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2/4/2017 7:41:55 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

louie6332
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OP, Liberals are allied with the Muslims because they are allies in their war against Jews and Christians and the Judeo-Christian God. And, no, Allah is not the Creator, as some Liberals would have us believe, he is the ancient Babylonian god of destruction, a demon, and an arch enemy of the Creator.

Falcoon, you say: “The important thing is our CONSTITUTION forbids excluding people from our country because of race, creed, color, or country of national origin.”

Falcoon, listen, and listen carefully, it is unconstitutional to bring Muslims into our country because they are sworn enemies of America and of the constitutional right to publicly practice your religion (unless you are Muslim). The Muslim religion forbids them to honor the Constitutional right to publicly practice your religion in public if you are a religious Jew or a practicing Christian. Their religion calls for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to be replaced with Sharia Law, and calls for them to chop off the heads of Christians and Jews who refuse to convert to the Muslim religion. Therefore, it is actually UNCONSTITUTIONAL for Muslims to be brought into America as immigrants. Muslims ARE publicly practicing their religion in America when they chop the heads off of Jews and Christians who are publicly practicing their religion in America.

Federal law requires immigrants to take an oath of allegiance to the United States and to defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Muslims cannot, in good conscience, do that, since their religion calls for them to break this law and the constitution.

Now do you understand Falcoon?

Louie

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2/4/2017 7:44:30 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

mr_bad_robot
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Try walking into a Mosque during service without being invited. You will be escorted out.

2/4/2017 7:52:30 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

louie6332
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And, yes, Scarre, Trump and Russia have agreed to work together to wipe out ISIS in Syria, and Trump has called for Syria to set up safe refugee camps in Syria for its own refugees. Obama claimed to be waging war on ISIS to placate the American people, but was, in actual fact, helping ISIS, funding and supplying them, and even bombing Syrians for them. That ends with Trump and Russia. In fact, thanks to Russia, ISIS has already been overthrown in Syria, and Syria has it country back. Trump and Russia will insure that it stays that way, that ISIS does not rise again. And both are taking measures to cut ISIS off from its oil supplies.

Louie

2/4/2017 7:54:54 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
scarredandtatto
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Oh, no, Ole goat, I don't read your droning drivel.

Funny man.

2/4/2017 9:55:41 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
thread_killer
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Leftists, don't so much want a taste of
Shari'a law.

Leftists just wanna taste muslim d*ck.

2/4/2017 10:13:50 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
Yasureoktoo
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Here are some quotes from fatwas as set-out by the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran.


“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.
A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.”


– Ayatollah Khomeini, Tahrir al-Vasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990.
“Establishing the Islamic state world-wide belong to the great goals of the revolution.” — Kohmeini, Resalat, 25 March 1988.

“A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”  – From Khomeini’s book, Tahrir al-Vasyleh, fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
“A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. …This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.” –

 ”Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrir al-Vasyleh,” Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990.

2/4/2017 10:19:17 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
scarredandtatto
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Yeah, he was a shit stick. So what's your point?

2/4/2017 10:21:28 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

rambo_was_real
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
Oh, no, Ole goat, I don't read your droning drivel.

Funny man.


Yeah ya do.

You just can't comprehend it, don't have any defense against it, or get part way through and stop reading to feed on something.

2/4/2017 10:25:58 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
scarredandtatto
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F**k you in the nose hole.

2/4/2017 10:41:58 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

rambo_was_real
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
F**k you in the nose hole.


And you'd still be complaining about not tight enough of a fit.

2/4/2017 11:35:11 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
Yasureoktoo
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Keep in mind, when this was writes, Khomeni was the most powerful muslim on earth.

Similar to the pope writing it.

2/5/2017 1:40:06 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
1979OKAY
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
F**k you in the nose hole.


NOW AREN'T YOU A BADASS @ STURGIS SCARFY..

yOU REALLY LIKE ALL THOSE ORRIFICES, HUH SCAREDFATTOO! YOU'RE A SICK, SICK LIBERAL!

2/5/2017 1:42:49 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
1979OKAY
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I SET a trap for scaredandfattoo. I bet hundreds he will go after that donut!

2/5/2017 2:32:42 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

w6o6l6f_1
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Quote from stellar007:
For the same reason Australia keeps it's immigrants on a separate island.

