Why is it secret?

5/1/2017 11:02:55 PM	Why is it secret?
trackker Vancouver, WA 35, joined May. 2014	How come God wants us to know so much, but leaves out everything about what, where, and why does God come from? Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
5/2/2017 3:15:30 AM	Why is it secret?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from trackker: How come God wants us to know so much, but leaves out everything about what, where, and why does God come from? It's all here now, trackker, The Urantia Book. This is the one to get, this cover. Everything is explained:
5/2/2017 3:42:30 AM	Why is it secret?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	There is no secret---God doesn't come from anywhere. God is, and always was. "Who are you?" Moses asked God. "I am who am," answered God.
5/2/2017 5:28:35 AM	Why is it secret?
a_nubian Columbus, OH 53, joined Jan. 2011	Quote from trackker: How come God wants us to know so much, but leaves out everything about what, where, and why does God come from? Actually Trackker that's a good question. I don't think He leaves out everything but He does give us enough information which can be found in the bible. However; the most sincere Christians can't even answer some of question you have asked because they don't know. Those questions you have asked will take eternity to find out. It doesn't mean you don't try and get those questions answered. The first step is to pray to God and secondly read His Word so He will reveal some of those answers to you.
5/2/2017 7:21:12 AM	Why is it secret?
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	Quote from trackker: How come God wants us to know so much, but leaves out everything about what, where, and why does God come from? Great questions, and yes we like to complicate things so much, it seems like that is the case. I read a quote once that stuck with me, sorry I cannot recall who said it now. But "theology is like looking for a black cat in a dark room". And so many in Christianity get caught up, in proving that they and only they are right about God, a person on the out side looking in is bound to find the whole thing confusing. And while we on here, my self included, like to argue for ever about "theology", their is only one person that we know of that Christ accepted. And he did not know theology, he was not a member of any church, he did not have any rituals done done for him, nothing of the sort. It was the thief on the Cross next to Jesus. Luke 23:33-43 39 One of the criminals who had been hanged [on a cross beside Him] kept hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us [from death]!” 40 But the other one rebuked him, saying, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 We are suffering justly, because we are getting what we deserve for what we have done; but this Man has done nothing wrong.” 42 And he was saying, “Jesus, [please] remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” 43 Jesus said to him, “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, today you will be with Me in [c]Paradise.” What did that thief know? Only that he realized he him self was lacking, and he acknowledged he was missing something and sought the Higher Power that we call God. And this happened when all the disciples were abandoning the Lord, best summed up here : Yet it is a miracle that one thief, while in agony himself, heard the Spirit of God call him to repentance and acceptance of the forgiveness God was just about to provide through the death of Christ. While the disciples were abandoning the Lord, this man answered the call, and his sins were forgiven, including his blasphemy against the Son of God What can we learn from the thief on the cross? - Got Questions https://www.gotquestions.org/thief-on-the-cross.html How do you envision God?
5/2/2017 7:57:51 AM	Why is it secret?
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Quote from trackker: How come God wants us to know so much, but leaves out everything about what, where, and why does God come from? Firstly, Trackker ~~ Have you read the Bible? May I suggest that since you are a seeker that you begin with the book of Luke. From there you may be inclined to move into the book of Matthew. Secondly ~~ God didn't "write" the Bible, mankind did. God is not an author of confusion. God IS, always HAS BEEN, always WILL BE. God is the ALPHA & OMEGA (the beginning & the end). God is the SELF-EXISTING/ETERNAL ONE (Yahweh from the verb HAYAH [to be]). God says "I AM THAT I AM". How do I know these things? The Bible tells me so. Exodus 3:14 Isaiah 40:28 Romans 16:26 1 Timothy 1:17 The Bible instructs the believer that nothing is hidden and shall reveal itself to the seeker. Good luck.
5/2/2017 7:59:39 AM	Why is it secret?
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Quote from followjesusonly: It's all here now, trackker, The Urantia Book. This is the one to get, this cover. Everything is explained: Still pushing books sales, eh, FJO? What's it going for now:$4.95 on Amazon?
5/2/2017 9:09:04 AM	Why is it secret?
iam_resurrected Reno, NV 46, joined Jul. 2014	Quote from trackker: How come God wants us to know so much, but leaves out everything about what, where, and why does God come from? How you know things? You learn them or are exposed to them. So how are you exposed to the knowledge of Yahweh? That is where it takes you to want to research, study, ask the right questions to learn which direction you need to look, like why Yahweh is like He is or why He does the things in the mannerism He does? The answers are there!! You just need to get yourself aligned properly, so you are in position to understand what you are reading, to know which direction to go from there!!
