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7/2/2016 10:33:21 AM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Yup the concept and teachings of "evolution" are bogus.

Please remember adaptation is NOT evolution.

My question to you is what do you believe regarding this topic?

I was going to do a thread on socks and how they piss me off. Do they run away , are they kidnapped ...

Anyway I think this thread would be more thought provoking.

We will deal with the sock scandal later.



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7/2/2016 4:45:13 PM Evolution is bogus.  

3n1wbgirl
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I'm just saying

7/2/2016 4:48:55 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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My opinion differs from yours. I am a firm believer in the process of evolution.



7/2/2016 4:56:16 PM Evolution is bogus.  

uber_goober
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And your socks have neither run away nor been socknapped. They lurk patiently behind the dryer and under the bed so as to gather dust bunnies therefore increasing in mass until they are large enough to kill you when you least expect the attack.

7/2/2016 6:43:32 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from uber_goober:
My opinion differs from yours. I am a firm believer in the process of evolution.



Thanks for your input. I will look into the sock scandal later.

Could you please explain your position of process?

7/3/2016 7:50:37 AM Evolution is bogus.  
rainydaze48
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I'm evolving everyday...
in hopes that someday I'll become my full potential.



[Edited 7/3/2016 7:51:11 AM ]

7/3/2016 7:55:44 AM Evolution is bogus.  

kissingbanditto
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I disagree as well, Blake. Technology alone is a prime example of evolution and adaptation both . . look at the last 25 years.

7/3/2016 8:08:47 AM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from kissingbanditto:
I disagree as well, Blake. Technology alone is a prime example of evolution and adaptation both . . look at the last 25 years.


You are correct concerning technology . It has evolved.

I am referring to aquatic life , insects, animals, plants, and humans.

We are what we are.

Our creations evolve but not which has already been created .

We can only create from that which was created.

And that which was created cannot evolve. It is what it is.

7/4/2016 5:28:17 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Cheers to the future, mismatched socks & sock puppets when nothing else is as entertaining.

7/4/2016 5:39:33 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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I have yet to see anyone provide credible evidence that evolution exist.

Why?

Because it doesn't exist.

7/5/2016 6:36:08 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from blake6972:
Thanks for your input. I will look into the sock scandal later.

Could you please explain your position of process?


I think of evolution as a process. Measurable and quantifiable. I can not for the life of me understand the resistance to its logic and its existence. But perhaps that's neither here nor there I suppose.

One need only examine life forms with short life spans. The different traits that develop over the duration of a few generations of fruit flies. The fact that we cannot beat the common cold. The hospital superbugs that have survived the antibiotics created and thrown at them. These tiny survivors whose molecular differences from their dead brethren(and sistern ) in turn reproduce, allowing them to carry on their inherited advantageous mutations to subsequent generations. And all visible through a stereoscope or microscope or magnifying glass as the case may be.

As to larger and more long-lived organisms, centuries of scientific journals across diverse nations and the fossil records that redefine, all the while refining, the lineages of plant, animal and even microbial life through such long spans of time, all convince me of the practicality and beauty and existence of evolution.

Evolution does fly in the face of the dogmata of many if not most religious teachings as handed down through the ages. I can sort of understand the resistance to the thought that humans are descendants of apes. And I agree with it. The fossil record bears it out plainly. Ape and human instead descended from a common ancestor, branching off in multiple turns over the course of many, many, many years.

Being an atheist, I'm unable to look at the world through the prism of any god's religion. Your GOD's nor anyone else's. It just doesn't work for me by inclination nor the result of later study in high school and college. My bachelor degree was in zoology. A field that I have never worked in as an adult but has never stopped fascinating me. I wish I could explain my view as well as some of my professors in genetics and vertebrate anatomy did in class. Too much time has gone by and I can't put it into words nearly as well. Nor as convincingly.

Your intellectual and philosophical position on the matter has been stated several times before and I intend to honor it and you with my attention in your response in this forum should you chose to make it again. This however has been my first real response on this occasionally raised issue in the threads. I also intend it to be my last. Not that it is not a noteworthy topic. But rather that it is a non-issue for me. Neither of us is likely to convince the other of all the merits of our respective positions. May it not be a bone(fossilized or otherwized ) of contention between us.

