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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If God is a great God of love, why did He create some strains of peoples to be wonderful and beautiful, and some strains of peoples to be inferior and degenerate?
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1/19/2017 1:43:34 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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The body of man is evolved from the animal and the animal from the fish and the fish from lower and lower forms of life and is imperfect and man having freewill can choose to resist spirit promptings as you do and corrupt himself.
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1/19/2017 1:44:58 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Because Native Americans were not pasty pale like Europeans.
Oops... Sorry, my bad.... I am not knowledgeable about alien urantians degeneration.
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1/19/2017 2:00:14 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Cupocheer, you aren't rationally knowledgeable about anything that I see and this post of yours exemplifies it.
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1/19/2017 2:24:43 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I think Cupocheer DOES understand the Urantia Book---she understands it for what it is, a racist book on a level with Mein Kempf.
KB, why don't you throw that racist eugenicist Urantia Book in the garbage and find something else to believe in, something that teaches the equality of the races?
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1/19/2017 3:20:30 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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If God is a great God of love, why did He create some strains of peoples to be wonderful and beautiful, and some strains of peoples to be inferior and degenerate?
Only God knows why He does what He does. Why don't you ask your "utter idiot" the pope?
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1/19/2017 3:21:42 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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*
Cupocheer posted her swan song a few days ago. She's not even supposed to be here anymore. She said she was moving on.
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1/19/2017 4:33:12 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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I think Cupocheer DOES understand the Urantia Book---she understands it for what it is, a racist book on a level with Mein Kempf.
You are a pitifully ignorant man.
KB, why don't you throw that racist eugenicist Urantia Book in the garbage and find something else to believe in, something that teaches the equality of the races?
The Urantia Book teaches the spiritual equality of all men.
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1/19/2017 4:44:08 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The Urantia Book teaches the spiritual equality of all men.
Could you provide a quote from the Urantia Book to that effect?
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1/19/2017 5:00:42 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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133:0.3 (1468.3) One day while resting at lunch, about halfway to Tarentum, Ganid asked Jesus a direct question as to what he thought of India’s caste system. Said Jesus: “Though human beings differ in many ways, the one from another, before God and in the spiritual world all mortals stand on an equal footing. There are only two groups of mortals in the eyes of God: those who desire to do his will and those who do not. As the universe looks upon an inhabited world, it likewise discerns two great classes: those who know God and those who do not. Those who cannot know God are reckoned among the animals of any given realm. Mankind can appropriately be divided into many classes in accordance with differing qualifications, as they may be viewed physically, mentally, socially, vocationally, or morally, but as these different classes of mortals appear before the judgment bar of God, they stand on an equal footing; God is truly no respecter of persons. Although you cannot escape the recognition of differential human abilities and endowments in matters intellectual, social, and moral, you should make no such distinctions in the spiritual brotherhood of men when assembled for worship in the presence of God.”
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1/19/2017 5:10:43 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Could you provide a quote from the Urantia Book to that effect?
Absolutely. Kb just did.
I think there are others but I can't find them right now.
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1/20/2017 4:50:11 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Nice quote from the Urantia Book. Apparently the Urantia Book contradicts itself because in other parts of it it speaks of inferior and degenerate strains of peoples.
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1/20/2017 5:03:04 PM |
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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Nice quote from the Urantia Book. Apparently the Urantia Book contradicts itself because in other parts of it it speaks of inferior and degenerate strains of peoples.
it contradicts itself every time you turn the page.
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1/20/2017 5:45:37 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Quote from looptex1:
it contradicts itself every time you turn the page.
Clearly you are not much of a Christian and you don't value truth or love God or you wouldn't lie so much. Support your statement or admit you are lying. But either way I'm not going to hold my breath. What the hell is the matter with you "Christians" that you think nothing of lying?
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1/20/2017 5:48:50 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
The Church ordered heretics tortued and burned at the stake precisely because the heretics opposed the Church's message of love and peace.
Clearly you are a moral and spiritual degenerate to think the way you do, Ludlow.
