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ludlowlowell
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Eugenics is evil. Eugenics is Nazi.

1/29/2017 5:56:12 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

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Quote from _ladybug_:
Now THAT'S funny!!



Yeah, you're right. It is funny!



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followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Eugenics is evil. Eugenics is Nazi.


Little boy answers. Saying the same thing over and over and over.

"What I tell you three times is true." -Lewis Carroll

1/29/2017 6:10:20 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Bible: says unrepentant sinners will be punished.


You are a liar. The term "unrepentant sinners" is not in the bible so it can't say that.

Urantia Book: says the "inferior" and "degenerate" people, who were born that way, should be punished.


You are such a liar, as your pope says, doing evil. On what page does it say that inferior" and "degenerate" people, who were born that way, should be punished?

My God what a liar you are! What an ignoramus you are.

Don't you even get a little bit nauseated by your own lies? I am embarrassed for you. You have cozied up to Satan for so long you don't even have a conscience about such things. I think people like you who don't know right from wrong are called sociopaths.

"We Catholics have some — and not some, many — who believe they possess the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil. They do evil. I say this because it is my Church." [The pope] further added that "fundamentalism is more idolatry than actual religion, warning that 'ideas and false certainties' can take the place of faith, love, and God." -pope Francis

You do evil.

1/29/2017 6:37:57 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

followjesusonly
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Analysis of a serial, compulsive liar.

Ludlow said: "Urantia Book: says handicapped people should be punished."

And Ludlow said: "Urantia Book: says the "inferior" and "degenerate" people, who were born that way, should be punished."

These two statements are pure lies. How do we know they are lies? We know because Ludlow has not read The Urantia Book and cannot produce a page where The Urantia Book says anyone should be punished.

Thus, in order to make the statement, lie, Ludlow has to make it up out of thin air. And he did that. He has no compunctions about making up lies. None. If he needs a lie, he will just make it up and smear it on the wall. Such people are known as sociopaths.

His own pope says that Ludlow does evil.

"We Catholics have some — and not some, many — who believe they possess the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil. They do evil. I say this because it is my Church." [The pope] further added that "fundamentalism is more idolatry than actual religion, warning that 'ideas and false certainties' can take the place of faith, love, and God." -pope Francis

Ludlow dirties the other with calumny and with disinformation (lies), exactly as pope Francis says.

1/29/2017 7:28:50 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

ludlowlowell
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Yes, Pope Francis, in spite of tge best efforts of you and other liberal bishops, some Catholics actually still believe in the Catholic faith.

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followjesusonly
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*
malcontent
noun
1.
a person who is dissatisfied and rebellious.
synonyms: troublemaker, mischief-maker, agitator, dissident, rebel, rabble-rouser


Compulsive Liar
A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit—an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.

Compulsive Lying
Is your husband or wife, boyfriend or girlfriend a compulsive/pathological liar or a sociopath?

To begin with, it may help to understand the difference between a pathological or compulsive liar and a sociopath (see types of liars).

Ultimately, making this type of distinction may not be that useful. Because in either case, the outcome is typically the same: dealing with a compulsive or pathological liar is very difficult to do. And unfortunately, sociopaths cannot be changed (see lovefraud).

A compulsive liar will resort to telling lies, regardless of the situation. Again, everyone lies from time to time (see when lovers lie), but for a compulsive liar, telling lies is routine. It becomes a habit—a way of life.

Simply put, for a compulsive liar, lying becomes second nature.

Not only do compulsive liars bend the truth about issues large and small, they take comfort in it. Lying feels right to a compulsive liar. Telling the truth, on the other hand, is difficult and uncomfortable.

And like any behavior which provides comfort and an escape from discomfort (i.e., alcohol, drugs, sex), lying can become addictive and hard to stop. For the compulsive liar, lying feels safe and this fuels the desire to lie even more.

Making matters even more complicated, compulsive lying is often a symptom of a much larger personality disorder, which only makes the problem more difficult to resolve (see narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder).

Unfortunately, compulsive lying is hard for the person involved to see, but it hurts those who are around it. Compulsive lying, if not addressed, can easily ruin a relationship (for example, see why does he need to lie).

