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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
I am not making any excuses. Like I said before I have already responded to your question(s) of how I felt about the situation several times in the past and since you do not want to accept my response then that is your problem.

Why don't you stop LYING and tell me what you disagree with what I said?

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
Why don't you stop LYING and tell me what you disagree with what I said?

I am not lying. I know without a doubt that I responded to your question(s) several times in the past. It is not my problem that my response was not good enough for you.

By the way - you keep saying to believe as Jesus believed so perhaps you need to take heed to what Jesus is speaking about below concerning individuals like yourself who think they are so righteous that they no longer have anything to confess. In other words - it might be wise for you to take a good look in the mirror instead of trying to find fault with someone else.




Explanation for (Luke 18:9-14) from http://htmlbible.com/kjv30/henry/index.htm

Verse 9-14 - This parable was to convince some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others. God sees with what disposition and design we come to him in holy ordinances. What the Pharisee said, shows that he trusted to himself that he was righteous. We may suppose he was free from gross and scandalous sins. All this was very well and commendable. Miserable is the condition of those who come short of the righteousness of this Pharisee, yet he was not accepted; and why not? He went up to the temple to pray, but was full of himself and his own goodness; the favour and grace of God he did not think worth asking. Let us beware of presenting proud devotions to the Lord, and of despising others. The publican's address to God was full of humility, and of repentance for sin, and desire toward God. His prayer was short, but to the purpose; God be merciful to me a sinner. Blessed be God, that we have this short prayer upon record, as an answered prayer; and that we are sure that he who prayed it, went to his house justified; for so shall we be, if we pray it, as he did, through Jesus Christ. He owned himself a sinner by nature, by practice, guilty before God. He had no dependence but upon the mercy of God; upon that alone he relied. And God's glory is to resist the proud, and give grace to the humble. Justification is of God in Christ; therefore the self-condemned, and not the self-righteous, are justified before God.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
I am not lying. I know without a doubt that I responded to your question(s) several times in the past.

What questions are you talking about? You answer very few questions, slowpoke. You usually evade them time and time again and ultimately end by saying you believe what you believe and I believe what I believe and you are not going to change so there is no need asking you anymore and that's essentially what you are saying now, slowpoke.

So stop lying and evading and state whatever disagreement you have with what I said, slowpoke.

Quote from kb2222:

It should be obvious to all God/Jesus loving and sane people on this site that it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons and to slaughter men, women, children, infants and even animals in the name of God. That's not the nature of God that Jesus came into the world and revealed and if you so-called Christians can't accept what Jesus revealed you most certainly are NOT His followers.

Christians should be striving to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him - and this cannot be done without rejecting all scripture in the book the church compiled that is incompatible with His teachings.

If you disagree with the above, slowpoke, then step up and say why?

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slowpoke7
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kb - I still say it would be wise for you to take a good look in the mirror instead of trying to find fault with someone else.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
kb - I still say it would be wise for you to take a good look in the mirror instead of trying to find fault with someone else.

There is nothing wrong with trying to get a honest response from you so stop lying and evading and state whatever disagreement you have with what I said, slowpoke

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
There is nothing wrong with trying to get a honest response from you so stop lying and evading and state whatever disagreement you have with what I said, slowpoke


You need to be careful when it comes to calling someone a liar. I have never said that I agreed or disagreed and I am not going to do so either. But I did give an honest response to your question(s) of how I felt about the situation but my response was not good enough for you. What about you? Do you think you qualify to be passing judgment on what God should or should not do?

by the way - how come you are not making any comments about what Jesus is saying in Luke 18:9-14

I still say it would be wise for you to take a good look in the mirror instead of trying to find fault with someone else.

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kb2222
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There is nothing wrong with trying to get a honest response from you so stop lying and evading and state whatever disagreement you have with what I said, slowpoke.

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
There is nothing wrong with trying to get a honest response from you so stop lying and evading and state whatever disagreement you have with what I said, slowpoke.

Tell me kb - what am I lying about?

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Tell me kb - what am I lying about?

You LIE when you say you have responded to my questions. Evading answering questions is not responding to questions. What the hell is the matter with you that you consistently can't bring yourself to honestly answer questions, slowpoke? Why in the hell do you always run from speaking truthfully and sincerely from the heart? What is it about speaking the truth that you can't stand, slowpoke?