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1/20/2017 6:28:03 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I have been attending Mass for 46 years now. I've heard sermon after sermon about Jesus and His love, peace, and goodness. I have yet to hear one single solitary sermon calling for the return of the Inquisition.
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1/20/2017 6:35:57 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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That's irrelevant and doesn't change the fact that you are clearly morally and spiritually insane/degenerate to think the way you do.
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1/20/2017 7:43:58 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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It's very relevant, in fact it's the most relevant thing in the universe.
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1/20/2017 10:15:18 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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It's very relevant, in fact it's the most relevant thing in the universe.
Are you seriously saying that "I have been attending Mass for 46 years now. I've heard sermon after sermon about Jesus and His love, peace, and goodness. I have yet to hear one single solitary sermon calling for the return of the Inquisition," is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE UNIVERSE? And is "one single solitary" redundant?
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1/21/2017 11:18:58 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Ludlow is clearly experiencing mind and personality disruption.
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1/21/2017 2:03:33 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Are you seriously saying that "I have been attending Mass for 46 years now. I've heard sermon after sermon about Jesus and His love, peace, and goodness. I have yet to hear one single solitary sermon calling for the return of the Inquisition," is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE UNIVERSE? And is "one single solitary" redundant?
What I meant was that Jesus' live, mercy, and goodness are tge most important things in the universe.
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1/21/2017 2:34:58 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Your posts suffer greatly from your endless typos. Two in just the one sentence above. Please, beg your landlady to let you have a laptop computer in your room.
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1/21/2017 3:12:28 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If God is a great God of love, why did He create some strains of peoples to be wonderful and beautiful, and some strains of peoples to be inferior and degenerate?
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1/21/2017 5:50:56 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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God didn't make man perfect and some people like yourself become degenerate as a matter of choice, Ludlow.
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1/21/2017 7:01:45 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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But why are some "strains" (races) if people inferior to other strains, and some people degenerate just because of their genes? And who are these inferior and degenerate people? Africans? Slavs? Jews? Gypsies? Asians? Persons born with handicaps? Are governments acting within the law of God if they forcibly sterilize some of these people?
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1/21/2017 7:25:05 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are a sick pathetic man, Ludlow. You assert it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons because that is what those who rejected and killed Jesus believed. And you assert that God ordered man to slaughter untold thousands of animals and even to kill Jesus to "show man how horrible sin is." Yet what you complain about is the UB saying that there are "somewhat" inferior and degenerate strains of "unidentified" humans for which reproduction should be curtailed in a humane fashion which they clearly leave up to man to identify and curtail if and when man chooses to do so. You are truly a sick man, Ludlow.
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1/21/2017 8:27:05 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Please, KB, identify those races and strains of peoples that God considers inferior and degenerate. FJO says they are whoever the current government say they are. Do you agree?
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1/21/2017 9:41:59 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Please, KB, identify those races and strains of peoples that God considers inferior and degenerate. FJO says they are whoever the current government say they are. Do you agree?
I did not say that. You are a liar once again unless you can provide a quote where I say the "current government" decides.
Please, for Christ's sake, stop your lying by all the devices you use.
Anyway, your guy Paul says you are supposed to obey your current government.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
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1/21/2017 10:22:05 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I thought you said every society (any national government) could decide for itself who was inferior and degenerate and who not.
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1/22/2017 2:37:54 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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I thought you said every society (any national government) could decide for itself who was inferior and degenerate and who not.
I never said anything about national governments. That makes you a liar. Do not introduce your words and say that I said them.
Yes, every society has the right to decide whatever it decides to decide.
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1/30/2017 2:56:31 PM |
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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are you guys talking about urania, Goddess of love; counterpart of Greek Aphrodite from
greek mythology???
good LORD, help us!
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1/30/2017 3:09:06 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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are you guys talking about urania, Goddess of love; counterpart of Greek Aphrodite from
greek mythology???
good LORD, help us!
Hi clarity,
No, we're no talking about "Urania," goddess of love.