Compulsive lying can be dealt with through counseling or therapy. But, like any addictive behavior (and/or personality disorder), getting someone to admit they have a problem with lying is the difficult part.

1/30/2017 1:42:58 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

ludlowlowell
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When you insist on capitalizing "creator sons" aren't you saying that they are gods?

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followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
When you insist on capitalizing "creator sons" aren't you saying that they are gods?


No. They are God. All Creator Sons are God.

5:3.6 The Creator or Sovereign Sons who preside over the destinies of the local universes stand in the place of both the Universal Father and the Eternal Son of Paradise. These Universe Sons receive, in the name of the Father, the adoration of worship and give ear to the pleas of their petitioning subjects throughout their respective creations. To the children of a local universe a Michael Son is, to all practical intents and purposes, God. He is the local universe personification of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. -The Urantia Book

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ludlowlowell
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But God has only one begotten Son. You said so yourself in another thread.

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followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
But God has only one begotten Son. You said so yourself in another thread.


I don't think so, UNLESS YOU CAN PROVIDE A COPY AND PASTE QUOTE IN CONTEXT.

But you can't do that, can you? Your landlady won't let you have a computer in your room in the boarding house.

1/30/2017 3:40:48 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

ludlowlowell
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So which is it, FJO?

a. God has only one begotten Son.

b. God has 700,000 begotten Sons.

1/30/2017 5:24:54 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
So which is it, FJO?

a. God has only one begotten Son.

b. God has 700,000 begotten Sons.


No, wait. You're not changing the subject again.
You said:
Quote from ludlowlowell:
But God has only one begotten Son. You said so yourself in another thread.

And I wrote:

I don't think so, UNLESS YOU CAN PROVIDE A COPY AND PASTE QUOTE IN CONTEXT.

But you can't do that, can you? Your landlady won't let you have a computer in your room in the boarding house.

Now unless you can provide an exact copy of what you said I said, I want you to admit that you are a liar and that you lied about this and that I didn't say what you said I said.

You can get help for your compulsive lying. It's said that people who are compulsive liars are that way because they had to lie a lot when they were kids and it just became second nature to them, a survival technique. Tell us all about how you came to be such an easy liar. What happened when you were little to cause this?

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kb2222
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Ludlow, is a compulsive liar and that's probably why he fell in love with and became a pawn of the corrupt Catholic church.

1/30/2017 9:15:15 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

ludlowlowell
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FJO, today (Jan. 30) @ 3:24 p.m., in the thread "Why Protestantism Doesn't Work", you said "Well, you don't know why God sent His only begotten Son."

So you DO believe Jesus is God's only begotten Son. This means you disbelieve the Urantia Book, which says that God has 700,000 creator sons.

I'm glad to see that you are seeing the light, FJO. How about a repudiation of eugenics.

1/30/2017 9:37:25 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
FJO, today (Jan. 30) @ 3:24 p.m., in the thread "Why Protestantism Doesn't Work", you said "Well, you don't know why God sent His only begotten Son."

So you DO believe Jesus is God's only begotten Son. This means you disbelieve the Urantia Book, which says that God has 700,000 creator sons.

I'm glad to see that you are seeing the light, FJO. How about a repudiation of eugenics.


You're still lying and sowing cofusion. You need to see a head doctor.

You said, "But God has only one begotten Son. You said so yourself in another thread."

But I never said God has only one begotten Son.

My statement that "Well, you don't know why God sent His only begotten Son," does not say or imply that "God has only one begotten Son." That's what YOU said, not me.

"Only one begotten Son" as you said, not me, is not the same as "only begotten Son."

Is English your first language?

This has been explained to you before but you don't read what other people post. Sharenlove has said that many times and it's true.

And yes, I know, you don't think that mankind should try to improve the human race and the human condition and eliminate birth defects like muscular dystrophy and so on. You like it when people suffer. You're an evil man. And thankfully, your genetic code will not be transmitted into the future since you have apparently chosen not to have sex with women.

cup:
LUD, have you ever had sex (made love) with a woman?
Lud:
If I did, I went to Confession and God forgave me.

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ludlowlowell
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To say "You don't know why God sent His only begotten Son" is to say you believe God has only one begotten Son.

