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2/3/2017 11:08:45 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

rambo_was_real
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I don't understand why they are so upset? And I don't think they understand why either. So quick to tell me how they feel and that they know on any other topic. Duckin Dodgin Dems.


I just want an honest answer from a leftist on what good they see in bringing in refugees, and why Muslim refugees are so special.




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2/3/2017 11:13:46 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
Yasureoktoo
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Because few people knw what the religion of Islam is all about.

They, for the most part think, it's about God, the same god as the Christians.

They could not be further from the truth.

2/3/2017 11:23:10 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

rambo_was_real
Over 2,000 Posts (3,841)
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Right.

I think these libs are curious.

Libs be like...."Islam Huh? A bullshit religion that isn't associated with a white man for a God. Says you can lie cheat and steal when dealing with the infidels? Now this sounds like the religion for my crooked ass!"

2/3/2017 11:27:55 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
cupocheer
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Why don't you go climb a tree and claim the world as yours.

2/3/2017 11:28:20 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
61falcon
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Why are you disagreeing with the orange orangutan, and saying this is a ban against MUSLIMS???There are Christians,Jews and I,m sure some other religions in those countries.The important thing is our CONSTITUTION forbids excluding people from our country because of race, creed, color, or country of national origin.

2/3/2017 11:42:23 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
amusicluvr
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Fool. If they can do it to Moslems today, they can do it to Baptists tomorrow, Pentecostals next week, etc. America was founded by people fleeing from such religious war mentality BS. How would you like a nice Catholic President to outlaw Protestantism?

Letting Moslem refugees-who are fleeing from Moslem terrorism-in here gives us allies in fighting the terrorists. Who better to infiltrate a Moslem terrorist cell than a Moslem non-terrorist American? Where to get such Americans? From Moslem refugees we let in, and treat well. Many of the best secret agents we had against Germany's NAZIs in WW2 were German immigrant refugees who fled Hitler's regime. Einstein was a German Jew scientist, who fled NAZI-ism, and settled in The USA, and convinced our leaders that Germany would develop an A-Bomb if we did not build one first. As such, Einstein's urgings led to our working on an A-Bomb, of our own and our bombing of the German labs which were woking on their A-bomb. Many Americans-during the 1930s, and 1940s-were against letting German refugees into America, but letting them in saved us. Perhaps some Moslem refugee, or his / her child born here, will perform a similar service for us against Islamic Terrorism.

Conversely, keeping such immigrants out may create more enemies for us than we need.

2/3/2017 11:51:40 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

longbobby
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Quote from amusicluvr:
Fool. If they can do it to Moslems today, they can do it to Baptists tomorrow, Pentecostals next week, etc. America was founded by people fleeing from such religious war mentality BS. How would you like a nice Catholic President to outlaw Protestantism?
--------------------------------------

They can do it to j()()'s too.

Maybe you haven't noticed but President Trump is shutting down each aspect of the J()() agenda in America.

What did you think "draining the swamp" mean't?

2/3/2017 11:54:21 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

longbobby
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2/4/2017 12:03:23 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
thread_killer
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Leftists are hopin', that muslims will use
them as pugees.

2/4/2017 12:05:13 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

longbobby
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Quote from The Minister of Propaganda: loony bird Dirty falcon_

Why are you disagreeing with the orange orangutan, and saying this is a ban against MUSLIMS???There are Christians,Jews and I,m sure some other religions in those countries.The important thing is our CONSTITUTION forbids excluding people from our country because of race, creed, color, or country of national origin.
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Better re-read the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

YOU GOT IT WRONG!

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Illegal immigrants are NOT "citizens", numbnuts.

They weren't BORN here, stupid.



What is it you marxists have against immigrants doing it the LEGAL way?

Keep in mind, the lawless 8 years of the 0BUMa administration are OVER. Crooked Hillary didn't get elected.

We're doing things by the RULE OF LAW now.

Remember that? Or is your dementia too far gone?