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_ladybug_
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Sounds like someone has a lot of self-righteous pride so perhaps it would be wise for this individual to pay close attention to what it is saying in verse 8

1st John 1:5-10
(5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

(6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

(7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

(8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

(9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

(10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.




Explanation for (1st John 1:5-10) from http://htmlbible.com/kjv30/henry/index.htm

Verse 5-10 - A message from the Lord Jesus, the Word of life, the eternal Word, we should all gladly receive. The great God should be represented to this dark world, as pure and perfect light. As this is the nature of God, his doctrines and precepts must be such. And as his perfect happiness cannot be separated from his perfect holiness, so our happiness will be in proportion to our being made holy. To walk in darkness, is to live and act against religion. God holds no heavenly fellowship or intercourse with unholy souls. There is no truth in their profession; their practice shows its folly and falsehood. The eternal Life, the eternal Son, put on flesh and blood, and died to wash us from our sins in his own blood, and procures for us the sacred influences by which sin is to be subdued more and more, till it is quite done away. While the necessity of a holy walk is insisted upon, as the effect and evidence of the knowledge of God in Christ Jesus, the opposite error of self-righteous pride is guarded against with equal care. All who walk near to God, in holiness and righteousness, are sensible that their best days and duties are mixed with sin. God has given testimony to the sinfulness of the world, by providing a sufficient, effectual Sacrifice for sin, needed in all ages; and the sinfulness of believers themselves is shown, by requiring them continually to confess their sins, and to apply by faith to the blood of that Sacrifice. Let us plead guilty before God, be humble, and willing to know the worst of our case. Let us honestly confess all our sins in their full extent, relying wholly on his mercy and truth through the righteousness of Christ, for a free and full forgiveness, and our deliverance from the power and practice of sin.


Amen Slowpoke!

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
You LIE when you say you have responded to my questions. Evading answering questions is not responding to questions. What the hell is the matter with you that you consistently can't bring yourself to honestly answer questions, slowpoke? Why in the hell do you always run from speaking truthfully and sincerely from the heart? What is it about speaking the truth that you can't stand, slowpoke?

No kb - that is not a lie. A person does not have to give a Yes or No answer in order for it to be a response. A response can be if someone just wants to let it be known that they rather not say one way or another.

Do you not understand that if someone feels like they do not qualify to be passing judgment on what God should or should not do then it would be improper for that individual to give an absolute Yes or No answer?

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
No kb - that is not a lie. A person does not have to give a Yes or No answer in order for it to be a response. A response can be if someone just wants to let it be known that they rather not say one way or another.

Do you not understand that if someone feels like they do not qualify to be passing judgment on what God should or should not do then it would be improper for that individual to give an absolute Yes or No answer?

You are doing the same thing now that you have done for years, slowpoke. Evading the issue. I haven't asked you a yes or no question and what the hell makes you think if you truthfully respond you are passing judgment on God? Your evasive nonsense is just that and you have been doing it for years.

AGAIN: Quote from kb2222:

It should be obvious to all God/Jesus loving and sane people on this site that it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons and to slaughter men, women, children, infants and even animals in the name of God. That's not the nature of God that Jesus came into the world and revealed and if you so-called Christians can't accept what Jesus revealed you most certainly are NOT His followers.

Christians should be striving to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him - and this cannot be done without rejecting all scripture in the book the church compiled that is incompatible with His teachings.

What is your disagreement with what I said, slowpoke?



[Edited 3/6/2017 8:48:02 PM ]

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
You are doing the same thing now that you have done for years, slowpoke. Evading the issue. I haven't asked you a yes or no question and what the hell makes you think if you truthfully respond you are passing judgment on God? Your evasive nonsense is just that and you have been doing it for years.

AGAIN: Quote from kb2222:

It should be obvious to all God/Jesus loving and sane people on this site that it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons and to slaughter men, women, children, infants and even animals in the name of God. That's not the nature of God that Jesus came into the world and revealed and if you so-called Christians can't accept what Jesus revealed you most certainly are NOT His followers.

Christians should be striving to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him - and this cannot be done without rejecting all scripture in the book the church compiled that is incompatible with His teachings.

What is your disagreement with what I said, slowpoke?

You are trying to put words in my mouth. I did not say passing judgment on God. I am just saying it is not our place to be judging what God should or should not do.

It is the same thing whether it be Yes or No or Agree or Disagree. Whichever of those terms that an individual may decide to use is the same thing as that individual passing judgment on what they personally think God should or should not do.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
You are trying to put words in my mouth. I did not say passing judgment on God. I am just saying it is not our place to be judging what God should or should not do.

