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muldoon1959
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It also means we inherit immunities which it does prove.
Of course, we're not the only ones evolving.

You're foolish belief says we should evolve in a way
that makes us immune from everything, but ignore the
fact that the bugs are evolving too.

Or have you forgotten about the "super" bugs that have
become immune to our best anti-bionics?

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progrocknic
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
Through "evolution" you should always be improving to never be sick or ill. We all die at 80'sh and before which means (we are not improving at all via evolution).

Inherited Genetics through natural selection is proof we pass inherited sicknesses to our offspring... (during evolving we should eliminate illness from being passed)(since it does not happen it means we are not evolving nor was there evolution).


Wrong.

Seriously, go back to school. You don't even understand the basics of evolution.

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lordclarence
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
Through "evolution" you should always be improving to never be sick or ill. We all die at 80'sh and before which means (we are not improving at all via evolution).

Inherited Genetics through natural selection is proof we pass inherited sicknesses to our offspring... (during evolving we should eliminate illness from being passed)(since it does not happen it means we are not evolving nor was there evolution).

This isn't correct. Diseases that develop after the reproductive years are under no evolutionary pressure to reduce in frequency.

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iam_resurrected
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And what is in DNA? How we decompose and digest "bacteria" and "microorganisms."

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iam_resurrected
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This isn't correct. Diseases that develop after the reproductive years are under no evolutionary pressure to reduce in frequency.


Unless those diseases hit later in life. Or one generation carries and their offspring suffers. You are leaving out so much when there are many examples of inherited illnesses developing in all stages of life, just not at immediate birth.

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iam_resurrected
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Or have you forgotten about the "super" bugs that have
become immune to our best anti-bionics?





If insects are evolving but humans are not that should be an obvious clue to you!!

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muldoon1959
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Talk about a "head shoved in your ass" way of seeing things.

How many diseases don't kill us anymore?

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Quote from iam_resurrected:
:But I would assume, a queer feels so much better believing they are born that way rather than falling under the "factual terminology" of being "insane" for wanting be a woman whom "bleeds" out their ass!!




women do NOT "bleeds" out their ass!!"

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lordclarence
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
And what is in DNA? How we decompose and digest "bacteria" and "microorganisms."

What does that have to do with anything? Or the "queers" that you keep bringing up?

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iam_resurrected

I am not versed in any science....only in lit/ Spanish lang.

Now, while I feel science is imperfect but continuously changing / improving itself. I do know the god issue is a huge load of BS and its practice holds back the advance of that science we are attempting to classify.

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duchessa
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Quote from progrocknic:
If that isn't the clearest way of saying I only believe what I want to, I don't know what is.




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louie6332
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Iam, I have no problem with science being used to arrive at religious truths, for true religion, true science, and true history do not contradict each other, for truth does not contradict truth, and each can be used to enlighten the other. And I understand your demand that homosexuals support their claim that they are biologically born that way rather than just stating that and running away. But some of your science and religion and history are not consistent with what are factually known of these.

And remember Iam, all you believe and hold to be truths, should be consistent with themselves and with each other. If parts of your psychological frame of reference are not consistent with other parts, it makes the otherwise smooth running gears of your brain grind together. And not only does that mess up your thinking, leading to incorrect conclusions, it can be painful, like finger nails scrapping on a chalkboard. It makes me cringe just thinking about it. If there are inconsistencies in your psychological frame of reference, there is something wrong with your beliefs.

Iam, DNA does not determine “how we decompose”, as you claim, it is not active during that time, in fact, it is falling apart itself as part of the decay process. Some of the Catholic saints, by the way, did not decompose after death, they were incorruptible, but this was a miraculous thing, their DNA had nothing to do with that.

Iam, you claim Jesus Christ was a fraud. Do you care to explain that?

Iam, since you claim the books in the official Christian Bible have been corrupted and falsified, I assume you do not use or recommend the Bible. Is that correct?

Iam, since science, which you seem to take as your ultimate authority, currently has no explanation for divine miracles, I assume you do not believe in divine miracles, that miracles do not happen. Is that correct?

Iam, you claim Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was not ever-virgin, and that Christ was not born of a virgin, even though Mary herself reveals otherwise. Where did you get your revelation? Don’t be shy, tell us. And remember, it has to be a divine revelation, not someone’s opinion.

It is revealed, by the way, that both Mary and Joseph had taken vows of celibacy years before they were married and both remained true to their vows all of their lives.

And Iam, if you have copies of the original texts of the books of the bible, as you imply, please enlighten us by presenting copies of some of them here and telling us where the originals are kept (by doing so, you could become world famous, unless they prove to be bogus of course). Don’t be shy, tell us what these original texts are, where we can find them, and please present one of more of them here for our edification.

Louie

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61falcon
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Louie I would suggest you reread your Bible and read the gospel according to Mark 6:3 and the Gospel of Mathew13:55-56, who say that Jesus had several brothers and sisters???

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iam_resurrected
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Iam, I have no problem with science being used to arrive at religious truths, for true religion, true science, and true history do not contradict each other, for truth does not contradict truth, and each can be used to enlighten the other. And I understand your demand that homosexuals support their claim that they are biologically born that way rather than just stating that and running away. But some of your science and religion and history are not consistent with what are factually known of these.


I most certainly believe that science fills in the "gap" between Genesis1:1 of a completed and finished earth (with life) and verse 2 when it is suddenly under water and "vacant."

I believe this theory of Satan being cast to earth (biblically) is the "Ice Age" (scientifically)!!



And remember Iam, all you believe and hold to be truths, should be consistent with themselves and with each other. If parts of your psychological frame of reference are not consistent with other parts, it makes the otherwise smooth running gears of your brain grind together. And not only does that mess up your thinking, leading to incorrect conclusions, it can be painful, like finger nails scrapping on a chalkboard. It makes me cringe just thinking about it. If there are inconsistencies in your psychological frame of reference, there is something wrong with your beliefs.


lol

I love science because I feel it is not disproving Yahweh, but rather it is confirming Him!!