We're talking about The Urantia Book, God's new revelation of religious truth to our world, which is called "Urantia" in the book. This is the one to get. If you have any serious questions, please ask them. I will try to answer them the best I can:
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1/30/2017 3:36:36 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I never said anything about national governments. That makes you a liar. Do not introduce your words and say that I said them.
Yes, every society has the right to decide whatever it decides to decide.
Unless it is a democracy, whatever the government decides, society decides, no? So when the eugenicist Adolf Hitler decided Jews, slavs, blacks, Asians, and handicapped people were inferior and degenerate, German society decided that they were inferior and degenerate, and God ratifies a choice like that? Can't you see the evil in eugenics?
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1/30/2017 3:47:23 PM |
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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Hi clarity,
No, we're no talking about "Urania," goddess of love.
We're talking about The Urantia Book, God's new revelation of religious truth to our world, which is called "Urantia" in the book. This is the one to get. If you have any serious questions, please ask them. I will try to answer them the best I can:
tell where in scripture 'urantia' is referred to?
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1/30/2017 3:52:11 PM |
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clarity101
Aurora, CO
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just a little beginning research on my own.....
"What is the Urantia book?"
The Urantia Book was supposedly dictated to a Chicago psychiatrist named W.S. Sadler from 1934 to 1935 by a man who spoke in his sleep on behalf of alien super-mortals called revelators. Sadler formed a group to discuss these revelations, from which the Urantia Foundation was formed in 1950. The Urantia Foundation began publishing the Urantia Book in 1955. Although there is no official religion based upon the Urantia Book, there are groups, like the Jesusonian Foundation, who teach others what is contained in the Urantia Book.
It is difficult to summarize the Urantia Book, as it encompasses many subjects and ideas, from science to politics, from philosophy to history. It is divided into four parts: Part I: The Central and Superuniverses; Part II: The Local Universe; Part III: The History of Urantia; Part IV: The Life and Teachings of Jesus. Consider a few of the teachings found in this book:
* The cosmos is divided into seven concentric rings, the center ring being the Isle of Paradise, where God resides.
* The Urantia Book supersedes the Bible as the ultimate source of truth.
* God exists in three separate trinities: the existential Paradise Trinity, the experiential Ultimate Trinity, and the experiential Absolute Trinity.
* God is known as the Universal Father and is the father of all humanity.
* Jesus Christ is one of many Creator Sons.
* Perfection is attained by continually seeking goodness over the course of many lifetimes, on many different planets.
Obviously, this book and its adherents are not representative of biblical Christianity - not by any stretch of the imagination. The Urantia Book is very similar to Mormonism and Christian Science beliefs, and little, if anything, found within its pages, is scriptural. Consider the following, in contrast to the teachings listed above: the Bible is our one authoritative source for truth (Acts 17:11; 2 Timothy 3:16-17), not writings of spirits or aliens (Galatians 1:8); Jesus is not merely an example of God, but rather is the One in whom the Godhead fully dwells, and is a part of the Trinity Himself (Colossians 2:9); man only lives once, not many times, before He faces eternal judgment from God (Hebrews 9:27); salvation does not come through anything that humans can do but is a gift from God (Romans 3:28; Ephesians 2:8-9).
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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You should always give the source of your copy and pasting of other people's opinions.
I can address the material below but since it's not yours and you really know nothing about the subject, I will wait for any specific, serious questions if you have them.
And it makes no more sense for you to get your opinions about The Urantia Book from some hostile Christian site than it makes for you to get information about Buddhism or Hinduism or Islam from such a biased site.
just a little beginning research on my own.....
"What is the Urantia book?"
The Urantia Book was supposedly dictated to a Chicago psychiatrist named W.S. Sadler from 1934 to 1935 by a man who spoke in his sleep on behalf of alien super-mortals called revelators. Sadler formed a group to discuss these revelations, from which the Urantia Foundation was formed in 1950. The Urantia Foundation began publishing the Urantia Book in 1955. Although there is no official religion based upon the Urantia Book, there are groups, like the Jesusonian Foundation, who teach others what is contained in the Urantia Book.