It is the same thing whether it be Yes or No or Agree or Disagree. Whichever of those terms that an individual may decide to use is the same thing as that individual passing judgment on what they personally think God should or should not do.

Stop deluding yourself. According to what you say how could you ever claim to know good from evil, righteousness from wickedness or what to believe about what Jesus taught verses what the Pharisees believed? That's just deluded evasive nonsense. Why don't you stop deceitfully squirming around and act like a Christian and honestly say what your disagreement is with what I said?

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slowpoke7
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If we are to believe as Jesus believed then what does Jesus believe according to the scriptures below?




Explanation for (Luke 18:9-14) from http://htmlbible.com/kjv30/henry/index.htm

Verse 9-14 - This parable was to convince some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others. God sees with what disposition and design we come to him in holy ordinances. What the Pharisee said, shows that he trusted to himself that he was righteous. We may suppose he was free from gross and scandalous sins. All this was very well and commendable. Miserable is the condition of those who come short of the righteousness of this Pharisee, yet he was not accepted; and why not? He went up to the temple to pray, but was full of himself and his own goodness; the favour and grace of God he did not think worth asking. Let us beware of presenting proud devotions to the Lord, and of despising others. The publican's address to God was full of humility, and of repentance for sin, and desire toward God. His prayer was short, but to the purpose; God be merciful to me a sinner. Blessed be God, that we have this short prayer upon record, as an answered prayer; and that we are sure that he who prayed it, went to his house justified; for so shall we be, if we pray it, as he did, through Jesus Christ. He owned himself a sinner by nature, by practice, guilty before God. He had no dependence but upon the mercy of God; upon that alone he relied. And God's glory is to resist the proud, and give grace to the humble. Justification is of God in Christ; therefore the self-condemned, and not the self-righteous, are justified before God.
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ludlowlowell
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Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Urantiaist, one a Catholic.

The Urantiaist prayed thusly: "I thank my 700,000 gods that UI am not like this Catholic, who is so sinful that he has to go to Confession regularly. I am righteous. I have put all my sins behind me. Futhermore I am white and Anglo-Saxon---the best genes in the world, and among those nasty Catholics are Mexicans, Cubans, Filipinos, and Africans, all kinds of inferior and degenerate strains of peoples."

The Catholic stayed in the back, beat his breast, and simply said "Lord, have mercy on me a sinner."

Which one do you think went home justified?

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isna_la_wica
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Quote from slowpoke7:


Commiting Sin is not something that is past tense only as some self-righteous individuals claim it to be.

According to (1st John 1:8) a person would be deceiving themselves and not telling the truth if he or she claim that they no longer sin.

As for myself I know that I am still a sinner regardless of how I try to live so I thank you JESUS for shedding your precious blood on the cross for sinners like me.


I agree.

Even if one does do actions that are a sin, we still sin because our thoughts and intentions are not always pure, and we 'miss the mark by failing to do as much as we could.

Hebrews 9:26 Amplified Bible (AMP)

26 Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer over and over since the foundation of the world; but now once for all at the consummation of the ages He has appeared and been publicly manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

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cupocheer
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Urantiaist, one a Catholic.

The Urantiaist prayed thusly: "I thank my 700,000 gods that UI am not like this Catholic, who is so sinful that he has to go to Confession regularly. I am righteous. I have put all my sins behind me. Futhermore I am white and Anglo-Saxon---the best genes in the world, and among those nasty Catholics are Mexicans, Cubans, Filipinos, and Africans, all kinds of inferior and degenerate strains of peoples."

The Catholic stayed in the back, beat his breast, and simply said "Lord, have mercy on me a sinner."

Which one do you think went home justified?


Both when they accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and were saved by the grace of God. Amen.

It only takes the faith tgevsute of a mustard seed.



[Edited 3/7/2017 5:26:11 PM ]

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ludlowlowell
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But Cup, faith without works is dead.

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cupocheer
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Death is a given since Adam & Eve, LUD.

Faith is the belief of eternal life as promised by God.

God cannot take away his gift of salvation once given.

I had the faith to believe what God promised and I shall carry that faith with me into eternity.

It's personal, LUD. Between me and God. I don't need to display external works to the world to gloat over. I am saved by the grace of God. Amen.