Good evening sir...

7/5/2016 8:30:34 PM Evolution is bogus.  

wiscomatic50
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Does this mean Santa & The Easter Bunny are too..

7/5/2016 10:27:13 PM Evolution is bogus.  
Zelda88
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If we evolved from monkeys, there would be no more monkeys.

7/5/2016 10:50:30 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Zelda welcome back

7/5/2016 10:51:52 PM Evolution is bogus.  
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You know her?



BRB-I need my dictionary to read Goobs post.

7/5/2016 10:53:01 PM Evolution is bogus.  

bigdubs67
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English to Spanish?

7/5/2016 10:59:01 PM Evolution is bogus.  
esty1
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Si



That was a good, non confrontational and "don't care what you think" post,Goobs.

7/6/2016 6:03:14 AM Evolution is bogus.  
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Quote from 3n1wbgirl:
I'm just saying

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7/6/2016 7:35:16 AM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from uber_goober:
I think of evolution as a process. Measurable and quantifiable. I can not for the life of me understand the resistance to its logic and its existence. But perhaps that's neither here nor there I suppose.

One need only examine life forms with short life spans. The different traits that develop over the duration of a few generations of fruit flies. The fact that we cannot beat the common cold. The hospital superbugs that have survived the antibiotics created and thrown at them. These tiny survivors whose molecular differences from their dead brethren(and sistern ) in turn reproduce, allowing them to carry on their inherited advantageous mutations to subsequent generations. And all visible through a stereoscope or microscope or magnifying glass as the case may be.

As to larger and more long-lived organisms, centuries of scientific journals across diverse nations and the fossil records that redefine, all the while refining, the lineages of plant, animal and even microbial life through such long spans of time, all convince me of the practicality and beauty and existence of evolution.

Evolution does fly in the face of the dogmata of many if not most religious teachings as handed down through the ages. I can sort of understand the resistance to the thought that humans are descendants of apes. And I agree with it. The fossil record bears it out plainly. Ape and human instead descended from a common ancestor, branching off in multiple turns over the course of many, many, many years.

Being an atheist, I'm unable to look at the world through the prism of any god's religion. Your GOD's nor anyone else's. It just doesn't work for me by inclination nor the result of later study in high school and college. My bachelor degree was in zoology. A field that I have never worked in as an adult but has never stopped fascinating me. I wish I could explain my view as well as some of my professors in genetics and vertebrate anatomy did in class. Too much time has gone by and I can't put it into words nearly as well. Nor as convincingly.

Your intellectual and philosophical position on the matter has been stated several times before and I intend to honor it and you with my attention in your response in this forum should you chose to make it again. This however has been my first real response on this occasionally raised issue in the threads. I also intend it to be my last. Not that it is not a noteworthy topic. But rather that it is a non-issue for me. Neither of us is likely to convince the other of all the merits of our respective positions. May it not be a bone(fossilized or otherwized ) of contention between us.

Good evening sir...


Very good post Goob, very respectful and eloquently stated

ETA Esty & Dubs



[Edited 7/6/2016 7:35:55 AM ]

7/7/2016 7:10:02 PM Evolution is bogus.  

bigdubs67
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Ity

7/8/2016 9:04:54 AM Evolution is bogus.  
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In the last 100 years they observed some animals changing their look,habits,genetic code etc to be more viable...does that not give credibility to the theory of evolution?

7/8/2016 9:09:04 AM Evolution is bogus.  

kissingbanditto
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While it's great to ponder, is the human race big enough to change or modify it? Nope!!

7/8/2016 11:51:47 PM Evolution is bogus.  

joey1331
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caveman or what some call early human or pre-human and they were dumb but then one day they ate some magic friut and became smart. Wtf? Just like adam and eve. They too were dumb until they ate some freaky fruit. So they evoled into something else. They are forever changed for eating that friut. Their minds recieved an enhancement. Yep.

