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9/5/2016 12:44:08 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  

joetville
Over 1,000 Posts (1,787)
Titusville, FL
39, joined Oct. 2013


1. True- there are ways of a parent is on top of it
2. False- too much information/good and bad at easy access
3. Other


The shaping of our youth, at home, in school, their devices, their friends and daily surroundings influences kids to be the way they are. I see that children have become too exposed and I fear that to be the multiplying of world chaos.

Most kids understand good morals and many do not. Kids have way too much power as well. They don't listen, don't clean up after themselves, and are disrespectful to their parents and others. Try to discipline them verbally and it doesn't work. Discipline them physically, no matter how just, the kids threaten to call child services. And there you have it--chaotic future.

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9/5/2016 12:59:35 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  
korbyn
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (30,971)
Bat Cave, NC
98, joined Jun. 2013


People have been saying thing since they built the pyramids.

9/5/2016 3:55:37 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,757)
Tampa, FL
59, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from joetville:
The shaping of our youth, at home, in school, their devices, their friends and daily surroundings influences kids to be the way they are. I see that children have become too exposed and I fear that to be the multiplying of world chaos.

Most kids understand good morals and many do not. Kids have way too much power as well. They don't listen, don't clean up after themselves, and are disrespectful to their parents and others. Try to discipline them verbally and it doesn't work. Discipline them physically, no matter how just, the kids threaten to call child services. And there you have it--chaotic future.


You need to watch a few episodes of Supernanny. It's never the kids. It's always the parents who suck. Those sucky parents think just like you do. And Supernanny would never ever ever hit a child.

Keeping your child "innocent" as long as possible is not the goal of a quality parent.

9/5/2016 4:51:35 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  

driver406
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (54,860)
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009


Probably not a good idea even if you could. The world is pretty f**ked up and kids need to be aware of it and learn how to deal with it rather than being sheltered, especially girls. Seems like teenage girls are so naïve they believe any bit of asinine drivel some stud hands them (Especially I Love You)and it leads to heartbreak, date rape and worse. Kids need to be prepared to meet the realities of modern life so they can make it in an adult world at the proper time.

9/5/2016 4:56:58 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  

testsignup
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,990)
Springfield, VA
63, joined Sep. 2009


YEah, yer full of it, OP. At least your opening post is. Especially the part where you fantasize that all or even a significant number of children hire a lawyer and sue their parents whenever they are chastised in any way.

Come on, get back to reality.

I remember very well, what it was like being a kid. "Innocence" was invariably the cause of my suffering huge embarrassment and abuse by the rest of the planet. So if you go the "keep them innocent" route, you would qualify as an abusive or incompetent parent in my book.

Children learn CONSTANTLY. Not just when you hit them. And they learn COMPREHENSIBLY, not just the tiny part of life that you think you are putting across during a stern lecture.

Punishment leads only to learning how to avoid punishment. Not how to deal with problems or temptations.

Small example: when I was little, my dad told me to clean my room once. After I thought I was done, he came in to "inspect," and declared that I'd get a swat for every toy or piece of clothing he found out of place. He proceeded to search high and low, counting as he went, until the room was neater than I've ever seen it, and then he pounded me.

What I learned from that, was certainly not how to clean a room. He never taught me what that even meant. What I did learn, was don't talk to dad about anything, because he might invent a new reason to hit you. That's all I COULD learn.

By the way, you can learn a ton about disciplining children, by watching the grownups. When there's a law against speeding, do the grownups carefully study the posted limits and road designs, and then drive at the posted speeds? Not hardly. they drive at the posted speed WHENEVER THERE'S A COP CAR AROUND. Other than that, they drive like nut cases, and honk and flash their lights at anyone foolish enough to try to obey the law.

9/5/2016 5:47:11 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  

lightbrownie1
Johnston, IA
48, joined Feb. 2016


Im a mother of four with three adults.
There are much more influence than back in my day growing up, phones, internet etc.
However, its the parents fault if they allow it.
You can control your kids phones, or dont allow them to have it.
You can control what they watch on tv.
Now what you can't completly control is peer preasure.
Nor the things that happen in their schools.
But i say, when you are in your childs life, talking to them, spending time with them and not leaving them at home all the time, you will have better influence that your child will at most do the right thing when peer preasure hits.

9/5/2016 6:01:07 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  

miss_trsh1
Over 2,000 Posts (2,851)
Mount Pleasant, MI
48, joined Sep. 2014


amen

9/5/2016 6:19:48 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  
amusicluvr
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (23,676)
Salem, OR
64, joined Nov. 2013


Who the f**k is stupid enough to want their kids to be "innocent"?

Teach them reality, and let them deal with it.

As for cleaning up, etc, MY kids always did / do.

Discipline works. Do it right, and no one can do anything about it. When the little brats misbehave, throw away their favorite toy, video game, clothing, or whatever. If they call the cops, or child services, etc, you have a receipt to prove that YOU bought the damned thing, so it is YOURS to do with as you wish. The fact that you let the kid borrow it in occasion does not remove your ownership right to it. When the kid no longer has any cool clothes, toys, etc, and everyone in school knows it-because you tell them-the brat will behave better, or go possessionless to a reform school.

9/5/2016 8:30:16 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  
rubyrose2015
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,530)
Seagrove, NC
98, joined Sep. 2015


Quote from joetville:
The shaping of our youth, at home, in school, their devices, their friends and daily surroundings influences kids to be the way they are. I see that children have become too exposed and I fear that to be the multiplying of world chaos.

Most kids understand good morals and many do not. Kids have way too much power as well. They don't listen, don't clean up after themselves, and are disrespectful to their parents and others. Try to discipline them verbally and it doesn't work. Discipline them physically, no matter how just, the kids threaten to call child services. And there you have it--chaotic future.


I see you have No Kids. If you take the time to actually teach your kids good manners and respect, then they will follow that venue. It is Not necessary to hit kids. That is Not Discipline that is called assault. Hit an adult and you will go to jail. You can put kids in time-out, and yes that does work.

9/5/2016 10:51:33 PM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  

mizzangeleyezo4
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (72,905)
Tujunga, CA
40, joined Jan. 2013


It can be done

9/6/2016 12:08:41 AM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  
wildheart722
Over 2,000 Posts (2,184)
Ponchatoula, LA
44, joined Feb. 2015


Quit blaming your parents for your failures OP!

9/6/2016 3:07:01 AM It's still possible to keep your kids innocent as long as possible  

jason_in_tx
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,965)
Bryan, TX
33, joined Apr. 2013


Quote from joetville:
The shaping of our youth, at home, in school, their devices, their friends and daily surroundings influences kids to be the way they are. I see that children have become too exposed and I fear that to be the multiplying of world chaos.

Most kids understand good morals and many do not. Kids have way too much power as well. They don't listen, don't clean up after themselves, and are disrespectful to their parents and others. Try to discipline them verbally and it doesn't work. Discipline them physically, no matter how just, the kids threaten to call child services. And there you have it--chaotic future.


You are completely full of shit.