[LUD, James was telling the outlying 12 tribes to get out into the mission field and find the lost souls and lead them to God's kingdom. He was warning the tribes if they didn't keep the teachings of Jesus before the people "Christianity" would be dead.]

Pray, LUD. God will show you the truth.

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ludlowlowell
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Faith without works is dead, says, not me, says, the scriptures.

You might be doing more good works than you realize. Jesus says that even the smallest good work, even just giving someone a glass of water, gains us a reward in Heaven.

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share_n_love
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Fort Wayne, IN
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Quote from slowpoke7:
No kb - that is not a lie. A person does not have to give a Yes or No answer in order for it to be a response. A response can be if someone just wants to let it be known that they rather not say one way or another.

Do you not understand that if someone feels like they do not qualify to be passing judgment on what God should or should not do then it would be improper for that individual to give an absolute Yes or No answer?


I would not waste my time battling with kb.

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kb2222
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sharenlove from behind her block says:
I would not waste my time battling with kb

Sorry, you feel it is a waste of time to discern and inculcate the true loving and caring nature of God that Jesus came into the world to bear witness to.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:


Commiting Sin is not something that is past tense only as some self-righteous individuals claim it to be.

According to (1st John 1:8) a person would be deceiving themselves and not telling the truth if he or she claim that they no longer sin.

As for myself I know that I am still a sinner regardless of how I try to live so I thank you JESUS for shedding your precious blood on the cross for sinners like me.

Are you claiming it was folly for Jesus to claim his death was for the remission of sin because its not possible for man to no longer sin?

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
Do you not understand that if someone feels like they do not qualify to be passing judgment on what God should or should not do then it would be improper for that individual to give an absolute Yes or No answer?

How is it you profess to be a Christian but claim you are not qualified to say what you believe Jesus would or would not do?

AGAIN: Quote from kb2222:

It should be obvious to all God/Jesus loving and sane people on this site that it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons and to slaughter men, women, children, infants and even animals in the name of God. That's not the nature of God that Jesus came into the world and revealed and if you so-called Christians can't accept what Jesus revealed you most certainly are NOT His followers.

Christians should be striving to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him - and this cannot be done without rejecting all scripture in the book the church compiled that is incompatible with His teachings.

What is your disagreement with what I said, slowpoke?

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slowpoke7
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Quote from kb2222:
How is it you profess to be a Christian but claim you are not qualified to say what you believe Jesus would or would not do?

You are still trying to put words in my mouth. I did not say I am not qualified to say what I "believe" Jesus would or would not do. I clearly said I do not qualify to be "judging" what God "should" or "should not" do.




AGAIN: Quote from kb2222:

It should be obvious to all God/Jesus loving and sane people on this site that it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons and to slaughter men, women, children, infants and even animals in the name of God. That's not the nature of God that Jesus came into the world and revealed and if you so-called Christians can't accept what Jesus revealed you most certainly are NOT His followers.

Christians should be striving to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him - and this cannot be done without rejecting all scripture in the book the church compiled that is incompatible with His teachings.

Talking about believing as Jesus believed then how come you seem to think what Jesus is saying in Luke 18:9-14 does not apply to you?

What is your disagreement with what I said, slowpoke?

Pay close attention kb - I have made it clear that I do not quality to be judging what God should or should not do. That is my honest opinion and if you do not have the decency to accept my personal view concerning this issue then that is your problem.

I say enough is enough already, I have no intention of saying anything different concerning this issue so if you continue to push this issue with me then you will be blocked.

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kb2222
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Quote from slowpoke7:
You are still trying to put words in my mouth. I did not say I am not qualified to say what I "believe" Jesus would or would not do. I clearly said I do not qualify to be "judging" what God "should" or "should not" do.

I am not putting words in your mouth and there is no real distinction between what you "believe" Jesus would or would not do and you "judging" what Jesus should or should not do. You are just a deceitful man who has squirmed around for years now evading a sincere and truthful conversation, slowpoke, and its surely okay with me that you block me. I tire of your deceitful ways. I tire of you professing to be a Christian and claiming you don't know what Jesus would or should do. Whether He would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all sorts of absurd reasons. If you don't know then why do you profess to be a Christian, slowpoke?

It is damn despicable that you "Christians" pretend not to know that it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake and don't even know whether or not that is what Jesus would order man to do.

Satan has you and "Christians" like you where he wants you. You are morally confused, spiritually stagnant, dishonest, blasphemous and failing to inculcate the teachings of Jesus who you profess to follow into your heart, mind and soul.