Iam, DNA does not determine “how we decompose”, as you claim, it is not active during that time, in fact, it is falling apart itself as part of the decay process. Some of the Catholic saints, by the way, did not decompose after death, they were incorruptible, but this was a miraculous thing, their DNA had nothing to do with that.


The decomposition is result due to the "bacteria and microorganisms" we biologically share with (all species). It is already a part of our biological make-up. We as "homo sapiens" share equally with all species.




Iam, you claim Jesus Christ was a fraud. Do you care to explain that?


Not sure how you are claiming I call Christ a fraud?

I am calling the Catholic church a "fraud!!"



Iam, since you claim the books in the official Christian Bible have been corrupted and falsified, I assume you do not use or recommend the Bible. Is that correct?


I recommend reading the material "rejected" by the Cathlick pagans that never made it to the "bible," for one. And second, forgetting the b.s. "virgin myth birth."




Iam, since science, which you seem to take as your ultimate authority, currently has no explanation for divine miracles, I assume you do not believe in divine miracles, that miracles do not happen. Is that correct?


My grandfather, who was being groomed to be a priest at "Holy Cross" church in South Bend, Indiana (Notre Dame). Ended up being a Pentecostal evangelist who taught biblical theology in the bible schools around Oklahoma, Texas, and Southwest.

His mother 100% Jew had him well taught in the Talmud and his father Cathlick had him taught in bastardized scripture.

Well versed in both, he rejected them when he met a preacher named Bishop G.T. Haywood (wrote song: I see a Crimson Stream of Blood and it flows down Calvary).

He stated after knowing Yahweh, he knew the usage of prayer beads, paganistic rituals in Cathlick system, praying to the dead were clear steps to be "as far from Yahweh as possible!!




Iam, you claim Mary, the Mother of Jesus, was not ever-virgin, and that Christ was not born of a virgin, even though Mary herself reveals otherwise. Where did you get your revelation? Don’t be shy, tell us. And remember, it has to be a divine revelation, not someone’s opinion.


The "original 70 AD church of the Ebionites" followed the (4 Gospels) "without" the first TWO chapters that appears in current versions of Matthew and Luke. They claim the original 4 Gospels "did not" include the "virgin myth birth."

This was a bastardized gift of (lies) from the pagan Cathlick church!!



It is revealed, by the way, that both Mary and Joseph had taken vows of celibacy years before they were married and both remained true to their vows all of their lives.


You should "ask the Ebionites" (WHOM) were at "first hand knowledge" with the 4 writers of the Gospels, the Disciples, and Paul. THEY existed together simultaneously and went through "Destruction of 70 AD" along with them and the church remained afterwards.

As did the message of no "virgin mythical birth" until the pagan Cathlicks bastardized and polluted it!!



And Iam, if you have copies of the original texts of the books of the bible, as you imply, please enlighten us by presenting copies of some of them here and telling us where the originals are kept (by doing so, you could become world famous, unless they prove to be bogus of course). Don’t be shy, tell us what these original texts are, where we can find them, and please present one of more of them here for our edification.


The majority of Church Fathers agree that the Ebionites rejected many of the precepts central to Nicene orthodoxy, such as his virgin birth.[6]

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iam_resurrected
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Quote from duchessa:
iam_resurrected

I am not versed in any science....only in lit/ Spanish lang.

Now, while I feel science is imperfect but continuously changing / improving itself. I do know the god issue is a huge load of BS and its practice holds back the advance of that science we are attempting to classify.






Explain how the belief in Yahweh interferes with science? When we know there are 4 solid scientific theories that are 100% false.

How does the belief in Yahweh make science LIE to us?

Would appear science is even more sketch than previously assumed!!



[Edited 5/7/2017 7:55:33 AM ]

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louie6332
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Duchessa, a Liberal atheist and retired school teacher, lauds Obama and his Common Core Curricula. Enough said. She loves Obama, the God hating, American hating, Israel hating, Kenyan born, Muslim, illegal alien, if she hasn’t yet changed her mind, and hates the Judeo-Christian God, God the Father, the Creator.

Iam, I get it, you say the original texts of the books compiled in the official Christian Bible say that Mary and Joseph broke their vows of celibacy, that Jesus was not the only begotten son of God the Father by a virgin birth but rather the son of his foster father Joseph, but you cannot produce ANY of these original texts to show that. The best you can do is site heretics. Do you really think you can trust heretics, including your apostate father, with the life of your soul?

The statement in the Gospels that mentions Christ's "brothers" were cousins, for the language in which it was originally written in had no word for cousins. The "brothers" referred to were brothers of aunts and uncles. The Catholic prophet Catherine Emmerich confirms this by giving Christ's family tree, and they are cousins in the family tree.

Iam, we are now in the period of Trial of the Apocalypse, during which Satan was granted the time (roughly a century—it is said that he was given his choice of century, and he choice the last century of this World Age)—to try to destroy the Church of Jesus Christ and to test all men on Earth, and greater power, but only over those who serve him (the good were also granted greater power to oppose him). God the Father granted this in order to separate the sheep from the goats, the chaff from the wheat. Satan and his demons were released from Hell and now roam the world like furriers, seeking to deceive even the elect if that were possible.

But Iam, when Satan seeks to deceive, whether it be with Satan mimicking the gifts of the Holy Spirit in Holiness Pentecostalism or a New Ager engaging in channeling or automatic writing, there is always something to give it away. It can be quite subtle, but there is always something.

Pentecostalism is the early twentieth century marriage of holiness Protestantism with the Black African Pagan religion of Voo-Doo, in which Satan mimics the gifts of the Holy Spirit, you know, being slain in the spirit, speaking in tongues, and so on. You’ve been had. There are many ways to prove that, but the easiest way is to sprinkle Holy Water (water blessed by a Catholic priest) on them while they are being slain in the spirit, speaking in tongues, and such, and you will quickly see the result. Ordinary men cannot tell the difference between ordinary water and holy water, but Satan can, and he absolutely cannot stand it. If you do this, it will, at once, prove to you that Pentecostalism is not of God and that Catholic priests have the power to confer God’s blessing.