2/4/2017 1:22:00 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
condor_0000
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As a leftist, I don't want crazy, god-believing Muslims in America any more than I want crazy, god-believing Christians here. Both are f**king lunatics who embrace an imaginary being as our creator. They're all f**king insane.

What we should do is just force our capitalist billionaires and their political operatives who pushed for imperialist wars in the Middle East to pony up the trillions of dollars they owe for destroying the societies where those Muslims lived and for the killing and torture of millions of Muslims as those billionaire capitalists greedily sought more personal riches. Our capitalist elite committed a major crime against humanity and they should pay the consequences. We need a little "personal responsibility" to be demanded of our capitalist killers, rapists, looters, and thieves.

2/4/2017 7:27:01 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

testsignup
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Quote from rambo_was_real:
I don't understand why they are so upset? And I don't think they understand why either. So quick to tell me how they feel and that they know on any other topic. Duckin Dodgin Dems.


I just want an honest answer from a leftist on what good they see in bringing in refugees, and why Muslim refugees are so special.




I don't know any "leftists" such as you describe, because there aren't any. You have again made up a propaganda cartoon of a character who makes no sense, because THAT'S HOW YOU DREW THE CARTOON.

The primary REAL arguments going on in the US about this subject, have zero to do with what you are chattering about here. Instead, it has to do with unthinking and unobservant people such as yourself, deciding to attack an entire religion, because a part of it's people are doing horrible things. The opposition you face, isn't people who "long for Muslims." You know you are lying for effect about that, since you can't find ANYONE actually saying what you pretend that ALL of them are saying.

2/4/2017 9:10:51 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

mr_bad_robot
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It is odd to hear liberals talk about religious liberty. Over the last week this seems to be their new mantra.

2/4/2017 12:32:45 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
61foulcohen
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Leftists with a hard on for Israel is the answer to the question.

2/4/2017 12:34:23 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
sinceresammy
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Quote from 61falcon:
Why are you disagreeing with the orange orangutan, and saying this is a ban against MUSLIMS???There are Christians,Jews and I,m sure some other religions in those countries.The important thing is our CONSTITUTION forbids excluding people from our country because of race, creed, color, or country of national origin.


Why haven't you been excluded? You are from Mars!

2/4/2017 12:35:35 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
cupocheer
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OP


Do you know the difference between Muslim and Islam?

2/4/2017 12:38:16 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

nycman530
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Quote from amusicluvr:


Letting Moslem refugees-who are fleeing from Moslem terrorism-in here gives us allies in fighting the terrorists.


I wish that was true. But sprinkled in can also be terrorists or simply those who do not want to assimilate and want Sharia Law.

2/4/2017 12:40:44 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

nycman530
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Quote from rambo_was_real:
I don't understand why they are so upset? And I don't think they understand why either. So quick to tell me how they feel and that they know on any other topic. Duckin Dodgin Dems.


I just want an honest answer from a leftist on what good they see in bringing in refugees, and why Muslim refugees are so special.




As upset as they are claiming women and gays don't have equal rights, they should realize Muslim customs set women back to the stone age and don't forget that they also feel homosexuals should die. So it seems hypocritical when they call people Islamophobic.

2/4/2017 1:32:23 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

ludlowlowell
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Leftists are like the crowd that gathered for Jesus' trial. They would rather have Barrabus (Mohammed) set free than Jesus.



[Edited 2/4/2017 1:32:50 PM ]

2/4/2017 1:40:15 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
herc117
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Quote from cupocheer:
OP


Do you know the difference between Muslim and Islam?



Islam is the religion.

Muslim is a follower of Islam.


That is the definition.

2/4/2017 1:47:15 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
muldoon1959
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Leftists are like the crowd that gathered for Jesus' trial. They would rather have Barrabus (Mohammed) set free than Jesus.

Actually those were the rightists.
You apparently forgot Jesus was the
radical liberal that wanted to give away
free healthcare and food to the poor.

