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2/10/2017 11:36:38 AM Islam vs Radical Islam  
Yasureoktoo
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A question I have posted for years, is for someone to explain the difference between Islam, and Radical Islam.

The answers were predictable.

Most just called me names.
Some posted stupid pictures.
Many said what muslims do, diverting the question.

I would like to see an intelligent answer, or intelligent people willing to discuss this with an open mind.
Naturally we will use Islamic sources for all information, and identify what is fact or fiction.

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2/10/2017 12:17:38 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
ron6280a
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There is no radical Islam......it's just islam.
There are radical and non-radical Muslims.

2/10/2017 12:21:42 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
ron6280a
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I was told Christians can also be radical....

True and they look like this: they run around telling everyone that Jesus loves them and passing out Jesus material.

2/10/2017 12:32:42 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  

ludlowlowell
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The radical Muslim throws the bomb. The just-plain-Muslim applauds the bomb thrower, and says praise be to Allah.

2/10/2017 12:42:20 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
ron6280a
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
The radical Muslim throws the bomb. The just-plain-Muslim applauds the bomb thrower, and says praise be to Allah.

Every now and then the plain Muslim will publicly condemn the actions of the radical Muslim....even though they don't really feel that way....to avoid heat on themselves.

2/10/2017 1:37:53 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
Yasureoktoo
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To understand Radical Islam, one must first understand Islam.

Only then, can they attempt to look at the breakaway cults and versions, that are bred from it. When speaking to a Muslim, you are speaking to one of the many tails of the dragon, and you will get his version, regardless of how much he believes his is the true one.

Islam is cast in stone, in the works of

the Qur'an...Mindless babble and regurgitated plagerisms of the OT and Nt.

Ishaq's Sira,.. Islams first documentation, and the only biography of Muhammed written within 200 years of his lifetime

The history of Al Taburi, another bio of Muhammed.

Bukhari, 7000 hadieths printed of 600,000 collected, almost 300 years after the fact.
Seems there was a whole lot of bullshiting going on.

Muslim, Muslim was a student of Bukhari.

2/10/2017 1:42:04 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  

ludlowlowell
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There are secularists who live in predominantly Muslim countries who do not believe in Islam. (They keep a low profile, go figure.) But the moderate Muslim, the peace-loving but true-believing Muslim? These are few and far between, unfortunately.

2/10/2017 3:16:14 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
cupocheer
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OP -- explain why you wouldn't have know about whether or not a Muslim could eat pork?

"Jim"

2/10/2017 4:37:07 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
Yasureoktoo
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Get serious.
Muslims are not allowed to eat pork, Probably originated from their Jewish roots in Yathrub, but there are some obscure circomstances where they can.

2/10/2017 4:51:12 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
ron6280a
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I didn't know Muslims can eat pork....but i know they cornhole goats.

2/10/2017 7:15:27 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
cupocheer
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Get serious.
Muslims are not allowed to eat pork, Probably originated from their Jewish roots in Yathrub, but there are some obscure circomstances where they can.


Where does it say Muslims are not permitted to eat pork?

2/10/2017 7:26:56 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
Yasureoktoo
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Qur'an

Bukhari

Muslim

Want me to look up the verses for you.

It is also written about by countless rulers of the day.

2/10/2017 7:29:47 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
Yasureoktoo
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BTW, in Ishaq, written before Qur'an, Bukhari, and Muslims, the Meccans did eat pork, including Big Mo.

2/10/2017 7:32:18 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
cupocheer
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
Qur'an

Bukhari

Muslim

Want me to look up the verses for you.

It is also written about by countless rulers of the day.


No, thanks. I know what the Qu'ran says, since you apparently don't.

I said to let me know where it says Muslims may not eat pork.

2/10/2017 7:53:00 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
Yasureoktoo
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This is one of them


He has only forbidden you what dies of itself, and blood, and flesh of swine, and that over which any other (name) than (that of) Allah has been invoked; but whoever is driven to necessity, not desiring, nor exceeding the limit, no sin shall be upon him; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.


Qur'an 2.173

2/10/2017 7:54:32 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
cupocheer
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
This is one of them


He has only forbidden you what dies of itself, and blood, and flesh of swine, and that over which any other (name) than (that of) Allah has been invoked; but whoever is driven to necessity, not desiring, nor exceeding the limit, no sin shall be upon him; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.


Qur'an 2.173


How about that? So Muslims CAN eat pork. Thank you for that clarification.

2/10/2017 8:19:13 PM Islam vs Radical Islam  
Yasureoktoo
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To ignorant to respond.

2/19/2017 5:41:07 AM Islam vs Radical Islam  

ludlowlowell
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I was looking at a youtube video and I saw a man who had a very interesting suggestion---he suggested rubbing pork fat or bacon grease on all bullets shot at Muslims in war, because Muslims believe that such a bullet hitting them will cause them to go to Hell. This will, in the man's opinion, will cause Muslim doldiers to panic and run.

What do y'all think about that?

2/19/2017 6:22:13 AM Islam vs Radical Islam  
cupocheer
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Happy Sunday, all.