Iam, Protestants use the Bible as their “sole authority”, but you have stated that the Bible has been “bastardized”, to use your term, so why do you lean towards Protestantism? Is it because your father was an apostate and a heretic? If you were consistent, you would reject the Bible in its entirety. Besides, Luther’s proclamation that the Bible is the sole authority is found nowhere in the Bible, in fact, the Bible contradicts that by specifically naming the authority that is to be believed, so Protestantism is self contradictory and therefore necessarily false.

Louie



[Edited 5/7/2017 1:50:24 PM ]

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iam_resurrected
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Quote from louie6332:

Iam, I get it, you say the original texts of the books compiled in the official Christian Bible say that Mary and Joseph broke their vows of celibacy, that Jesus was not the only begotten son of God the Father by a virgin birth but rather the son of his foster father Joseph, but you cannot produce ANY of these original texts to show that. The best you can do is site heretics. Do you really think you can trust heretics, including your apostate father, with the life of your soul?


You keep dancing around the "fact" that (YAH) never needed to be like 1,000 other false myth "virgin births." When (YAH) came to Abraham as Melchizedek there are no mention to how "HE" arrived (no parents-no background) and yet, He was Abraham's personal "Pastor!!"

Which from Book of Hebrews we learn, was another testimony to physical appearances by (YAH) which means: Melchizedek is also the (WORD in flesh) (Yahshua)

And pertaining to texts is just that the Ebionites began the (4 Gospels) with no record of the birth of Yahshua.

This story was added by the Roman pagan Cathlicks 300 years later.



The statement in the Gospels that mentions Christ's "brothers" were cousins, for the language in which it was originally written in had no word for cousins. The "brothers" referred to were brothers of aunts and uncles. The Catholic prophet Catherine Emmerich confirms this by giving Christ's family tree, and they are cousins in the family tree.


There is ABSOLUTELY no DNA from Mary or Joseph pertaining (YAH)shua. (YAH)shua is the WORD of (YAH)!! So (YAH)shua was like an adopted child that is not related to any of them!!



Iam, we are now in the period of Trial of the Apocalypse, during which Satan was granted the time (roughly a century—it is said that he was given his choice of century, and he choice the last century of this World Age)—to try to destroy the Church of Jesus Christ and to test all men on Earth, and greater power, but only over those who serve him (the good were also granted greater power to oppose him). God the Father granted this in order to separate the sheep from the goats, the chaff from the wheat. Satan and his demons were released from Hell and now roam the world like furriers, seeking to deceive even the elect if that were possible.


I whole heartedly believe we are in the time dispensation of Laodecia!!

We are on the edge of where it begins to finally end!!



But Iam, when Satan seeks to deceive, whether it be with Satan mimicking the gifts of the Holy Spirit in Holiness Pentecostalism or a New Ager engaging in channeling or automatic writing, there is always something to give it away. It can be quite subtle, but there is always something.


Your "church (full of lies) the pagan Cathlicks" who claim, Peter(WHOM WAS NEVER in Rome)(only Paul) as being the First Pope (to which you claim all of your PAGANISTIC RITUALS stem from his direction)...Was the FIRST PERSON in Book of Acts openly admitted to speaking in the new tongue!!

So why is not the church of LIES (cathlicks) not obeying their FIRST LIE (Peter as pope) and doing as he gave example?




Pentecostalism is the early twentieth century marriage of holiness Protestantism with the Black African Pagan religion of Voo-Doo, in which Satan mimics the gifts of the Holy Spirit, you know, being slain in the spirit, speaking in tongues, and so on. You’ve been had. There are many ways to prove that, but the easiest way is to sprinkle Holy Water (water blessed by a Catholic priest) on them while they are being slain in the spirit, speaking in tongues, and such, and you will quickly see the result. Ordinary men cannot tell the difference between ordinary water and holy water, but Satan can, and he absolutely cannot stand it. If you do this, it will, at once, prove to you that Pentecostalism is not of God and that Catholic priests have the power to confer God’s blessing.


You are mentally ill to believe that a man who bends young boys over for sexual pleasure and prays to dead people and statues has any power of (YAH)!!




Iam, Protestants use the Bible as their “sole authority”, but you have stated that the Bible has been “bastardized”, to use your term, so why do you lean towards Protestantism? Is it because your father was an apostate and a heretic? If you were consistent, you would reject the Bible in its entirety. Besides, Luther’s proclamation that the Bible is the sole authority is found nowhere in the Bible, in fact, the Bible contradicts that by specifically naming the authority that is to be believed, so Protestantism is self contradictory and therefore necessarily false.

Louie


I follow (YAH)shua, not a preacher or some f*g pretending to be a pope and priest!!



[Edited 5/7/2017 2:29:08 PM ]

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cupocheer
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
I follow (YAH)shua, not a preacher or some f*g pretending to be a pope and priest!!


If you follow God, Iam you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ who teaches to love everyone and pray for them.

When you label a person out of their rightful place amongst humanity you are not following God/Jesus Christ you are following a dark evil that has taken over your light.

And you are being a blatant LUAR again.

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iam_resurrected
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Quote from cupocheer:
If you follow God, Iam you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ who teaches to love everyone and pray for them.

When you label a person out of their rightful place amongst humanity you are not following God/Jesus Christ you are following a dark evil that has taken over your light.

And you are being a blatant LUAR again.






(YAH)shua called the religious leaders vipers (liars) and full of dead men's bones.

I only love the soul that matters, and firmly believe in condemning those whose actions (raping young boys) create destruction of the human itself!!

I don't care if it pisses ya off, but anyone who rapes a child needs to legally die!!

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cupocheer
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You don't have the authority to condemn, judge, nor punish another human.