7/9/2016 6:46:35 AM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from avgjoe0266:
In the last 100 years they observed some animals changing their look,habits,genetic code etc to be more viable...does that not give credibility to the theory of evolution?


My answer would obviously be no.

As far as "they" that you speak of , I am not sure who "they" are, but animals do not change their looks.
Well maybe if they put on some make up and got a furs and or hair cut.

Habits are just habits nothing to do with evolution.

One can put their car keys in the same place and then "change" where they use to put them. Thus changing their habit ,not evolving.

Genetic code is another topic in and of itself but does not give credibility to evolution.

That which is created is that which was created.

Nothing has changed in that which was created in the last 100 years nor prior. Humans are still humans, apes are still apes, monkeys are still monkeys, cows are still cows, horses are still horses ect...

Evolution is a false theory where one can hide myths and mysteries.

7/9/2016 3:21:55 PM Evolution is bogus.  

zenpaxamoris
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I think that it is fine to have personal beliefs and it is also fine to support them...But I don't see why it is necessary to basically say if others do not agree with your beliefs that they are wrong.
I personally think it would be nicer if people with different belief systems could coexist peacefully instead of having threads created which seem to be created in order to incite arguments and discord.

Very simply stated, Evolution is just the gradual development of a simple form to a more complex one.

So, from a biological standpoint Life started out about 4 billion years ago as very primitive Prokaryotic archaea (which have no cell nucleus or membrane bound organelles in the cells)
About 3.5 billion years ago photosynthesis became a way for cells to use sunlight to produce energy. Oxygen was a side product of photosynthesis...This lead up to a mass buildup of oxygen in the atmosphere, making the environment habitable for all kinds of new life forms that use oxygen to respire.
Over time cells gradually changed (evolved) and developed a true nucleus which contained the cells "instructions" this is DNA which is contained in the form of chromosomes. And cells with this are called Eukaryotes. These organisms developed (evolved) from single cells to muti-celled organisms...Including plants, fungi and animals...including Homo sapiens, sapiens -Humans.

Now this is a extremely stripped down explanation (and has more than a couple errors as I got my BS in Biology way back in 1992) so, I apologize for any mistakes..But basically I am just attempting to show that evolution is a very, very gradual change of an extremely simple form of life which leads to the gradual development of more complex forms. Starting with a single cell.

7/9/2016 3:26:16 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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I believe in God and evolution.

7/9/2016 3:51:25 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from zenpaxamoris:
I think that it is fine to have personal beliefs and it is also fine to support them...But I don't see why it is necessary to basically say if others do not agree with your beliefs that they are wrong.
I personally think it would be nicer if people with different belief systems could coexist peacefully instead of having threads created which seem to be created in order to incite arguments and discord.

Very simply stated, Evolution is just the gradual development of a simple form to a more complex one.

So, from a biological standpoint Life started out about 4 billion years ago as very primitive Prokaryotic archaea (which have no cell nucleus or membrane bound organelles in the cells)
About 3.5 billion years ago photosynthesis became a way for cells to use sunlight to produce energy. Oxygen was a side product of photosynthesis...This lead up to a mass buildup of oxygen in the atmosphere, making the environment habitable for all kinds of new life forms that use oxygen to respire.
Over time cells gradually changed (evolved) and developed a true nucleus which contained the cells "instructions" this is DNA which is contained in the form of chromosomes. And cells with this are called Eukaryotes. These organisms developed (evolved) from single cells to muti-celled organisms...Including plants, fungi and animals...including Homo sapiens, sapiens -Humans.

Now this is a extremely stripped down explanation (and has more than a couple errors as I got my BS in Biology way back in 1992) so, I apologize for any mistakes..But basically I am just attempting to show that evolution is a very, very gradual change of an extremely simple form of life which leads to the gradual development of more complex forms. Starting with a single cell.


This thread was not started to create to incite arguments nor discord.
It is funny how people who don't agree with me are the ones who actually argue and create strife.

This thread has been very civil so why would you say what you said?

4 billion years you say?
Seriously???

How did you come up with 4 billion years?

There is no transitional fossil record.
Which by the way would and should be overwhelming without a doubt regarding the theory of evolution if it exists.

