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_ladybug_, you're in over your head here. And who is Stephen Richards?

If you knew someone who deliberately and willfully refused to obey God, would you say that person was foolish? And if someone is foolish, then they are a fool. Ipso facto. And there's nothing wrong with calling a fool, a fool. God wants you to be honest. Jesus did not mince any words here:

Mat_23:13  But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Mat_23:14  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Mat_23:16  Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
Mat_23:23  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Mat_23:25  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Mat_23:27  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat_23:29  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

And ladybug, there is no Hell. Most bibles have eliminated it. The Jews never had a word for Hell. It's an English bad translation.



[Edited 1/28/2017 7:29:29 PM ]

1/20/2017 12:57:56 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Urantiaists, how many of your 700,000 "creator sons" teach eugenics? We know you think Jesus did (the Catholic Church teaches that Jesus is the Prince of Peace Who loves all races equally, so I guess our view of Jesus is different from yours), but how many of the other "creator sons" do? Maybe it's fifty-fifty. Maybe 350,000 "creator sons" teach racial equality, equal protection of the law, and justice for all, and maybe 350,000 of them have created some of their creatures to be inferior and degenerate. What do you think? Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
1/20/2017 1:07:13 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	]You are a sick pathetic man, Ludlow. You assert it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons because that is what those who rejected and killed Jesus believed. And you assert that God ordered man to slaughter untold thousands of animals and even to kill Jesus to "show man how horrible sin is." Yet what you complain about is the UB saying that there are "somewhat" inferior and degenerate strains of "unidentified" humans for which reproduction should be curtailed in a humane fashion which they clearly leave up to man to identify and curtail if and when man chooses to do so. You are truly a sick man, Ludlow.
1/20/2017 2:23:15 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Urantiaists, how many of your 700,000 "creator sons" teach eugenics? There are no "creator sons" lower case in The Urantia Book so I wouldn't be able to attempt to answer your question. It's faulty. We know you think Jesus did Who is the "we" of whom you speak? (the Catholic Church teaches that Jesus is the Prince of Peace Who loves all races equally, The Urantia Book teaches that God loves all races equally. so I guess our view of Jesus is different from yours), but how many of the other "creator sons" do? I don't know anything about any creator sons lower case. Maybe it's fifty-fifty. Maybe 350,000 "creator sons" teach racial equality, equal protection of the law, and justice for all, and maybe 350,000 of them have created some of their creatures to be inferior and degenerate. What do you think? Maybe, little boy, maybe. I think you are a very, very sick man. That's what I think.
1/20/2017 2:24:53 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	The concepts of eugenics and equality are mutually exclusive.
1/20/2017 2:55:30 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	FJO, doesn't the very fact that you want to capitalize the phrase "creator sons" show that you are these "sons" as hods?
1/20/2017 9:10:27 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: FJO, doesn't the very fact that you want to capitalize the phrase "creator sons" show that you are these "sons" as hods? There are no hods in The Urantia Book. hod noun a builder's V-shaped open trough on a pole, used for carrying bricks and other building materials. a coal scuttle. Lud, doesn't the very fact that you capitalize the word "Father" to denote the priests of your sect show that you hold those "Fathers" as gods? Don't lie now. They, and dead saints are all gods in your catholic sect.
1/20/2017 9:17:54 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: The concepts of eugenics and equality are mutually exclusive. The concepts of eugenic are the improvement of the human race and has nothing to do with "equality." And no, Lud, not everyone is born with the same abilities, mental or physical. Did you ever go to school? Do you remember taking tests? Those tests are and were, a testimony to the fact that we are not all equal. Even a child can see that. Some got A's and B's on their tests and some got D's and F's. Some had to be held back a year and some had to attend make up classes in the summer. And some never graduated at all. If everyone was equal, everyone would have the same test scores, and they do not. Grow up.
1/20/2017 10:21:06 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	So we should sterilize kids who get Ds and Fs? Or gas them in concentration camps?
1/20/2017 10:29:56 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: So we should sterilize kids who get Ds and Fs? Or gas them in concentration camps? If you think that, you should bring your views to the attention of the relevant authorities. Otherwise, you should probably stop lying by that method. In fact, you should stop all your lying by insinuation.
