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4/7/2017 1:21:02 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

M4mischief
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U.S. launches missiles on Syria in response to deadly gas attack


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-fires-cruise-missiles-at-air-base-in-syria/article34618110/




The United States blasted a Syrian air base with a barrage of cruise missiles Friday morning in fiery retaliation for this week’s gruesome chemical weapons attack against civilians. President Donald Trump cast the U.S. assault as vital to deter future use of poison gas and called on other nations to join in seeking “to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria.”


The U.S. strikes — some 59 missiles launched from the USS Ross and USS Porter — hit the government-controlled Shayrat air base in central Syria, where U.S. officials say the Syrian military planes that dropped the chemicals had taken off. The U.S. missiles hit at 8:45 p.m. in Washington, 3:45 Friday morning in Syria. The missiles targeted the base’s airstrips, hangars, control tower and ammunition areas, officials said.

Trump ordered the strikes without approval from Congress or the backing of the United Nations. U.S. officials said he had the right to use force to defend national interests and to protect civilians from atrocities.



Do you think Assad needs to go after the latest gas attack on civilians and was this strike warranted?




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4/7/2017 1:37:13 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Ahh gotta love a dictatorship. Which to me this is. He has no respect for congress or The united nations. That spells trouble in itself of heading for a dictatorship.

4/7/2017 1:38:13 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
bluesrule
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Apparently you must be blocked or have the OP blocked of the other thread where we have been discussing this for the last several hours.





4/7/2017 1:41:09 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

M4mischief
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Yeah he didn't get congressional or u.n. approval...so I wonder how he is going to justify it...although I don't blame him....im glad to see he took a hard line on assad since the gas attack....






Apparently I must be blue...ohhhh wellllll its not the first time there is more than one thread...I just read about it and didn't see a thread so I posted it..no biggy....

4/7/2017 1:50:43 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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I just think he's wreckless and like with his mouth he doesn't think things through before he speaks or acts. I am not sure he can justify not going to congress and The united nations. That's why I said it's dictatorship.

Was he right to do so. I think differently. Attacking and defending are two totally different things. Personally, I think he's flexing his muscles without the thought of consquence. He may use the excuse it was to deter but for me it spells war.

Maybe Syria thought the same after all the attacks on their innocents

4/7/2017 1:58:02 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

joey1331
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no one ever shoots missles at us

4/7/2017 2:01:17 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
justaspypro
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Good job trump. Someone had to do something. Didn't appear anyone else was getting any where

4/7/2017 2:04:31 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

stratus55
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flirty hunny,sometimes might is right,an yes go after the others too..


but in the right way,an dont take all day..

4/7/2017 2:08:35 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
bluesrule
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"The United States has not formally declared war since World War II. Under Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, Congress has sole power "to declare war [and] grant letters of marque and reprisal." But Article II, Section 2 provides that "The president shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." While it's clear that the Framers intended for Congress alone to declare war, presidents don't always check with Congress before acting. After President Harry Truman bypassed Congress to go to war in Korea, presidents have paid almost no attention to the constitutional requirements.


In 1973, Congress passed the War Powers Act in response to President Lyndon Johnson and President Richard Nixon's prosecution of the war in Vietnam without a congressional declaration. Under the War Powers Act, the president has 90 days AFTER introducing troops into hostilities to obtain congressional approval of that action."


24 members of Congress, from both parties, were informed beforehand of Trumps intention. And to answer your question..... of course it was warranted. Assad violated international law and every moral law by gassing his own people.

4/7/2017 2:10:57 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
thepizzalover
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Executive decision vs dictatorship. In this case, I think Trump played it safe than sorry. We cannot underestimate other countries. We must show them why we Americans are bullies. Execute and terminate now, ask questions later. That's the american way.

4/7/2017 2:12:54 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
scoobs78
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Quote from joey1331:
no one ever shoots missles at us


That f**ktard in N. Korea is testing missles now to provoke us!

These retards are testing trump just to see what he will do!

Trump has some splainin' to do after this! Putin needs to be taken outta power too! He's an antagonist too!

I was watching CNN and that's when I heard about the missle attacks

4/7/2017 2:14:10 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
scoobs78
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Quote from thepizzalover:
Executive decision vs dictatorship. In this case, I think Trump played it safe than sorry. We cannot underestimate other countries. We must show them why we Americans are bullies. Execute and terminate now, ask questions later. That's the american way.


Shoot first dodge questions later!