1/30/2017 10:52:18 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

followjesusonly
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
To say "You don't know why God sent His only begotten Son" is to say you believe God has only one begotten Son.


No it's not. That's what you say it means, not me. Your reading skills are lacking. Did you go to school down south when you were growing up?

1/30/2017 11:48:23 PM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

ludlowlowell
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You're busted, FJO. Admit it.

Now that you believe Jesus is God's only begotten Son, you must throw your Urantia Book aesy.

1/31/2017 12:15:55 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

followjesusonly
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[]Quote from ludlowlowell:[/][]You're busted, FJO. Admit it.

Now that you believe Jesus is God's only begotten Son, you must throw your Urantia Book aesy.[/]

============================================================================

I have always believed that Jesus is God's only begotten Son. You're just apparently too stupid and too self centered like your church to get it. Or too much of a liar. If you would read what people post, that would be a major breakthrough.

This information has been posted before, but you don't read it. You are unteachable.

Please read it carefully and try to grasp it. Jesus is God's only begotten Son in the same way that, if your parents had 100 sons, you would be the only begotten son who was ludlow lowell (Pal Joey).

21:0.1 THE Creator Sons are the makers and rulers of the local universes of time and space. These universe creators and sovereigns are of dual origin, embodying the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son. But each Creator Son is different from every other; each is unique in nature as well as in personality; each is the “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of his origin.

21:1.1 When the fullness of absolute spiritual ideation in the Eternal Son encounters the fullness of absolute personality concept in the Universal Father, when such a creative union is finally and fully attained, when such absolute identity of spirit and such infinite oneness of personality concept occur, then, right then and there, without the loss of anything of personality or prerogative by either of the infinite Deities, there flashes into full-fledged being a new and original Creator Son, the only-begotten Son of the perfect ideal and the powerful idea whose union produces this new creator personality of power and perfection.

21:1.2 Each Creator Son is the only-begotten and only-begettable offspring of the perfect union of the original concepts of the two infinite and eternal and perfect minds of the ever-existent Creators of the universe of universes. There never can be another such Son because each Creator Son is the unqualified, finished, and final expression and embodiment of all of every phase of every feature of every possibility of every divine reality that could, throughout all eternity, ever be found in, expressed by, or evolved from, those divine creative potentials which united to bring this Michael Son into existence.

33:1.1 Our Creator Son is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. The Michael of Nebadon is the “only-begotten Son” personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity. His headquarters is in the threefold mansion of light on Salvington. -The Urantia Book

1/31/2017 2:43:22 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

ludlowlowell
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The scripture does not say that God gave only one of His begotten Sons, the one named Jesus. The scripture says God gave His ONLY begotten Son. Jesus is the only one.

1/31/2017 9:05:38 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

kb2222
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You are so corrupt you are unteachable, Ludlow. The universe is vast and it is organized and God is not limited to having only one Creator Son.

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cupocheer
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F**k the Urantia cult!

1/31/2017 9:10:38 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

kb2222
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Cupocheer once again spews out her arrogant depravity like a hissing snake.

1/31/2017 9:16:22 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  
cupocheer
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F**k the creator sons and the disk they rode in on.

1/31/2017 9:18:14 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

kb2222
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Cupocheer once again spews out her arrogant depravity like a hissing snake.

1/31/2017 9:19:47 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

iam_resurrected
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if urantia was biblical then it would just have as many followers of that of the bible.

God reveals TRUTHS and I find it odd only 2 of you out of so-called believers in God believe this stuff.

clearly, when I read the urantia the words do not come alive like they do in the bible.

have you ever read a scripture and it made sense for the trials you were dealing with at the time and then can read same scripture later and find more truth to it than you first once thought was there?

that is because it is God's WORD and His Word is ALIVE.

nothing within the pages are alive but copy/paste and manufactured explanations of the urantia.

there is no power you feel nor do you feel comforted with the urantia, book of Mormon, or the pamphlet packs of the jehova witnesses.

bible says you know what is real by the spirit.

when you read the holy bible you can feel both the spirit and the presence of Almighty God.

when you read these other manuscripts it is like reading a dictionary from your local library...just pages full of words and meanings that only pertain to someone's opinions.