1/20/2017 11:19:07 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	What do we do with those kids who get Ds and Fs, especially the mentally retarded ones? After all, the great and wonderful Urantia Book calls those kinds of kids inferior and degenerate, doesn't it?
1/21/2017 2:53:17 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: What do we do with those kids who get Ds and Fs, especially the mentally retarded ones? After all, the great and wonderful Urantia Book calls those kinds of kids inferior and degenerate, doesn't it? You really should stop this sort of lying. It can't possibly be good for your soul or your survival chances. Is it because you know you may already have sealed your fate by repeatedly and willfully disobeying God and calling the gentle and kind leader of your church an utter idiot and so you figure, what the hell, you may as well spend your last days lying? Do you really think that God approves of you making up lies like you do? And you know you do. You're not so clever that everyone can't see what you're doing. You may think you are, but you're not.
1/21/2017 11:24:19 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	Ludlow is a sick pathetic liar who is clearly experiencing mind and personality disruption.
1/21/2017 2:45:49 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: What do we do with those kids who get Ds and Fs, especially the mentally retarded ones? After all, the great and wonderful Urantia Book calls those kinds of kids inferior and degenerate, doesn't it? Lud, do you confess these sorts of lies above to your priest? You KNOW they are lies because you haven't read the book and you've created what I suppose you think are clever lies, but they are lies nevertheless. As the leader of your church who you are supposed to believe is the vicar of Christ on earth says, you "go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil." It's almost as if Francis is watching you lie. He's nailed it spot on. Do you confess this to your priest, the lies and evil and calumny that you do here? Does he ask you what sort of lies you tell? Do you tell him that you just make stuff up and smear it around, that sort of lies? You don't tell him, do you? Are you blind to your own sin? You make up these lies for one reason only, and that is to make other people angry. That is surely a sin as well, deliberately provoking others to anger with lies and false accusations. Do you confess these things every two weeks when you go to confession? You don't, do you? You're blind to your own sin, isn't that right? If you confessed them, and were truly repentant, we would not see these same lies and this same lying technique reappearing, but we do. Over and over you make up lies out of thin air and smear them around trying to anger others.
1/21/2017 3:08:13 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	The Urantia Book says that some people come from inferior and degenerate strains. The famous eugenicists Margaret Sanger, Adolf Hitler, William Sadler, and the Kellogg family identified Africans as being these people, with Hitler adding Jews, Slavs, and those born with handicaps. All I have done here is ask you, KB, and other Urantiaists, do you agree with the above eugenicists, or do you think that the inferior and degenerate strains are some other race or ethnicity? Which is the calumny--to ask questions like I am, or to go around calling people inferior and degenerate like Urantiaists do?
1/21/2017 4:15:41 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: The Urantia Book says that some people come from inferior and degenerate strains. The famous eugenicists Margaret Sanger, Adolf Hitler, William Sadler, and the Kellogg family identified Africans as being these people, with Hitler adding Jews, Slavs, and those born with handicaps. All I have done here is ask you, KB, and other Urantiaists, do you agree with the above eugenicists, or do you think that the inferior and degenerate strains are some other race or ethnicity? Which is the calumny--to ask questions like I am, or to go around calling people inferior and degenerate like Urantiaists do? No one I know is going around calling anyone inferior and degenerate, so you just lied again. And you lie by association by mentioning Hitler and Sadler side by side. Shame, shame. Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage which asserts that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—??that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler. -Wikipedia You are a liar but you don't see your own lying sin. Confess your lying to a priest and vow to stop lying about other people and their beliefs. And don't forget to tell him honestly that the reason you do it is to provoke people to anger. Eugenics is the science of the improvement of the human race and the betterment of the human condition and I believe those are good and Godly things and that God wants us to improve ourselves and the human condition and I agree with God. "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Mat_5:48) When did you meet William Sadler and the Kellogg family where they told you that they identified Afrians as whatever your convoluted sentence above says? It's a sign of a lie when you construct a sentence in the messy way you did above. Please confess your lying to a priest and acknowledge to him that you do it to provoke others to anger. You are a sick, sick man, Lud
1/21/2017 4:52:32 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Eugenics is the "science" of racism. Instead of just arbitrarily dragging Hitler's name into this, eugenics is the main ingredient of the Nazi philosophy. Who says some races are inferior and degenerate? Two books that I know of do---Mein Kempf and the Urantia Book.
