1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack

6/27/2016 8:26:07 AM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 66, joined Nov. 2007	These people need to be discharged from public service forever.They talk about rights that should be put in place but they don't talk about who is going to pays for these new rights. We need to have a full scale revolution to put a stop to this bullshit. Semper Fi !!! Hillary Clinton and other leaders in her party always talk about how they want to grant new rights to Americans. They talk about the "right to affordable health care," the "right to a college education," the "right to a livable wage." But at the same time, many of these same Democrats have been agitating to restrict or outright repeal existing rights enshrined in the Constitution's Bill of Rights. In just the past few months, in fact, members of the Democratic party have targeted the 1st, 2nd and 5th Amendments for attack. Here are the details, in reverse order: Denying Due Process Last week, House Democrats staged a sit in to demand a vote on a gun control bill that would have denied anyone on the government's "no fly" list the right to buy a gun. The problem is that someone can make it on the list "no fly" based on the flimsiest of evidence, mere suspicion, or for no apparent reason at all. As a result, denying everyone on this list the right to buy a gun would risk denying them due process, a protection guaranteed by the 5th Amendment, which says among other things that no one can "be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Even the gun-control-supporting ACLU game out against such bills for that reason, saying that the watch list is "error-prone and unreliable" and that it would "place individuals on blacklists without a meaningful process to correct government error and clear their names." Liberal reporter Glenn Greenwald was even more emphatic. "In the lexicon of the leading liberal lights of the Democratic Party, someone deemed by the U.S. government to be suspicious -- placed in secret on a list, with no evidence presented and no court process -- is the equivalent of 'ISIS.' And to demand due process be accorded is to arm ISIS." It's not as though the Democrats staging the sit in didn't understand this. In fact, they were protesting because the House leadership would only bring up a bill that included due process protections. Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.V., complained that "due process is what's killing us right now" when it comes to denying gun purchases to people suspected of having ties to terrorism. Torching the 2nd Amendment When not trying to limit 5th Amendment protections in their zeal for gun control, Democrats are increasingly calling not just for restrictions on purchases for would-be terrorists or bans on "assault rifles," but to scrap the 2nd Amendment entirely. "The Second Amendment needs some changing, because Americans don't agree with it and we've had it," Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., declared last week. After Gabby Giffords was shot, liberal talk show host Bill Maher said that the Democratic party should "come out against the 2nd Amendment." Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., responded, "I sure wish they would." Retired liberal justice John Paul Stevens wrote on op-ed saying the 2nd Amendment should itself be amended, so that the right to own guns only would apply to those who are actively serving in a militia. Targeting Free Speech Incredibly, the Democrats' disdain for the Bill of Rights includes even the 1st Amendment's protection of free speech. Party leaders are openly pushing to limit free speech rights when it conflicts with their own viewpoints. In a speech at an Iowa community college, for example, Hillary Clinton said: "We need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all, even if that takes a constitutional amendment." Left unsaid is that the only way to do what she suggests would be to put restrictions on the 1st Amendment. A couple years ago, 54 Senate Democrats voted for a new constitutional amendment that would do just that. Meanwhile, a YouGov poll taken last May found that a majority of Democrats said they support government limits on what they consider to be "hate speech." Only 26% of Democrats said they opposed such limits. In California, Democrats pushed a state bill that would have criminalized speech that questions the "consensus" on climate change. And Attorney General Loretta Lynch told the Senate Judiciary Committee in March that she has discussed with her colleagues the possibility of pursuing civil actions against "climate change deniers." Democrats have long expressed frustration, if not outright contempt, for the Constitution whenever it hinders their ability to enact some new government program. President Obama has repeatedly complained about the "messy" process the Constitution's co-equal branches created, and has several times acted as though the Constitution's limits on the president's authority simply don't apply to him. But the fact that a major U.S. political party -- which still considers itself mainstream -- is now willing to specifically target amendments designed to protect Americans from tyrannical government control is alarming, to say the least. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
6/27/2016 3:21:52 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 48, joined Apr. 2011	Libs hate due process, free speech and freedom to own a gun. There are reports that their are 800,000 to 1million people on the terrorist watch list and no fly list some are babies and toddlers, many don't even know their on this secret list. Being able to take away some ones rights for something they" MIGHT DO" really makes it a privilege not a right. If this was to pass you can bet that the list would grow dramatically, most likely they would start with veteran, republicans, patriots and members of the NRA.