I absolutely feel the presence of God when I read the bible.

when I do not feel that same presence in other manuscripts it is OBVIOUS this is not something of the TRUE GOD.



[Edited 1/31/2017 9:20:59 AM ]

1/31/2017 9:40:47 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

kb2222
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Why do you not respond, iam_resurrected?


Quote from kb2222:

@ iam_resurrected

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

iam_resurrected, do you really believe it is righteous and just to kill people for those reasons?

Do you actually believe that is what Jesus would order man to do?

Do you actually believe God is so murderous and filled with wrath, vengeance and a blood lust that He would order man to slaughter untold thousands of animals for centuries as a appeasement sacrifice and then require His own Son's death in a horrible crucifixion as a blood sacrifice before He would forgive man for sin?

If you believe Jesus' death was necessary as a blood sacrifice to atone for the sin of man then why didn't Jesus come as said sacrifice before God supposedly found it necessary to destroy everyone in the world except Noah and his family in a worldwide flood?

1/31/2017 10:38:39 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

iam_resurrected
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
if urantia was biblical then it would just have as many followers of that of the bible.

God reveals TRUTHS and I find it odd only 2 of you out of so-called believers in God believe this stuff.

clearly, when I read the urantia the words do not come alive like they do in the bible.

have you ever read a scripture and it made sense for the trials you were dealing with at the time and then can read same scripture later and find more truth to it than you first once thought was there?

that is because it is God's WORD and His Word is ALIVE.

nothing within the pages are alive but copy/paste and manufactured explanations of the urantia.

there is no power you feel nor do you feel comforted with the urantia, book of Mormon, or the pamphlet packs of the jehova witnesses.

bible says you know what is real by the spirit.

when you read the holy bible you can feel both the spirit and the presence of Almighty God.

when you read these other manuscripts it is like reading a dictionary from your local library...just pages full of words and meanings that only pertain to someone's opinions.

I absolutely feel the presence of God when I read the bible.

when I do not feel that same presence in other manuscripts it is OBVIOUS this is not something of the TRUE GOD.




TRUTH

1/31/2017 10:51:43 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

kb2222
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
TRUTH

You are such a obvious FAKE.

If the truth mattered to you you would not evade answering my questions.

1/31/2017 11:18:10 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

iam_resurrected
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I answered you many times that if the bible states it about the actions and nature of God I do in fact believe in it.

when God gave the LAWS he gave it to a specific sect of people...not all of the people who were on earth at this time.

so of course the laws were brutal and bloody.

it was designed specifically to keep ONE SECT of people in line with God.

that changed with Christ because now we all can be with and accepted by God.



you are so out there due to this urantia crap I wake up early just to see what kind of stupidity you actually spout off in the name of it so I can hammer you back to hell where your information is coming form



[Edited 1/31/2017 11:18:25 AM ]

1/31/2017 11:29:41 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

kb2222
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You are deceived. You don't personally answer my questions because you can't stand the truth of Gods Holy Spirit that speaks within. Your murderous and blood thirsty concept of God serves Satan not God.

1/31/2017 11:31:28 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

iam_resurrected
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you are DEMON POSSESSED!!!

1/31/2017 11:36:00 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

kb2222
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Quote from kb2222:

@ iam_resurrected

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

iam_resurrected, do you really believe it is righteous and just to kill people for those reasons?

Do you actually believe that is what Jesus would order man to do?

Do you actually believe God is so murderous and filled with wrath, vengeance and a blood lust that He would order man to slaughter untold thousands of animals for centuries as a appeasement sacrifice and then require His own Son's death in a horrible crucifixion as a blood sacrifice before He would forgive man for sin?

If you believe Jesus' death was necessary as a blood sacrifice to atone for the sin of man then why didn't Jesus come as said sacrifice before God supposedly found it necessary to destroy everyone in the world except Noah and his family in a worldwide flood?

1/31/2017 11:38:39 AM How many "creator sons" teach eugenics? | Page 2  

iam_resurrected
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Quote from kb2222:
Quote from kb2222:

@ iam_resurrected

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

iam_resurrected, do you really believe it is righteous and just to kill people for those reasons?

Do you actually believe that is what Jesus would order man to do?