Only God has that authority.

You overstep your bounds, sir, and God will be judging you.

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iam_resurrected
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What am I judging, other than an action that literally breaks down another human being to the point of losing their soul?

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duchessa
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
Explain how the belief in Yahweh interferes with science? When we know there are 4 solid scientific theories that are 100% false.

How does the belief in Yahweh make science LIE to us?

Would appear science is even more sketch than previously assumed!!


Darling, I won't fall for your game...too wise for that. Let it be said the concept of God is bullshit...you know it, I know it...and so does everybody who has the ability to reason.

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ultrabrat007
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Quote from duchessa:
Darling, I won't fall for your game...too wise for that. Let it be said the concept of God is bullshit...you know it, I know it...and so does everybody who has the ability to reason.


You are in quite a pickle there. If such higher power concepts were so much BS they would of went extinct ages ago.

Fact is most the World benefits from such beliefs everyday. And you're still running around calling it all Bulls#!t..

Like I said, you are in quite a pickle there with your "opinion".

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duchessa
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Quote from ultrabrat007:
You are in quite a pickle there. If such higher power concepts were so much BS they would of went extinct ages ago.

Fact is most the World benefits from such beliefs everyday. And you're still running around calling it all Bulls#!t..

Like I said, you are in quite a pickle there with your "opinion".


Darling...ignorance (god concept nurtures on it) has a way to stick in stupid brains.
Your way of thinking is not only one of ignorance but pathetic as well.

5/7/2017 5:35:36 PM Mixing Religion and Politics | Page 6  
ultrabrat007
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Quote from duchessa:
Darling...ignorance (god concept nurtures on it) has a way to stick in stupid brains.
Your way of thinking is not only one of ignorance but pathetic as well.


And here I thought you were a smarter atheist. Ill give ya another chance..Ready?

Where was that hat on your head made?

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muldoon1959
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Give it time.
Lot's of gods have gone the way of myth over the years.
Thor, the Greek "mythology", Egyptian gods just to name a few.

Those were once considered the absolute truth at one point too.

Quote from ultrabrat007:
You are in quite a pickle there. If such higher power concepts were so much BS they would of went extinct ages ago.

Fact is most the World benefits from such beliefs everyday. And you're still running around calling it all Bulls#!t..

Like I said, you are in quite a pickle there with your "opinion".


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drwookie
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Quote from cupocheer:
You don't have the authority to condemn, judge, nor punish another human.

Only God has that authority.

You overstep your bounds, sir, and God will be judging you.


Don't forget about the magistrate and Supreme Court they are judges too!

Louie Judges all the time.

I will now make the judgment that the earth spins to the east and DNA has anthropological connections to the past and choices are a form of natural selection maybe provided by an extra-sentient being with no discernible direct evidence or the capacity to understand a higher state of being because we're all limited by being human.

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ultrabrat007
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Quote from muldoon1959:
Give it time.
Lot's of gods have gone the way of myth over the years.
Thor, the Greek "mythology", Egyptian gods just to name a few.

Those were once considered the absolute truth at one point too.

Quote from ultrabrat007:
You are in quite a pickle there. If such higher power concepts were so much BS they would of went extinct ages ago.

Fact is most the World benefits from such beliefs everyday. And you're still running around calling it all Bulls#!t..

Like I said, you are in quite a pickle there with your "opinion".


And, here you have missed the main point...again!

Did those people benefit from their beliefs or not?

If you are following duchessa's position that these types of beliefs are all bull...then you must confront my question..

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louie6332
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“The Word” is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God the Father. (You do know what the word "begotten" means, don't you? And you do know what the word "only" means, don't you?

Iam, you are so desperate to discredit Christ and his Church that you are using a few lines from a fragment of a text, said to have been written by heretical Ebonites to discredit the Gospels and the divinity of Christ, a text that was always looked upon as heretical.

You say Peter was never the visible head of the Church established by Jesus and was "never in Rome". That is false. First of all, Our Lord himself said to Peter, the lead apostle: “Thou art rock (“Peter” was a pet name that Our Lord gave to Simon after he had looked into Simon’s heart and saw there a faith as strong as a rock--he was like a rock in his faith), and upon his rock I will build my Church, I give to you the keys to the kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you hold bound on Earth will be held bound in Heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven. And he said to his apostles: “Receive ye the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive shall be forgiven and who sins he shall retain shall be retained”, and he commanded them: “Go forth and teach all nations what I have taught you, those who hear you, hear me, and those who despise you, despise me”. (Hear that Iam?)

Here’s a brief overview of the early history of the Church: After the persecution of the Church heated up again in Jerusalem, Peter appointed the Apostle James as bishop of Jerusalem and moved the headquarters of the Church to Asia Minor (what is now Turkey). After being there for a while the Holy Spirit commanded Peter to move the headquarters to Rome. He wanted it in Rome because Rome was a stable city (Rome, even today, is still referred to as the “Eternal City”), and he wanted it in Rome because it was the center of the Roman Empire (it was said at the time that “all roads lead to Rome”) and the Christian faith could spread more easily from there. Peter, in obedience to the Holy Spirit, then moved the headquarters of the Church to Rome, thereby becoming the first bishop of Rome (the bishop of Rome, the head of the Church of Jesus Christ, is today referred to as the “pope”).

