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4/27/2017 10:45:53 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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"The teachings on love given by the Buddha are clear, scientific, and applicable… Love, compassion, joy, and equanimity are the very nature of an enlightened person. They are the four aspects of true love within ourselves and within everyone and everything.” -Thich Nhat Hanh-



The four qualities of Love a taught by Buddha...




1. LOVE (Maitri/Metta)

The first aspect of true love is maitri (metta, in Pali), the intention and capacity to offer joy and happiness. To develop that capacity, we have to practice looking and listening deeply so that we know what to do and what not to do to make others happy. If you offer your beloved something she does not need, that is not maitri. You have to see her real situation or what you offer might bring her unhappiness.

Without understanding, your love is not true love. You must look deeply in order to see and understand the needs, aspirations, and suffering of the one you love. We all need love. Love brings us joy and well-being. It is as natural as the air. We are loved by the air; we need fresh air to be happy and well. We are loved by trees. We need trees to be healthy. In order to be loved, we have to love, which means we have to understand. For our love to continue, we have to take the appropriate action or non-action to protect the air, the trees, and our beloved.


2. COMPASSION (Karuna)

The second aspect of true love is karuna, the intention and capacity to relieve and transform suffering and lighten sorrows. Karuna is usually translated as “compassion,” but that is not exactly correct. “Compassion” is composed of com (“together with”) and passion (“to suffer”). But we do not need to suffer to remove suffering from another person. Doctors, for instance, can relieve their patients’ suffering without experiencing the same disease in themselves. If we suffer too much, we may be crushed and unable to help. Still, until we find a better word, let us use “compassion” to translate karuna.

To develop compassion in ourselves, we need to practice mindful breathing, deep listening, and deep looking. The Lotus Sutra describes Avalokiteshvara as the bodhisattva who practices “looking with the eyes of compassion and listening deeply to the cries of the world.” Compassion contains deep concern. You know the other person is suffering, so you sit close to her. You look and listen deeply to her to be able to touch her pain. You are in deep communication, deep communion with her, and that alone brings some relief.

3. JOY (Mudita)

The third element of true love is mudita, joy. True love always brings joy to ourselves and to the one we love. If our love does not bring joy to both of us, it is not true love. Commentators explain that happiness relates to both body and mind, whereas joy relates primarily to mind.

This example is often given: Someone traveling in the desert sees a stream of cool water and experiences joy. On drinking the water, he experiences happiness. Ditthadhamma sukhavihari means “dwelling happily in the present moment.” We don’t rush to the future; we know that everything is here in the present moment.

Many small things can bring us tremendous joy, such as the awareness that we have eyes in good condition. We just have to open our eyes and we can see the blue sky, the violet flowers, the children, the trees, and so many other kinds of forms and colors. Dwelling in mindfulness, we can touch these wondrous and refreshing things, and our mind of joy arises naturally. Joy contains happiness and happiness contains joy.


4. EQUANIMITY (Upeksha)

The fourth element of true love is upeksha, which means equanimity, nonattachment, nondiscrimination, even- mindedness, or letting go. Upa means “over,” and iksha means “to look.” You climb the mountain to be able to look over the whole situation, not bound by one side or the other. If your love has attachment, discrimination, prejudice, or clinging in it, it is not true love.

People who do not understand Buddhism sometimes think upeksha means indifference, but true equanimity is neither cold nor indifferent. If you have more than one child, they are all your children. Upeksha does not mean that you don’t love. You love in a way that all your children receive your love, without discrimination.





What do you think...can real love exist between two people where these qualities don't?







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4/27/2017 11:00:25 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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One person had mine many years ago

Was totally adored by me

Was not enough for him

Told me flat out he only needed me for dh

And dh was the be all and end all he must break me down to make himself more popular than me

Wouldnt be satisfied til all my friends liked him better than me

So he would be in control of Everything i say do and who and what i talk to and about

Dgd is the outcome


One fact he didnt figure in though

Is free will


If that shit soooo important to him


Then hes not the person i ever did love in the first place


Hence it is dead dead dead


And whatever he WIN

Will NEVER include ME


Facts of life for dont let your narc dictate to you 101

4/27/2017 11:02:00 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
lunaglider
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True love can only exist when...the two involved can make love on a roller coaster while it is rollering.
That is a true test of their commitment...