So please tell us all again Democrats, how America is not doing right by it's immigrants!? Currently you get a bus ticket and a court date if you illegally immigrate into the USA. How many do you think show up for the court date!? And of the ones that don't and still commit a crime, they are just kicked back out on the streets!? And people have the audacity to even suggest this "status-quo" is acceptable!?



The Australian immigration detention center on Christmas Island. (Photo: Paula Bronstein)





Migrants gather behind a fence at the Australian-operated Manus Island detention center in Papu

Look at what other nations do to ensure their immigrants are going to assimilate, BEFORE they release them out into the wild.

Australia should let them into their mainland or send them back.
Prime Minister took em' in and expected the US to let them run wild on our streets.

Sorry Australia, there is a new Commander in Chief now.
Suck on your bad desision cuz you thought Hillary was going to be in charge.


2/5/2017 2:37:56 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

wvtravlrr
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Quote from muldoon1959:
Quit fooling yourself.
There is absolutely nothing christian
about modern conservatives.

Hell.
There's pretty much nothing Christian about
christians.



Quit foolin yourself..todays LIEberal/progressives
would like nothing more that to see tge downfall of this coubtry.
Thats why they Cheered and Queered over Oblowhards give it all away policies..

Well...those days are done...and they arent coming back....

2/5/2017 4:03:55 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
condor_0000
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Quote from louie6332:
And, yes, Scarre, Trump and Russia have agreed to work together to wipe out ISIS in Syria, and Trump has called for Syria to set up safe refugee camps in Syria for its own refugees. Obama claimed to be waging war on ISIS to placate the American people, but was, in actual fact, helping ISIS, funding and supplying them, and even bombing Syrians for them. That ends with Trump and Russia. In fact, thanks to Russia, ISIS has already been overthrown in Syria, and Syria has it country back. Trump and Russia will insure that it stays that way, that ISIS does not rise again. And both are taking measures to cut ISIS off from its oil supplies.

Louie


Hey good-Christian, personal-responsibility-loving Louie, should the evil American gangster-capitalists who are responsible for creating the refugees pay to repair their nations and pay all those refugees the reparations they truly deserve? Or should we just blame their terrorist proxy armies and let the real criminals get away with their crimes against humanity?

“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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As a leftist, I don't want crazy, god-believing Muslims in America any more than I want crazy, god-believing Christians here. Both are f**king lunatics who embrace an imaginary being as our creator. They're all f**king insane.

What we should do is just force our capitalist billionaires and their political operatives who pushed for imperialist wars in the Middle East to pony up the trillions of dollars they owe for destroying the societies where those Muslims lived and for the killing and torture of millions of Muslims as those billionaire capitalists greedily sought more personal riches. Our capitalist elite committed a major crime against humanity and they should pay the consequences. We need a little "personal responsibility" to be demanded of our capitalist killers, rapists, looters, and thieves.

2/5/2017 8:58:33 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
mz_jeannie_baby
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Because few people knw what the religion of Islam is all about.

They, for the most part think, it's about God, the same god as the Christians.

They could not be further from the truth.



First of all I doubt any on the leftists you refer to believe this mess is 'about God' at least not from the perspective of going so far as to ban a particular religious group. That would be the right wing wouldn't it? But truth be told we DO have the same God.

The same God that created the sun you and I live under is the Christian-Muslim-Jewish God.

Whether beliefs about the who, what and where of God jive is irrelevant.

one group could label and attempt to pigeon hole the other in a tiny package in an attempt to understand the other, but it does not deter from the fundamental fact it IS the same God that created them.

I say Joe is a nice guy, you say he's bad, our differences in belief do not change the fact he is still Joe!

A much bigger question is where is the truth in humanity claimed by a majority of Christian Trump supporters regarding refugees and those considered 'enemies'? A person in need wouldn't be asked about his country of origin in a time of life threatening persecution.

2/5/2017 9:10:41 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

nycman530
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Quote from mz_jeannie_baby:
First of all I doubt any on the leftists you refer to believe this mess is 'about God' at least not from the perspective of going so far as to ban a particular religious group. That would be the right wing wouldn't it? But truth be told we DO have the same God.

The same God that created the sun you and I live under is the Christian-Muslim-Jewish God.