And I am not talking about "change" or "mutations", that is not evolution.

Creations are what they are , they do not evolve much less gradually .

Life was created and has stayed in its same form from the beginning.

Cells and viruses contain no organs nor any emotional state due to no mind. Any change or mutation is just that but not evolution.

The theory of evolution is a hoax a falsehood.

Next to "surely thou shalt not die" lays the falsehood of evolution.



[Edited 7/9/2016 3:52:23 PM ]

7/9/2016 5:23:18 PM Evolution is bogus.  
avgjoe0266
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Quote from blake6972:
My answer would obviously be no.

As far as "they" that you speak of , I am not sure who "they" are, but animals do not change their looks.
Well maybe if they put on some make up and got a furs and or hair cut..


Researchers have observed cheetahs ,some birds and zebras slowly changing their patterns over the years.
Coyotes and orcas are now classified into different groups that have different habits and sizes.True evolution takes a long time to happen....but it is happening

7/9/2016 5:31:53 PM Evolution is bogus.  
avgjoe0266
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How do you explain the fossils from apes to humans?
I do agree there are some gaps but one can definitely see how this could prove that man evolved

7/9/2016 5:59:53 PM Evolution is bogus.  

zenpaxamoris
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The very title of this thread is a bit derogatory is it not?. It isn't "Let's discuss the theory of evolution. It is argumentative from the get go...

This quote is via Earthsky.org backing up the time frame for the start of life of Earth: I just copied the first part to show I didn't just make up a random time for the start of life...

"Geochemists have found evidence that life likely existed on Earth at least 4.1 billion years ago — 300 million years earlier than previous research suggested. The discovery indicates that life may have begun shortly after the planet formed 4.54 billion years ago.

The research is published October 19 in the online edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Mark Harrison is co-author of the research and a professor of geochemistry at UCLA. Harrison said:

Life on Earth may have started almost instantaneously. With the right ingredients, life seems to form very quickly.

The new research suggests that life existed prior to the massive bombardment of the inner solar system that formed the moon’s large craters 3.9 billion years ago."

here is a tiny bit more:

The researchers studied more than 10,000 zircons originally formed from molten rocks, or magmas, from Western Australia. Zircons are heavy, durable minerals related to the synthetic cubic zirconium used for imitation diamonds. They capture and preserve their immediate environment, meaning they can serve as time capsules.



[Edited 7/9/2016 6:01:08 PM ]

7/9/2016 8:55:36 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from avgjoe0266:
Researchers have observed cheetahs ,some birds and zebras slowly changing their patterns over the years.
Coyotes and orcas are now classified into different groups that have different habits and sizes.True evolution takes a long time to happen....but it is happening


Patterns? Not evolution.
Different groups and habits? Not evolution. More like adaptation.

True evolution ? Takes a long time?
Nope , falsehoods can being created in a nanosecond Such as "evolution".

7/9/2016 9:19:45 PM Evolution is bogus.  
avgjoe0266
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yes I agree some of that is now adaptation but over time many adaptations become evolution .Man has evolved over thousands of years. We have smaller brains ,jaws ,our strength has diminished and our look has changed,etc....

7/10/2016 12:56:10 AM Evolution is bogus.  

zenpaxamoris
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Blake, I would like to ask how old you believe the earth is (currently), and how long ago life began on this planet. Do you believe that there has been any kind of, if not evolution then change or development of any species (animal or plant) over the years or do think that all species were created during only those 6 days of creation?...How far back did this take place? On a slightly different subject, Do you also believe that all living species (including dinosaurs) and humans co-existed of Earth, and if so, were there two each kind of dino taken upon on the ark? I am honestly not trying to be mean or confrontational here. I really, honestly want to try to see this from a Christian/biblical point of view.
Also, When Noah and his family found land after the 40 days and nights of rain, and let all the animals go to "be fruitful, multiply and replenish the Earth"...How did Noah's son's- Shem, Ham and Japheth find women to have children with, since I believe everyone else was drowned during the flood...I know there is mention of their wives' names in Jewish texts like Jubilees in from "little Gensis" but those are not accepted as cannon by the Christian Church.