4/27/2017 11:04:08 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
rubyrose2015
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I believe True Love means staying together until one of you dies.

4/27/2017 11:07:03 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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Quote from lunaglider:
True love can only exist when...the two involved can make love on a roller coaster while it is rollering.
That is a true test of their commitment...



When one dont show up as promised because they choose to trolling dh instead despite being told its not of any importance whatsoever, yet that big noggin cant quite grasp whats priority and whats not... prolly cus it was lying all along

Thats kinda hard to bypass

End result= its dead

4/27/2017 11:10:32 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

Suzhi
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Hey Flirty, What are The Four Qualities of Love as Taught by Bubba???






4/27/2017 11:20:33 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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The difference is i have a family

My family is very good people

And i have two young adult sons and an huge extended family

And im not prepared to ever let some f**king nutbag headcase with a bad temper anywhere in the vicinity of my precious home and family.

Unfortunately at this point, if my family ever caught a whiff of what dumbass there has been done toward me by him... they'd kick the living shit outta him

Which is why he is now wasting his time. Like i said... its dead dead dead

He should have considered his actions before his dire need for internet trolling me for his narc supply.

All actions have consequences. He secured his place in my life by those actions.... in other words.... he made it an impossibility that he would ever be able to be anywhere near me.

Such is life and the choices we make.



Responsibility is more important than so called Love



[Edited 4/27/2017 11:22:45 PM ]

4/27/2017 11:57:00 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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To add to that

I do hope he will find happiness someday with someone thats right for him

As ive always told him, despite everything hes done, i always wish him only the best.

I could never hold any hate toward him although i damn well tried many times that he deserve.



The end.


I dont wish to discuss this ever again.

4/28/2017 12:09:50 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

stratus55
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dear lord..a statue can speak..nope.

4/28/2017 12:25:49 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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4/28/2017 12:31:32 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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I don't believe true love can exist without these qualities....each person should want all of this and more for each other and not be the cause of their partners pain....anything other than these qualities I don't see it as love...I see it as something else but not love.....so Harley obviously these qualities were lacking on his part...

4/28/2017 1:16:49 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

sddnly_snoozin
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I am not sure if I agree or not with this Flirty. I think I need coffee and to reflect on it.

But as a quickie, I think you need to be able to fully embrace who you are and love that person. Before you can even embrace someone else no matter how deeply flawed you both are.



4/28/2017 1:49:22 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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One whom lives their entire life solely internet based socialising, cannot comprehend real life mirror

Because all internet based interaction is by example, exactly why you fail and will always fail when trying to "figure me out". Because like i always told you... i have no desire nor any intention ever to play out my real life on a board i only attend after all my day duties is done and is my downtime playing in place of where i used to watch tv.

I live in. City central during weekdays... Right on the nightlife hotspot. Its literally impossible to AVOID people never mind meet them. Duh

This is my city & i love it... nothing ever could compare to my native soil ...

You never had the balls to visit... so you snoozed...you loozed


Dont ever try to lecture me about what love is.... mister hater panties who dont know shit about real love of real family

Or of oneself

Im sure happy bunny in all areas

But

you are too f**king selfish to even know anything about such


Now stfu

you little pissant.

Quitcher b*tchin
&

Stick a sock in it



I dont want ANY love from this shithole

Not now

Not ever

Get it?



Good.

Drop the fukin mic/



[Edited 4/28/2017 1:52:41 AM ]

4/28/2017 1:52:50 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
bluesrule
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My 4 "qualities" are different from the Buddha.

Respect

Honesty

Communication

Compatibility


I don't believe there is anything scientific about love. It is a feeling, an emotion that comes more from the heart than the brain. You can't demand or command it. Inherently free and sometimes strikes like lightning. Whether it is true love..... well that takes time to find out. Both good and bad times. The bad times though are the true test.