Whether beliefs about the who, what and where of God jive is irrelevant.

one group could label and attempt to pigeon hole the other in a tiny package in an attempt to understand the other, but it does not deter from the fundamental fact it IS the same God that created them.

I say Joe is a nice guy, you say he's bad, our differences in belief do not change the fact he is still Joe!

A much bigger question is where is the truth in humanity claimed by a majority of Christian Trump supporters regarding refugees and those considered 'enemies'? A person in need wouldn't be asked about his country of origin in a time of life threatening persecution.


There is only ONE God, one creator, despite various religions interpreting God in different ways. As far as humanity is concerned, like I've mentioned in the past, America is a compassionate nation. However, compassion without vigilance is a recipe for disaster. Case in point: England, Germany, France. How is that assimilation working out over there? It's a horror! Too many people are acting as though this is a permanent ban, it is not. It is temporary until screening improves. And Saudi Arabia has 100,000 air conditioned tents that can house up to 3 million people. Since they have better means of providing for them than America, how about they take them in? They will have no problem assimilating there as opposed to here in America or Europe.

2/5/2017 9:16:58 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

mr_bad_robot
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I think it's true that Christians and Muslims both worship the same God in general sense. The difference being is the message.

You will not find in the Christian Bible references to what religion to follow. Religion is man centered. However in the Koran it states you must be of the Islamic faith.

2/5/2017 9:20:00 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
mz_jeannie_baby
Rochester, MI
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Quote from nycman530:
There is only ONE God, one creator, despite various religions interpreting God in different ways. As far as humanity is concerned, like I've mentioned in the past, America is a compassionate nation. However, compassion without vigilance is a recipe for disaster. Case in point: England, Germany, France. How is that assimilation working out over there? It's a horror! Too many people are acting as though this is a permanent ban, it is not. It is temporary until screening improves. And Saudi Arabia has 100,000 air conditioned tents that can house up to 3 million people. Since they have better means of providing for them than America, how about they take them in? They will have no problem assimilating there as opposed to here in America or Europe.


We waste money on scoping out what's on the moon and have no idea what is on our own planet in terms of the suffering we have caused and have the moral responsibility to do something about.

Throwing problems to those that can accommodate "better" than you is a sell out and typical argument...Has God ever been outdone in generosity, now here is one time I can honestly say, NO.

You are asked as a Christian to love your enemies, and to love one another, (one is actually a command) when you get right down to it. Don't sugar coat it, don't even think about it, you do it and you do it Samaritan style...That's why BEING a Christian wasn't promised ease with the task.

2/5/2017 9:28:28 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
mz_jeannie_baby
Rochester, MI
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Addendum to prior post, YOU do it, you simply do it.

and then you ask, "who, me"?

the other guy can accommodate better, and they'll better assimilate there
.

sell outs. Not traditional Christianity.

Mercy isn't innate for a lot of us (no matter religion) when it might go against our deepest grain in liking someone.

But it's never been about liking anyone.

That makes no difference, sometimes the feeling of mercy (I believe a gift) comes after the action of going out of your way to do something you perhaps would not feel the inclination to do.

2/5/2017 9:29:39 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

nycman530
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Quote from mz_jeannie_baby:
We waste money on scoping out what's on the moon and have no idea what is on our own planet in terms of the suffering we have caused and have the moral responsibility to do something about.

Throwing problems to those that can accommodate "better" than you is a sell out and typical argument...Has God ever been outdone in generosity, now here is one time I can honestly say, NO.

You are asked as a Christian to love your enemies, and to love one another, (one is actually a command) when you get right down to it. Don't sugar coat it, don't even think about it, you do it and you do it Samaritan style...That's why BEING a Christian wasn't promised ease with the task.


It's not just about who can accommodate better. These are safety measures. I'm sure you're aware how this turned out in Europe, right? And do you not agree we should take care of OUR OWN displaced population before anyone else? Especially homeless vets? I personally know Muslims here in NYC who are great people and even consider them as friends. They blend in fine. But not all want to, maybe those of the Kurdish persuasion would, but many others would not. Are you willing to take that risk? The relationship between leaders of countries and their citizens should be the same no matter what standards or country. An elected leaders job is to take care of their citizens above all else



[Edited 2/5/2017 9:32:22 AM ]

2/5/2017 9:36:55 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
mz_jeannie_baby
Rochester, MI
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Quote from nycman530:
It's not just about who can accommodate better. These are safety measures. I'm sure you're aware how this turned out in Europe, right? And do you not agree we should take care of OUR OWN displaced population before anyone else? Especially homeless vets? I personally know Muslims here in NYC who are great people and even consider them as friends. They blend in fine. But not all want to, maybe those of the Kurdish persuasion would, but many others would not. Are you willing to take that risk?


the accommodation idea was yours, see your prior post.

how do people worry about them blending in when they're bruised and battered targets of war right now?? I'm talking about refugees...................................................