1/21/2017 5:58:34 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	Ludlow you are a sick pathetic liar who is clearly experiencing mind and personality disruption.
1/21/2017 8:29:18 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Which is the calumny--to ask questions like I am, or to go around calling people inferior and degenerate like Urantiaists do? Is that how you confess your sins of lying to the priest? You say, Father, I have lied and committed calumny but I'm really not guilty because other people go around calling people inferior and degenerate and I can't confess their sins for them so I really don't think I have sinned with all my lying and making up stories about them and their religion. You are the worst Catholic I have ever seen. And have you discussed with your confessor your belief and your public statements that the Vicar of Christ on Earth is an "utter idiot" and the worst Vicar of Christ on Earth in 500 years? Do you tell your confessor these dark things you believe about pope Francis? You need to see a psychiatrist.
1/21/2017 8:29:48 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Please identify exactly who are the "inferior" and "degenerate" strains the Urantia Book warns us against? And if eugenics is a legitimate science where can one go to get a degree in eugenics?
1/21/2017 8:45:20 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Eugenics is the "science" of racism. Instead of just arbitrarily dragging Hitler's name into this, eugenics is the main ingredient of the Nazi philosophy. Who says some races are inferior and degenerate? Two books that I know of do---Mein Kempf and the Urantia Book. You are a liar, you lie again, not knowing what you're talking about. The Urantia Book does not say that any races are "degenerate." Does lying run in your family? Is that what "congenital liar" means? Please, go to your confessor and tell him you are guilty of calumny and other such evil as pope Francis has said. And tell him too that you think pope Francis is an utter idiot and the worst pope in 500 years. Don't hide any of this from your confessor. You ask, "Who says some races are inferior and degenerate?" and then you answer with two book titles, not realizing that books are not "whos" at all. It's up to societies to determine who, if anyone is inferior and degenerate, whether you like it or not. "Who" is a personal pronoun referencing a person. Books are not people.
1/21/2017 9:02:11 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Please identify exactly who are the "inferior" and "degenerate" strains the Urantia Book warns us against? It's not my province to make that call. Society, and societies, will decide such things. You keep barking up that same tree, like a little kid who insists on getting his way, but there's nothing there. And if eugenics is a legitimate science where can one go to get a degree in eugenics? I have no idea. Probably a degree in biology would be a good start. Do you have one? Do you know any biologists? Maybe they could steer you in the right direction.
1/22/2017 12:23:44 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	By "society" do you mean the government, or do you nean just the prevailing public opinion? If German society 1933-45 decides that Jews are inferior and degenerate, does that make them, in God's eyes, inferior and degenerate? If southern U.S. society decides that Africans are inferior and degenerate, does that make them inferior and degenerate? Eugenics is evil.
1/22/2017 10:45:34 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	You are a sick pathetic man, Ludlow. You assert it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons because that is what those who rejected and killed Jesus believed. And you assert that God ordered man to slaughter untold thousands of animals and even to kill Jesus to "show man how horrible sin is." Yet what you complain about is the UB saying that there are "somewhat" inferior and degenerate strains of "unidentified" humans for which reproduction should be curtailed in a humane fashion which they clearly leave up to man to identify and curtail if and when man chooses to do so. You are truly a sick man, Ludlow.