That's why they killed him.
He upset the money changers.

2/4/2017 2:04:12 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

nycman530
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Quote from muldoon1959:
Actually those were the rightists.
You apparently forgot Jesus was the
radical liberal that wanted to give away
free healthcare and food to the poor.

That's why they killed him.
He upset the money changers.


You fool!!! Jesus was NOT a liberal. Jesus taught peace, love, and generosity towards your neighbor but he would never be okay with liberal stances like abortion, homosexuality, rioting, etc. Of course Jesus believed in generosity for those in need by people out of the goodness of their hearts, but would have frowned on the Government extorting money from people to do what they wished with it. And although Jesus believed in generosity, he also believed people should progress through hard work if they were able to.

2/4/2017 2:11:04 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
amusicluvr
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Leftists are like the crowd that gathered for Jesus' trial. They would rather have Barrabus (Mohammed) set free than Jesus.


Actually, that crowd was a rightist one, manipulated by the right wing priests. Right wingers were also the Loyalists to King George during The American Revolution, and The NAZIs of WW2 were all right wingers. Try again, fool.

BTW - It was US Right Wing Repubtards who backed Fidel Castro in Cuba, thinking he was a good right winger...only to find out later that he was actually a communist. Right Wingers are none too smart.

2/4/2017 2:16:58 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
m_gonzales
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Part of it is a desire to not seem racist, or to repair a damaged image because of our legacy on racism.

I'm not like that, personally. Bringing in refugees is smart. For one, less people there to turn to extremist ideologies. It's easy to throw your lot in with a terror group when they can provide you security and food. For two, we're bound to international law. For three, it's the decent thing to do. People we don't take in will die, either as a subject of another ISIS propaganda video, a coalition or Russian bomb, or from the elements as they try to immigrate.

Can you seriously not see why Muslim refugees are so special?...

2/4/2017 2:19:10 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
m_gonzales
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Quote from nycman530:
As upset as they are claiming women and gays don't have equal rights, they should realize Muslim customs set women back to the stone age and don't forget that they also feel homosexuals should die. So it seems hypocritical when they call people Islamophobic.


Muslim customs don't run this country. They're not going to magic into Sharia just because some Muslims come here.

2/4/2017 2:26:55 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

nycman530
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Quote from m_gonzales:
Muslim customs don't run this country. They're not going to magic into Sharia just because some Muslims come here.


But where do we draw the line, Gonzales? How many is too many? Look what transpired in Europe when too many were admitted in. America is a compassionate nation and we should be, but compassion without vigilance is a recipe for disaster, as displayed in France, Germany, and England. We must remember that there are a lack of data bases in the Middle East which make screening more difficult. Too many people are acting as though this is a permanent ban. It is temporary until screening improves. We must know they are willing to assimilate by adapting to our laws and customs and respecting other religions aside from their own. And we need to set priorities by helping our own homeless, especially the vets, before we deal with more refugees.

2/4/2017 2:45:51 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
m_gonzales
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Quote from nycman530:
But where do we draw the line, Gonzales? How many is too many? Look what transpired in Europe when too many were admitted in. America is a compassionate nation and we should be, but compassion without vigilance is a recipe for disaster, as displayed in France, Germany, and England. We must remember that there are a lack of data bases in the Middle East which make screening more difficult. Too many people are acting as though this is a permanent ban. It is temporary until screening improves. We must know they are willing to assimilate by adapting to our laws and customs and respecting other religions aside from their own. And we need to set priorities by helping our own homeless, especially the vets, before we deal with more refugees.


Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just not fear-mongering over something that'll never happen. Gays and women aren't going to lose their rights because of a refugee program.

2/4/2017 2:55:02 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
muldoon1959
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Quote from nycman530:
You fool!!! Jesus was NOT a liberal. Jesus taught peace, love, and generosity towards your neighbor but he would never be okay with liberal stances like abortion, homosexuality, rioting, etc. Of course Jesus believed in generosity for those in need by people out of the goodness of their hearts, but would have frowned on the Government extorting money from people to do what they wished with it. And although Jesus believed in generosity, he also believed people should progress through hard work if they were able to.