Sure the black and blue isn't going to match the ideology of what the red, white and blue should look like, talk like, dress like, but when people are dying does it really matter if they assimilate at this point in time to what you consider an American is?

Samaritan style is an example of what you have been asked to do.

2/5/2017 9:37:01 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

mr_bad_robot
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All throughout the Muslim Word and Europe there is carnage. Constant protesting Muslims trying to change the culture of the lands they now occupy.

Here in America we are starting to see the same. It starts slow then builds. Why would we want that in America? The same Muslims that made their way to Europe are the same Muslims that are coming to America. Why would we expect anything different?

2/5/2017 9:44:03 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

nycman530
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Quote from mz_jeannie_baby:
the accommodation idea was yours, see your prior post.

how do people worry about them blending in when they're bruised and battered targets of war right now?? I'm talking about refugees...................................................

Sure the black and blue isn't going to match the ideology of what the red, white and blue should look like, talk like, dress like, but when people are dying does it really matter if they assimilate at this point in time to what you consider an American is?

Samaritan style is an example of what you have been asked to do.


I'm still awaiting your response to the situation in Europe after they were let in there and how things deteriorated. And I'm talking assimilation as far as following our LAWS are concerned, not our customs.

2/5/2017 9:46:59 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
mz_jeannie_baby
Rochester, MI
57, joined Sep. 2012


Quote from mr_bad_robot:
All throughout the Muslim Word and Europe there is carnage. Constant protesting Muslims trying to change the culture of the lands they now occupy.

Here in America we are starting to see the same. It starts slow then builds. Why would we want that in America? The same Muslims that made their way to Europe are the same Muslims that are coming to America. Why would we expect anything different?


Trump recently pointed out the fact that America has it's own murderers when questioned about Putin, he outright pointed out in a masked statement that America is not exceptional.

and then the left had a field day with that comment and they've never espoused exceptionalism. listen, both parties suck, we all know it. their tolerance party is tolerance of their liking and their violence is not the voice of justice for all from the 'by-gone' greats....even their immense crowds....gotta wonder where they were during election day!!!

The point here is you act out mercy, the rest comes later. THAT is Christianity when dealing with those you even consider your enemies.

at this point you're arguing with the wrong Person if you don't like it.

2/5/2017 9:54:22 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

nycman530
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Quote from mz_jeannie_baby:
Trump recently pointed out the fact that America has it's own murderers when questioned about Putin, he outright pointed out in a masked statement that America is not exceptional.

and then the left had a field day with that comment and they've never espoused exceptionalism. listen, both parties suck, we all know it. their tolerance party is tolerance of their liking and their violence is not the voice of justice for all from the 'by-gone' greats....even their immense crowds....gotta wonder where they were during election day!!!

The point here is you act out mercy, the rest comes later. THAT is Christianity when dealing with those you even consider your enemies.

at this point you're arguing with the wrong Person if you don't like it.


Do you lock your door at night? Why? To protect yourself and your family, correct? Dollars to donuts if we decided to send them all to Rochester, Michigan you would be rethinking your logic, correct? And as I said before, we need to tend to our own displaced population, especially homeless vets, before tending to others. The FBI has already confirmed screening is lax due to the lack of data bases in the Middle East. Never let your emotions overrule your common sense, Jeannie.

2/5/2017 9:59:10 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

mr_bad_robot
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mz_jeannie_baby

I never directed my post to you, so please don't flatter yourself.

2/5/2017 10:04:29 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

thekinghasrisen
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Quote from wvtravlrr:
Quit foolin yourself..todays LIEberal/progressives
would like nothing more that to see tge downfall of this coubtry.


The country that THEY live in. They want to see it sunk in the sea do they?