1/22/2017 2:04:33 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	so·ci·e·ty noun 1. the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community. "drugs, crime, and other dangers to society" synonyms: the community, the (general) public, the people, the population; More
1/22/2017 2:10:34 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: By "society" do you mean the government, or do you nean just the prevailing public opinion? so·ci·e·ty noun 1. the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community. "drugs, crime, and other dangers to society" synonyms: the community, the (general) public, the people, the population; More If German society 1933-45 decides that Jews are inferior and degenerate, does that make them, in God's eyes, inferior and degenerate? If southern U.S. society decides that Africans are inferior and degenerate, does that make them inferior and degenerate? No, of course not, little boy. It just means that society has made a determination. And society has the right to do that. Eugenics is evil. You are a simple minded, sick man. Eugenics is the science of the improvement of the human race and the betterment of the human condition. Only Satan or his mouthpiece such as yourself would say that the improvement of the human race and the betterment of the human condition is evil. God wants us to do what we can to improve ourselves and the human race. "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Mat_5:48)
1/22/2017 2:15:45 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Quote from followjesusonly: so·ci·e·ty noun 1. the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community. "drugs, crime, and other dangers to society" synonyms: the community, the (general) public, the people, the population; More So German society 1933-45 can decide that Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, and Asians are inferior and degenerate, and God goes along with that, and southern U.S. society can decide Africans are inferior and degenerate, and God goes along with that? God becomes a racist and a Nazi if the prevailing mob mentality is Nazism or racism? Do you really believe that?
1/22/2017 2:23:36 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: So German society 1933-45 can decide that Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, and Asians are inferior and degenerate, Yes, they can, obviously. However, they are part of the larger society of The World. and God goes along with that, So you say. and southern U.S. society can decide Africans are inferior and degenerate, Yes, they can, obviously. However, they are part of the larger society of the United States. and God goes along with that? So you say. You debate like a little boy. God goes along with the idea that societies have the right to decide whatever they decide about whatever they decide to decide about. God becomes a racist and a Nazi if the prevailing mob mentality is Nazism or racism? Do you really believe that? No. You said it using your little boy simple minded logic.
1/24/2017 3:13:13 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	You have some very evil philosphisies, FJO. Do you have a picture of Hitler on your wall somewhere?
1/24/2017 9:35:45 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: You trust then in a wimpy God Who never punishes anybody for anything. That's foolish, KB. Learn to trust in the Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, shed for us on Calvary. You are a sick man and a pathetic excuse for a Christian, Ludlow. God is not in the punishment business. Man suffers from the consequences of his own ungodly actions and your murderous and blasphemous teachings about God in rejection of the teachings of Jesus is resulting in you becoming increasingly spiritually unreal. You are truly a sick/corrupt man to claim God is "wimpy" or a "marshmallow" if He doesn't order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those reasons, Ludlow. You are so warped/corrupt of mind you can't bring yourself to honestly answer questions but I will ask these two again anyway. If you believe Jesus' death was necessary as a blood sacrifice to atone for the sin of man why do you say it was to "show us how horrible sin is" Ludlow? If you believe Jesus' death was necessary as a blood sacrifice to atone for the sin of man then why didn't Jesus come as said sacrifice before God supposedly found it necessary to destroy everyone in the world except Noah and his family in a worldwide flood?
1/24/2017 11:56:23 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	The judge at a criminal trial---is he in the punishment business? Not really. The judge is in the justice business, and punishment is a necessary part of justice. That's the way God is. The parole board---is it in the punishment business? Not really. The parole board gives convicted criminals a second chance, if they have remorse for their crimes and have shown evidence that they mean to reform. If a convict comes before the parole board and mocks the judicial system, mocks his victims, and shows no remorse whatsoever, he is denied parole. That's the way God is. God is very good, gentle, and kind to those who repent of their sins and give up their sins, and literally hell on those who don't. That's the way God is, how He really is, contrary to what a lot of people think.
1/24/2017 12:57:14 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	God is not like you, Ludlow. God does not horribly punish/torture to the death anyone. God has the power of resurrection and those like yourself who refuse to be spiritually led and who mock God and adamantly continue to teach murderous things about God in rejection of the teachings of Jesus may well be deemed not worthy of resurrection and thus cease to exist. Why have you not responded to the rest of my post, Ludlow? You are truly a sick/corrupt man to claim God is "wimpy" or a "marshmallow" if He doesn't order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those reasons, Ludlow. You are so warped/corrupt of mind you can't bring yourself to honestly answer questions but I will ask these two again anyway. If you believe Jesus' death was necessary as a blood sacrifice to atone for the sin of man why do you say it was to "show us how horrible sin is" Ludlow? If you believe Jesus' death was necessary as a blood sacrifice to atone for the sin of man then why didn't Jesus come as said sacrifice before God supposedly found it necessary to destroy everyone in the world except Noah and his family in a worldwide flood? [Edited 1/24/2017 12:57:54 PM ]
1/24/2017 1:29:22 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	God loves us all and would never allow any of us to cease to exist. We will all exist for eternity, either in Heaven or in Hell.