Yeah sure you betcha.

Piss and moan all you want but he sure as f**k wasn't
conservative.



2/4/2017 2:58:51 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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Quote from nycman530:
You fool!!! Jesus was NOT a liberal. Jesus taught peace, love, and generosity towards your neighbor but he would never be okay with liberal stances like abortion, homosexuality, rioting, etc. Of course Jesus believed in generosity for those in need by people out of the goodness of their hearts, but would have frowned on the Government extorting money from people to do what they wished with it. And although Jesus believed in generosity, he also believed people should progress through hard work if they were able to.



...jesus wasn't a liberal...


dah f**k?

Jesus was for the little guy. He was for WOMEN. He was for peace and love, just like those F**KIN liberal hippies. He was the epitome of anti establishment, of tyranny, of corruption.






2/4/2017 3:01:44 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from m_gonzales:
Muslim customs don't run this country. They're not going to magic into Sharia just because some Muslims come here.


Actually they are, and we are letting them.

We have a very small muslim population so we don't see the reprocussions yet. As the muslim population grows, the shit happens.

We see evidence of this all over the world.

First they will take domestic problems, marriage, divorce, abuse, etc.

2/4/2017 3:02:55 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

nycman530
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
...jesus wasn't a liberal...


dah f**k?

Jesus was for the little guy. He was for WOMEN. He was for peace and love, just like those F**KIN liberal hippies. He was the epitome of anti establishment, of tyranny, of corruption.






You think TODAY'S liberals are for peace and love like they were in the 60's and the 70's? Completely different now. Back then liberals wanted small government like Conservatives do now. But today they are more for big Government and they are far less peaceful and loving than before. You can tell by all the rioting now.

2/4/2017 3:05:20 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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I think Gonzo need to make a trip to Hamtramic Michigan and spend a few days.

Anyone want to help me pay his airfare and hotel stay? I know of a real nice place he can stay where every morning, noon and night he can listen to the call to prayer they play over the loud speakers.

What say you Gonzo? Need a little vacation?

2/4/2017 3:06:44 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
muldoon1959
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Quote from nycman530:
You think TODAY'S liberals are for peace and love like they were in the 60's and the 70's? Completely different now. Back then liberals wanted small government like Conservatives do now. But today they are more for big Government and they are far less peaceful and loving than before. You can tell by all the rioting now.


Quit fooling yourself.
There is absolutely nothing christian
about modern conservatives.

Hell.
There's pretty much nothing Christian about
christians.

2/4/2017 3:09:43 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
m_gonzales
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Actually they are, and we are letting them.

We have a very small muslim population so we don't see the reprocussions yet. As the muslim population grows, the shit happens.

We see evidence of this all over the world.

First they will take domestic problems, marriage, divorce, abuse, etc.


Mormonism is our fastest growing religion in America. I don't see any polygamy going around.

2/4/2017 3:11:56 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

reginamc
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Quote from m_gonzales:
Muslim customs don't run this country. They're not going to magic into Sharia just because some Muslims come here.


Only because there aren't enough of them - yet.

2/4/2017 3:13:21 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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Ohhhhhhhhhh son, don't confuse the protests with war! Don't be a dipshit. Yes, there is some violence at some protests. It's very well known that many of the evildoers are known to the police as bad hombres.

I would agree that the liberals of the 60s were for smaller government then we are today. But then again, the world is a different place then it was then. Just like it is a different place then it was in 1865. That was the year Lincoln was assassinated for those that missed it.

2/4/2017 3:14:56 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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Quote from reginamc:
Only because there aren't enough of them - yet.


This is what these ignorant liberal fu@ks don't understand! We need to send them all to countries where Muslims are the majority and rule, and lets see how well they get treated!