If you are so naive and two dimensional as to believe that you're the undisputed hero in your own story, than you're hardly qualified to cut your own meat, let alone engage in reasoned dialouge.

What happened to the body politic which poisoned the well in the first place is that one side of the rational debate stopped acknowledging that both sides want whats best for the country from a certain perspective. That's why we are where we are now in our public discourse.



[Edited 2/5/2017 10:07:16 AM ]

2/5/2017 10:09:49 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

nycman530
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Quote from thekinghasrisen:
The country that THEY live in. They want to see it sunk in the sea do they?

If you are so naive and two dimensional as to believe that you're the undisputed hero in your own story, than you're hardly qualified to cut your own meat, let alone engage in reasoned dialouge.


Of course they don't WANT to see the downfall of their own country, but they falsely believe they can all be trusted and everything will be hunky dory. It doesn't work that way. It's like playing Russian Roulette with our safety.

2/5/2017 10:14:52 AM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

thekinghasrisen
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Quote from nycman530:
Of course they don't WANT to see the downfall of their own country, but they falsely believe they can all be trusted and everything will be hunky dory. It doesn't work that way. It's like playing Russian Roulette with our safety.


That's a more respectable position.

My problem with liberals is that they see the world as they want it to be, and not as it is. America for instance is the least racist country on the planet, and yet we're still talking about racism in 2017. I'm not going to live long enough to relitigate battles that were fought in the 50s.

2/5/2017 1:52:13 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

maniacmassager
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
I worked with refugees. Wasn't shit to me.


Because your shit just like them.

2/5/2017 5:02:38 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  

louie6332
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The answer as to why leftists defend Muslims is that they are allies in the war against Judaism and Christianity and their God.

Jeannie, you say concerning the command to love your enemy: “The point here is you act out mercy, the rest comes later. THAT is Christianity when dealing with those you even consider your enemies.” Jeannie, Christians have the right to defend themselves in the eyes of God, killing their attacker if necessary. And concerning love, Christian love concerns itself first with the eternal salvation of their enemy. And God, who is a just God, has revealed that mercy and justice are two sides of the same coin, that mercy does not preclude justice. God, who asking Christ to love their enemy, has also warned: “do not trust your enemy”. Only a fool trusts their enemy, and the Muslims are our AVOWED enemy.

Jeannie, you say: “But truth be told we [Jews, Christians, and Muslims] DO have the same God. The same God that created the sun you and I live under is the Christian-Muslim-Jewish God.” Jeannie, this is false, it could not be further from the truth.

I have addressed this before, but it seems I need to address it again, for there is a great deal of contusion today, even among Christians, and in this forum, on the nature of the Mohammedanism.

Robot, you say: “I think it's true that Christians and Muslims both worship the same God in general sense. The difference being is the message. You will not find in the Christian Bible references to what religion to follow. Religion is man centered. However in the Koran it states you must be of the Islamic faith.”

It is true that there is one Creator, but there are many gods, your god is whatever you worship. But God the Father, the Creator, the God of Jews and Christians, has strictly forbidden the worship of gods other than himself: “I am the Lord thy God who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, I am a jealous God, and I will have no other gods before me.” And no, man did NOT make this up, God, the Creator, himself said this. Ignore it at your own peril. The Freemasons would like everyone to believe that every religion is manmade and therefore one religion is as good as another--and some here are repeating that--but that is false. True religion is revealed by God himself, the Creator, it is NOT manmade. Judaism and Christianity are God given religions, revealed by God himself, they are not manmade. In these latter days, the enemies of God have tried to turn the word “religion” into a dirty, politically incorrect, word as part of their war against God the Father.

Paganism, fundamentally, and by definition, is the worship of Creatures rather than the Creator, whether it be the sun, the moon, the stars, the earth, the Universe, fire, water, dead relatives, men, demons, or yourself. God created all these things, they are creatures, and he has strictly forbidden the worship of all these things.

Mohamed was never a Christian, he was a Pagan (a worshiper of Pagan gods), as was his Father. He Father worshiped various Pagan gods, but he persuaded his son to give preference to the Pagan god Allah, who is said to have appeared to Mohamed, giving him precepts and the order to wage war against the followers of the Judeo-Christian God. And the Mohammedans have been at war against Jews and Christians ever since. One of the first things Mohamed did was to line up a bunch of Jews and behead them all. Mohammedanism is not a Christian heresy, it is a monotheistic Pagan religion.

