. Let him run and have his fun.

Hmmm. What if the field is overpacked with spoilers that can't possibly win? Everyone gets a few votes and delegates, but Jeb Bush has the financing and support the others don't have. When no one reaches the magical 1237 delegates, they give it to Bush or another insider at the brokered convention.

Great idea except no one, not even myself, expected Trump to steamroll the professional insiders and last that long. The party underestimated the Trump outsider.

Back to the Cruz/Rubio birther issue. Both were expendable spoilers by the Republican Party bosses. Both got into the game because of the troublesome TeaParty and have been a pain since they got in. Let them have their fun, and then toss them out, along with Trump. So why did the party allow non-Natural Born Citizens to be on the ballot. Two of them! So BOTH could be disqualified! Either the candidates would do it or the Democrats would.

I'm painting a very incriminating picture of MY Republican Party. But wait. What the heck are the Democrats up to? Their brilliant scheme is to nominate either a known Socialist or a lifelong criminal to campaign against the likes of Jeb Bush or one of the establishment regulars. Any fool can beat either of them, never mind what the MSM has been spewing about who can beat Hillary.

The Dems can't win, no matter what. So what's the deal? The Dems had their turn. It is time for the RINO Republicans to take the helm and destroy America where OBummer left off. Before anyone crucifies me for being the bearer of bad news, think! How many elections have we endured in our lifetime? Doesn't matter who wins, the same promises keep getting made by both sides and never achieve a better future. It's a game. Both Parties need each other to take turns. Each side blames the other. Nothing improves, except for the Party bosses financial column. They run the elections and PICK the winners and losers. Without getting off topic, how come neither sued the other for the rigged voting machines the last several elections? Come on, that is just too easy NOT to prevail in court. Do I need to mention that George Soros owns the ballot machine companies AND he's funding campaigns in BOTH Parties. A child can see through this.

The conclusion is both parties are playing America for fools. The parties run the entire show. And that's exactly what it is, organized entertainment to keep us medicated, dumbed-down Americans convinced we are voting so we won't riot and start lynching people.

If the Republican Party pulls any contested convention shenanigans at the last minute, that will conclude my awful theory above. Funny how the Democrats are in the same situation between the Socialist and the criminal. Coincidence? What's the odds of it?


"It's a big club and we ain't in it!"
George Carlin
----------------------

Back to the Question for Trumpsters. Who are we gonna vote for? Trump bothered me in the wrong way in the beginning. Just what we need, another rich guy! His tone and manners were below what I expected from a supposedly intelligent businessman, but his message came from MY complaints and MY finger-pointing. Process of elimination took the others off my list without the debate entertainment.

If we had another Constitutional choice, I'd consider it. Splitting the vote with a third party is suicide. It's going to be Hillary or Trump. I know what Hillary is going to do. I may have Trump wrong, but at least he isn't likely to have an agenda to destroy our supposedly Constitutional Republic. I am praying he loves America more than I. I really don't care how unpolished his manners are. We have bigger problems than that.

5/8/2016 11:21:04 PM Question for you Trumpsters  
rcrmike
Over 2,000 Posts (2,937)
Souderton, PA
58, joined Apr. 2009


Umm, someone IS talking about the debt. But it isn't sinking in because neither party wants anyone to bring up that sore spot. They are ALL guilty.

I'm a little late to the thread but there are some convoluted facts and opinions being tossed about. I am not going to place fault on any of our DH Conservative members. However I will take the opportunity to blame all the media AND both political parties for muddying the waters with misinformation. It's what they do. They are professionals. We Conservatives are amateurs at the game. We aren't stupid but we can be deceived by the conspiracy of the professionals.

Right up front, I will admit that I fit the OBummer Birther stereotype. Anyone have a problem with THAT issue?

Next is the Rubio birther eligibility question. It's an easy one. BOTH of Rubio's parents were Cuban Citizens when he was born in the good ole USA. Both later became Citizens, and I am pleased they did. I have no serious personal problems with Rubio except that the Constitution is MY guide. He fails the requirements.

It's a bit more convoluted when dealing with Cruz as a Natural Born Citizen. There is so much false, misleading, misinformation being manufactured from so many sides, I'm not surprised even this group has been fooled. All the court cases are in error. Just as they did with OBummer, they filed the wrong facts into court. When the wrong facts are tried in any court of law, the judge must ONLY use the information provided TO him and proven. The error was they insisted that the reason to not be eligible is because of WHERE Cruz was born! In this case, it is not an issue and the eligibility is a default judgement that he is permitted to be on the ballot. What they neglected to prove was the allegiance issue because of the STATUS of BOTH parents at the time of birth. Because the President is the Commander-in-chief of our military, our founders debated if he would hesitate in time of war for or against the nation of a child's parents. It is the only elected office that holds this requirement and 100% allegiance to the USA. I could keep going but lets move on and ask how we got in this stupid predicament.

