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shawnee_b
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I saw that, what a dolt.




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louie6332
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Lobo, I can’t let you get away with that, apparently you never read anything but government propaganda. Diet coke contains an artificial sweetener that is a poison. It causes an epidemic of diabetes and causes people to crave food and get fat. Yes, you heard that right, it does not cause people to lose weight, but causes them to gain weight.

And you say: “Just look at the screeching from them when Michelle Obama tried some very basic steps to address the problem, like trying to get children to eat healthy food.”

Apparently you have never seen one of these so called “healthy” meals that were being FORCED on unfortunate, hapless school kids, who just dumped it in the garbage can on the way out. Thank the Good Lord that that has now been stopped. And the kids themselves and their parents are cheering. Thank you Lord. Thank you Lord. Thank you Lord.

Lobo, don’t describe this crap as “healthy” until you sit down and eat it yourself—for a year.

Lobo, you talk like a Communist, using all its buzz words. And you talk like one of the animals on George Orwell's "Animal Farm". Which animal are you?

Louie

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mr_bad_robot
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Waste diet colas are distilled to extract the wood alcohol. Most of the extracted alcohol is used for concrete furnaces.

There is nothing good about pop. Everything in it is bad for you.

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lobo_corazon
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Quote from louie6332:
Lobo, I can’t let you get away with that, apparently you never read anything but government propaganda.

No. You should know better, but I know you don't.

Any time I seem to be using "communist buzz words" it must be because communist philosophers and I are both more intelligent than you, and arrived at the same solid conclusion independently.

Thanks for the demonstration of reactionary social conservatives fighting for their processed sugars and deep-fried yum yums though!



[Edited 5/8/2017 3:35:23 PM ]

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lobo_corazon
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Quote from ultrabrat007:
I like that idea. Somewhere along the line I was volunteered to pay for everyones irresponsibility, problems, laziness and stupidity..

There is a simple reason for that. If the lazy people are left to starve, sooner or later they will come for what you have. And in the US, the lazy people are well armed so if they are hungry enough they will have no problem killing you to raid your fridge.

Welfare in a capitalist system like the US is primarily a crime deterrent.

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lobo_corazon
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Quote from shawnee_b:
Diet pop is no good for anyone either. Try water.

Even pure fruit juice makes you fat.

Water is the best simple choice by far.

You want to know what's really sad though? Next time you're in the grocery store check out the price for a gallon of milk, a gallon of water, and a gallon of Coke.


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stellar007
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I've never seen a "gallon" of coke before Lobo..



In fact, I didn't even know they sold things by the gallon there in Canada!?

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shawnee_b
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
Even pure fruit juice makes you fat.

Water is the best simple choice by far.

You want to know what's really sad though? Next time you're in the grocery store check out the price for a gallon of milk, a gallon of water, and a gallon of Coke.


I may get some organic milk in a store for 1 coffee and tea in the am. Nothing else, cept maybe a few pops for guests don't know any better and can't do without.

I distill my water and drink quite a bit of it. More people should do water, they may learn to like it. So many friends are 12pk a day sugar soda drinkers

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lobo_corazon
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I didn't take the time to do the calculation for you using your primitive British Imperial units.

We sell stuff by the liter, but I knew you wouldn't be able to picture that, so I used a term you would understand... I thought.


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naprinciple
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Quote from shawnee_b:
I may get some organic milk in a store for 1 coffee and tea in the am. Nothing else, cept maybe a few pops for guests don't know any better and can't do without.

I distill my water and drink quite a bit of it. More people should do water, they may learn to like it. So many friends are 12pk a day sugar soda drinkers




All I drink is water, coffee and tea.




An IPA once in a while too.

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mr_bad_robot
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Milk $1.80
Water $1.00 spring or purified
Coke store brand 80 cents for 2. Lt.

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stellar007
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
I didn't take the time to do the calculation for you using your primitive British Imperial units.

We sell stuff by the liter, but I knew you wouldn't be able to picture that, so I used a term you would understand... I thought.


Guess you thought wrong! And you're wrong with regards to cost also!