4/28/2017 2:03:05 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
condor_0000
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True love is only for our children, our pets, and certain chocolaty foods.

4/28/2017 2:13:57 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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Mutulal respect is most important

When one has psychotic meltdown because you arguing with his fake profile he normally trolls you and all your friends with, and hes afraid you might notice its him. So he starts the screaming abuse at you in private....its a hell of a shock.. like wtf why wft ?? Never an explanation........ then never stops ever after ..cus since you now know what he really is from that little slip of the mask of his ...he may as well keep the abuse up forver after, until he can figure out how best to f**k you and everyone around you over for his best interest.

Sucks when ya pick a slightly more intelligent version that can read you like a book

Rather than the usual dumb fools he picks for trolls

I remember three of his previous stool pigeons he used to try mess with me before in exact same way for exact same reason.

They didnt last long til he trashed the livin shit out them



[Edited 4/28/2017 2:14:38 AM ]

4/28/2017 2:17:53 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

4/28/2017 2:31:21 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

eyesofmedusa
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Only true love..is love of self...

Jmo...Hi love

4/28/2017 2:46:16 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
xxHarleyQuinn
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Quote from eyesofmedusa:
Only true love..is love of self...

Jmo...Hi love





Whoaaaa

Thats one selfish as hell opinion and complete bollox

4/28/2017 3:21:40 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
bluesrule
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Quote from eyesofmedusa:
Only true love..is love of self...

Jmo...Hi love



True that Eyes. We first have to love the person we are. How many heartaches and mistakes before most understand that? Not a damn thing selfish about it. The term "true love" never set well with me. Just like the term "soul mates". That is when referring to a relationship between a woman and a man. The Buddha may believe in enlightenment through his 4 steps but mine came when I realized that only I am responsible for my own happiness. That I am far more than just a mother or a wife. I am a woman who has walked through fire and survived some ugly chit from an early age. Looking in the mirror I can honestly say I like that gal looking back at me. And she seems to feel the same. Tough old broads that we are.





4/28/2017 3:22:57 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
ingloriusbastrd
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

4/28/2017 3:36:04 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
dawling
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honesty attractive respect

4/28/2017 3:38:34 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
bluesrule
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"Love cares what becomes of you because love knows that we are all interconnected. Love is inherently compassionate and empathic. Love knows that the "other" is also oneself. This is the true nature of love and love itself can not be manipulated or restrained. Love honors the sovereignty of each soul. Love is its own law."





Buddha approved.





4/28/2017 3:49:45 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

stanleyzee
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Z

4/28/2017 4:32:04 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
Mercedes_3
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What's his is mine

What's mine is mine

What's our's is mine

4/28/2017 4:49:33 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
cavie59
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While I do see the possibility, of two people developing true love according to the teaching of Buddha, I have rarely seen it in real life.

The love that Buddha teaches, can and will exist only, if BOTH people believe in it. Far too often that love is one sided.

When you throw in the human equation, one person will almost ALWAYS, try to play the game of only taking and never giving back.

Love, much less true love is nothing more than a fairy tale.

4/28/2017 7:30:29 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

playingindirt
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love is not complicated.
when you have to break it down into sections like that for clarity the meaning was already lost.

4/28/2017 9:20:39 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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I don't see this as being complicated at all...I see these as inherent things that should already be present....the only reason this interested me is because I guess they put into words what it is that I have always wanted in a relationship....I think you can take all the much needed characteristics of a healthy and loving relationship and fit them all under these categories.....



Take one or some of them away and what do you have left?....



[Edited 4/28/2017 9:21:52 AM ]

4/28/2017 9:51:27 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

playingindirt
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Quote from M4mischief:
I don't see this as being complicated at all...I see these as inherent things that should already be present....the only reason this interested me is because I guess they put into words what it is that I have always wanted in a relationship....I think you can take all the much needed characteristics of a healthy and loving relationship and fit them all under these categories.....



Take one or some of them away and what do you have left?....


love is a simple basic emotion until people complicate it by picking it a part.

when you start picking apart a flower trying to find out why it's so beautiful the flower gets destroyed.

but I'm glad you get something out of the 4 sections of it.