1/24/2017 2:06:08 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
slowpoke7 Hendersonville, TN 76, joined Feb. 2011	THANK YOU JESUS for shedding your precious blood on the cross for sinners like me.
1/24/2017 4:22:05 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: God loves us all and would never allow any of us to cease to exist. We will all exist for eternity, either in Heaven or in Hell. What a deranged mind you have to assert God loves us so much never to allow any of us to cease to exist but rather to torture those in hell for eternity.
1/24/2017 5:04:10 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	If you love someone you don't just wipeout their whole existence. God's love is so great that He actually loves the souls in Hell, although they don't love Him back. The fires of Hell are actually the fires of God's love, experienced by the souls in Hell as painful.
1/24/2017 10:13:37 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: God loves us all and would never allow any of us to cease to exist. We will all exist for eternity, either in Heaven or in Hell. "The wages of sin is death." Rom 6:23 death: the action or fact of dying or being killed; the end of the life of a person or organism. death is dead. The wages of sin is dead, God allows us our freewill and you are freewilling yourself into personality extinction by your willful refusal to obey God. You become more and more unreal each time you give God the finger and disobey Him. No, we will not all exist for eternity. That is a doctrine of Lud or of who knows? Only those who love God and love their neighbor as they love themselves will have eternal life. Only those who do the will of the Father will have eternal life. "Not every one who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21) And of course, there is no Hell. Hell, it's not even in your NAB cathlick bible.
1/24/2017 10:24:05 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: If you love someone you don't just wipeout their whole existence. God's love is so great that He actually loves the souls in Hell, although they don't love Him back. The fires of Hell are actually the fires of God's love, experienced by the souls in Hell as painful. There is no Hell, and God doesn't cause people to stop existing, He doesn't wipe them out, but He allows it if they show that's what they want by becoming unreal, as you are, refusing to obey Him. It's your freewill to kill yourself. God will respect your choice to end your personality. Who knows exactly when the point of no return is? Maybe it's too late for you already. Give God the finger again the next time you call a priest "Father." Defy Him. Again.
1/24/2017 10:26:15 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from slowpoke7: THANK YOU JESUS for shedding your precious blood on the cross for sinners like me. Too bad you Christians don't preach The Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus told you to preach.
1/24/2017 10:28:44 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: God loves us all and would never allow any of us to cease to exist. We will all exist for eternity, either in Heaven or in Hell. You are a fool shilling for Satan. God loves us all and respects our freewill to terminate our personality if we choose to do so. That's how much He loves us.
1/24/2017 10:31:47 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: You have some very evil philosphisies, FJO. Do you have a picture of Hitler on your wall somewhere? And you are the saddest excuse for a Catholic I have ever known. I agree with what the pope says about you: "We Catholics have some — and not some, many — who believe they possess the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil. They do evil. I say this because it is my Church." [The pope] further added that "fundamentalism is more idolatry than actual religion, warning that 'ideas and false certainties' can take the place of faith, love, and God." -pope Francis
1/24/2017 10:35:16 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: The judge at a criminal trial---is he in the punishment business? Not really. The judge is in the justice business, and punishment is a necessary part of justice. That's the way God is. The parole board---is it in the punishment business? Not really. The parole board gives convicted criminals a second chance, if they have remorse for their crimes and have shown evidence that they mean to reform. If a convict comes before the parole board and mocks the judicial system, mocks his victims, and shows no remorse whatsoever, he is denied parole. That's the way God is. God is very good, gentle, and kind to those who repent of their sins and give up their sins, and literally hell on those who don't. That's the way God is, how He really is, contrary to what a lot of people think. You have some very evil philosphisies (sic), Lud. Do you have a picture of Lucifer on your wall somewhere?