There are almost 4 liters in a gallon! A gallon of milk and a gallon of Coke or Pepsi are about the same cost.

I drink milk in Tea during the winter months only and milk with cereal. Occasionally I'll have a glass of milk with warm chocolate chip cookies.

I don't drink water period! Unless it's a real hot day and the water is ice cold. In fact, it's been proven bottled water contains chemicals that are bad for you! And any f00l who trust tap water and the stuff they put into that are pretty foolish also! Well water can be just as deadly depending if its exposed to contamination such as dead animals, fertilizer or other such naturally occurring mineral deposits and such. You notice most people who drink well water at a young age are short and have weak bones.

Soda Pop isn't the greatest either but I drink this mostly and I stay away from any diet drinks as they are packed with sodium and artificial sweeteners that are known to give lab rats cancer. People talk like soda pop is so corrosive but truth is our stomachs aren't made out of steel so it's not the same. Our stomachs contain acids that would also eat thru steel much quicker. In my opinion the soda breaks down food and helps digestion whereas water does nothing of the sort. There are foods that go together much like pickles and hamburgers along with wine and Italian food or vinegar and deep fried foods.

I know someone in my family that has drank coke since forever and they are almost 90 years old! Even Lobo's idol Warren Buffet drinks a lot of coke but that's not really fair to mention given the fact he owns some 60 million shares of coke.

Still, what is good for you does not mean it's good for me.

And FYI Robot, anything outside of Coke or Pepsi is not really soda pop.. it's $hit! Perhaps Fago could be a 3rd place but even that's scraping the bottom of the barrel. Best to stick with Coke!

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progrocknic
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There is something beside Coke or Pepsi that's good. Birch beer. I dont have a favorite brand but its the only soda I drink.

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stellar007
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I guess if you like bark and the taste of root beer that's fine... But it's still Soda Pop more or less.

I used to like New York Seltzer but they quit making the stuff.

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mr_bad_robot
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Organic. People pay a premium for produce grown the way it was 150 years ago.

Fields covered in un sterilized Cow Crap running the risk of Listeria.

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cafe_express
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No problem, that will go right along with the refugees coming in from Yemen with Cholera.

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jillybodob
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People forget that opium dens were legal in the US back in the early 1900's.

Not saying it was a good thing, but it's true.






Quote from mr_bad_robot:
Organic. People pay a premium for produce grown the way it was 150 years ago.

Fields covered in un sterilized Cow Crap running the risk of Listeria.


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ultrabrat007
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
There is a simple reason for that. If the lazy people are left to starve, sooner or later they will come for what you have. And in the US, the lazy people are well armed so if they are hungry enough they will have no problem killing you to raid your fridge.

Welfare in a capitalist system like the US is primarily a crime deterrent.
I cannot ignore that crime would be more rampid without welfare assistance. Desparate starving people will commit criminal acts to survive..

So what youre saying is Im still being robbed.. but in a sugar coated way..



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stellar007
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Don't sugar coat it! They'll want to eat that too! LOL

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ultrabrat007
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Quote from stellar007:
Don't sugar coat it! They'll want to eat that too! LOL


That is one reason they are so messed up. They cannot concentrate. I have met plenty of unemployed or homeless people and one thing I noticed is that they cannot mentally concentrate on a task...

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jillybodob
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One thing is for sure, if you live in America and produce things it's illegal. If you live South of the border, and produce it's legal. How may dumbf**ks here actually believe Mexico is our friend and our president should coddle them?



Quote from ultrabrat007:
That is one reason they are so messed up. They cannot concentrate. I have met plenty of unemployed or homeless people and one thing I noticed is that they cannot mentally concentrate on a task...


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stellar007
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I just watched "The day after tomorrow" again last night and afterwards I thought to myself, was that an hour and a half long commercial for liberal global warming?

You know, "warming" people up for the world wide Obama Foundation to pocket endless amounts of cash for a phony cause... *cough Clinton Foundation cough*

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annamally
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" I cannot ignore that crime would be more rampid without welfare assistance. Desparate starving people will commit criminal acts to survive.. "

Long before they go out and get a job ..... God forbid !