6/27/2016 4:20:12 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
hodag Grise Fiord, NU 64, joined Nov. 2007	Quote from sureshot40: If this was to pass you can bet that the list would grow dramatically, most likely they would start with veteran, republicans, patriots and members of the NRA. The roster of NRA members is confidential. NRA Benefactor Member Hodag
6/27/2016 4:29:00 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 48, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from hodag: The roster of NRA members is confidential. NRA Benefactor Member Hodag The U.S. mail delivers my American rifleman magazine, so I bet the U.S. government knows.
6/27/2016 4:50:15 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
hodag Grise Fiord, NU 64, joined Nov. 2007	Quote from sureshot40: The U.S. mail delivers my American rifleman magazine, so I bet the U.S. government knows. I'm pretty sure the U. S. Postal Service does not keep a record of who gets what mailings. Compiling such a list would take a while. NRA publications are also available on line. Discovering that list would also take some time. Some members elect not to receive any mailings at all, so any list would not be complete. And then, there are "Stand Your Ground" hotheads like me, who know our Constitutional rights, and are more than willing to tell the federal goons to f**k off. Collectively, we are known as the 3 Percenters.
6/27/2016 5:03:20 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
rcrmike Souderton, PA 58, joined Apr. 2009	Quote from hodag: I'm pretty sure the U. S. Postal Service does not keep a record of who gets what mailings. Compiling such a list would take a while. NRA publications are also available on line. Discovering that list would also take some time. Some members elect not to receive any mailings at all, so any list would not be complete. And then, there are "Stand Your Ground" hotheads like me, who know our Constitutional rights, and are more than willing to tell the federal goons to f**k off. Collectively, we are known as the 3 Percenters. Sorry, but the USPS takes a photo of every piece of mail that goes through their system. They might not read the mail, but they do keep digital records of the sender and recipient. They know who we associate, what news we subscribe to, and how many items we receive. I want to know WHO thought this was a good idea. Something we would expect from only KGB types. Welcome to the USSA of the New Amerika! Do we have any proof they can't also view our email contact list and personal photos, that is safe and secure on the "cloud"? just wondering???
6/27/2016 5:31:15 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
hodag Grise Fiord, NU 64, joined Nov. 2007	Quote from rcrmike: Sorry, but the USPS takes a photo of every piece of mail that goes through their system. They might not read the mail, but they do keep digital records of the sender and recipient. They know who we associate, what news we subscribe to, and how many items we receive. I want to know WHO thought this was a good idea. Something we would expect from only KGB types. Welcome to the USSA of the New Amerika! Do we have any proof they can't also view our email contact list and personal photos, that is safe and secure on the "cloud"? just wondering??? Guess I shouldn't be surprised. Your information has always been reliable, Mike. I respect you. John McCain, the honorable POW but pathetic Senator, recently said he thinks the U.S. Government should have the right to invade your house, without a warrant, and inspect your computer, under the guise of "fighting terrorism". Those dark storm clouds of revolution are almost directly overhead now. I can't believe the American People will stand for much more of this bullshit.
6/27/2016 5:59:16 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 48, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from hodag: I'm pretty sure the U. S. Postal Service does not keep a record of who gets what mailings. Compiling such a list would take a while. NRA publications are also available on line. Discovering that list would also take some time. Some members elect not to receive any mailings at all, so any list would not be complete. And then, there are "Stand Your Ground" hotheads like me, who know our Constitutional rights, and are more than willing to tell the federal goons to f**k off. Collectively, we are known as the 3 Percenters. The NRA does make it easy with bar code tracking and membership number on the mailing label. I know people that won't be a member because of this.
6/27/2016 6:02:51 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
clarity101 Aurora, CO 66, joined Oct. 2008	howdy mike!!! sometimes i forget this is a 'dating' site untill i get reminders like hodags new pic, the reappearance occasionally of mike and the tman and sureshot.... and all the other republicans and conservatives who show up here from time to time... this is for all of you!!!!