[Edited 4/28/2017 9:51:56 AM ]

4/28/2017 9:52:43 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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Its the qualities I have always looked for but never found.....

4/28/2017 9:58:06 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Do you think those qualites are idealism Flirty rather than the reality? Perhaps your idea of etopia?

4/28/2017 10:01:45 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

stanleyzee
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TRUE love is constant.

I'm blocked yet still Love

4/28/2017 10:08:00 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
onlymessagin
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My mom always said you need three things love, trust and respect. If one falls they all fall. I think I agree with that.

4/28/2017 10:09:53 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

archer513
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The mass majority of humans are too self evolved for true love. Too much "self love"

They surround their selves in delusion. The majority of ppl can't look inward and identify their insecurities and flaws,nor learn to live with the acceptance of who they truly are...too weak-their psyche can't handle it.

They seek "completion" in another,rather than a shared experience.

"He/she didn't fix me..."

4/28/2017 10:10:53 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
opsiidaisy
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Quote from archer513:
The mass majority of humans are too self evolved for true love. Too much "self love"

They surround their selves in delusion. The majority of ppl can't look inward and identify their insecurities and flaws,nor learn to live with the acceptance of who they truly are...too weak-their psyche can't handle it.

They seek "completion" in another,rather than a shared experience.

"He/she didn't fix me..."




4/28/2017 10:27:40 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

playingindirt
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Quote from archer513:
The mass majority of humans are too self evolved for true love. Too much "self love"

They surround their selves in delusion. The majority of ppl can't look inward and identify their insecurities and flaws,nor learn to live with the acceptance of who they truly are...too weak-their psyche can't handle it.

They seek "completion" in another,rather than a shared experience.

"He/she didn't fix me..."

I wouldn't call that true love.
I think they can look inward. they just choose not to.



[Edited 4/28/2017 10:28:05 AM ]

4/28/2017 11:01:08 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Anne I think he's saying people are too selfish and self absorbed for true love. That it's about their needs rather than what love is.

4/28/2017 11:01:48 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
opsiidaisy
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^ yep

4/28/2017 11:03:30 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
Olaf_the_german
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We hear so much about true love...so what the f**k is false love or average love or 'eh' love.

Love is love you either love or you don't there are no "shades" of it.



[Edited 4/28/2017 11:03:48 AM ]

4/28/2017 11:04:39 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
opsiidaisy
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hear hear. Missed you crumpet.

4/28/2017 11:42:28 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

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4/28/2017 12:54:44 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

playingindirt
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
Anne I think he's saying people are too selfish and self absorbed for true love. That it's about their needs rather than what love is.


lol they can just play by themselves then. marbles would be out of the question.

4/28/2017 1:37:30 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Anne I think they do. But I am not sure it's marbles

4/28/2017 1:40:37 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
opsiidaisy
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fluffy more like

4/28/2017 1:42:09 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

stratus55
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hey zee..id never block you..true love means allways havin to say she,ll be sorry.......

4/28/2017 2:00:23 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

sddnly_snoozin
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you meant dice right?

4/28/2017 5:24:25 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

eyesofmedusa
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Quote from bluesrule:
True that Eyes. We first have to love the person we are. How many heartaches and mistakes before most understand that? Not a damn thing selfish about it. The term "true love" never set well with me. Just like the term "soul mates". That is when referring to a relationship between a woman and a man. The Buddha may believe in enlightenment through his 4 steps but mine came when I realized that only I am responsible for my own happiness. That I am far more than just a mother or a wife. I am a woman who has walked through fire and survived some ugly chit from an early age. Looking in the mirror I can honestly say I like that gal looking back at me. And she seems to feel the same. Tough old broads that we are.





And there ya go....

I loathe the soul mate sht..keeps ppl chasing unicorns..

If one dsnt like or love self..how are they capable of loving another ?

Not in a healthy way..they aren't...they consantly give and are not capable of receiving...

4/28/2017 6:04:10 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
Do you think those qualites are idealism Flirty rather than the reality? Perhaps your idea of etopia?