The story is told that after the Great Roman persecution started up in Rome under Nero, Peter was captured and put in jail. But Peter managed to escape his jailers (he was a slippery one, he was) and he was walking out of Rome when he met Jesus walking in. Taken aback, he said to Jesus: “Lord, where are you going?” And Jesus replied, “I am going to Rome to be crucified again”. Peter’s heart sank, and without saying a word, he turned around, walked back to Rome, and turned himself back into his jailer. They then led Peter to be crucified. As they were doing this, Peter told them that he was unworthy to be crucified like his Lord. Humoring him, they then turned his cross upside down and crucified him that way. Paul was also captured and martyred in Rome, he was beheaded. Today the bodies of Saints Peter and Paul are buried in Rome, Peter under the Cathedral of Saint Peter in Rome, and Paul under the Cathedral of Saint Paul in Rome. The Catholic Church today possesses all of the bodies of the Apostles, and the relics of Christ, including what is left of the Cross he was crucified on, nails used to crucify him, the spear used to pierce his side, the shroud he was buried in, upon which miraculously appeared the image of his full body, the shroud of Veronica, upon which he wiped his face during his sorrowful passion, and upon which appeared an image of his face, and so on. The blood on the shroud, by the way, turns out to be the same blood type as that of the Eucharistic miracles.

Each time an apostle died, one was appointed to take his place (and additional ones were also appointed as the Church grew in size). So there was a continual line of succession. There is a list of all the popes (bishops of Rome) who have reigned over the Church, for example, from Peter to the present pope. It’s all a matter of record. The Catholic Church is the only Church that traces it history back through the sands of time to Christ and his apostles. No other Church does that. And it is also the only Church that, exercising the power that Our Lord gave it, forgives or retains sin in the name of Christ. No other Church does that. So the Catholic Church has a rich history that leads right back to Christ and his apostles. It is the Church established by Christ.

Iam, I have a challenge for you, go get some holy water from a traditional Catholic priest (it won't cost anything, it is free) then go spray it on your Pentecostal father when he is being slain in the spirit or speaking in tongues and then, when you get over your shock, come back and tell us what happened. Put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Do it.

Louie

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ultrabrat007
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Quote from louie6332:
“The Word” is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God the Father. (You do know what the word "begotten" means, don't you? And you do know what the word "only" means, don't you?

Iam, you are so desperate to discredit Christ and his Church that you are using a few lines from a fragment of a text, said to have been written by heretical Ebonites to discredit the Gospels and the divinity of Christ, a text that was always looked upon as heretical.

You say Peter was never the visible head of the Church established by Jesus and was "never in Rome". That is false. First of all, Our Lord himself said to Peter, the lead apostle: “Thou art rock (“Peter” was a pet name that Our Lord gave to Simon after he had looked into Simon’s heart and saw there a faith as strong as a rock--he was like a rock in his faith), and upon his rock I will build my Church, I give to you the keys to the kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you hold bound on Earth will be held bound in Heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven. And he said to his apostles: “Receive ye the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive shall be forgiven and who sins he shall retain shall be retained”, and he commanded them: “Go forth and teach all nations what I have taught you, those who hear you, hear me, and those who despise you, despise me”. (Hear that Iam?)

Here’s a brief overview of the early history of the Church: After the persecution of the Church heated up again in Jerusalem, Peter appointed the Apostle James as bishop of Jerusalem and moved the headquarters of the Church to Asia Minor (what is now Turkey). After being there for a while the Holy Spirit commanded Peter to move the headquarters to Rome. He wanted it in Rome because Rome was a stable city (Rome, even today, is still referred to as the “Eternal City”), and he wanted it in Rome because it was the center of the Roman Empire (it was said at the time that “all roads lead to Rome”) and the Christian faith could spread more easily from there. Peter, in obedience to the Holy Spirit, then moved the headquarters of the Church to Rome, thereby becoming the first bishop of Rome (the bishop of Rome, the head of the Church of Jesus Christ, is today referred to as the “pope”).

The story is told that after the Great Roman persecution started up in Rome under Nero, Peter was captured and put in jail. But Peter managed to escape his jailers (he was a slippery one, he was) and he was walking out of Rome when he met Jesus walking in. Taken aback, he said to Jesus: “Lord, where are you going?” And Jesus replied, “I am going to Rome to be crucified again”. Peter’s heart sank, and without saying a word, he turned around, walked back to Rome, and turned himself back into his jailer. They then led Peter to be crucified. As they were doing this, Peter told them that he was unworthy to be crucified like his Lord. Humoring him, they then turned his cross upside down and crucified him that way. Paul was also captured and martyred in Rome, he was beheaded. Today the bodies of Saints Peter and Paul are buried in Rome, Peter under the Cathedral of Saint Peter in Rome, and Paul under the Cathedral of Saint Paul in Rome. The Catholic Church today possesses all of the bodies of the Apostles, and the relics of Christ, including what is left of the Cross he was crucified on, nails used to crucify him, the spear used to pierce his side, the shroud he was buried in, upon which miraculously appeared the image of his full body, the shroud of Veronica, upon which he wiped his face during his sorrowful passion, and upon which appeared an image of his face, and so on. The blood on the shroud, by the way, turns out to be the same blood type as that of the Eucharistic miracles.

Each time an apostle died, one was appointed to take his place (and additional ones were also appointed as the Church grew in size). So there was a continual line of succession. There is a list of all the popes (bishops of Rome) who have reigned over the Church, for example, from Peter to the present pope. It’s all a matter of record. The Catholic Church is the only Church that traces it history back through the sands of time to Christ and his apostles. No other Church does that. And it is also the only Church that, exercising the power that Our Lord gave it, forgives or retains sin in the name of Christ. No other Church does that. So the Catholic Church has a rich history that leads right back to Christ and his apostles. It is the Church established by Christ.

Iam, I have a challenge for you, go get some holy water from a traditional Catholic priest (it won't cost anything, it is free) then go spray it on your Pentecostal father when he is being slain in the spirit or speaking in tongues and then, when you get over your shock, come back and tell us what happened. Put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Do it.

Louie


Those people are reading from a holy book when they go into a tongue talking trance. Yes or no?



[Edited 5/7/2017 10:54:18 PM ]

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muldoon1959
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Are you actually benefiting from yours or is it just a "feel good" thing?
Has Jesus actually cured anyone by getting enough Facebook likes?

Quote from ultrabrat007:
And, here you have missed the main point...again!

Did those people benefit from their beliefs or not?

If you are following duchessa's position that these types of beliefs are all bull...then you must confront my question..