4/7/2017 2:14:59 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Quote from thepizzalover:
Executive decision vs dictatorship. In this case, I think Trump played it safe than sorry. We cannot underestimate other countries. We must show them why we Americans are bullies. Execute and terminate now, ask questions later. That's the american way.


And it doesn't matter about the innocent people that die in the process?

You'll think of your innocent people, but not theirs and they think of theirs not yours.

Bullies

There is a reason for congress and The united nations. Hitler was the same. Look what happened there.

Anyway interesting thread Flirty

4/7/2017 2:16:02 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
scoobs78
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U.S. launches missiles on Syria in response to deadly gas attack


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/us-fires-cruise-missiles-at-air-base-in-syria/article34618110/




The United States blasted a Syrian air base with a barrage of cruise missiles Friday morning in fiery retaliation for this week’s gruesome chemical weapons attack against civilians. President Donald Trump cast the U.S. assault as vital to deter future use of poison gas and called on other nations to join in seeking “to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria.”


The U.S. strikes — some 59 missiles launched from the USS Ross and USS Porter — hit the government-controlled Shayrat air base in central Syria, where U.S. officials say the Syrian military planes that dropped the chemicals had taken off. The U.S. missiles hit at 8:45 p.m. in Washington, 3:45 Friday morning in Syria. The missiles targeted the base’s airstrips, hangars, control tower and ammunition areas, officials said.

Trump ordered the strikes without approval from Congress or the backing of the United Nations. U.S. officials said he had the right to use force to defend national interests and to protect civilians from atrocities.



Do you think Assad needs to go after the latest gas attack on civilians and was this strike warranted?




IMHO....yes! Killing little kids like that is horrific and killing ur own people over the past 7yrs? What does he think he's gonna get outta doing that?

4/7/2017 2:21:09 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
thepizzalover
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Hitler was from Germany, not America. Two totally different perceptions dear. @rach

4/7/2017 2:21:56 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
thepizzalover
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Quote from scoobs78:
Shoot first dodge questions later!


I like this guy.

4/7/2017 2:23:53 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
bluesrule
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
And it doesn't matter about the innocent people that die in the process?

You'll think of your innocent people, but not theirs and they think of theirs not yours.

Bullies

There is a reason for congress and The united nations. Hitler was the same. Look what happened there.

Anyway interesting thread Flirty



Seriously? Where has your concern been for the last several years while Assad has been dropping barrel gas bombs and murdering his own people? You think he gave a shit about all those innocent lives? Innocent lives lost by his hand and those countries ( Russia and Iran would be two ) that support him.





4/7/2017 2:27:16 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Ha Daryl I am aware where Hitler was from and ruled. It isn't different to me. There is a reason for congress and The united nations. It is about everyone's best interest not just one person's decision and consquences taken into consideration.

There is also a reason as shown above why I don't like Trump and he is notorious for not thinking first.

4/7/2017 2:30:17 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Quote from bluesrule:
Seriously? Where has your concern been for the last several years while Assad has been dropping barrel gas bombs and murdering his own people? You think he gave a shit about all those innocent lives? Innocent lives lost by his hand and those countries ( Russia and Iran would be two ) that support him.





So in your mind sod their innocent people aswell. Excellent theory. I happen to care both sides when innocent people are murdered.

I don't care who supports him. I care about the people who are dying. This isn't defence Blue, it's an attack and a start of escalation.

4/7/2017 2:46:33 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
bluesrule
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
So in your mind sod their innocent people aswell. Excellent theory. I happen to care both sides when innocent people are murdered.

I don't care who supports him. I care about the people who are dying. This isn't defence Blue, it's an attack and a start of escalation.



It was an attack on a Syrian airbase staffed with Assads' airforce and Russian forces. NOT innocent civilians. The airbase where the Russians watched as that airplane was loaded with its' deadly cargo and than launched and unleashed on innocent lives. A message to Assad and his cohorts and a determent not to use chemical weapons again. We could have taken out all 6 air bases in one swoop if war is what we were wanting. Escalation? Good god woman, what rock have you been hiding under? Escalation would be gassing your own people! What has your country done to prevent these atrocities? Oh that's right...... nothing.

4/7/2017 2:52:25 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
justaspypro
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Very true

4/7/2017 3:06:15 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

bumblebee7
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Quote from M4mischief:
Yeah he didn't get congressional or u.n. approval...so I wonder how he is going to justify it...although I don't blame him....im glad to see he took a hard line on assad since the gas attack....






Apparently I must be blue...ohhhh wellllll its not the first time there is more than one thread...I just read about it and didn't see a thread so I posted it..no biggy....