Sorry to ask so much at one...looking forward to hearing your answers. Thanks!

7/10/2016 6:36:49 PM Evolution is bogus.  

zenpaxamoris
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No answer yet? I was honestly looking forward to hearing your response to my earlier query Blake...

7/10/2016 8:30:30 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from zenpaxamoris:
No answer yet? I was honestly looking forward to hearing your response to my earlier query Blake...


I did not forget you my friend.
As you probably know , I am a Creationist. And very concise with my responses to question(s).

That being said, I could write books involving all the great questions you have presented.

I believe the Genesis account of the beginning of the world and life , which would include plants, insects, aquatic, birds, animals, and human beings (which were created in the image of God).

Also , the planets, stars ect...

This being DH I shall only go so deep with my studies and beliefs .

No one knows the exact age of the Earth (the original heaven before sin took over) but you can surmise a close age of time ,which would be 6,000 some years.

Many have mocked me over the decades due to my belief , but I will not waiver.

I am steadfast in my beliefs.

I shall answer all questions you present when I am able.



[Edited 7/10/2016 8:32:51 PM ]

7/11/2016 1:16:09 PM Evolution is bogus.  

zenpaxamoris
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In Genesis it is said that creation took 6 days, and God rested on the 7th, which eventually lead to the idea of having a Sabbath day for both rest and worship.

Some Creationists are flexible on the actual length of a "day" meaning it possibly could have been much longer than a standard 24 period we call a day (and night) now.

Do you think that the creation of the universe only took about what we call a week now? or do you think the authors of the bible use a week to help tell a story and so people (most who were illiterate and not educated) in a way they could better understand such a big concept?

7/11/2016 6:44:01 PM Evolution is bogus.  
avgjoe0266
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No real issue with people believing what they want to...it doesn't hurt anybody to believe,but it's hard to argue with fossils and carbon dating that are far older then 6k yrs

7/11/2016 6:46:26 PM Evolution is bogus.  

3n1wbgirl
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Joe

7/13/2016 8:16:18 AM Evolution is bogus.  
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7/13/2016 4:40:47 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from avgjoe0266:
No real issue with people believing what they want to...it doesn't hurt anybody to believe,but it's hard to argue with fossils and carbon dating that are far older then 6k yrs


Carbon dating is not a accurate form of time measurement and there is no transitional fossil records.

7/13/2016 5:48:12 PM Evolution is bogus.  
avgjoe0266
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Most agree carbon dating is great out 5000 yrs...some say 50000 but I'll stick with 5000 just for the sake of arguement

7/14/2016 5:13:19 PM Evolution is bogus.  

zenpaxamoris
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While I can agree that carbon dating is not an exact science, and the age of tested organisms (fossils etc.) may therefore, vary, I think it can still offer support that the Earth and the things that once resided on it are quite old.

Let's look at coal as it is the most abundant of the fossil fuels. It comes from immense amounts of vegetation that grew, died and was then compressed in layers, in part forming peat. Over time this peat was buried and under immense pressure from the many layers on top of it and time it eventually became coal. Currently, it is believed that most coal formed about 300 million years ago, although some may be as old ans 400 million years old. But coal formation is an ongoing process and there are coal beds that are only about 1 million years old...But even making a huge allowance for dating to be off, even by a few million years, I think it is still quite a bit older than thousands of years.

The creationists I have read on line age the Earth at about 10,000 years.

One thing I have a bit of an problem is also; If all animals reproduced from a single pair post ark, they would be almost all genetically identical. Also causing quite a few problems due to inbreeding. One problem cheetahs are having is genetic viability. almost all cheetahs are just too genetically similar now and sadly, it spells eventual doom for them as a species. Another example is purebred dogs. Many exhibit multiple health issues due to a limited gene pool. And that is with many thousands of breeding pairs.



[Edited 7/14/2016 5:13:56 PM ]

7/14/2016 6:16:42 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from esty1:
You know her?



BRB-I need my dictionary to read Goobs post.