First there was OBummer and the Dems propped him up and insisted he was vetted. The Republicans let it go without much fight. Why? The courts got it wrong because the lawyers presented the wrong case to the judges. That cannot be by accident. They aren't that stupid, but the public is! Here is the twisted part. The Republican Party PERMITTED BOTH Rubio and Cruz to be on the ballot. Why? Just because OBummer got away with it??? Two and three wrongs don't make a right! Simultaneously they packed the field with 17 candidates. Why?

Here is my twisted imagination why all these impossibilities unfolded in just this manner. For argument sake, let's just say the party had their preselected nomination designed for BUSH to win the primaries. Most people thought so in the beginning, so lets make that assumption for the moment.

A little problem surfaced. This troublemaker Trump wants to campaign. They can't say no, it's unAmerican. But they don't have to let him win. Hey, it sounds like the Ron Paul scenario all over again. Let him run and have his fun. Romney and the party changed the rules just for Ron Paul.

Hmmm. What if the field is overpacked with spoilers that can't possibly win? Everyone gets a few votes and delegates, but Jeb Bush has the financing and support the others don't have. When no one reaches the magical 1237 delegates, they give it to Bush or another insider at the brokered convention.

Great idea except no one, not even myself, expected Trump to steamroll the professional insiders and last that long. The party underestimated the Trump outsider and the American People. Why wouldn't they? They haven't listened to us yet.

Back to the Cruz/Rubio birther issue. Both were expendable spoilers by the Republican Party bosses. Both got into the Senate because of the troublesome TeaParty and have been a pain since they got in. Let them have their fun, and then toss them out, along with Trump. So why did the party allow non-Natural Born Citizens to be on the ballot. Two of them! So BOTH could be disqualified! Either the other candidates would do it or the Democrats would.

5/8/2016 11:24:18 PM Question for you Trumpsters  
rcrmike
Over 2,000 Posts (2,937)
Souderton, PA
58, joined Apr. 2009


I'm painting a very incriminating picture of MY Republican Party. But wait. What the heck are the Democrats up to? Their brilliant scheme is to nominate either a known Socialist or a lifelong criminal to campaign against the likes of Jeb Bush or one of the establishment regulars. Any fool can beat either of them, never mind what the MSM has been spewing about who can beat Hillary.

The Dems can't win, no matter what. So what's the deal? The Dems had their turn. It is time for the RINO Republicans to take the helm and destroy America where OBummer left off. Before anyone crucifies me for being the bearer of bad news, think! How many elections have we endured in our lifetime? Doesn't matter who wins, the same promises keep getting made by both sides and never achieve a better future. It's a game. Both Parties need each other to take turns. Each side blames the other. Nothing improves, except for the Party bosses financial column. They run the elections and PICK the winners and losers. Without getting off topic, how come neither sued the other for the rigged voting machines the last several elections? Come on, that is just too easy NOT to prevail in court. Do I need to mention that George Soros owns the ballot machine companies AND he's funding campaigns in BOTH Parties. A child can see through this.

The conclusion is both parties are playing America for fools. The parties run the entire show. And that's exactly what it is, organized entertainment to keep us medicated, dumbed-down Americans convinced we are voting so we won't riot and start lynching people.

If the Republican Party pulls any contested convention shenanigans at the last minute, that will conclude my awful theory above. Funny how the Democrats are in the same situation between the Socialist and the criminal. Coincidence? What's the odds of it?


"It's a big club and we ain't in it!"
George Carlin
----------------------

Back to the Question for Trumpsters. Who are we gonna vote for? Trump rubbed me in the wrong way in the beginning. Just what we need, another rich guy! His tone and manners were below what I expected from a supposedly intelligent businessman, but his message came from MY complaints and MY finger-pointing. Process of elimination took the others off my list without the debate entertainment. Trump is voicing OUR issues.

If we had another Constitutional choice, I'd consider it. Splitting the vote with a third party is suicide. It's going to be Hillary or Trump. I know what Hillary is going to do. I may have Trump wrong, but at least he isn't likely to have an agenda to destroy our supposedly Constitutional Republic. I am praying he loves America more than I. I really don't care how unpolished his manners are. We have bigger problems than that.