5/2/2017 9:44:16 AM	Why is it secret?
brashdoc Chehalis, WA 64, joined Aug. 2008	Quote: "How come God wants us to know so much, but leaves out everything about what, where, and why does God come from?" Great questions Trakker and welcome to the Christian only section and from a fellow Washingtonian! God can answer those questions if you look in the right spot: His revelation of Himself in the Bible. It reveals His purposes & His desire to build a relationship with each one of us & actually has things for us to accomplish that only we can uniquely do. That does boggle my mind, God picking me to accomplish good works on this earth. There really is a rewarding purpose for our lives. And it all comes down to a couple simple things really. F aithfulness W holeheartedness A vailability T eachableness 2nd Chronicles chapter 16, verse 9 (Old Testament, first half of the Bible): "The eyes of the LORD search the whole earth in order to support those whose hearts are fully committed toward Him." We can act wisely or we can act foolishly. It is our choice. In this passage King Asa of Israel acted foolishly. We all have done that and suffered the consequences. If anything is worth doing (putting time & effort into it), it is worth doing right. God is searching throughout the whole earth, among billions of people, for those who have a heart that is completely sincere, in seeking after Him in simple trust. These are the people God will support & strengthen for the monumental task He has for each one of us--to make an eternal lasting impact on this earth. Sound exciting? It is. God has already been searching for you. And you probably didn't know that. Now it's time for us to search for Him. We start in His revealed Word, the Bible & seek Him in complete sincerity. We can actually find God, Who seems hidden or in secret. New Testament, Book of Hebrews, Chapter 11, starting at verse 1: Verse 1: "Faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen; it gives us assurance about things we do not see." Verse 2: "For by it our ancestors gained approval." Verse 3: "By faith we understand that the universe was created by the Word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible." Verse 6: "Now without faith it is impossible to please God, for whoever comes to Him must believe that He EXISTS--and that He REWARDS those who DILIGENTLY SEARCH for Him. Simple starting points: believe that God exists; trust that He will reward those who diligently search for Him. Let us summarize so far: by the Word of God we learn He is searching for us. by the Word of God we learn God created the whole universe, including ourselves. What was invisible became visible. *by the Word of God we learn that if we are to come to God & know Him, we must start with believing He exists & He will reward our diligent search for Him. In going from the invisible to the visible, where is our beginning point? New Testament, Gospel (means 'Good News') of John, Chapter 1: Verse 1: "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." Verses 9,10 "The True Light that gives light (revelation) to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world and though the world was created by Him, the world did NOT recognize Him. Verse 14: "And the Word became flesh (human) and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." Verse 18: "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, He has explained Him." The beginning point is Jesus Christ. When you read about Him & what He taught & did, you will find God and your questions will be answered. The invisible God became visible. Start by getting a Bible if you don't have one and start reading in the New Testament Gospels concerning the life and teaching of Jesus Christ. Start with the gospel of John and work your way back to the gospel of Matthew. If you have questions as you go along feel free to ask them. That is what I did when I began my diligent search for the living and existing Creator God. New Testament, I Timothy, Chapter 3 verse 16: "And by common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: God appeared in human form, was justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world and ascended up to heaven in glory." #1. Are you serious about seeking God, to know not only about Him but know Him personally, in the greatest relationship a human being could ever enter into? This is what the Creator of the universe says, Who stretched out the heavens and made the whole earth inhabitable, the maker of both the visible and invisible realms:
5/2/2017 12:02:41 PM	Why is it secret?
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Theology is certainly not like looking for a black cat in a dark room. Only minds unenlightened by Christ would ever say, or even think, such a thing. Christ is the Light of the world and theology exists to help us see that Light even better.
5/2/2017 12:54:53 PM	Why is it secret?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from cupocheer: Still pushing books sales, eh, FJO? What's it going for now:$4.95 on Amazon? Just telling people about God's new revelation to our world, not selling anything. And just look at you, in your own hypocrisy, "pushing" your beliefs on people: "May I suggest that since you are a seeker that you begin with the book of Luke. From there you may be inclined to move into the book of Matthew." For crying out loud, for all you know tracker has read the bible 50 times. Why are you talking down to him and why are you tearing down someone else's efforts to publicize God's new revelation to our world? Shame on you.
5/2/2017 1:01:23 PM	Why is it secret?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from cupocheer: Still pushing books sales, eh, FJO? What's it going for now:$4.95 on Amazon? Trackker, above, you see a classic knee-jerk reaction of someone who objects to anything that they don't already believe, by someone who has not even read what it is she is trying to trash. We even have people here who say there is "no salvation" outside of their particular sect. Cupocheer uses the "confused" emoticon at the end of her post, and she certainly is that.
5/2/2017 1:19:42 PM	Why is it secret?
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Damn... An encore! Thanks, FJO. I must have really hit a nerve on that one.
5/2/2017 1:28:31 PM	Why is it secret?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from cupocheer: Still pushing books sales, eh, FJO? What's it going for now:$4.95 on Amazon? What are you afraid of, cup? That someone might find a truth that you currently don't possess and refuse to look for? If you had lived 2000 years ago you probably would have said, "Still pushing that "gospel of the kingdom," eh, Jesus?" Human nature doesn't change. Shame on you, cup. Even the pope describes people like you who "who believe they possess the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil."