Go ahead and block me, slow, like you block out the Holy Spirit of truth that speaks within with your pretending not to know right from wrong, good from evil, righteousness from wickedness, when it conflicts with your church indoctrinated/subordinated mind that the Bible is all Gods word/truth no matter what it says or what Jesus taught or even the evolved laws of civilized society.



[Edited 3/8/2017 12:56:28 PM ]

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kb2222
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Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Society knows it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake for any reason let alone all these absurd reasons so how is it you professed "Christians" claim you don't know it?



[Edited 3/8/2017 1:07:51 PM ]

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slowpoke7
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kb2222
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Why do you thank Jesus for dying for the remission of sin when you claim its not possible for man to no longer sin, slowpoke?

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freegratis
Irving, TX
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Quote from kb2222:
Why do you thank Jesus for dying for the remission of sin when you claim its not possible for man to no longer sin, slowpoke?


Wow KB.

Since we will sin today, we thank Jesus for forgiving us. You know...the wages of sin is death, but Jesus died in our place, or else we would have to die to pay for our own sin.

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ludlowlowell
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There are two kinds of people in the world, those who think they are good, and those who think they are sinners. Only the second kind of people have a shot at salvation,according to Jesus.

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freegratis
Irving, TX
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
There are two kinds of people in the world, those who think they are good, and those who think they are sinners. Only the second kind of people have a shot at salvation,according to Jesus.




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kb2222
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Quote from freegratis:
Wow KB.

Since we will sin today, we thank Jesus for forgiving us. You know...the wages of sin is death, but Jesus died in our place, or else we would have to die to pay for our own sin.

What sin did you commit today?

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kb2222
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
There are two kinds of people in the world, those who think they are good, and those who think they are sinners. Only the second kind of people have a shot at salvation,according to Jesus.

What the hell is wrong with you Ludlow that you don't believe it is possible to turn away from sin? What do you go to confession for if the act of repenting has no meaning to you? Was Mary a sinner? Were the Disciples all still sinners? Why do you think no one can stop sinning? If that were the case then it was folly for Jesus to supposedly die for the "remission" of sin. You church indoctrinated book Christians are so screwed up you even pretend not to know its horrible inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake and BLASPHEMOUS to assert and teach that is what Jesus would order man to do. God help you all to see the error (evil) of your ways before you go to judgment.

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ludlowlowell
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There are different degrees of sin, KB. Many have turned from their grosser (mortal) sins, but very, very few are free from minor faults and failings (venial sin). According to the Church's teaching venial sins can be forgiven by asking God directly for forgiveness,but the Church recommends that they be confessed to a priest, so the priest can advise and counsel us, and for for the graces one gets from going to Confession.

Jesus never went to Confession Himself. Neither did Mary. But they were perfect. KB, if you are perfect, you don't have to go to Confession either.

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kb2222
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No doubt there are different degrees of sin, Ludlow, but for you and your Catholic church to declare and teach it was righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons I have many times posted and to declare that is what Jesus would order man to do regardless of what Jesus actually taught clearly shows how warped minded and corrupt you and your self-serving Catholic church really are.

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ludlowlowell
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What did Jesus actually teach? Love, peace, brotherhood, and forgiveness of sin? Yes. So He must be a little milquetoast who just lazily forgives everyone, whether contrite or not, right? Wrong.

Jesus forgives REPENTANT sinners only. The rest, which are the vast majority, receive no forgiveness---in fact they spend an eternity in Hell. If Kesus can send thousands of people to Hell every day without batting an eye He can certainly command ancient Israelites to burn and stone sinners. Because of those stonings and burnings, maybe people repented, and escaped the much worse punishment of Hell.

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kb2222
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You are such a corrupt sick man to spew out the blasphemous crap you do, Ludlow. You don't know or don't care whether actions are righteous or wicked as long as they are attributed to God/Jesus in the book the church compiled. For you and your corrupt church to still be teaching that it was righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons and that is what Jesus did in fact order man to do is nothing but sick inexcusable blasphemous satanic teaching.

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ludlowlowell
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What is the bladphemy here, KB? God is very kind and merciful to tepentant sinners, and literally Hell on unrepentant sinners. If you are a repentant sinner, you have nothing to worry about.

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kb2222
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You are a corrupt sick man, Ludlow. You don't know that Jesus "sends thousands of people to Hell every day without batting an eye" and I told you why you and your historically murderous self-serving Catholic church are satanic.