Do you actually believe God is so murderous and filled with wrath, vengeance and a blood lust that He would order man to slaughter untold thousands of animals for centuries as a appeasement sacrifice and then require His own Son's death in a horrible crucifixion as a blood sacrifice before He would forgive man for sin?

If you believe Jesus' death was necessary as a blood sacrifice to atone for the sin of man then why didn't Jesus come as said sacrifice before God supposedly found it necessary to destroy everyone in the world except Noah and his family in a worldwide flood?





this entire questionnaire screams violently of SATAN throwing a fit because Christians know who GOD is and still chooses him.

you are DEMON POSSESSED KB!!!

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Quote from iam_resurrected:
this entire questionnaire screams violently of SATAN throwing a fit because Christians know who GOD is and still chooses him.

you are DEMON POSSESSED KB!!!

Your mind is warped. It is you refusing to honestly answer questions claiming you are succumbing to Satan if you do.

Jesus did not instruct His followers to unquestionably believe in a book. He sent into the world the Holy Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Son as His replacement teacher not any book the church later compiled. And it is your downfall that you have so chosen to ignore and dismiss this replacement teacher that speaks within.

You can't stand the truth if it conflicts with church doctrine about the book they compiled and this is made abundantly clear in your refusal to honestly answer questions.

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iam_resurrected
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just like the devil you talk in circles hahahaha

you truthfully are possessed.

no wonder you live alone.

anyone who got near you probably can feel their skin crawl and has this image of something crawling off of you onto them

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kb2222
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You have a serious mental problem. You don't know righteousness from wickedness or you don't care and you believe God/Jesus doesn't either. You are Satan possessed.

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I whole heartedly believe in Christ Jesus and His Word I read when I open my KJV bible to be a light upon my path.

not a secondary application that could never be real without the Word of God (bible ) first.


there can be no urantia without first having the bible.

so clearly, your source is of the DEVIL.

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You have a serious mental problem. You don't know righteousness from wickedness or you don't care and you believe God/Jesus doesn't either. You are Satan possessed.


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nice try Demon or Legion.

do you know when I prayed over those angels I had a can of dog food that literally fell over.

I am making something mad...aint I

Oh, don't you just love Christ Jesus and his powerful BLOOD that you find barbaric because you are the DEVIL?

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The scripture does not say that God gave only one of His begotten Sons, the one named Jesus. The scripture says God gave His ONLY begotten Son. Jesus is the only one.


Yes, God gave His only begotten Son. No, Jesus is not the only one. He's the only one FOR US. You know so little. Your ignorance is intruding. The scripture only knows what the scripture knows. It doesn't know everything. The universe existed before the scripture. When you were a little boy they didn't tell you where babies came from. When you grew up, hopefully, they told you more.

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Cupocheer once again spews out her arrogant depravity like a hissing snake.


I blocked her a couple of weeks ago. Life is good.

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if urantia was biblical then it would just have as many followers of that of the bible.


That's just stupid. The bible has been around for 2000 years. God only gave us The Urantia Book in 1955 to correct the records.

God reveals TRUTHS and I find it odd only 2 of you out of so-called believers in God believe this stuff.


God has revealed truths in The Urantia Book. You would believe it too but you have to read it first. No one expects you to believe anything you have not read. "Come and see!" as Philip said to Nathaniel. But like any good Jehovah's Witness or cathlick or fundamentallist Christian, you have closed your mind. You got your indoctrination and SLAM, you shut the door on any more information. How are you different from the Jehovah's Witnesses in that manner? They're closed minded too.

clearly, when I read the urantia the words do not come alive like they do in the bible.


That's probably a psychological phenomenon like religious ecstasy. It's probably like having an orgasm. I think Ludlow says it happens to him when he eats Jesus and drinks Jesus' blood in pretend-land during the cannibalistic part of the cathlick mass. You're probably experiencing something like that.

have you ever read a scripture and it made sense for the trials you were dealing with at the time and then can read same scripture later and find more truth to it than you first once thought was there?

that is because it is God's WORD and His Word is ALIVE.


Only the words of Jesus are God's Word.

nothing within the pages are alive but copy/paste and manufactured explanations of the urantia.


I am unable to understand your convoluted, cryptic sentences. Can't you write better?

there is no power you feel nor do you feel comforted with the urantia,


Yes, there is and yes I do.

book of Mormon, or the pamphlet packs of the jehova witnesses.