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stellar007
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online now!


Jesus is on Facebook!?



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duchessa
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Quote from ultrabrat007:
And here I thought you were a smarter atheist. Ill give ya another chance..Ready?

Where was that hat on your head made?


One more time....believers feed on ignorance. Your case.

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duchessa
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Quote from ultrabrat007:
And here I thought you were a smarter atheist. Ill give ya another chance..Ready?

Where was that hat on your head made?


Here, paraphrasing somebody's quote.

You and your kind dismiss as myths all the gods revered by other cultures...past and present, BUT FAIL to understand why intelligent people dismiss your god. You and your kind are pathetic.

Byeeeeeeee...and you can kiss my 167 IQ

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iam_resurrected
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Quote from duchessa:
Darling, I won't fall for your game...too wise for that. Let it be said the concept of God is bullshit...you know it, I know it...and so does everybody who has the ability to reason.




This is your response to this:
Explain how the belief in Yahweh interferes with science? When we know there are 4 solid scientific theories that are 100% false.

How does the belief in Yahweh make science LIE to us?

Would appear science is even more sketch than previously assumed!!




Now, how does my post indicate I am deceiving you? I simply asked, how can the belief in (YAH) effect whether science lies or not? I believe if there were no deities that science would still (LIE) to have others believe they are correct.

So whether you follow science or not or just are a proponent of science, others believing in (YAH) should not cause science to be personally objective. But when theories can be "proven false" in science's attempt to prove (YAH) wrong, it is rather clear they are "more worried" about followers of (YAH) since they are "creating lies" that cannot be proven fact.

If followers of science are predetermined to be accepted as intelligent.
How much "intelligence" does one possess actually when believing in 4 theories that are (lies and false) and "cannot" be proven as "truth?"

It would appear there are several "ignorant" people within science then!!

And yet, they claim to be superior in knowledge hahahaha

Maybe in telling (lies) they are the best!!

5/8/2017 8:37:22 AM Mixing Religion and Politics | Page 6  

iam_resurrected
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Quote from louie6332:
“The Word” is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God the Father. (You do know what the word "begotten" means, don't you? And you do know what the word "only" means, don't you?


The WORD was/is (YAH)!! There are no differences:
(YAH)
(YAH)WEH
(YAH)SHUA
These are the SAME DEITY!!

There ARE NOT BEGOTTON!!

You are "ignorant" based up Pagan Cathlick lies!!




Iam, you are so desperate to discredit Christ and his Church that you are using a few lines from a fragment of a text, said to have been written by heretical Ebonites to discredit the Gospels and the divinity of Christ, a text that was always looked upon as heretical.


Why would I discredit (YAH)SHUA, my personal Lord and Savior?

I am discrediting your bastard church who LIED and follows SATAN more than (YAH) (statue worshiper , praying to the dead who need (YAH)SHUIA's resurrection (not their own because impossible) , Believing Mary is special and important in the entire "outlook" of (YAH)

Go grab your PAGAN PRAYER BEADS and believe you are contacting someone who is not listening to your crap!!



You say Peter was never the visible head of the Church established by Jesus and was "never in Rome". That is false. First of all, Our Lord himself said to Peter, the lead apostle: “Thou art rock (“Peter” was a pet name that Our Lord gave to Simon after he had looked into Simon’s heart and saw there a faith as strong as a rock--he was like a rock in his faith), and upon his rock I will build my Church, I give to you the keys to the kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you hold bound on Earth will be held bound in Heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in Heaven. And he said to his apostles: “Receive ye the Holy Spirit, whose sins you shall forgive shall be forgiven and who sins he shall retain shall be retained”, and he commanded them: “Go forth and teach all nations what I have taught you, those who hear you, hear me, and those who despise you, despise me”. (Hear that Iam?)


Paul says only Luke was with him. Peter never was in the city of Rome. The whole organizational structure of the Church of Rome is built on false tradition and tragic misinterpretation of our Lord's words. It is built on tradition that is just not true.
Was Peter Ever In Rome? - christianbeliefs.org

Go (lie) to someone who has no clue like you have been "lying" to your own self

Peter was NEVER in ROME and your pagan Cathlick church LIES MORE than SCIENCE!!




Here’s a brief overview of the early history of the Church: After the persecution of the Church heated up again in Jerusalem, Peter appointed the Apostle James as bishop of Jerusalem and moved the headquarters of the Church to Asia Minor (what is now Turkey). After being there for a while the Holy Spirit commanded Peter to move the headquarters to Rome. He wanted it in Rome because Rome was a stable city (Rome, even today, is still referred to as the “Eternal City”), and he wanted it in Rome because it was the center of the Roman Empire (it was said at the time that “all roads lead to Rome”) and the Christian faith could spread more easily from there. Peter, in obedience to the Holy Spirit, then moved the headquarters of the Church to Rome, thereby becoming the first bishop of Rome (the bishop of Rome, the head of the Church of Jesus Christ, is today referred to as the “pope”).


You clearly DO NOT KNOW your "HEAD from your RECTUM" from being stuck up there too long




The story is told that after the Great Roman persecution started up in Rome under Nero, Peter was captured and put in jail. But Peter managed to escape his jailers (he was a slippery one, he was) and he was walking out of Rome when he met Jesus walking in. Taken aback, he said to Jesus: “Lord, where are you going?” And Jesus replied, “I am going to Rome to be crucified again”. Peter’s heart sank, and without saying a word, he turned around, walked back to Rome, and turned himself back into his jailer. They then led Peter to be crucified. As they were doing this, Peter told them that he was unworthy to be crucified like his Lord. Humoring him, they then turned his cross upside down and crucified him that way. Paul was also captured and martyred in Rome, he was beheaded. Today the bodies of Saints Peter and Paul are buried in Rome, Peter under the Cathedral of Saint Peter in Rome, and Paul under the Cathedral of Saint Paul in Rome. The Catholic Church today possesses all of the bodies of the Apostles, and the relics of Christ, including what is left of the Cross he was crucified on, nails used to crucify him, the spear used to pierce his side, the shroud he was buried in, upon which miraculously appeared the image of his full body, the shroud of Veronica, upon which he wiped his face during his sorrowful passion, and upon which appeared an image of his face, and so on. The blood on the shroud, by the way, turns out to be the same blood type as that of the Eucharistic miracles.