1/24/2017 11:54:39 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	I believe in a God of justice, Who tempers that justice with mercy. How is that evil? [Edited 1/24/2017 11:55:10 PM ]
1/25/2017 2:12:36 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: I believe in a God of justice, Who tempers that justice with mercy. How is that evil? You do evil by "dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation." You are an evil man. You are a mouthpiece for Satan and you willfully refuse to obey God. And you suggest, Satanically, that God does not respect our freewill and that God will not allow us to die but rather will torture us in Hell for eternity. That is Satanic teaching.
1/25/2017 3:10:31 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Jesus taught that there is a Hell, that there is fire there, and that no one who goes there ever gets out. Was Jesus engaged in satanic teaching?
1/25/2017 6:31:20 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	[]Quote from ludlowlowell:[/][]Jesus taught that there is a Hell, that there is fire there, and that no one who goes there ever gets out. Was Jesus engaged in satanic teaching?[/] =============================================================================== Jesus never taught that. Even your Satanic cathlick bible, the NAB, doesn't have "Hell" in it. The [Catholics] follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous. -Joseph Goebbels
1/26/2017 2:37:00 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	The NAB does not use the word "hell" but it does describe a place of eternal fire. The much superior Catholic Bible the Douay Rheims version does use the word "hell". See the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in either version.
1/26/2017 3:18:11 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: The NAB does not use the word "hell" but it does describe a place of eternal fire. But it doesn't use the word "Hell," right? Why don't you ask your priest why it doesn't use the word "Hell" and while you're at it, tell him that you have publicly stated that the pope is an utter idiot? The much superior Catholic Bible the Douay Rheims version Oh, so you're now an expert on Cathlick bible version too, right? The version that uses the word you want it to use, is "much superior." Do you have any idea how full of feces you are? See the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in either version. It's a "parable." And it was tailored for an audience 2000 years ago. For an audience today Jesus would not use that parable. The parable you mention, like all parables, teaches a moral lesson. It has nothing to do with "Hell."
1/26/2017 10:09:09 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	The parable about Lazarus and the rich man is all about Hell, and how people who don't do good works go to Hell. In this parable Jesus explains that there is fire in Hell, thst the fire is everlasting, and that no one who goes there ever gets out.
1/27/2017 6:43:11 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	You're still talking with your little boy brain. Single minded and simple. No, that parable is not about Hell. There is no Hell. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. (1Co_13:11) But you say for yourself, "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I still think with my child brain."
1/27/2017 7:29:52 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Re-read the parable and see what it says.
1/27/2017 8:02:32 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Re-read the parable and see what it says. IT'S A PARABLE! Goodness sakes you are a blockhead. Learn something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_man_and_Lazarus
1/27/2017 8:05:18 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
_ladybug_ Paragould, AR 66, joined Sep. 2013	GotQuestions?Org Eugenics .... A social movement that supports the supposed improvement of the human population via selective breeding and other means. The Bible does not specifically mention eugenics, but the idea behind eugenics—that man can better himself by ridding the world of “undesireable” people—is definitely not biblical. God told mankind to “be fruitful and multiply” (Genesis 1:28; 9:1, 7). No exception to that command is given in Scripture. In fact, King Solomon wrote in Psalm 127:3–5 that children are a heritage from the Lord and that the fruit of the womb is a reward from Him. God gives us life and numbers our days (Job 33:4; 14:5). The sovereign Lord determines whether we live or die. For social engineers to usurp God’s authority in order to create a self-defined “master race” is evil. We are to obey God, not men (Acts 5:29). Eugenics is a meritless and immoral social engineering experiment with dubious chances for “success,” as defined by its supporters. Scientific madmen abrogate the authority of God and seek to create their own utopia on Earth. Through abortion and euthanasia, eugenics is simply murder. Job 24:14 says, “When daylight is gone, the murderer rises up, kills the poor and needy, and in the night steals forth like a thief.” This is the role of eugenicist: killing the poor and needy and those he deems “unworthy”; preventing a “poor quality of life” (in his estimation) by taking life; denying men’s liberty; and playing God. “As he went along, [Jesus] saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, ‘Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?’ ‘Neither this man nor his parents sinned,’ said Jesus, ‘but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him’” (John 9:1–3). Who are we to decide who does or does not display the works of God? The Bible tells us to defend the weak (Matthew 25:35–36; Acts 20:35), not to kill them. So much name calling in this group! Not only does it get tiresome to read, it's not true Christian behavior .... And a very dangerous thing to do! 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ***‘Raca,’ (***definition below) is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell. Matthew 5:22 NIV ***Raca per Vine's Concise Dictionary of The Bible Raka is an Aramaic word akin to the Heb. req, "empty," the first a being due to a Galilean change. In the KJV of 1611 it was spelled racha[/]; in the edition of 1638, raca. It was a word of utter contempt, signifying "empty," intellectually rather than morally, "empty-headed," like Abimelech's hirelings, and the "vain" man of Jas.2:20; condemned by Christ, Matt. 5:22. Quote .... Putting someone down with name calling reveals your own low self-esteem. Stephen Richards
1/28/2017 9:12:44 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	@ ladybug Have you read the Bible? How is it you appear not to know that the Bible is rampant with God supposedly ordering the destruction of nations and the slaughter of men, women, children and infants he supposedly found displeasure with so the Israelites could prosper? The Urantia Book does not advocate the killing of anyone and its single statement about the desirability of mankind to control the reproduction of the "more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks" of the human race is left solely in the hands of mankind to decide if and when mankind ever does.