The book of Mormon and the pamphlets of the JWs have nothing to do with The Urantia Book, and I'm sure that for them, Mormons and JWs, their material does feel the power for them and does make them feel comforted. Why would it not?

bible says you know what is real by the spirit.

when you read the holy bible you can feel both the spirit and the presence of Almighty God.


That is a psychological phenomenon of religious ecstasy probably a similar reaction to having an orgasm. Ludlow has it when he eats Jesus and drinks His blood in pretend-land at cathlick mass.

when you read these other manuscripts it is like reading a dictionary from your local library...just pages full of words and meanings that only pertain to someone's opinions.


Not to the believers in "these other manuscripts," it's not. They can feel the same orgasmic religious ecstasy that you feel.

I absolutely feel the presence of God when I read the bible.


Ludlow says the same thing about when he eats Jesus and drinks Jesus' blood in pretend-land at cathlick mass.

when I do not feel that same presence in other manuscripts it is OBVIOUS this is not something of the TRUE GOD.


Please see above. You are experiencing a common psychological phenomenon. If it makes you think you are feeling the presense of God, well good. Enjoy it. But know what it really is. Don't kid yourself. Everyone in every religion can and does have the same experience.

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you are DEMON POSSESSED!!!


He's getting hysterical, kb.

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I enjoy you guys actually because I have always felt I knew who you 2 were from the moment you tried to introduce me to urantia.

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Quote from iam_resurrected:
I whole heartedly believe in Christ Jesus and His Word I read when I open my KJV bible to be a light upon my path.

not a secondary application that could never be real without the Word of God (bible ) first.

there can be no urantia without first having the bible.

so clearly, your source is of the DEVIL.


The Urantia Book predates the bible and it is from God. The records that make up The Urantia Book were recorded by God's angels, on the spot, as things happened.

Saying that God's new revelation to our world is "of the devil" is just like these people who said about Jesus, "He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?" (John 10:20)

Human nature hasn't changed in 2000 years. You're just like them.

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The Urantia Book predates the bible and it is from God. The records that make up The Urantia Book were recorded by God's angels, on the spot, as things happened.

Saying that God's new revelation to our world is "of the devil" is just like these people who said about Jesus, "He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?" (John 10:20)

Human nature hasn't changed in 2000 years. You're just like them.



the moment God decided to make earth and put man on it and then he would provide man his word predates everything.

since the bible is God's WORD it clearly predates your lies.

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list your angels who wrote the urantia for me?

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list your angels who wrote the urantia for me?


In alphabetical order, below. The "Midwayer Commission" is responsible for the last 1/3rd of the book, The Life and Teachings of Jesus. Midwayers are not technically angels but there are 1,111 of them on earth and they are loyal to God's government, having survived the Lucifer rebellion. The Midwayers were eyewitnesses to Jesus' life on earth. It was a Midwayer who rolled the stone away from Jesus' tomb.

-Archangel
-Brilliant Evening Star
-Chief of Archangels
-Chief of Evening Stars
-Chief of Midwayers
-Chief of Seraphim
-Divine Counselor
-Life Carrier
-Machiventa Melchizedek
-Malavatia Melchizedek
-Manovandet Melchizedek
-Mantutia Melchizedek
-Melchizedek
-Midwayer Commission
-Mighty Messenger
-Mighty Messenger and Machiventa Melchizedek
-One High in Authority
-Divine Counselor and One Without Name and Number
-Perfector of Wisdom
-Secondary Lanonandek
-Solitary Messenger
-Solonia
-Universal Censor
-Vorondadek Son

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Quote from iam_resurrected:
list your angels who wrote the urantia for me?


I see that happening.

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iam_resurrected
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the authors of the urantia books claims they were given messages from specific angels.

who are these angels and their factual names?

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Quote from iam_resurrected:
the authors of the urantia books claims they were given messages from specific angels.

who are these angels and their factual names?


KB and FJO

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you are DEMON POSSESSED!!!


My my, just look at you!

I believe in God the Father. I believe in the Trinity. I believe Jesus is God's Son. I believe Jesus is my Savior, and I believe in the Crucifixion and the Resurrection, and here you are saying, "You are demon possessed!"