No...those are important inner qualities for me....I don't see any eutopia in these qualities at all...I mostly see common sense and perhaps what's missing in a lot of relationships and why they don't last....

4/28/2017 6:07:31 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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Quote from archer513:
The mass majority of humans are too self evolved for true love. Too much "self love"

They surround their selves in delusion. The majority of ppl can't look inward and identify their insecurities and flaws,nor learn to live with the acceptance of who they truly are...too weak-their psyche can't handle it.

They seek "completion" in another,rather than a shared experience.

"He/she didn't fix me..."




Self love is not selfishness...do you think you can loath yourself and really love another person?....the falsity is always doing for others and not yourself...this is why people cant go inward because they are always looking outward at others and their needs while never knowing or subverting their own....






True love is probably the wrong phrase...how about real love vs. love in disguise?.....



[Edited 4/28/2017 6:08:15 PM ]

4/28/2017 6:09:07 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
thebigugly0
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I self love as much as I can. So long as the Jergens lotion holds out

4/28/2017 6:10:42 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
Mercedes_3
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Quote from archer513:
The mass majority of humans are too self evolved for true love. Too much "self love"

They surround their selves in delusion. The majority of ppl can't look inward and identify their insecurities and flaws,nor learn to live with the acceptance of who they truly are...too weak-their psyche can't handle it.

They seek "completion" in another,rather than a shared experience.

"He/she didn't fix me..."



You mean they live on here surrounding themselves
with attention they would never receive in the
real world because they're too bloody busy living
in this joint.

I see you some times run around giving receiving attention
yet there is no way in hell you would do that in the
real world.

4/28/2017 6:12:47 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
opsiidaisy
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I don't think archer meant "self love" in that sense, flirty. I think he was speaking about being all about "me, me, me" thing. At least that's how I read that.

4/28/2017 6:12:54 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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Quote from thebigugly0:
I self love as much as I can. So long as the Jergens lotion holds out




Better stock up....



Rose....

4/28/2017 6:13:39 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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Quote from opsiidaisy:
I don't think archer meant "self love" in that sense, flirty. I think he was speaking about being all about "me, me, me" thing. At least that's how I read that.




That's not self love...that's selfishness.....

4/28/2017 6:17:47 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  
opsiidaisy
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Yeah, that's why he used quotation marks for those words. I think he was being ironic about it. But that was my reading. I could be wrong.






[Edited 4/28/2017 6:18:02 PM ]

4/28/2017 6:27:59 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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Gotcha....a lot of people confuse the two...that's why I thought I would clarify....

4/29/2017 1:11:07 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

sddnly_snoozin
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Quote from M4mischief:
No...those are important inner qualities for me....I don't see any eutopia in these qualities at all...I mostly see common sense and perhaps what's missing in a lot of relationships and why they don't last....


I understand it is what you personally look for in others. But if it is a constant where it is void. Is it an idealism of your perfect partner?

Like all religions and manters there are positives. But, are they not just stories or ideals of a more perfect world, perfect relationship for us or even as far as the ideal of other humans?



4/29/2017 5:07:39 AM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

stanleyzee
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4/29/2017 8:10:57 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

M4mischief
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Quote from sddnly_snoozin:
I understand it is what you personally look for in others. But if it is a constant where it is void. Is it an idealism of your perfect partner?

Like all religions and manters there are positives. But, are they not just stories or ideals of a more perfect world, perfect relationship for us or even as far as the ideal of other humans?




No...its really not an ideal....im not looking for perfect...what I do think is when people really love each other...these things come naturally....I want my partner to be happy so im not going to do anything intentionally to make him unhappy and I want the same in return...I will always feel compassion for my partner out of love and I want the same in return....I want to do everything I can to bring joy into my partners life and not strife and I want the same in return...and of course I want my partner to see me as a separate person with wants...needs...desires and opinions that are my own and don't have to be his and I can offer the same...so I don't see how any of this is utopian....I see it as the most natural thing in the world because all these things stem from love.....

4/29/2017 8:34:47 PM The 4 Qualities of True Love...  

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