Is Allah the same god as God the Father, the Creator? NO. We now know that the Muslim god “Allah” is the ancient Babylonian god “Alah” spoken of in the ancient Babylonian tablets as “the god of destruction”. Allah is a demon, an arch enemy of God the Father, the Creator, God of Jews and Christians, and he has been waging war against Jews and Christians from the beginning. The demons fight God under the command of Satan, the fallen Lucifer, the King of Hell.

It is clear that they are not the same god, because, for one thing, the precepts that Allah gave to Mohamed are different from those that God the Father gave to his followers, for example, Our Lord said that there is no marriage or giving of marriage in Heaven, but Allah has promised Muslims who murder Jews and Christians will be rewarded with 72 virgins in Heaven. God the Father reveals that Jesus Christ was his Only Begotten Son, who died on the cross to open the gates of heaven to men of good will, and that he now sits upon a throne in Heaven beside that of God the Father. Allah teaches that Jesus Christ was Saint Michael the Archangel and that he did not die on the cross. And I could go on and on. The Gospel of Christ and that of Allah are two entirely gospels. But God the Father, the Creator, is a God of Truth, he does not contradict himself. And God the Father, the Creator, would not order anyone to murder his faithful followers. Two different gods.

Muslims are now murdering Christians around the world, they are trying to kill them all. And there are numerous reports that Our Lord, even as I wrote, is appearing to specific Muslims in the Middle East who are involved in Jihad and asking them: “Why are you killing my people?” And many Muslims who experience this end up converting to Christianity. Many of these incidences are being documented on YouTube videos. Two different gods. And there are Life-After-Death experience in which a Muslim dies expecting to see Heaven but instead sees the demon Allah and Hell before they are resuscitated and then suddenly back in their body telling their story, and many of these are also converting to Christianity. And many of these accounts have also been documented on YouTube videos. Two different gods.

True religion is God oriented. Our Lord has given us to commands: the first is to love God above all else, the second is to love your neighbor as you love yourself. And God has equated loving him with obeying him: “Those who love me keep my commandments”, and “Those who do not love me do not keep my commandments”. These are not the same commandment, for you can break one without breaking the other. For example, during a great persecution—and a great persecution has been foretold—you are told that if you do not denounce Christ, they will throw your beloved wife or child into this boiling pot of oil, and you submit and denounce Christ in order to save your loved one, then you have kept the second commandment, but broken the first and greatest commandment to love God above all else. And Our Lord reveals that it is he who perseveres to the end who is saved, that Christians who betray Christ to save their lives, end up losing their souls. It is he who preservers to the end who is saved.

Louie

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condor_0000
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Quote from louie6332:
The answer as to why leftists defend Muslims is that yada, yada, yada . . .


Hey good-Christian, right-wing, law-and-order, personal-responsibility-loving Louie, should the evil American gangster-capitalists who are responsible for creating the refugees pay to repair the nations they destroyed which created the refugees, and pay all those refugees the reparations they truly deserve for all the murder and mayhem which the pursuits of those greedy, murderous, destructive, terrorist-loving, criminal capitalists produced?

“Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria.”

— Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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As a leftist, I don't want crazy, god-believing Muslims in America any more than I want crazy, god-believing Christians here. Both are f**king lunatics who embrace an imaginary being as our creator. They're all f**king insane.

What we should do is just force our capitalist billionaires and their political operatives who pushed for imperialist wars in the Middle East to pony up the trillions of dollars they owe for destroying the societies where those Muslims lived and for the killing and torture of millions of Muslims as those billionaire capitalists greedily sought more personal riches. Our capitalist elite committed a major crime against humanity and they should pay the consequences. We need a little "personal responsibility" to be demanded of our capitalist killers, rapists, looters, and thieves.

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louie6332
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Condor, you think we can have peace without God, whom you badmouth and despise, but God reveals that “without God, God the Father, the Creator, the Judeo-Christian God, there is no peace”. Do you seriously think that there is peace under the demon Allah, the ancient “Babylonian god of destruction”? Get real. And, yes, demons do exist, and so does God the Father, the Creator, exist, and Allah is waging war against him even as I write. Go read the Life-After-Death Experiences documented in YouTube videos, if you do not believe God and Heaven and Hell exists, there are tens of thousands of them worldwide. Ignore them at your peril. You are so smug and presumptuous, it boggles the mind.