Shame on you. If anyone is demon possessed it's you.

And all of your hysterics and "demon possessed" rhetoric is simply because I do not believe every stinking thing you believe exactly as you believe it.

Amazing.

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My my, just look at you!

I believe in God the Father. I believe in the Trinity. I believe Jesus is God's Son. I believe Jesus is my Savior, and I believe in the Crucifixion and the Resurrection, and here you are saying, "You are demon possessed!"

Shame on you. If anyone is demon possessed it's you.

And all of your hysterics and "demon possessed" rhetoric is simply because I do not believe every stinking thing you believe exactly as you believe it.

Amazing.




the BIBLE is very clear that both Satan and the fallen angels believe the things of God themselves.
it said they even TREMBLED.



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iam_resurrected
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now, why won't you or KB tell me the specific names of your angels whom created the urantia?

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cupocheer
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Cite scripture, please.

There are 100 Bible verses about this.

Which are you referencing?


James 2:19 ESV / 43 helpful votes

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!

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iam_resurrected
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Cite scripture, please.

There are 100 Bible verses about this.

Which are you referencing?


James 2:19 ESV / 43 helpful votes

You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!


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Quote from iam_resurrected:
the authors of the urantia books claims they were given messages from specific angels.


Who told you that? I have no idea.

who are these angels and their factual names?


I don't know what you mean by "factual names." The names I gave are the names at the end of each Paper in the book listed as the author of that Paper.

I will post the list of the Papers with the names of the authors, in two parts.

The Urantia Book

Foreword / Divine Counselor

PART I. THE CENTRAL AND SUPERUNIVERSES
Sponsored by a Uversa Corps of Superuniverse Personalities acting by authority of the Orvonton Ancients of Days.

Paper 1. The Universal Father / Divine Counselor
Paper 2. The Nature of God / Divine Counselor
Paper 3. The Attributes of God / Divine Counselor
Paper 4. God's Relation to the Universe / Divine Counselor
Paper 5. God's Relation to the Individual / Divine Counselor
Paper 6. The Eternal Son / Divine Counselor
Paper 7. Relation of the Eternal Son to the Universe / Divine Counselor
Paper 8. The Infinite Spirit / Divine Counselor
Paper 9. Relation of the Infinite Spirit to the Universe / Divine Counselor
Paper 10. The Paradise Trinity / Universal Censor
Paper 11. The Eternal Isle of Paradise / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 12. The Universe of Universes / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 13. The Sacred Spheres of Paradise / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 14. The Central and Divine Universe / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 15. The Seven Superuniverses / Universal Censor
Paper 16. The Seven Master Spirits / Universal Censor
Paper 17. The Seven Supreme Spirit Groups / Divine Counselor
Paper 18. The Supreme Trinity Personalities / Divine Counselor
Paper 19. The Coordinate Trinity-Origin Beings / Divine Counselor
Paper 20. The Paradise Sons of God / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 21. The Paradise Creator Sons / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 22. The Trinitized Sons of God / Mighty Messenger
Paper 23. The Solitary Messengers / Divine Counselor
Paper 24. Higher Personalities of the Infinite Spirit / Divine Counselor
Paper 25. The Messenger Hosts of Space / One High in Authority
Paper 26. Ministering Spirits of the Central Universe / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 27. Ministry of the Primary Supernaphim / Perfector of Wisdom
Paper 28. Ministering Spirits of the Superuniverses / Mighty Messenger
Paper 29. The Universe Power Directors / Universal Censor
Paper 30. Personalities of the Grand Universe / Mighty Messenger
Paper 31. The Corps of the Finality / Divine Counselor and One Without Name and Number

PART II. THE LOCAL UNIVERSE
Sponsored by a Nebadon Corps of Local Universe Personalities acting by authority of Gabriel of Salvington.