6/27/2016 6:25:59 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
rcrmike Souderton, PA 58, joined Apr. 2009	Quote from clarity101: howdy mike!!! sometimes i forget this is a 'dating' site untill i get reminders like hodags new pic, the reappearance occasionally of mike and the tman and sureshot.... and all the other republicans and conservatives who show up here from time to time... this is for all of you!!!! Howdy right back at ya! Here's how I see it. Dating is about friendship. I get to hang out with a few of my closest friends right here. If a few women on this site wish to date, they better read our threads. Our discussions are more informative than any dinner or drink dating interrogation could ever reveal. Truth be told, if a few of my past "dates" would have been approved or disapproved by this fine group of friends, ... I could have avoided alot of headaches. "Dates come and go, but friendships last forever".
6/27/2016 6:29:00 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
clarity101 Aurora, CO 66, joined Oct. 2008	Quote from rcrmike: Howdy right back at ya! Here's how I see it. Dating is about friendship. I get to hang out with a few of my closest friends right here. If a few women on this site wish to date, they better read our threads. Our discussions are more informative than any dinner or drink dating interrogation could ever reveal. Truth be told, if a few of my past "dates" would have been approved or disapproved by this fine group of friends, ... I could have avoided alot of headaches. "Dates come and go, but friendships last forever". its so true mike! i dont even bother answering any of the messages i do get on occasion. i tell them to actually read my profile and then read some of my posts and get back to me. lol......
6/27/2016 6:54:07 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
rcrmike Souderton, PA 58, joined Apr. 2009	Same here. I came across one particular woman a couple years ago. Her profile was rather direct and to the point, "If you don't support the Second Amendment, GO AWAY"! Bingo! How could I resist an attractive trait like that? She has no tolerance for Liberals. Best date I could have hoped for. We've been close friends ever since.
6/27/2016 7:36:00 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
clarity101 Aurora, CO 66, joined Oct. 2008	is that it??? close friends? nothing more? i have gotten no where near that so sad.
6/27/2016 8:17:40 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
driver406 Saint Paul, MN 65, joined Oct. 2009	That's because you live in Colorado and I'm in the Peoples Republic of Minnesota. It's just too far for a date!
6/27/2016 8:57:03 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
hodag Grise Fiord, NU 64, joined Nov. 2007	Quote from rcrmike: Same here. I came across one particular woman a couple years ago. Her profile was rather direct and to the point, "If you don't support the Second Amendment, GO AWAY"! Bingo! How could I resist an attractive trait like that? She has no tolerance for Liberals. Best date I could have hoped for. We've been close friends ever since. Does she have any like-minded sisters?
6/28/2016 10:16:55 AM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
clarity101 Aurora, CO 66, joined Oct. 2008	Quote from driver406: That's because you live in Colorado and I'm in the Peoples Republic of Minnesota. It's just too far for a date! i do have a brother who lives near the twin cities and my 2 younger sisters are heading there this weekend for a visit
6/28/2016 2:24:48 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
rcrmike Souderton, PA 58, joined Apr. 2009	Quote from clarity101: is that it??? close friends? nothing more? i have gotten no where near that so sad. Well, since we are all friends here... We live in the same state, but just far enough apart to make practical dating inconvenient. We email, text, and talk regularly and we make time to do stuff a couple times a year, as we have several common interests. I guess truthful profile content is helpful after all. And to make things more interesting. Sometime later, I accidentally found her brother while doing some Conservative homework on the web. He's a State Rep and he's looking to be a senator next. The good news is, he's one of us. He gets it! Isn't that the strangest coincidence? I have hope we will be able to turn this Country around. My advice is that, "We are who we hang around with". I have no time for Liberal, Socialist, NWO agenda Commies! One needs to appeciate the difference between a Republic and a Democracy. They ARE NOT the same!
6/28/2016 3:20:49 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 48, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from rcrmike: My advice is that, "We are who we hang around with". I have no time for Liberal, Socialist, NWO agenda Commies! One needs to appeciate the difference between a Republic and a Democracy. They ARE NOT the same! This reminds me of a couple saying my grandpa used, "if you run with a wolf, you'll howl like a wolf" and "maggots hang out together".