He doesn't need approval...because we are already at war over there.

If we weren't already at war in that region...then he would need approval.

Obama didn't need approval for such things either, because there was a war already in place.

and that's how this works.

When there is no war, they need approval.

When there is one already in place...they are commander in chief and call the shots.

4/7/2017 3:06:50 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
bluesrule
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Quote from justaspypro:
Very true



"So in your mind sod their innocent people aswell."


I gotta admit that line of gibberish kinda threw me off. I think even my Brit interpreter said





4/7/2017 3:12:03 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Quote from bluesrule:
It was an attack on a Syrian airbase staffed with Assads' airforce and Russian forces. NOT innocent civilians. The airbase where the Russians watched as that airplane was loaded with its' deadly cargo and than launched and unleashed on innocent lives. A message to Assad and his cohorts and a determent not to use chemical weapons again. We could have taken out all 6 air bases in one swoop if war is what we were wanting. Escalation? Good god woman, what rock have you been hiding under? Escalation would be gassing your own people! What has your country done to prevent these atrocities? Oh that's right...... nothing.


Clearly the rock that considers the consquences of his actions for both sides.

Why do you turn EVERYTHING into a competition of countries? You do that a lot. Simply, because you don't agree with me.

To my knowledge the UN was investigating the attacks. There was a lot of false information presented and Russia are not providing any information. Yet, they are well known for their chemical weapons.

Instead of waiting for the UN you bombed. In other words failed to wait for information and Trump made his own decision.

You don't know who was on that base and you don't know if their were people being held that were innocent. You just took revenge without looking into it properly.

So there is my rock Blue. There are reasons for the UN. Nobody is saying the chemical attack is something that should be tolerated. Their job is to find out. To act with justice. Not as lame excuse as to deter.

4/7/2017 3:16:09 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

bumblebee7
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as for this being justified.

well..if Canada's leader was gassing its people...would you prefer we do nothing about t?

4/7/2017 3:18:32 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
justaspypro
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Quote from bluesrule:
"So in your mind sod their innocent people aswell."


I gotta admit that line of gibberish kinda threw me off. I think even my Brit interpreter said





The innocent people were those gassed. The one third children were innocent. No one has stepped in that's had any consequence in 8 years. It's about time.

4/7/2017 3:29:24 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

Mercedes_3
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He did the right thing and the world agree's with his actions.

One air base was attacked which was where the weapons of mass
destruction slaughtered children and families.

He did the right thing!~

Down with Assad!~



[Edited 4/7/2017 3:30:07 AM ]

4/7/2017 3:36:51 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
bluesrule
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
Clearly the rock that considers the consquences of his actions for both sides.

Why do you turn EVERYTHING into a competition of countries? You do that a lot. Simply, because you don't agree with me.

To my knowledge the UN was investigating the attacks. There was a lot of false information presented and Russia are not providing any information. Yet, they are well known for their chemical weapons.

Instead of waiting for the UN you bombed. In other words failed to wait for information and Trump made his own decision.

You don't know who was on that base and you don't know if their were people being held that were innocent. You just took revenge without looking into it properly.

So there is my rock Blue. There are reasons for the UN. Nobody is saying the chemical attack is something that should be tolerated. Their job is to find out. To act with justice. Not as lame excuse as to deter.


Why do I turn everything into a competition of countries? I am not the one who started with casting stones at another country. I am not the one who assumes to know how another country laws work. I would do a little research before opening my mouth and doing so. What I am though is an American and I do know the laws of MY land.

What you fail to understand is a country can take action without the consent of the UN. Wait on the United Nations for how long? They have known just as long as the rest of the world. Trump made a decision that the rest of the world was unwilling to make. And quite frankly the Brits didn't have the gumption to. We have some of the best intelligence information at our fingertips and actual boots on the ground supplying us with even more. Why do you think the strike was in the early morning hours? A lame excuse to deter.....

4/7/2017 3:46:24 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
orchidpurple
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Quote from Mercedes_3:


Down with Assad!~


Be careful what you wish for. Down with Hussein didn't turn out well. That region is a mess and the lesser of two evils is the only option you have there. There are no good guys.



[Edited 4/7/2017 3:46:45 AM ]

4/7/2017 3:53:51 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Quote from bluesrule:
Why do I turn everything into a competition of countries? I am not the one who started with casting stones at another country. I am not the one who assumes to know how another country laws work. I would do a little research before opening my mouth and doing so. What I am though is an American and I do know the laws of MY land.