Paper 32. The Evolution of Local Universes / Mighty Messenger
Paper 33. Administration of the Local Universe / Chief of Archangels
Paper 34. The Local Universe Mother Spirit / Mighty Messenger
Paper 35. The Local Universe Sons of God / Chief of Archangels
Paper 36. The Life Carriers / Vorondadek Son
Paper 37. Personalities of the Local Universe / Brilliant Evening Star
Paper 38. Ministering Spirits of the Local Universe / Melchizedek
Paper 39. The Seraphic Hosts / Melchizedek
Paper 40. The Ascending Sons of God / Mighty Messenger
Paper 41. Physical Aspects of the Local Universe / Archangel
Paper 42. Energy - Mind and Matter / Mighty Messenger
Paper 43. The Constellations / Malavatia Melchizedek
Paper 44. The Celestial Artisans / Archangel
Paper 45. The Local System Administration / Melchizedek
Paper 46. The Local System Headquarters / Archangel
Paper 47. The Seven Mansion Worlds / Brilliant Evening Star
Paper 48. The Morontia Life / Archangel
Paper 49. The Inhabited Worlds / Melchizedek
Paper 50. The Planetary Princes / Secondary Lanonandek
Paper 51. The Planetary Adams / Secondary Lanonandek
Paper 52. Planetary Mortal Epochs / Mighty Messenger
Paper 53. The Lucifer Rebellion / Manovandet Melchizedek
Paper 54. Problems of the Lucifer Rebellion / Mighty Messenger
Paper 55. The Spheres of Light and Life / Mighty Messenger
Paper 56. Universal Unity / Mighty Messenger and Machiventa Melchizedek

PART III. THE HISTORY OF URANTIA
These papers were sponsored by a Corps of Local Universe Personalities acting by authority of Gabriel of Salvington.

Paper 57. The Origin of Urantia / Life Carrier
Paper 58. Life Establishment on Urantia / Life Carrier
Paper 59. The Marine-Life Era on Urantia / Life Carrier
Paper 60. Urantia during the Early Land-Life Era / Life Carrier
Paper 61. The Mammalian Era on Urantia / Life Carrier
Paper 62. The Dawn Races of Early Man / Life Carrier
Paper 63. The First Human Family / Life Carrier
Paper 64. The Evolutionary Races of Color / Life Carrier
Paper 65. The Overcontrol of Evolution / Life Carrier
Paper 66. The Planetary Prince of Urantia / Melchizedek
Paper 67. The Planetary Rebellion / Melchizedek
Paper 68. The Dawn of Civilization / Melchizedek
Paper 69. Primitive Human Institutions / Melchizedek
Paper 70. The Evolution of Human Government / Melchizedek
Paper 71. Development of the State / Melchizedek
Paper 72. Government on a Neighboring Planet / Melchizedek
Paper 73. The Garden of Eden / Solonia
Paper 74. Adam and Eve / Solonia
Paper 75. The Default of Adam and Eve / Solonia
Paper 76. The Second Garden / Solonia
Paper 77. The Midway Creatures / Archangel
Paper 78. The Violet Race after the Days of Adam / Archangel
Paper 79. Andite Expansion in the Orient / Archangel
Paper 80. Andite Expansion in the Occident / Archangel
Paper 81. Development of Modern Civilization / Archangel
Paper 82. The Evolution of Marriage / Chief of Seraphim
Paper 83. The Marriage Institution / Chief of Seraphim
Paper 84. Marriage and Family Life / Chief of Seraphim
Paper 85. The Origins of Worship / Brilliant Evening Star
Paper 86. Early Evolution of Religion / Brilliant Evening Star
Paper 87. The Ghost Cults / Brilliant Evening Star
Paper 88. Fetishes, Charms, and Magic / Brilliant Evening Star
Paper 89. Sin, Sacrifice, and Atonement / Brilliant Evening Star
Paper 90. Shamanism - Medicine Men and Priests / Melchizedek
Paper 91. The Evolution of Prayer / Chief of Midwayers
Paper 92. The Later Evolution of Religion / Melchizedek
Paper 93. Machiventa Melchizedek / Melchizedek
Paper 94. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Orient / Melchizedek
Paper 95. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Levant / Melchizedek
Paper 96. Yahweh - God of the Hebrews / Melchizedek
Paper 97. Evolution of the God Concept among the Hebrews / Melchizedek
Paper 98. The Melchizedek Teachings in the Occident / Melchizedek
Paper 99. Social Problems of Religion / Melchizedek
Paper 100. Religion in Human Experience / Melchizedek