1/28/2017 7:26:15 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from _ladybug_: GotQuestions?Org Eugenics .... A social movement that supports the supposed improvement of the human population via selective breeding and other means. You'd be better off getting your definitions from a dictionary rather than from "GotQuestions.org" eu·gen·ics noun the science of improving a human population by controlled breeding to increase the occurrence of desirable heritable characteristics. The Bible does not specifically mention eugenics, but the idea behind eugenics—that man can better himself by ridding the world of “undesireable” people—is definitely not biblical. Yes, it is: "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Mat_5:48) Anyway, this is not the bible study group. This is actually the Christian group for all those who love and follow Jesus, or supposed to. God told mankind to “be fruitful and multiply” (Genesis 1:28; 9:1, 7). No exception to that command is given in Scripture. In fact, King Solomon wrote in Psalm 127:3–5 that children are a heritage from the Lord and that the fruit of the womb is a reward from Him. Indeed He did. And just think of all those cathlick priests and nuns who, supposedly, are not obeying God concerning that. Eugenics is a meritless and immoral social engineering experiment with dubious chances for “success,” as defined by its supporters. Hard to say, but that's up to society to decide whenever it wishes to improve the human race and the human condition. Laws against brothers and sisters and fathers and daughters and mother and son reproducing together are eugenics laws. Should we do away with them? Scientific madmen abrogate the authority of God and seek to create their own utopia on Earth. Through abortion and euthanasia, eugenics is simply murder. Job 24:14 says, “When daylight is gone, the murderer rises up, kills the poor and needy, and in the night steals forth like a thief.” This is the role of eugenicist: killing the poor and needy and those he deems “unworthy”; preventing a “poor quality of life” (in his estimation) by taking life; denying men’s liberty; and playing God. Who wrote that for you? Where did it come from? Which "eugenicists" are killing the poor and needy? Name them. An no, "eugenics" is no simply murder. Get a grip, ladybug. So much name calling in this group! Not only does it get tiresome to read, it's not true Christian behavior .... And a very dangerous thing to do! 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ***‘Raca,’ (***definition below) is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell. Matthew 5:22 NIV ***Raca per Vine's Concise Dictionary of The Bible Raka is an Aramaic word akin to the Heb. req, "empty," the first a being due to a Galilean change. In the KJV of 1611 it was spelled racha[/]; in the edition of 1638, raca. It was a word of utter contempt, signifying "empty," intellectually rather than morally, "empty-headed," like Abimelech's hirelings, and the "vain" man of Jas.2:20; condemned by Christ, Matt. 5:22. Quote .... Putting someone down with name calling reveals your own low self-esteem. Stephen Richards
1/28/2017 7:48:28 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Apparently all of ladybug's material came from somewhere else, GotQuestions.org. She went there and copied other people's opinions and posted them here. Mission Statement of Got Questions Ministries: "Got Questions Ministries seeks to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by providing biblical, applicable, and timely answers to spiritually related questions through an internet presence." They said: "This is the role of eugenicist: killing the poor and needy and those he deems “unworthy”" Actually, the above is wrong, but it's what you'd expect from a biased site. It's society's role, not any one "eugenicist" to determine who to cull from the herd. Got Questions Got Questions is an online fundamentalist Christian ministry which devotes itself to providing answers to many of the big questions surrounding Christian doctrines, general religion, science, and what the Bible says about such things. It was founded by S. Michael Houdmann in February 2002. The website claims to have over 300,000 questions answered, and says that 75% of all questions asked will be answered "instantly." To no surprise, Got Questions denies Darwinian evolution[1], supports Young Earth Creationism and seems to be highly skeptical of anthropogenic global warming[2]. The ministry is also highly supportive of the state of Israel.