What you fail to understand is a country can take action without the consent of the UN. Wait on the United Nations for how long? They have known just as long as the rest of the world. Trump made a decision that the rest of the world was unwilling to make. And quite frankly the Brits didn't have the gumption to. We have some of the best intelligence information at our fingertips and actual boots on the ground supplying us with even more. Why do you think the strike was in the early morning hours? A lame excuse to deter.....


Jesus woman. You did. It isn't the first time either. You never see me saying the UK is great and there is a lot I disagree with here.

You could start a war based on your defensive of what was not said. Pretty much how these situations start.

If you don't value the UN as the US why the heck are you part of it? Why do you think the UN exists? It's people working together. Asking questions later is as bad as the people who actually do these things. Act now pay the consquences later kinda of attitude

They were NOT unwilling to make. They were investigating the chemical attack. That is cause for consideration. The only people who really don't give a shit about this is Russia and that's why they are claiming they don't have any information.

Think about it. A country well known for Chemical warefare, that actually promote pictures of the slain innocent. Who are now pulling out of an agreement about international space and are condeming you as an act of aggression. Syria and Russia are allies. Does any of this make sense?

4/7/2017 3:54:19 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

bumblebee7
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Flirty has been eating Taco's and Pizza's for a year now and Gassing the Canadian People.

Should we send in the Troops????


...

4/7/2017 4:02:21 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

Mercedes_3
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Quote from orchidpurple:
Be careful what you wish for. Down with Hussein didn't turn out well. That region is a mess and the lesser of two evils is the only option you have there. There are no good guys.



Bush was a f**k wit though.

He knew how to get in but he had no clue
how to get out and he f**ked up by presuming
Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when in
fact they did not.

In Syria's case we've all witnessed weapons of mass destruction.

4/7/2017 4:08:25 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
orchidpurple
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weapons of mass destruction I hope they never go in with troops. Cause the same thing will happen as in Iraq. This is a war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Russia and USA are protecting their own interests. It's a dirty war ad it's gonna get dirtier.

4/7/2017 4:16:36 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
bluesrule
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
Jesus woman. You did. It isn't the first time either. You never see me saying the UK is great and there is a lot I disagree with here.

You could start a war based on your defensive of what was not said. Pretty much how these situations start.

If you don't value the UN as the US why the heck are you part of it? Why do you think the UN exists? It's people working together. Asking questions later is as bad as the people who actually do these things. Act now pay the consquences later kinda of attitude

They were NOT unwilling to make. They were investigating the chemical attack. That is cause for consideration. The only people who really don't give a shit about this is Russia and that's why they are claiming they don't have any information.

Think about it. A country well known for Chemical warefare, that actually promote pictures of the slain innocent. Who are now pulling out of an agreement about international space and are condeming you as an act of aggression. Syria and Russia are allies. Does any of this make sense?



Might I suggest you go back and read page one of this thread.

By the way, quit trying to twist my words to suit your purposes. My ONLY reference to the UN was to say that a country doesn't need their approval to take a military action. You put your own spin on it. I would also suggest you do a little research of your own about how it was proven to be Sarin that was used. Guess what, the UN already knows. And it wasn't by their investigation. If it was, we would still be waiting for answers.

Oh, you forgot to add Iran to that ally list. But I am sure you were too busy trying to put me in my place so a forgivable oversight.




4/7/2017 4:25:49 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
jakebearr
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F**k yea love them tomahawk missiles

Props to Trump ...




4/7/2017 4:30:06 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
orchidpurple
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UN is a joke tbh. Good idea on paper but it doesn't work, and never will. The only organ of UN that has some power is UN Security Council, which means 5 permanent members: US, UK, Russia, France and China.
Good luck with that.

4/7/2017 4:41:33 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Quote from bluesrule:
Might I suggest you go back and read page one of this thread.

By the way, quit trying to twist my words to suit your purposes. My ONLY reference to the UN was to say that a country doesn't need their approval to take a military action. You put your own spin on it. I would also suggest you do a little research of your own about how it was proven to be Sarin that was used. Guess what, the UN already knows. And it wasn't by their investigation. If it was, we would still be waiting for answers.

Oh, you forgot to add Iran to that ally list. But I am sure you were too busy trying to put me in my place so a forgivable oversight.




Blue seriously why you think that I was trying to put you in your place? I am just saying WHY I don't agree with you and many others.

The only person who is hell bent on putting people in their place is YOU. This is a consistant and you always take it to a level of that.