Each time an apostle died, one was appointed to take his place (and additional ones were also appointed as the Church grew in size). So there was a continual line of succession. There is a list of all the popes (bishops of Rome) who have reigned over the Church, for example, from Peter to the present pope. It’s all a matter of record. The Catholic Church is the only Church that traces it history back through the sands of time to Christ and his apostles. No other Church does that. And it is also the only Church that, exercising the power that Our Lord gave it, forgives or retains sin in the name of Christ. No other Church does that. So the Catholic Church has a rich history that leads right back to Christ and his apostles. It is the Church established by Christ.


You are a PAGAN worshipper who believes the lies of other "pagan worshippers." Not one thing you mentioned is FACT!! Just a pathetic example of "how not to live for (YAH)SHUA!!"




Iam, I have a challenge for you, go get some holy water from a traditional Catholic priest (it won't cost anything, it is free) then go spray it on your Pentecostal father when he is being slain in the spirit or speaking in tongues and then, when you get over your shock, come back and tell us what happened. Put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Do it.

Louie


Listen Boy, you cannot challenge anyone when what you believe is a LIE!! Your first pope Peter WAS NEVER in ROME!!

Stop lying or stop posting at me because you are spreading ideas from SATAN around, not of (YAH)!!

You are a true PAGAN Cathlick!!



[Edited 5/8/2017 8:38:38 AM ]

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duchessa
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Quote from iam_resurrected:


How does the belief in Yahweh make science LIE to us?


If you read my post correctly you will see I never said the concept of God makeSSSSSS science to lie to us. No, nope.
You know exactly what I meant. What the concept of God and all the BS provided by religion/s do is an attempt to prevent the advance of science, education and of all possible means of enlightenment. Fortunately, mankind is not longer that stupid.

5/8/2017 8:46:20 AM Mixing Religion and Politics | Page 6  

iam_resurrected
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Duchess,
How is mankind not stupid, if they are accepting 4 theories introduced by science that cannot be proven as fact but are accepted as "truth?"

It would seem mankind is more "ignorant" for accepting scientific lies rather than believing in higher power!!

Which is the biggest action of ignorance here:
1. People believing in God?
2. People believing in the LIES of science?

5/8/2017 11:34:24 AM Mixing Religion and Politics | Page 6  
muldoon1959
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Does your computer work because of prayers?
How about GPS?

The simple reality is when things are designed and built
on scientific principle, they work.

You don't pray a 747 into the air.

5/8/2017 1:28:46 PM Mixing Religion and Politics | Page 6  

duchessa
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Quote from muldoon1959:
Does your computer work because of prayers?
How about GPS?

The simple reality is when things are designed and built
on scientific principle, they work.

You don't pray a 747 into the air.


These believers...when they see their arguments blown up on the air...attack, insult, lie and twist your words to no end.

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fellowforyou
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The cure for piety is much needed.
An old joke involved holding a prophylactic for at least five minutes.
The piety ran off.

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muldoon1959
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It is rather amusing watching science deniers deny science
using a device and a communication system that wouldn't
be possible without science isn't it.

Let alone how thoroughly modern life is saturated
with the results of science.

There's a reason hospitals are full of doctors not priests.



[Edited 5/8/2017 1:41:33 PM ]

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louie6332
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Iam, I get it, you resort to bastardized science and bastardized history in an attempt to justify your God forsaken heresies. And you are opposed to testing your beliefs and theories. Scientists do, but you don’t. You fear that if you test them, they will prove false. You love your beliefs more than you love truth. The one thing you will NOT tolerate is truth. Men of good will do not do that. You have no use for Divine Revelation, the Jesus of the Bible, or for the Bible. Pagans, by the way, as I have already explained to you, do not worship God the Father, the Creator, or Jesus Christ. So stop calling Christians Pagans. That is calumny, it is bearing false witness against your neighbor, which is forbidden by God’s law.

Protestants, such as yourself, don’t mind asking their Mother, for example, to pray for them while she is alive, and that is all well and good. But then they stop asking her to pray for them when she is in Heaven. But it is revealed (there’s that pesky word again) that those in Heaven have greater power to intercede for them with God when they are in Heaven than they do when they are on earth. Oh, I know, I know, you have no use for divine revelation, you have your beloved heretics to advise you.

Iam, it is revealed by Our Lord in the Book of Revelation that the final destiny of “liars and lovers of lies” (and if you don’t know any such people, then look in the mirror) is the Second Death in the Lake of Fire. You need to heed that Divine Warning. Laugh it off at your own peril.

Louie

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duchessa
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Quote from fellowforyou:

An old joke involved holding a prophylactic for at least five minutes.
The piety ran off.


One still inside the wrapper or "after"?

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iam_resurrected
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Quote from muldoon1959:


There's a reason hospitals are full of doctors not priests.





Because other scientists suck at chemistry when pertaining towards biology and the human anatomy!!

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progrocknic
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
Because other scientists suck at chemistry when pertaining towards biology and the human anatomy!!


Wow. Just wow.

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iam_resurrected
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Quote from louie6332:
Iam, I get it, you resort to bastardized science and bastardized history in an attempt to justify your God forsaken heresies. And you are opposed to testing your beliefs and theories. Scientists do, but you don’t. You fear that if you test them, they will prove false. You love your beliefs more than you love truth. The one thing you will NOT tolerate is truth. Men of good will do not do that. You have no use for Divine Revelation, the Jesus of the Bible, or for the Bible. Pagans, by the way, as I have already explained to you, do not worship God the Father, the Creator, or Jesus Christ. So stop calling Christians Pagans. That is calumny, it is bearing false witness against your neighbor, which is forbidden by God’s law.