If they even live longer than a day, they could come on here and tell us all how life is... And I am totally serious!

2/4/2017 3:17:26 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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Lay off the pot dude. Paranoia...It'll destroy ya.

2/4/2017 3:18:24 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

maniacmassager
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Lefties and muslims are both anti American. that's why they both love each other.

2/4/2017 3:20:18 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
Lay off the pot dude. Paranoia...It'll destroy ya.


You must be thinking of Prog... But I am sure all them sexually transmitted diseases you acquired while in jail are affecting your memory.

2/4/2017 3:21:16 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

reginamc
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Quote from m_gonzales:
Mormonism is our fastest growing religion in America. I don't see any polygamy going around.


I hope that's true, Mormons are good people, but Islam is the fastest growing religion is the world.

2/4/2017 3:43:02 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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Prog's not paranoid.




The ETs didn't make it taste too weird, did it?

2/4/2017 4:02:26 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

thekinghasrisen
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Quote from rambo_was_real:
I don't understand why they are so upset? And I don't think they understand why either. So quick to tell me how they feel and that they know on any other topic. Duckin Dodgin Dems.


I just want an honest answer from a leftist on what good they see in bringing in refugees, and why Muslim refugees are so special.




Either you don't get why people call this Muslim ban unAmerican or you're being disingenuous.

No one, left or right (last I checked, Trump is getting 'checked and balanced by both sides of the aisle) is making the argument that America is better or worse with Muslims in it. This isn't a two dimensional morality play where you get to rework fundemental question of "are we a religiously homogenous and compassionate nation" into "is America better off with more or less brown people".

One doesn't get to simply change their values with the circumstance (assuming they have any in the first place), and when we as Americans have, history hasn't been kind to us. Even the golden boy FDR has a perminent black eye for turning away Jewish refugees during their persecution in Europe.

Also, theres the minor fact that no one from any of the countries in this ban attacked us...ever. I get that these countries were on an Obama era list for increased vetting, but that's like the difference between going to the DMV at noon on a Monday, and going to the DMV on Christmas morning. Maybe if we weren't sucking off the real threats in the world to feed our oil fettish, a ban might make a little more sense to a few more people.

Let's call this what it is - a ban on random brown people to make white people feel safer. No body is going to justify to you or anyone else how poor a use of presidential power that is. They'll just go on doing what they've been doing and making noise about it.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. By the time this ridiculous, unamerican Muslim ban is done being kicked around in court; 90 days should be about up anyway. I highly doubt even trump is screwy enough to try this malarkey again.



[Edited 2/4/2017 4:03:47 PM ]

2/4/2017 4:02:48 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

nycman530
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Send the refugees to Hollywood since they are advocates for them. Then watch how quickly they change their tune!

2/4/2017 4:03:57 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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I worked with refugees. Wasn't shit to me.

2/4/2017 4:10:30 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
condor_0000
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Quote from nycman530:
Send the refugees to Hollywood since they are advocates for them. Then watch how quickly they change their tune!


Where do refugees come from, Nycman?

------------------

As a leftist, I don't want crazy, god-believing Muslims in America any more than I want crazy, god-believing Christians here. Both are f**king lunatics who embrace an imaginary being as our creator. They're all f**king insane.

What we should do is just force our capitalist billionaires and their political operatives who pushed for imperialist wars in the Middle East to pony up the trillions of dollars they owe for destroying the societies where those Muslims lived and for the killing and torture of millions of Muslims as those billionaire capitalists greedily sought more personal riches. Our capitalist elite committed a major crime against humanity and they should pay the consequences. We need a little "personal responsibility" to be demanded of our capitalist killers, rapists, looters, and thieves.

2/4/2017 4:21:08 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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Quote from thekinghasrisen:
Either you don't get why people call this Muslim ban unAmerican or you're being disingenuous.