I look at the bigger picture. You in my opinion don't and that is your choice. It doesn't make my choices and opinions any different. I don't feel the need to agressive about it. You do. Simple as that for me.

You stated what are the UK doing. The UK as part of the UN were a part of those talks and no way did they condone the chemical attacks. Yet, you seem to assume they are with your earlier statements. That's the point of the UN. United stance.

I am not talking the past wars. I am talking the current situation. Which is what the OP's question was.

The one thing I agree with Russia on is that it was an act of aggression.

Do I think it will deter them. No. Which is what Trump's defence is by his actions.

4/7/2017 4:55:38 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
jakebearr
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
Blue seriously why you think that I was trying to put you in your place? I am just saying WHY I don't agree with you and many others.

The only person who is hell bent on putting people in their place is YOU. This is a consistant and you always take it to a level of that.

I look at the bigger picture. You in my opinion don't and that is your choice. It doesn't make my choices and opinions any different. I don't feel the need to agressive about it. You do. Simple as that for me.

You stated what are the UK doing. The UK as part of the UN were a part of those talks and no way did they condone the chemical attacks. Yet, you seem to assume they are with your earlier statements. That's the point of the UN. United stance.

I am not talking the past wars. I am talking the current situation. Which is what the OP's question was.

The one thing I agree with Russia on is that it was an act of aggression.

Do I think it will deter them. No. Which is what Trump's defence is by his actions.



If you look at the bigger picture you would not be on the DH ...

4/7/2017 5:11:55 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

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Quote from jakebearr:
If you look at the bigger picture you would not be on the DH ...


and often do I come here only in my free time.

4/7/2017 5:14:50 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

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Quote from Mercedes_3:
Bush was a f**k wit though.

He knew how to get in but he had no clue
how to get out and he f**ked up by presuming
Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when in
fact they did not.

In Syria's case we've all witnessed weapons of mass destruction.


Actually, A president gets information from the C.I.A. and other sources that are top secret from the press or anyone else. So we may get an answer from the press about why we went into Iraq and etc...which may not be the case at all in reality.

When 9/11 happened I wondered why Bush went in so fast, instead of waiting for the rest of the world to join in, which is what I would have done. Then I remembered when I saw a film with the actual heads of the CIA, FBI, DIA and secret services at the time Clinton was in office, all say that Clinton rarely came to the required weekly meetings, where a representative of these Agencies would keep him abreast of what their operatives were finding out in the world....and if he did show up, he showed no real interest...meaning...their hands were tied and they felt like, what's the point of our doing anything?...so they went lax too...and the rag tag band of terrorist grew into a much larger, better organized and financed group...while we had no knowledge of this as the people at that time.

So who knows what these agencies reported to Bush, who just came into office, when 9/11 happened...that is Top Secret and may have played heavily on his decision????

and why did they wait till he came in? partly because his father made a literal fool out of them in a few months, but mostly because they favor a Democrat in Office, because of Clinton and his lack of action...and Carter who they made a fumbling idiot out of....so, do this under a Republican and soon enough, they will vote in another Democrat.

The War under Bush, if you google it, is called the Iraq War...that's it. We were to the point, they had their elections, The war there was winding down to where we would have built a strong military base there to keep it that way....and bring the rest of the troops back, except enough to run a base...we started to spend and borrow less and less for that war by that point and even gas was coming down finally...it was 2.20 here per gallon went he left office.

Sure McCain talked about the war on terror, but that didn't mean keeping the actual war going, but that's how it was taken and people were more concerned at that time about high cost of things and the economy...Obama talked about the economy and ending the war and bringing home the troops in 6 months...which was already starting to happen slowly under Bush....but no...he expanded the war beyond Iraq, to many other parts of the Middle East, which in turn caused us to start borrowing money for the war...and in turn sending gas prices right back to over 3 bucks a gallon and everything else he did made the economy that much worse.

Bush in the first few years was deemed a Hero along with New York's mayor....and his rating was very high....until the war and the borrowing for it sent gas prices thru the roof, and everything else we buy following suit....then he was deemed an idiot.

I think, but not sure, that if we had elected McCain...perhaps the war would have ended and the Troops would have come home in a year or so....and the economy would have been better, because of no more borrowing money, if nothing else...

and this thread would have never been written, because Syria would have been in better check and not gassed their own people.



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sadlsticsienna
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Should of just bombed them

4/7/2017 8:06:13 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
orchidpurple
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Belligerant Sienna

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burt_hurt
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Breaking Wind - Burt had refried beanz for breakfast.