It is difficult to summarize the Urantia Book, as it encompasses many subjects and ideas, from science to politics, from philosophy to history. It is divided into four parts: Part I: The Central and Superuniverses; Part II: The Local Universe; Part III: The History of Urantia; Part IV: The Life and Teachings of Jesus. Consider a few of the teachings found in this book:
* The cosmos is divided into seven concentric rings, the center ring being the Isle of Paradise, where God resides.
* The Urantia Book supersedes the Bible as the ultimate source of truth.
* God exists in three separate trinities: the existential Paradise Trinity, the experiential Ultimate Trinity, and the experiential Absolute Trinity.
* God is known as the Universal Father and is the father of all humanity.
* Jesus Christ is one of many Creator Sons.
* Perfection is attained by continually seeking goodness over the course of many lifetimes, on many different planets.
Obviously, this book and its adherents are not representative of biblical Christianity - not by any stretch of the imagination. The Urantia Book is very similar to Mormonism and Christian Science beliefs, and little, if anything, found within its pages, is scriptural. Consider the following, in contrast to the teachings listed above: the Bible is our one authoritative source for truth (Acts 17:11; 2 Timothy 3:16-17), not writings of spirits or aliens (Galatians 1:8); Jesus is not merely an example of God, but rather is the One in whom the Godhead fully dwells, and is a part of the Trinity Himself (Colossians 2:9); man only lives once, not many times, before He faces eternal judgment from God (Hebrews 9:27); salvation does not come through anything that humans can do but is a gift from God (Romans 3:28; Ephesians 2:8-9).
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1/30/2017 5:00:06 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Unless it is a democracy, whatever the government decides, society decides, no? So when the eugenicist Adolf Hitler decided Jews, slavs, blacks, Asians, and handicapped people were inferior and degenerate, German society decided that they were inferior and degenerate, and God ratifies a choice like that? Can't you see the evil in eugenics?
You look it up but somewhere in the Bible it says to the effect that we are to obey our rulers for they are ordained by God to help us. If that nonsense is Gods truth in your mind then Hitler was acting with Gods approval. Its really shocking to see how you church indoctrinated book Christians are so screwed up and so blind you can't see it.
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1/30/2017 5:05:36 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Not only does the Urantia Book say there are 700,000 gods, it also advocates the evil philosophy and practice of eugenics.
Followsjesusonly, KB, tell Clarity how you guys believe in eugenics. Give her your usual excuses for it, and see if she buys it.
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1/30/2017 5:05:40 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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tell where in scripture 'urantia' is referred to?
Serious, not impertinent, questions only please. You already know the answer to the question you just asked. The Universe did not start the day the "scripture" was written or the day you were "born again."
Perhaps...
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. (John 21:25)
It's all in The Urantia Book. The last 700 pages of The Urantia Book is the complete "Life and Teachings of Jesus," from both the human records when they are adequate, supplemented and corrected by the records that God's angels keep of all of God's doings on earth.
And the first 1000 pages in The Urantia Book have nothing to do with the bible. It's all new information, new revelation.
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1/30/2017 5:11:26 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Not only does the Urantia Book say there are 700,000 gods, it also advocates the evil philosophy and practice of eugenics.
Followsjesusonly, KB, tell Clarity how you guys believe in eugenics. Give her your usual excuses for it, and see if she buys it.
The Urantia Book does not advocate the killing of anyone and its single statement about the desirability of mankind to control the reproduction of the "more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks" of the human race is left solely in the hands of mankind to decide if and when mankind ever does.
You are a sick, arrogant and blasphemous man, Ludlow, who truly appears to enjoy your depravity.
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1/30/2017 5:13:09 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Not only does the Urantia Book say there are 700,000 gods, it also advocates the evil philosophy and practice of eugenics.
Followsjesusonly, KB, tell Clarity how you guys believe in eugenics. Give her your usual excuses for it, and see if she buys it.
Clarity, ludlowlowell is a known cathlick compulsive liar. HE DOES LIE. Be careful.