You do realize there are evidence of manuscripts less than 25 years after (YAH)shua ascended to heaven? And within these manuscripts pertained "no mythical virgin birth?" That is 300 years before Cathlicks bastardized the bible and added the fairy tale of the virgin birth!!



Protestants, such as yourself, don’t mind asking their Mother, for example, to pray for them while she is alive, and that is all well and good. But then they stop asking her to pray for them when she is in Heaven. But it is revealed (there’s that pesky word again) that those in Heaven have greater power to intercede for them with God when they are in Heaven than they do when they are on earth. Oh, I know, I know, you have no use for divine revelation, you have your beloved heretics to advise you.


She did not die for me and save me from what is yet to come. So why waste time on foolishness and just go to the source that can, and did, and still can save me?



Iam, it is revealed by Our Lord in the Book of Revelation that the final destiny of “liars and lovers of lies” (and if you don’t know any such people, then look in the mirror) is the Second Death in the Lake of Fire. You need to heed that Divine Warning. Laugh it off at your own peril.

Louie


I see a million liars each time I drive by any Cathlick Sanctuary hell hole of Satanic practices!!

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iam_resurrected
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Wow. Just wow.


OK, due to wealthy business men not allowing science to do their work.

But, why are there no facts that the drugs science is creating works compared to big business making knock offs?

Seems if science had "facts," there could be no knock offs!!

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progrocknic
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
Wow. Just wow.


OK, due to wealthy business men not allowing science to do their work.

But, why are there no facts that the drugs science is creating works compared to big business making knock offs?

Seems if science had "facts," there could be no knock offs!!


You can't even structure a sentence in a way that makes any sense. Why the f**k are you concerned with science?

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iam_resurrected
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I am structuring it in a way for my own purpose. Learn to think beyond your box. That is right, you do not. You accept the opinion of Hawking even when he cannot back it as a "fact!!"

Talk about sad.

5/8/2017 5:52:03 PM Mixing Religion and Politics | Page 6  

progrocknic
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
I am structuring it in a way for my own purpose. Learn to think beyond your box. That is right, you do not. You accept the opinion of Hawking even when he cannot back it as a "fact!!"

Talk about sad.


It's not about thinking outside the box. I can't even tell what you're thinking because your mastery of the English language is something to be admired.

5/8/2017 5:57:54 PM Mixing Religion and Politics | Page 6  

iam_resurrected
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My language is much like someone reading the definition to "philosophy," but chooses to skip past the first (4) words to the definition (it is made up)!!

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muldoon1959
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Your reading is f**ked up because you can look at
the definition of science and think it means philosophy

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iam_resurrected
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No, I know many within science, including one specifically on these forums would tell you that science is a philosophy. Now as much as I disagree with some things, he is spot on concerning many things pertaining science. No others within the beliefs aligned with science has ever disagreed with him.

It would be interesting to see you 2 discuss it since he is 100% atheist and believes he has never physically touched a thing (not a pencil or the keyboard-mobile devices-vagina), each day represent some time movement of space travel, and I will one day meet the thing that kicked evolution all off during my own time travel after this existence.

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GalaxyRogue1
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iam, STL is missing you in DGD

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iam_resurrected
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lol ok

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muldoon1959
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Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of creationists that have been brainwashed
by their creationist cult leaders that have been convinced into believing same
crock of shit you have.

Facts are facts.
Science is not philosophy.



science

[sahy-uh ns]


noun
1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws:
the mathematical sciences.
2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
3. any of the branches of natural or physical science.
4. systematized knowledge in general.
5. knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.
6. a particular branch of knowledge.
7. skill, especially reflecting a precise application of facts or principles; proficiency.


Quote from iam_resurrected:
No, I know many within science, including one specifically on these forums would tell you that science is a philosophy. Now as much as I disagree with some things, he is spot on concerning many things pertaining science. No others within the beliefs aligned with science has ever disagreed with him.

It would be interesting to see you 2 discuss it since he is 100% atheist and believes he has never physically touched a thing (not a pencil or the keyboard-mobile devices-vagina), each day represent some time movement of space travel, and I will one day meet the thing that kicked evolution all off during my own time travel after this existence.


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mr_bad_robot
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Those that don't want religion and politics to combine should be terrified of Islam.

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iam_resurrected
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No, this is more like the poster (copy/paste):

While I'm not familiar with the so-called "oaf," I'm overly familiar with the recalcitrant and semi-delusional mammal that chose to be resurrected because he, apparently, thought that being dead wasn't as much fun as he had stupidly anticipated. When anyone denies scientific and historical facts, as does he, in favor of an oft-repeated myth about the myriad virgin-born-miracle-working-resurrected-saviors that's a clue that they are ineffably imbalanced or, as he would put it, "mentally insane." As if there are insane feet, insane elbows, insane teeth, insane noses and so forth. It's not as if this error hasn't been pointed out to him, it has, he's just craving more attention for his transparent lies and himself. Maybe he thinks that he's another mythical character, as in Mithra, Horus, Krishna, Siddhartha, Jesus, Apollonius and many more.






I agree with all of you 100% except for BBT (no physics to back it and "math" is the bible), Evolution (vs inherited genes via natural selection), and the ability to define human biochemically as being born a certain way (pre-determined). or when aging/dating is processed by limits that create false readings but indicate a much older time frame.

Outside that, I know how science has enable my existence to be like driving thru a fast food place because we want it now and can have it now thanks to science.

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iam_resurrected
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I even agree that the birds today ancestors were Pterodactyl like Mastodons and Mammoths were to todays elephant.

Just do not agree that Ape whom is within 50% common genetics to other hairy primates (chimp-gorilla-orangutan-baboon), is related to homo sapiens as hominids when we are less than 1.5% on the sequence pattern to the apes full pattern.