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ludlowlowell
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God is a God of justice. If you want to call that satanic, no one will stop you, but you are wrong. Justice is a good thing.

God is also a God of mercy, but only to those who repent with their whole hearts.

Some think God is harsh and mean for sending souls to Hell. Others think God is a wimpy little marshmallow who forgives all, repentant or not. The truth is in between.

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kb2222
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Quote from kb2222:
You are a corrupt sick man, Ludlow. You don't know that Jesus "sends thousands of people to Hell every day without batting an eye" and I told you why you and your historically murderous self-serving Catholic church are satanic.


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ludlowlowell
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God is just. Sorry if you don't like it.

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kb2222
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You are such a corrupt sick man to continue to unashamedly spew out the blasphemous crap you do, Ludlow. You don't know that Jesus "sends thousands of people to Hell every day without batting an eye." You don't know or don't care whether actions are righteous or wicked as long as they are attributed to God/Jesus in the book the church compiled. For you and your corrupt church to still be teaching that it was righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons and that is what Jesus did in fact order man to do is nothing but sick inexcusable blasphemous satanic teaching.

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ludlowlowell
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If you're not offending somebody somewhere, you're not a true Christian. Look how many people Jesus offended.

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slowpoke7
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Don’t Forget To Change Your Clocks Ahead One Hour for Daylight Savings Time.

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slowpoke7
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clarity101
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that is awesome! thanks for sharing

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kb2222
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Slowpoke, why do you thank Jesus for dying for the remission of sin when you claim its not possible for man to "no longer sin"?

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ludlowlowell
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From Jesus' suffering and death the human race gains the potential grace to live a sinless life. Faith in Christ, which includes faith in Christ's sacraments, and the worthy reception of those sacraments, applies grace to individual souls. If the person perseveres in the state of grace, avoiding sin (at least mortal sin) and by doing works of charity for other human beings, the person will be saved when his soul passes this life.



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slowpoke7
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Quote from clarity101:


that is awesome! thanks for sharing




Thank you Jesus for the love you have for us that you willingly laid down your life on the cross in order to provide a way (thru your shed blood) for our sins to be forgiven.

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cupocheer
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Amen and Amen

Praise God

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kb2222
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Jacksonville, FL
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
From Jesus' suffering and death the human race gains the potential grace to live a sinless life. Faith in Christ, which includes faith in Christ's sacraments, and the worthy reception of those sacraments, applies grace to individual souls. If the person perseveres in the state of grace, avoiding sin (at least mortal sin) and by doing works of charity for other human beings, the person will be saved when his soul passes this life.

So God wouldn't grant man the "grace to live a sinless life" and forgive man for sin until He received the horrible torturous blood offering of His Son and all the religious rituals and dogma enacted by the Catholic church which for a thousand years tortured and murdered untold thousands of people who as you say wouldn't accept the RCC offer of "love and peace"?

Ludlow, your mind is perverted and blasphemous. Case in point.

Quote from kb2222:
Yes. Are you aware that Jesus revealed Gods true loving and caring nature?

Quote from ludlowlowell:
Yes, I am aware of that. Because of His loving and caring nature God forgives repentant sinners.

And you believe this same Jesus who taught love, forgiveness and brotherhood ordered man to stone and burn to death at the stake those who commit these offenses without any opportunity to change or repent?

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Answer the question, Ludlow.

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ludlowlowell
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1. I have answered that question, many times.

2. You aren't the state attorney, you aren't a grand jury, you do not have the power of subpoena and no one has to answer your questions.

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cupocheer
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Which question Lud?

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kb2222
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
1. I have answered that question, many times.

2. You aren't the state attorney, you aren't a grand jury, you do not have the power of subpoena and no one has to answer your questions.

You profess to be a Christian and you acknowledge that Jesus revealed the true loving and caring nature of God so answer the question for the benefit of any new members, Ludlow.

Do you believe this same Jesus who taught love, forgiveness and brotherhood ordered man to stone and burn to death at the stake those who commit these offenses without any opportunity to change or repent, Ludlow?

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ludlowlowell
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God forgives repentant sinners.

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cupocheer
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God has already forgiven sinners by sacrificing His only begotten son Jesus Christ to die an earthy, physical death to ensure humankind's eternal spiritual life is they believed this is so. John 3:16


Praise God.