No one, left or right (last I checked, Trump is getting 'checked and balanced by both sides of the aisle) is making the argument that America is better or worse with Muslims in it. This isn't a two dimensional morality play where you get to rework fundemental question of "are we a religiously homogenous and compassionate nation" into "is America better off with more or less brown people".

One doesn't get to simply change their values with the circumstance (assuming they have any in the first place), and when we as Americans have, history hasn't been kind to us. Even the golden boy FDR has a perminent black eye for turning away Jewish refugees during their persecution in Europe.

Also, theres the minor fact that no one from any of the countries in this ban attacked us...ever. I get that these countries were on an Obama era list for increased vetting, but that's like the difference between going to the DMV at noon on a Monday, and going to the DMV on Christmas morning. Maybe if we weren't sucking off the real threats in the world to feed our oil fettish, a ban might make a little more sense to a few more people.

Let's call this what it is - a ban on random brown people to make white people feel safer. No body is going to justify to you or anyone else how poor a use of presidential power that is. They'll just go on doing what they've been doing and making noise about it.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. By the time this ridiculous, unamerican Muslim ban is done being kicked around in court; 90 days should be about up anyway. I highly doubt even trump is screwy enough to try this malarkey again.


Hey there Risen.. Could you please tell me what happened almost 9 months into the year 2001? You know, the last time we had a new Republican President in office.. Could you tell me what happened, and what kind of folks were involved in that?

If GWB had done something like this at the start of his term in 2001, then perhaps 9/11 could have been avoided all together? Yet you people want to lax these security measures to the point we're going to be vulnerable to another attack! Then who is going to look bad? Not the Republican Party who is trying to do everything possible to defend the "real" citizens of this country!

And lets face it, Iran has shown us already TWICE what it thinks about the USA and it's current policy! From all I can see, it doesn't even matter if we give them money, or remove sanctions... It doesn't matter if we make an agreement with them... They do not like us and they want to kill us. That is the reality here, yet you liberals are just dying for another attack on the USA to drag us into war so that Republicans can't show the nation and the world what we can achieve without having to be at war... It's really the only play the Democrats have! Get a war going to erode the current party who will be distracted in office.

It's the oldest play in the book, and Democrats are working towards them ends on a daily basis... They have their friends in Iran, who they have paid BILLIONS in cash working towards them ends as well... I am sure President Trump is well aware of this, and I think we should nail these turn-coat, treasonous fu@kers to the wall!

2/4/2017 4:36:15 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

ludlowlowell
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Liberals, if you think Judeo-Christian values are tough, wait'll you get a taste of sharia law.

2/4/2017 4:36:56 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
condor_0000
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Quote from condor_0000:
Where do refugees come from, Nycman?

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As a leftist, I don't want crazy, god-believing Muslims in America any more than I want crazy, god-believing Christians here. Both are f**king lunatics who embrace an imaginary being as our creator. They're all f**king insane.

What we should do is just force our capitalist billionaires and their political operatives who pushed for imperialist wars in the Middle East to pony up the trillions of dollars they owe for destroying the societies where those Muslims lived and for the killing and torture of millions of Muslims as those billionaire capitalists greedily sought more personal riches. Our capitalist elite committed a major crime against humanity and they should pay the consequences. We need a little "personal responsibility" to be demanded of our capitalist killers, rapists, looters, and thieves.


Why don't law-and-order, personal-responsibility-loving right-wingers support my proposal on how to deal with the refugee problem?

2/4/2017 4:37:53 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

thekinghasrisen
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Quote from stellar007:
Hey there Risen.. Could you please tell me what happened almost 9 months into the year 2001? You know, the last time we had a new Republican President in office.. Could you tell me what happened, and what kind of folks were involved in that?


They were almost all Saudi. So was Bin Laden by the way.

If GWB had done something like this at the start of his term in 2001, then perhaps 9/11 could have been avoided all together?


They were almost all Saudi. So was Bin Laden by the way.

Yet you people want to lax these security measures to the point we're going to be vulnerable to another attack!