Can you post results in cliff note thread

7/30/2016 10:29:04 PM Evolution is bogus.  

joe_grappler
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Blake, and anyone else who is a creationist,

I don't really expect to change your minds here, because they are probably pretty made up. But you made comments that you accept the idea of adaptation. As in a species can change, but it still stays that same species. But the examples of this are relatively short term. Do you not see how after millions of years, this slow shifting of traits could lead to a totally new species?

7/31/2016 6:01:50 PM Evolution is bogus.  

frecklefarmer
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Evolution is a proven fact
Proven beyond the shadow of a doubt

Education is key to knowledge

Knowledge says we have proof

You merely have to educate yourself on the subject
Other than just what the Bible says
Then you too will have knowledge of the proof of evolution
And that proof is furthered on a regular basis

My question is
How can an educated person not see the simple facts of evolution

No disrespect meant to anyone
Just stating a proven fact

7/31/2016 7:00:38 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from frecklefarmer:
Evolution is a proven fact
Proven beyond the shadow of a doubt

Education is key to knowledge

Knowledge says we have proof

You merely have to educate yourself on the subject
Other than just what the Bible says
Then you too will have knowledge of the proof of evolution
And that proof is furthered on a regular basis

My question is
How can an educated person not see the simple facts of evolution

No disrespect meant to anyone
Just stating a proven fact


No evolution IS NOT A PROVEN FACT.

Muchless beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I am highly educated and there are no simple facts regarding evolution whatsoever.

NONE.

That is a FACT.

Evolution IS NOT a proven fact.
Absolutely NOT.

Evolution is a falsehood, a lie, a mask that distorts and hides the truth and creates confusion and robs from the Glory of God The Creator.

It takes more faith to believe a lie (s) then it does the truth.

7/31/2016 8:03:05 PM Evolution is bogus.  

frecklefarmer
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Blake
The DNA you are so proud of proves beyond a doubt that evolution happened

I don't know what you are educated in my friend
But it's surely not anthropology

7/31/2016 9:02:31 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from frecklefarmer:
Blake
The DNA you are so proud of proves beyond a doubt that evolution happened

I don't know what you are educated in my friend
But it's surely not anthropology


Sorry friend no it doesn't.
Biology and geology muchless archaeology does back up the truth.

8/1/2016 8:26:09 AM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from frecklefarmer:
Blake
The DNA you are so proud of proves beyond a doubt that evolution happened

I don't know what you are educated in my friend
But it's surely not anthropology


Freck, you should know by now you might as well beat your head on the wall rather than debate such subjects with Blake. You'll never get anything such as proven research or evidence from him other than statements that because he said so it's FACT (with of course caps to emphasize) regardless of evidence you present.

8/1/2016 4:32:52 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Quote from itybit:
Freck, you should know by now you might as well beat your head on the wall rather than debate such subjects with Blake. You'll never get anything such as proven research or evidence from him other than statements that because he said so it's FACT (with of course caps to emphasize) regardless of evidence you present.


Oh I apologize ity that I don't "cut N paste" others views.

I post what I know from living, and experience.

As well as applying simple logic and common sense, something that you know nothing about.

Oh , I read it on the internet, so it must be true...

Hey ity, stop letting others do your thinking for you.

Google is NOT your friend.

Then you can stop banging your head.

Truth... Absorb it...



[Edited 8/1/2016 4:34:05 PM ]

8/2/2016 8:22:02 AM Evolution is bogus.  

itybit
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Quote from blake6972:
Oh I apologize ity that I don't "cut N paste" others views.

I post what I know from living, and experience.

As well as applying simple logic and common sense, something that you know nothing about.

Oh , I read it on the internet, so it must be true...

Hey ity, stop letting others do your thinking for you.

Google is NOT your friend.

Then you can stop banging your head.

Truth... Absorb it...


Typical



8/2/2016 8:52:04 AM Evolution is bogus.  

frecklefarmer
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Quote from blake6972:

Biology and geology muchless archaeology does back up the truth.


I know it itty

But I got him!