Condor, in your post, by the term “capitalists”, you are referring to the Satan worshiping Illuminati, the banksters, and their puppets Obama and Hillary. Attempts are being made even as I type to bring Soros down in both Europe and America. But the Muslims were also at fault here, especially Saudi Arabia. Obama, a Wahhabi Sunni Muslim, and a Kenyan born illegal alien, a post turtle of the Illuminati was working with Soros and Saudi Arabia to form a Sunni Caliphate in the Middle East. I know oil was involved in Obama’s war against Syria, but it was more than that, it was an attempt to establish a Sunni Muslim caliphate in the Middle East.

Condor, refresh my memory, as a Godless leftest, did you support Obama and Hillary?

Louie

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condor_0000
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Quote from louie6332:
Condor, you think we can have peace without God, whom you badmouth and despise, but God reveals that “without God, God the Father, the Creator, the Judeo-Christian God, there is no peace”. Do you seriously think that there is peace under the demon Allah, the ancient “Babylonian god of destruction”? Get real. And, yes, demons do exist, and so does God the Father, the Creator, exist, and Allah is waging war against him even as I write. Go read the Life-After-Death Experiences documented in YouTube videos, if you do not believe God and Heaven and Hell exists, there are tens of thousands of them worldwide. Ignore them at your peril. You are so smug and presumptuous, it boggles the mind.

Condor, in your post, by the term “capitalists”, you are referring to the Satan worshiping Illuminati, the banksters, and their puppets Obama and Hillary. Attempts are being made even as I type to bring Soros down in both Europe and America. But the Muslims were also at fault here, especially Saudi Arabia. Obama, a Wahhabi Sunni Muslim, and a Kenyan born illegal alien, a post turtle of the Illuminati was working with Soros and Saudi Arabia to form a Sunni Caliphate in the Middle East. I know oil was involved in Obama’s war against Syria, but it was more than that, it was an attempt to establish a Sunni Muslim caliphate in the Middle East.

Condor, refresh my memory, as a Godless leftest, did you support Obama and Hillary?

Louie


Obama and Hillary are right-wing capitalists. Of course, I didn't vote for them.

Nobody in American politics, nor among America's capitalist ruling-class, conservative nor liberal, Democrat nor Republican, is attempting to stop America's destructive, murderous, refugee-causing, imperialist-minded gangster-capitalists, arrest them, throw them in prison, and force them to pay restitution and reparations for all the destruction and death their greedy pursuits have caused. In fact, you right-wing, "law-and-order," "personal-responsibility-loving," Christian scumbags spend your every breath trying to demonize the victims of their crime spree while letting the capitalist scum off free and clear.

If you really are a Christian and not just a right-wing, Republican sock-puppet, and there truly is a God, you're heading straight to hell, you despicable son-of-a-b*tch.

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fearless8841
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Maybe it's because they consider Muslims the underdog? It's the party of self-righteousness.

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dwwcat
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Any stance against potential rape, murder, assault is attacked by the left...Sad how political correctness and fuzzy feelings rank higher to a lib than a rape victim.

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mz_jeannie_baby
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Quote from dwwcat:
Any stance against potential rape, murder, assault is attacked by the left...Sad how political correctness and fuzzy feelings rank higher to a lib than a rape victim.


So your saying many of these displaced women (children) in the never-ending ill-begotten ME war sold into sex slavery should be afforded sanctuary/asylum in a safe country if possible?

Then we agree.

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m_gonzales
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Quote from dwwcat:
Any stance against potential rape, murder, assault is attacked by the left...Sad how political correctness and fuzzy feelings rank higher to a lib than a rape victim.


"If I only had a brain!"

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mz_jeannie_baby
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
I worked with refugees. Wasn't shit to me.


maniacmassenger
Because your shit just like them.


Always a righteous comment from a self proclaiming Christian--Conservative can be expected.

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louie6332
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Condor, you say: “Obama and Hillary are right-wing capitalists.”