Stopping you right there. In my experience, people do not try to frighten you unless they are trying to control you. The fact that you're scared of faceless sand people only identify you as easily frightened and thus controlled - and there's nothing particularly special about that. This crippling fear by the way, is how a Presidential candidate could get your vote on the promise to build a wall to keep the brown people out, in a year where net immigration from Mexico was zero and more than 40% of undocs are Visa overstays.

As long as long as the American white majority insists on seeing American history as the history of white people in Europe instead of the history of people on the planet, we're going to get tribal arguments like this and the simpletons that make them with a hilarious level of confidence.



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2/4/2017 4:38:19 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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Who said ANYTHING about Judeo-Christian values?


Aaaaaaaaaaaand, I'll wait. Not all day, but I'll give it a few hours.

2/4/2017 4:58:59 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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Quote from thekinghasrisen:
They were almost all Saudi. So was Bin Laden by the way.


They were Saudi born, raised and immigrated from Saudi Arabia?

Or just born Saudi and then radicalized later in another one of the countries that we have on the "hold" list?

This is VERY important! So come on, you can say it...

We have our fair share of radical anchor babies here in the USA too.



[Edited 2/4/2017 5:00:05 PM ]

2/4/2017 6:02:21 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
m_gonzales
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Quote from stellar007:
They were Saudi born, raised and immigrated from Saudi Arabia?

Or just born Saudi and then radicalized later in another one of the countries that we have on the "hold" list?


Germany? Do some research dude.

2/4/2017 6:13:13 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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LOL, I don't have to Gonzo... I have seen the big picture and I can tell you that the people who seemed to flourish during the years following 9/11 until now are ALL out of power and grouping together, even if they aren't from the same party. It's kind of spooky if you ask me...

2/4/2017 6:19:25 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

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Quote from scarredandtatto:
I worked with refugees. Wasn't shit to me.

Well that was while they were being refugees. When they get relocated then the OLD ways become more apparent.

Trump has said that we can make refugee camps in Syria and that is where they should stay, not to come over here to infiltrate the borders on an illegal fast track and try to sermonize world Jihad domination.



2/4/2017 6:33:24 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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For the same reason Australia keeps it's immigrants on a separate island.

So please tell us all again Democrats, how America is not doing right by it's immigrants!? Currently you get a bus ticket and a court date if you illegally immigrate into the USA. How many do you think show up for the court date!? And of the ones that don't and still commit a crime, they are just kicked back out on the streets!? And people have the audacity to even suggest this "status-quo" is acceptable!?



The Australian immigration detention center on Christmas Island. (Photo: Paula Bronstein)





Migrants gather behind a fence at the Australian-operated Manus Island detention center in Papu

Look at what other nations do to ensure their immigrants are going to assimilate, BEFORE they release them out into the wild.

2/4/2017 6:51:22 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

reginamc
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You really have to wonder about all the people around the world who are waiting patiently waiting to come here legally, paying their fees, following the rules, waiting years to have even a hearing - what the hell do they think when they see these morons with signs saying immigrants welcome? They must think "well not me, I guess. I'm separated from my family, too, I'm doing everything right, why am I not welcome".

Pay some attention to them instead of crying for illegals!

2/4/2017 6:58:20 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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Woah up there a minute sister!!


I don't think that ANYBODY has wanted to "speed up" anything. A reason that we haven't been attacked is because these people have been vetted. Let's not stop that.

2/4/2017 7:00:31 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  

stellar007
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Quote from thunderpump:

Trump has said that we can make refugee camps in Syria and that is where they should stay, not to come over here to infiltrate the borders on an illegal fast track and try to sermonize world Jihad domination.


Very good point! Thanks!



[Edited 2/4/2017 7:00:45 PM ]

2/4/2017 7:05:32 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much?  
scarredandtatto
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You three are bout the same wattage of dim bulb.


Syria is where some are fleeing from.




Jesus CHRIST maybe the Spartans were on to something with the whole, "baby selection" thing.