As you see in the quote
He just admitted i was right

He just gets bored and likes to argue
Even when he knows he's wrong

And it was just proven

8/2/2016 12:53:31 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from frecklefarmer:
I know it itty

But I got him!

As you see in the quote
He just admitted i was right

He just gets bored and likes to argue
Even when he knows he's wrong

And it was just proven


Actually I don't like to argue such as yourself.

And no you didn't "get me".

I did not admit you were right, so not your resorting to lies.

I do not know I am wrong concerning the topic.

And NO nothing was proven on your part.

You make for a good liberal.

8/2/2016 12:55:41 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from itybit:
Typical




You look good in that picture ity.

What is dumb is your falsehoods that make your foundation .

8/2/2016 1:59:38 PM Evolution is bogus.  

frecklefarmer
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Quote from blake6972:
Actually I don't like to argue such as yourself

You make for a good liberal.


You can't argue with those such as myself because we are not close minded folks that won't open their eyes and see reality as it really is

As for being a liberal.
In some ways you are correct.
A friend shattered her toe on my porch.
I gave her every dime in my pocket,because along with weeks off work from 2 jobs,she also has shitty insurance.

I'm sure you think helping friends truly in need is wrong,
So therefore my independent political views (because I'm not a sheep that will vote in a system that has solidly been proven corrupt)
Matter not at all to a close minded so far to the right wing Republicans that you're out there all by yourself.

Open your eyes and your mind without tripping on acid


Blake
I'm not trying to be a d*ck
But you are sure making hard not be

8/2/2016 2:02:30 PM Evolution is bogus.  

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Who truly gives a f**k..

8/2/2016 3:56:52 PM Evolution is bogus.  

itybit
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Quote from blake6972:
You look good in that picture ity.

What is dumb is your falsehoods that make your foundation .


Again typical resorting to insults

What is funny Blake is not once did I say a word about evolution or creationism, my only comment was about how useless it is to post in one of these threads of yours

8/2/2016 4:17:21 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from itybit:
Again typical resorting to insults

What is funny Blake is not once did I say a word about evolution or creationism, my only comment was about how useless it is to post in one of these threads of yours


Yet you keep posting in them.

Tell me ity , do you believe in evolution?

8/2/2016 7:27:50 PM Evolution is bogus.  

blake6972
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Quote from frecklefarmer:
You can't argue with those such as myself because we are not close minded folks that won't open their eyes and see reality as it really is

As for being a liberal.
In some ways you are correct.
A friend shattered her toe on my porch.
I gave her every dime in my pocket,because along with weeks off work from 2 jobs,she also has shitty insurance.

I'm sure you think helping friends truly in need is wrong,
So therefore my independent political views (because I'm not a sheep that will vote in a system that has solidly been proven corrupt)
Matter not at all to a close minded so far to the right wing Republicans that you're out there all by yourself.

Open your eyes and your mind without tripping on acid


Blake
I'm not trying to be a d*ck
But you are sure making hard not be


I am not making anything hard as far as your response goes.

Who is this "we" you speak of?

Who is closed minded and why?

Who are these sheep you speak of?

Did you know I am an independant?

You say I probably think helping out a friend in need is wrong?
Do you realize how silly that statement is?

I have given thousands upon thousands to charities and help build several orphanages and houses for those in need.

And don't come at me with the open mind BS.

If you knew my past believe me you wouldn't go there.

I serve those in need , children, veterans , and the elderly .
And my neighbors and my friends.

It is a blessing to give.

Maybe it is you Mickey who needs to peel the scales upon your eyes so you can see the light before you.

The ones who complain about me , are the ones they are complaining about.

Irony, another cruel beast.


Reality can have an unusual way when it is instituted .

I am not a diamond in the rough, but rather a pearl.

And it has taken decades to get me where I am. Therefore I shall not let anyone rob me of my trials and triumphs.

They are what shape me .

Lots of blood shed, lots of tears ,lots of destruction and despair.

Such is life.

Hello reality.

Bottom line , I like you Mickey.
Keep on keepin' on brother.



FYI, do not let the ways of the world wrap you up in a web of deceit.

PS: next time you tell someone you love them, tell them why.

Double cheers