Even his pope says he, ludlow, does evil with his lies. And in return Ludlow has said that his pope is an "utter idiot." And ludlow, like all cathlicks, refuses to obey Jesus, calling priests, "Father" and praying to Mary and other dead people. Ludlow prays to the spirit of a dead person to help him find his flip-flops. Be careful, unless you are a cathlick. Ludlow will try to lie you into his abomination of a sect.
There are no "gods" in The Urantia Book. This is one of the ways he lies. And so on.
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1/30/2017 5:15:57 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Unless it is a democracy, whatever the government decides, society decides, no? So when the eugenicist Adolf Hitler decided Jews, slavs, blacks, Asians, and handicapped people were inferior and degenerate, German society decided that they were inferior and degenerate, and God ratifies a choice like that? Can't you see the evil in eugenics?
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
That's it. Thanks.
Ludlow, if that nonsense is Gods truth in your mind then Hitler was acting with Gods approval. Its really shocking to see how you church indoctrinated book Christians are so screwed up and so blind you can't see it.
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1/30/2017 9:50:34 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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FJO says Hitler was acting with God's approval, not me. FJO, like Hitler, is in favor of eugenics. I'm not.
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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FJO says Hitler was acting with God's approval, not me.
You lie once again. Is there no end to your lying?
I really think you should see a psychiatrist and maybe he can help you with your compulsive lying.
I never said Hitler was acting with God's approval.
Why do you lie like that? I find it inexplicable except by invoking mental illness for you.
Apparently your guy Paul is saying that Hitler was acting with God's approval, not me.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Hitler was ordained by God, according to your guy Paul.
Why do you lie and say that I said that? What is wrong with you that you lie so much?
What a sick man you are.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Hitler and FJO, in favor of eugenics. Ludlow and the Catholic Church, opposed to eugenics. Is that a lie?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Ludlow, you are just a sick, corrupt, lying, depraved, hypocrite who believes it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake if they don't believe as you do and you even call your own pope a "utter idiot" which makes you also a heretic.
You are one sick, depraved, wicked-minded, individual, Ludlow, and you are so utterly debased you don't care.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Okay, okay, I'm a terrible person, a terrible sinner. But my statement is still true: Nazis and the Urantia Book advocate eugenics, and Ludlow Lowell and the Catholic Church are opposed to eugenics.
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2/1/2017 2:05:06 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Okay, okay, I'm a terrible person, a terrible sinner. But my statement is still true: Nazis and the Urantia Book advocate eugenics, and Ludlow Lowell and the Catholic Church are opposed to eugenics.
Yes, we know you are against the improvement of the human race and you are against the betterment of the human condition and you are against Jesus when He tells you to pray to the Father and to not call priests, "Father," and against God when He tells you not to pray to idols and bow down to them and you are against your own sect leader the pope on many issues if not all issues. You have even said that the pope is not a good Catholic like you are. We know you are a compulsive liar and that you are probably animated by Satan or are mentally unsound.
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2/1/2017 2:49:57 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I am in favor of the improvement of the human race, not by telling blacks, Indians, Hispanics, and handicapped people that they can't have children, but by converting the world to the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ.
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, not to condemn the world, but that through him the world might be saved."
--John 3:16
"If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature."
--2 Corinthians 5:17
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2/1/2017 10:13:35 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
74, joined May. 2012
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I am in favor of the improvement of the human race, not by telling blacks, Indians, Hispanics, and handicapped people that they can't have children,
Well, I don't know anything about that so that indicates that you are lying again by inference.
--2 Corinthians 5:17
I don't follow 2 Cor or whoever wrote it. Don't bother quoting it to me.
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2/1/2017 10:15:56 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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How would you suggest the government putting eugenics in practice, FJO, if you don't advocate limiting the children of the "inferior" strains.
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2/1/2017 10:48:38 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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How would you suggest the government putting eugenics in practice, FJO, if you don't advocate limiting the children of the "inferior" strains.
That's for society to decide.
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2/1/2017 11:50:04 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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In what way would you advocate our society implementing eugenics?