5/2/2017 1:33:16 PM	Why is it secret?
trackker Vancouver, WA 35, joined May. 2014	Quote from followjesusonly: Trackker, above, you see a classic knee-jerk reaction of someone who objects to anything that they don't already believe, by someone who has not even read what it is she is trying to trash. We even have people here who say there is "no salvation" outside of their particular sect. Cupocheer uses the "confused" emoticon at the end of her post, and she certainly is that. I can't stand Coposhit, but she sure as hell is smarter than your stupid delusional ass. The bible is pretty clear about it being the only truth. So take your book and shove it up your ignorant ass.
5/2/2017 1:37:43 PM	Why is it secret?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from trackker: I can't stand Coposhit, but she sure as hell is smarter than your stupid delusional ass. The bible is pretty clear about it being the only truth. So take your book and shove it up your ignorant ass. He's all yours, cup.
5/2/2017 2:34:59 PM	Why is it secret?
share_n_love Fort Wayne, IN 61, joined Dec. 2012	YHVH God said His word does not return [to Him] void. Yahshua tells us this in John 3:12, "If I have told all of you that which is in the earth and you are not believing, how shall you believe me if I tell you that which is in Heaven?" If man can't TRUST in God with everything we do see, hear, and touch that He has created, then it would be useless for YHVH God to show us things we couldn't possibly understand outside the human existence.
5/2/2017 6:21:21 PM	Why is it secret?
trackker Vancouver, WA 35, joined May. 2014	Quote from share_n_love: YHVH God said His word does not return [to Him] void. Yahshua tells us this in John 3:12, "If I have told all of you that which is in the earth and you are not believing, how shall you believe me if I tell you that which is in Heaven?" If man can't TRUST in God with everything we do see, hear, and touch that He has created, then it would be useless for YHVH God to show us things we couldn't possibly understand outside the human existence. This has nothing to do with trust, I trust God is real, and everything that is said. God could have explained heaven, angels, and where I AM came from, is there not a beginning and an end to everything? There is a reason, and us not being able to comprehend doesn't sound credible enough.
5/3/2017 3:30:45 AM	Why is it secret?
share_n_love Fort Wayne, IN 61, joined Dec. 2012	Quote from trackker: This has nothing to do with trust, I trust God is real, and everything that is said. God could have explained heaven, angels, and where I AM came from, is there not a beginning and an end to everything? There is a reason, and us not being able to comprehend doesn't sound credible enough. You are a whiner, and it is all about trust. A man running a race doesn't get the crown until he crosses the finish line. The things you are wanting is in the crown of Yahshua, and we do not get those answers until we trust Him and cross the finish line. And whether you like it or not, this is how it is...
5/3/2017 9:33:32 AM	Why is it secret?
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Theology is certainly not like looking for a black cat in a dark room. Only minds unenlightened by Christ would ever say, or even think, such a thing. Christ is the Light of the world and theology exists to help us see that Light even better. You missed the whole point judge. Matthew 7:7-8 Amplified Bible (AMP) Prayer and the Golden Rule 7 “[a]Ask and keep on asking and it will be given to you; seek and keep on seeking and you will find; knock and keep on knocking and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who keeps on asking receives, and he who keeps on seeking finds, and to him who keeps on knocking, it will be opened. Dismas had no such things, yet he found Christ. All the other stuff comes after one finds Christ. But you in your arrogance, judge me? I dunno if you are a Christian or not. I cannot read your heart, only Christ can. But you judge me? Last thing I will ever say to you, adios. You better learn this: Luke 9:53-56 Amplified Bible (AMP) 53 but the people would not welcome Him, [a]because He was traveling toward Jerusalem. 54 When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and destroy them?” 55 But He turned and rebuked them [and He said, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are; 56 for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”] And they journeyed on to another village. Could someone copy and paste this, I`m blocking this judge.
5/3/2017 2:36:41 PM	Why is it secret?
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 74, joined May. 2012	Quote from isna_la_wica: You missed the whole point judge. Matthew 7:7-8 Amplified Bible (AMP) Prayer and the Golden Rule 7 “[a]Ask and keep on asking and it will be given to you; seek and keep on seeking and you will find; knock and keep on knocking and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who keeps on asking receives, and he who keeps on seeking finds, and to him who keeps on knocking, it will be opened. Dismas had no such things, yet he found Christ. All the other stuff comes after one finds Christ. But you in your arrogance, judge me? I dunno if you are a Christian or not. I cannot read your heart, only Christ can. But you judge me? Last thing I will ever say to you, adios. You better learn this: Luke 9:53-56 Amplified Bible (AMP) 53 but the people would not welcome Him, [a]because He was traveling toward Jerusalem. 54 When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and destroy them?” 55 But He turned and rebuked them [and He said, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are; 56 for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them.”] And they journeyed on to another village. Could someone copy and paste this, I`m blocking this judge.
5/30/2017 8:31:14 AM	Why is it secret?
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010

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