[3] Further the website claims that "Secularism permeates all facets of our society."[4] Of course Christianity would never do that. Also Got Questions has apparently found the foolproof methodology of proving Christianity to be the only real correct religion among the approximately 4000 which exist today.[5] This haphazard "framework" usually misrepresents every position that conflicts with theirs, among them being that Agnostics don't believe in absolute truth, Hinduism being Pantheistic, and most importantly uses the Cosmological Argument as the ultimate "Gotcha!" in its supposedly conclusive proof.[6] Definition of False Teacher: One who presumes to teach in the Name of the Lord when God has not sent him. False Teacher - S.Michael Houdmann [Founder of GotQuestions.org] Judgment of GotQuestions.org http://www.thepathoftruth.com/false-teachers/s.michael-houdmann.htm GotQuestions presents itself as the one-stop shop for answers to all your questions about God and the Bible, from a Christian perspective. We show that this is not true - their perspective is their own, one born of flesh, not the Spirit of God. His thoughts and ways are not men’s, and men’s are not His, no matter if they claim to represent Him.
1/28/2017 7:54:28 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Eugenics is evil. Eugenics is Nazi.
1/28/2017 7:57:59 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Eugenics is evil. Eugenics is Nazi. You are an ignorant, ignorant man.
1/29/2017 9:42:07 AM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
kb2222 Jacksonville, FL 76, joined Apr. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: Eugenics is evil. Eugenics is Nazi. Have you not actually read the Bible, Ludlow? How is it you appear not to know that the Bible is rampant with God supposedly ordering the destruction of nations and the slaughter of men, women, children and infants he supposedly found displeasure with so the Israelites could prosper? The Urantia Book does not advocate the killing of anyone and its single statement about the desirability of mankind to control the reproduction of the "more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks" of the human race is left solely in the hands of mankind to decide if and when mankind ever does. You are a sick, arrogant and blasphemous man, Ludlow, who truly appears to enjoy your depravity.
1/29/2017 4:31:16 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from kb2222: Have you not actually read the Bible, Ludlow? How is it you appear not to know that the Bible is rampant with God supposedly ordering the destruction of nations and the slaughter of men, women, children and infants he supposedly found displeasure with so the Israelites could prosper? The Urantia Book does not advocate the killing of anyone and its single statement about the desirability of mankind to control the reproduction of the "more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks" of the human race is left solely in the hands of mankind to decide if and when mankind ever does. You are a sick, arrogant and blasphemous man, Ludlow, who truly appears to enjoy your depravity. I believe he does enjoy his evilness. He seems to wallow in it like a pig in a trough. As The Urantia Book says, "It requires a great and noble character, having started out wrong, to turn about and go right. All too often one’s own mind tends to justify continuance in the path of error when once it is entered upon."
1/29/2017 5:22:02 PM	How many "creator sons" teach eugenics?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Quote from kb2222: Have you not actually read the Bible, Ludlow? How is it you appear not to know that the Bible is rampant with God supposedly ordering the destruction of nations and the slaughter of men, women, children and infants he supposedly found displeasure with so the Israelites could prosper? The Urantia Book does not advocate the killing of anyone and its single statement about the desirability of mankind to control the reproduction of the "more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks" of the human race is left solely in the hands of mankind to decide if and when mankind ever does. You are a sick, arrogant and blasphemous man, Ludlow, who truly appears to enjoy your depravity. Bible: says unrepentant sinners will be punished. Urantia Book: says the "inferior" and "degenerate" people, who were born that way, should be punished.

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