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2/2/2017 10:01:06 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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65:3.6 (734.3) Mankind on Urantia must solve its problems of mortal development with the human stocks it has — no more races will evolve from prehuman sources throughout all future time. But this fact does not preclude the possibility of the attainment of vastly higher levels of human development through the intelligent fostering of the evolutionary potentials still resident in the mortal races. That which we, the Life Carriers, do toward fostering and conserving the life strains before the appearance of human will, man must do for himself after such an event and subsequent to our retirement from active participation in evolution. In a general way, man’s evolutionary destiny is in his own hands, and scientific intelligence must sooner or later supersede the random functioning of uncontrolled natural selection and chance survival.
Do you agree or disagree, Ludlow?
How do you define eugenics, Ludlow?
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2/2/2017 11:23:16 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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That statement is way too vague for me to agree or disagree with, KB, but I see the human race improving, not by selective breeding as if humans were cows, but through faith in Christ---yes, KB, even the "inferior" and "degenerate" strains, KB, even the pitifully handicapped that you can't bear to see.
A definition of eugenics? I'll go by whatever the dictionary says.
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2/2/2017 12:41:33 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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That statement is way too vague for me to agree or disagree with, KB, but I see the human race improving, not by selective breeding as if humans were cows, but through faith in Christ---yes, KB, even the "inferior" and "degenerate" strains, KB, even the pitifully handicapped that you can't bear to see.
You are such a despicable lying hypocrite to be professing to be a Christian while LYING, Ludlow. Why do you keep lying about someone considering "handicapped" people to be inferior or degenerate? Who has said or implied such a thing? No one. Its nothing but a ridiculous and false assertion out of your warped mind, Ludlow. You don't value truth at all if it doesn't serve your warped mind, Ludlow.
As has been told to you time and time again "the desirability of mankind to control the reproduction of the "more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks" of the human race is left solely in the hands of mankind to decide if and when mankind ever does."
A definition of eugenics? I'll go by whatever the dictionary says.
I asked for "your" definition. What definition have you accepted? Quote it.
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2/2/2017 12:55:40 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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For the gazillionth time, WHO ARE THESE MARKEDLY DEGENERATE AND INFERIOR STRAINS OF PEOPLES? Who are they, KB? Who is so all-fired inferior that you would say they can't procreate? Who are these people?
Your fellow eugenicists the Nazis thought blacks, Jews, Slavs, Asians, and handicapped people were inferior to the "pure" Aryan race, and promptly proceeded to wipe them all out. Is your list of inferiors the same as theirs, or do you have a different list.
My definition of eugenics is the same definition the google online dictionary has. You can gooe it faster than I can type it up.
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2/2/2017 1:27:26 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Why did you LIE and say "KB even the pitifully handicapped that you can't bear to see" which I have never said or implied? Why do you LIE, Ludlow? Does lying make you feel good, Ludlow? If it does that's a clear sign of moral, mental and spiritual degeneracy. Are you so corrupt you are blind to this?
eu·gen·ics
/yo?o'jeniks/
noun
noun: eugenics
the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.
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If your "definition of eugenics is the same definition" then what the hell is your problem? If you believe it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake if they don't believe as you do what's your problem with the above defined eugenics?
[Edited 2/2/2017 1:28:10 PM ]
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2/2/2017 2:24:45 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
74, joined May. 2012
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Ludlow, is mentally ill and slipping deeper into unreality. And Ludlow is a compulsive liar. He doesn't love God so apparently he's just going to sow all the evil he can sow while he can.
Why did you LIE and say "KB even the pitifully handicapped that you can't bear to see" which I have never said or implied? Why do you LIE, Ludlow? Does lying make you feel good, Ludlow? If it does that's a clear sign of moral, mental and spiritual degeneracy. Are you so corrupt you are blind to this?
eu·gen·ics
/yo?o'jeniks/
noun
noun: eugenics
the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. Developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race, it fell into disfavor only after the perversion of its doctrines by the Nazis.
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If your "definition of eugenics is the same definition" then what the hell is your problem? If you believe it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake if they don't believe as you do what's your problem with the above defined eugenics?
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