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foreal2015
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Quote from joey1331:
no one ever shoots missles at us



Theres a good reason for that

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burt_hurt
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Quote from foreal2015:
Theres a good reason for that


Yup, it's called the Pacific and Atlantic.

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orchidpurple
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Quote from foreal2015:
Theres a good reason for that


Yep , and I thought even babies new Why . Lol

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russellb1
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Hope no Russians were killed...

Watch out...

4/7/2017 8:13:52 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
burt_hurt
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Drop USA anywhere in the middle east and it would be hit by missiles everyday. It's it's geographic position that prevents that from happening..at the moment.

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foreal2015
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Quote from burt_hurt:
Drop USA anywhere in the middle east and it would be hit by missiles everyday. It's it's geographic position that prevents that from happening..at the moment.
that's a big part of it. There's more to it though. Let's use Korea for an example. If they were to launch a missile attack. The radar on the naval vessels in San Diego and Pearl harbor would pick them up a few seconds after and have a missile in the air to intercept theirs in a matter of seconds.

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Quote from M4mischief:
Yeah he didn't get congressional or u.n. approval...so I wonder how he is going to justify it...although I don't blame him....im glad to see he took a hard line on assad since the gas attack....






Apparently I must be blue...ohhhh wellllll its not the first time there is more than one thread...I just read about it and didn't see a thread so I posted it..no biggy....



He is rolling like a Republican...

The RULES and or LAWS do NOT apply to him and his...



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russellb1
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Quote from foreal2015:
that's a big part of it. There's more to it though. Let's use Korea for an example. If they were to launch a missile attack. The radar on the naval vessels in San Diego and Pearl harbor would pick them up a few seconds after and have a missile in the air to intercept theirs in a matter of seconds.


I know yer being hypothetical, but with their 3-5 nukes....

I think N. Korea would actually rather not use them than lose 'em...

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burt_hurt
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that's a big part of it. There's more to it though. Let's use Korea for an example. If they were to launch a missile attack. The radar on the naval vessels in San Diego and Pearl harbor would pick them up a few seconds after and have a missile in the air to intercept theirs in a matter of seconds.

Well that's not why there are no missile attacks...a missile attack shot down..is still a missile attack.

It's all down to a logistical problem...not a "fear" problem. There are PLENTY of nuts in the world who would happily send a missile attack to the US if it they had the means to do it...that really is just a matter of time though.

The 9/11 thing could be viewed as a "missile" attack...the planes being the missiles.

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easttowest72
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This is just an excuse for gas prices to go up.

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burt_hurt
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...Just like Israel is hit pretty much everyday by missile attacks...The US would be too if it was geographically placed where any idiot can roll up close to the border and fire one off.

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eyesofmedusa
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Quote from burt_hurt:
that's a big part of it. There's more to it though. Let's use Korea for an example. If they were to launch a missile attack. The radar on the naval vessels in San Diego and Pearl harbor would pick them up a few seconds after and have a missile in the air to intercept theirs in a matter of seconds.

Well that's not why there are no missile attacks...a missile attack shot down..is still a missile attack.

It's all down to a logistical problem...not a "fear" problem. There are PLENTY of nuts in the world who would happily send a missile attack to the US if it they had the means to do it...that really is just a matter of time though.

The 9/11 thing could be viewed as a "missile" attack...the planes being the missiles.


9/11.....thing


What the fk ?

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burt_hurt
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9/11.....thing


What the fk ?


Well 9/12 if you were in Japan.

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archer513
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I'm all for bombing the shit out of Syria

Hand those "refugees" a gun and some bullets and be like "go get em tiger"

Keep your Muslim a** in the Middle East where you belong



[Edited 4/7/2017 8:45:01 AM ]

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eyesofmedusa
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Quote from burt_hurt:
9/11.....thing


What the fk ?


Well 9/12 if you were in Japan.


You know damn well that is not what I had an issue with..

4/7/2017 8:59:33 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  

stl1
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Quote from burt_hurt:
Yup, it's called the Pacific and Atlantic.



Don't forget Canada and Mexico.

4/7/2017 9:11:31 AM Breaking News - Trump Launches Missle Attacks...  
burt_hurt
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You know damn well that is not what I had an issue with..

so what was the issue? that I didn't post angel emotes around it as if it was some hallowed thing?

I understand you Americans aren't that used to attacks on your home soil but those of us who have lived in other places and witnessed many acts of terrorism on home soil don't feel the need to "embellish" the act as some unholy assault that should be spoken about with hushed voices and angelic trumpets sounding in the background.



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