6/28/2016 6:40:13 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
hodag Grise Fiord, NU 64, joined Nov. 2007	Quote from rcrmike: Well, since we are all friends here... We live in the same state, but just far enough apart to make practical dating inconvenient. We email, text, and talk regularly and we make time to do stuff a couple times a year, as we have several common interests. I guess truthful profile content is helpful after all. And to make things more interesting. Sometime later, I accidentally found her brother while doing some Conservative homework on the web. He's a State Rep and he's looking to be a senator next. The good news is, he's one of us. He gets it! Isn't that the strangest coincidence? I have hope we will be able to turn this Country around. My advice is that, "We are who we hang around with". I have no time for Liberal, Socialist, NWO agenda Commies! One needs to appeciate the difference between a Republic and a Democracy. They ARE NOT the same! Congratulations Mike! It sounds like you found a real keeper. My best wishes to both of you! Bill
6/28/2016 7:28:02 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
clarity101 Aurora, CO 66, joined Oct. 2008	that is awesome mike that you have someone you can communicate about the real world with and not just the make believe world. it is a beginning. and just goes to show ya what a truly small world it really is that you would 'hookup' with someone with similar interests and outlook and possible eventual goals. i just love happy endings!!! lol happy endings can lead to happier new beginnings
6/28/2016 10:55:57 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
driver406 Saint Paul, MN 65, joined Oct. 2009	That God, clarity! This state needs all the conservatives we can attract!
6/29/2016 10:21:27 AM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
theindytechguy Indianapolis, IN 57, joined Dec. 2013	Thanks Tileman. You always have good information. Want you to know I appreciate you.
6/29/2016 11:12:07 AM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
rcrmike Souderton, PA 58, joined Apr. 2009	Tileman, here are a few reasons we can expect the Liberal, Socialist, Commies to do what they do. "Never allow a crisis to go to waste". 1.) These insecure animals "think" they have the supreme authority to control everyone's life. They are smarter than us and are compelled to protect us from ourselves. 2.) It's either THAT, or they just wish to rule the World! Look at most proposed legislation. Much of it DOES align with the international NWO conspiracy rumors. Next, we need to ask WHY no one within OUR government is concerned that international financiers are funding OUR elections? I am not well versed in statistical analysis, but I think my untrusting opinions can be justified by those much wiser than I. We have a Constitution. Why isn't anyone honoring what it proclaims? Yes, we have been usurped by conspiring enemies. Those enemies NEED to have us disarmed before they can ultimately conquer us. Make no mistake, we have been thoroughly infiltrated and surrounded on all sides. We just haven't admitted it yet. No one has drawn weapons yet, because WE have more than the infiltraitors. At least for now. However, can we agree that THEY are getting much more desperate lately? That's MY opinion. I could be mistaken. Your mileage may vary!
6/29/2016 7:17:29 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
tileman1814 Kalispell, MT 66, joined Nov. 2007	Quote from rcrmike: Tileman, here are a few reasons we can expect the Liberal, Socialist, Commies to do what they do. "Never allow a crisis to go to waste". 1.) These insecure animals "think" they have the supreme authority to control everyone's life. They are smarter than us and are compelled to protect us from ourselves. 2.) It's either THAT, or they just wish to rule the World! Look at most proposed legislation. Much of it DOES align with the international NWO conspiracy rumors. Next, we need to ask WHY no one within OUR government is concerned that international financiers are funding OUR elections? I am not well versed in statistical analysis, but I think my untrusting opinions can be justified by those much wiser than I. We have a Constitution. Why isn't anyone honoring what it proclaims? Yes, we have been usurped by conspiring enemies. Those enemies NEED to have us disarmed before they can ultimately conquer us. Make no mistake, we have been thoroughly infiltrated and surrounded on all sides. We just haven't admitted it yet. No one has drawn weapons yet, because WE have more than the infiltraitors. At least for now. However, can we agree that THEY are getting much more desperate lately? That's MY opinion. I could be mistaken. Your mileage may vary! Mike I think you are right on both accounts.Right now we are at a point that something is going to have to give.Our country has become a pressure cooker with a plugged valve. Semper Fi !!!
6/30/2016 2:48:10 PM	1st,2nd And 5th Amendments Under Attack
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 48, joined Apr. 2011	It looks like that back stabbing Paul Ryan will allow a vote next week on some kind of gun control that takes away peoples second amendment right that are on this secret no fly list.

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