Condor, your calling leftwing rightwing will not persuade Conservatives to switch to being leftwing, you are wasting your breath, Conservatives are not that stupid. When you have to redefine words in an attempt to win an argument, you have lost the argument. Save your breath, you are going to need it when Obama’s leftwing Communist Revolutionaries come to smash your face in.

And you say that “nobody in American politics” is attempting to stop the wars in the Middle East that your beloved left wing communist and Muslim President Obama was waging in the Middle East. That’s a lie, Condor, our beloved rightwing President Trump is. Are you blind, or just dishonest? You know, Condor, come to think of it, I don't think I have ever met an honest leftwinger.

Louie

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mr_bad_robot
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Richard Dawkins was once regarded as an icon until he spoke out against Islam. Let that sink in...

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maniacmassager
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Quote from mz_jeannie_baby:
Quote from scarredandtatto:
I worked with refugees. Wasn't shit to me.


maniacmassenger
Because your shit just like them.


Always a righteous comment from a self proclaiming Christian--Conservative can be expected.


Someone has to set these filthy liberals straight.

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mz_jeannie_baby
Rochester, MI
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Quote from mr_bad_robot:
Richard Dawkins was once regarded as an icon until he spoke out against Islam. Let that sink in...


Fundamentalism in any form is a "disease of all religions"

It sees persons and situations from the narrowest perspective, alienating others who oppose their view while believing this perspective is sanctioned from God.

It justifies killing, bombing (put abortion clinic arsonists in this category) and sees offensive speech as a God given right. No matter who it harms.

a refusal to see refugees as anything other than suffering beings while refusing to help AND find justification for it based on RELIGION is a grotesque fundamentalism that you subscribe to.

how unfortunate to be so messed up and place such a small value on life.

In other words you rationalize a reason not to help in the same way they rationalize their carnage and think they are justified in the Name of God.

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Yasureoktoo
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I see you are not familiar with Islam and the teachings of Muhammed

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annamally
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Quote from mz_jeannie_baby:
Fundamentalism in any form is a "disease of all religions"

It sees persons and situations from the narrowest perspective, alienating others who oppose their view while believing this perspective is sanctioned from God.

It justifies killing, bombing (put abortion clinic arsonists in this category) and sees offensive speech as a God given right. No matter who it harms.

a refusal to see refugees as anything other than suffering beings while refusing to help AND find justification for it based on RELIGION is a grotesque fundamentalism that you subscribe to.

how unfortunate to be so messed up and place such a small value on life.

In other words you rationalize a reason not to help in the same way they rationalize their carnage and think they are justified in the Name of God.



So when the next terror attack happens in the Rochester MI. mall and your child is there and is killed .....

What will you say ?

2/6/2017 8:35:43 PM Tell me why leftists long for Muslims so much? | Page 2  
mz_jeannie_baby
Rochester, MI
57, joined Sep. 2012


Quote from annamally:
So when the next terror attack happens in the Rochester MI. mall and your child is there and is killed .....

What will you say ?



am I to assume the killer is Muslim?

am I to assume the travel ban is not religion based?

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louie6332
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Jeanne, you say: “am I to assume the killer is Muslim? Am I to assume the travel ban is not religion based?”

Jeanne, you have to assume that when Muslims say they are going to kill all non Muslims, they mean it. Killing non Muslims is their religion, their god Allah has commanded them to do this and promised to provide them with 72 virgins to rape in Heaven if they do do this. And the Muslims have certainly given proof that they mean it by actually doing it around the world. A non-Muslim would be a fool to presume that their avowed enemy is not their enemy. How much blood has to flow around the world before you do believe it? Do you think the demon god Alah is called the “god of destruction” for nothing? God has warned Jews and Christians not to trust their enemy, and the Muslims are our avowed enemy. God save us from Liberal bleeding heart women, they act like they don’t have a brain in their head.

Only a fool would want a Muslim who have vowed to kill you living next door to them. Liberals, who are useful idiots for the Communists, are the greatest enemy of America.

Bringing Muslims, our avowed enemies, into this country is treason.

Louie

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winkwink2u
Dacula, GA
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I don't get it either unless their hate for Jesus Christ is that strong..

Muslims faith is far more restrictive than any Judaho Christian belief..

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scarredandtatto
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When I see Lou post, the sound that is in my head is an old goat bawling

Baaw, Baaaaaaaaaaaaw, BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!!