Jesus never said that all one had to do was listen to the Holy Spirit. Nowhere in the Nible does it say that. Acts 8:31 teaches that we need teachers, as does common sense.

Jesus also never said that scripture alone was a sufficient teacher, no foes scripture itself say that. In the contrary 2 Thessalonians 2:15 specifically says that we are to adhere to both the written scripture and the oral traditions of the apostles, the leaders of the Church.

"Study to show thyself approved by God" is very sound advice. We should study not the Bible, but all the Catholic Church's teachings. In particular, we should study the early Christian writers, the "fathers of the Church", because most of them lived only a few hundred years after Christ and were in a better position to know what Jesus meant when He said this or that. Some of them, like Polycarp and Ignatius of Antioch, knew Peter and John personally.

"Study to show thyself approved of God" proves that just sitting around waiting for the Holy Spirit to tell us something, like the Quakers did, just won't work.

One minute you say listen to the teachers. The next minute you say don't listen to the teachers. Which is it?

(Hint: the Bible is full of real and apparent contradictions, and the only way to make sense of it all is to go by the teachings of our holy mother the Church.)

Not sure who said this: "The hardest part of learning radical theology, is getting rid of what you learned before".

But its so true!

and they are so busy trying to tell every one what is the only truth, because they were told that by a "teacher" and memorized it? That they forget Jesus asked questions more than he ever told us the answer.

Sad.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one goes to the Father except by me."

--Jesus Christ (John 14:6)

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Prosperity preachers claim private planes prevent flying with 'demons' on commercial airlines
by Gregory Tomlin | 01 January, 2016
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(Believer's Voice of Victory/Kenneth Copeland Ministries)
Prosperity preachers Kenneth Copeland and Jesse Duplantis on the Believer's Voice of Victory television program Dec. 30.
FORT WORTH, Texas (Christian Examiner) – Kenneth Copeland and Jesse Duplantis – both multi-millionaire preachers of the "name it and claim it" prosperity gospel – have taken to the air to explain their need for private luxury jets, in part because they travel to so many locations weekly, but also so they won't have to fly with "demons."

Duplantis said in a five minute video clip Dec. 30 (begin at 2:08) that God revealed to him the need for the private jet in the midst of a flight in his plane, just after a meeting with fellow prosperity preacher Creflo Dollar – the minister who this summer produced a slick marketing video asking his followers to donate $60 million for a new jet.

The board of directors for Dollar's ministry later apologized for the video, but insisted the luxury aircraft was a legitimate need for the minister.

Duplantis said in the segment, which originally aired on the Kenneth Copeland Ministries website, that God asked him if he liked his plane.

"As I was going home, the Lord, real quickly, he said, 'Jesse, do you like your plane?'" Duplantis said. "I thought, 'That's an odd statement.' I said, 'Well, certainly, Lord.' He said, 'Do you really like it?' And I thought, 'Well, yes, Lord.' Then he said this: 'So that's it? You gonna let your faith stagnate?'"

Duplantis said the comment shocked him, causing him to unbuckle his seatbelt and stand up in the plane. The pilots, he then said, asked him if he needed something.

"I said, 'No, no, I'm talking to God right now.'"

The message, Duplantis began to explain, was that God wanted him to have more. Copeland then interrupted Duplantis, saying, "You can't do that [talk to God] on an [commercial] airplane."

"The world is in such a shape that we can't get there without this. We've got to have this [private jet]," Copeland said. "That's why we're on that [private] airplane. We can talk to God."

Copeland said when he first started as a minister, he often flew with Oral Roberts. He said Roberts, who founded Oral Roberts University, viewed his private plane as a sanctuary. He expected everyone to be quiet on the plane. No one was allowed to speak to Roberts unless he spoke first, Copeland said.

"Now Oral [Roberts] used to fly airlines," Copeland said. "But even back then it got to the place where it was agitating his spirit, people coming up to him; he had become famous, and they wanted him to pray for them and all that. You can't manage that today, this dope-filled world, and get in a long tube with a bunch of demons. It's deadly."

Copeland concluded that he and Duplantis, along with a litany of other prosperity preachers, were in the "soul business."

"We got a dying world around us. We got a dying nation around us. And we can't even get there on an airline," Copeland said.

I was thinking about this jet:



Only $135,000 - to bad it sold....grrr..

http://www.westernaviation.com/aircraft/1978-saberliner-60/


I'll beat dem demons yet..

Faith without works is dead. If faith was all we needed, Satan and all the fallen angels would be saved, because they all believe that Jesus is the Holy One of God. See Mark 1:24.

Scripture, you say? The Catholic Church is the entity that put the scripture together in the first place. Every time you open your Bible youvshould thank the Catholic Church, because if it weren't for the Catholic Church there would be no Bible. What is the New Testament, except a history of the early days of the Catholic Church?

Furthermore, the Trinity doctrine brings together in a coherent manner the great truths about God’s historical, redemptive actions (completed in and through the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). For example, (1) the Father (the first person of the Trinity) sends the Son into the world to offer a propitiatory sacrifice on the cross; that is, a sacrifice that both appeases the Father’s just wrath against sin and extends the Father’s love and mercy by allowing repentant sinners to escape divine judgment. (2) The Incarnate Son (the second person of the Trinity) is able to provide this atonement because he is both God and man. The God-man conquers death, sin, and hell through his glorious resurrection from the dead. (3) The Holy Spirit (the third person of the Trinity) is directly responsible for the repentant sinner’s new birth in Christ through regeneration, and the believer’s life journey of sanctification. The three divine members of the Trinity make the entire plan of redemption possible.