[Edited 5/8/2017 11:56:45 PM ]

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stellar007
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I agree... Pretty sad...

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jillybodob
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Stalin starved, what 30 million people, to prove a point? Mao killed your mother a father for having sex? Che, he just killed you to kill you. What do all have in common? Gov't domination over your life.

With freedom comes great responsibility. It's not easy.

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jillybodob
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I might argue that crime is more rampant with elevated levels of social welfare. When kids don't think they have to stay in school and don't study hard, do drugs, and think that being a hoodrat is a good thing, then claiming welfare...is not a good attitude to have. Who teaches this victim fatalism? Hollywood of course, just turn on the TV. It's certainly not coming from your grandma. Or is it now?

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stellar007
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I never said make welfare extravagant like Obama did... You know, 99 weeks of unemployment and the sky is the limit.

Just enough to get by, but then again... People will still abuse that too...

It's one of them things...

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louie6332
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Jilly, you say: “People forget that opium dens were legal in the US back in the early 1900's. Not saying it was a good thing, but it's true."

Yes, actually, in the beginning coca-cola contained cocaine (from coco leaves), hence the name “coca”, but the Federal Government eventually stopped them from putting coca in the drink. (We found early Coca Cola stock owned by my grandfather in his stuff after he and my grandmother had died. Wonder if the stock is still good. If it is, it could be worth a fortune.)

Robot, you say; “Organic People pay a premium for produce grown the way it was 150 years ago. Fields covered in un sterilized Cow Crap running the risk of Listeria.”

Yes, manure (cow and chicken) makes very good fertilizer. And all you have to do is plow it under. No problem. And plants like it. Makes them grow like crazy. And if you are growing hydroponically, you soak the manure in water and use the liquid, which is called manure tea, as the liquid fertilizer. Plants like it, grow like crazy. And don’t knock it. After the Third World War, we will return to growing plants this way. Human waste is typically not used as fertilizer because of fear it may contain bacteria harmful to humans. But cow and chicken manure works good with no problems.

Louie

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longbobby
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Quote from shawnee_b:
I may get some organic milk in a store for 1 coffee and tea in the am. Nothing else, cept maybe a few pops for guests don't know any better and can't do without.

I distill my water and drink quite a bit of it. More people should do water, they may learn to like it. So many friends are 12pk a day sugar soda drinkers
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I drink the minimum RDA for milk. At least 2 cups a day. There's a method to my madness though.

I've always been lactose intolerant. So when I drink milk I cut a few milk farts.

Thing is? As I get older I'm more prone to heartburn (unless of course I get off my lazy *zz and walk my dogs or something).

My habit has always been to drink my pint of milk late at night. Helps me sleep as it does million of other Americans.

And when I go to bed is when heartburn will hit if and/or when it is building up.

But, ... AHA ... drinking my milk and cutting a few milk farts releases all the gas I may or may not have.

And so I sleep like a baby ... that has had his milk.

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shawnee_b
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Nothing wrong with milk farts. I don;t think I have lactose intolerance but milk in tea or coffee is all. Had a nuc med test recently, gall bladder working 60%, Get injected, 1 hr pictures, Drink milk sit 1/2 hr then check, Got rid of milk just fine. Weird test. Hate that shit but was necessary cause of GB pain. Not to mention 4 broken ribs 2 weeks ago!

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longbobby
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Quote from shawnee_b:
Nothing wrong with milk farts. I don;t think I have lactose intolerance but milk in tea or coffee is all. Had a nuc med test recently, gall bladder working 60%, Get injected, 1 hr pictures, Drink milk sit 1/2 hr then check, Got rid of milk just fine. Weird test. Hate that shit but was necessary cause of GB pain. Not to mention 4 broken ribs 2 weeks ago!
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Ouch. Damn shawn. Sh*t happening to you, huh?

I keep a little soda pop around. Generic cola and lemon lime soda. Ladies I invite for drinks like bourbon and coke and bourbon and seven. That kind of thing. They like margarita's too. So, I gotta keep lime juice on hand too. And/or some of that margarita mix with HFCS in it.

I've been reading the posts in this thread. "I don't drink this ... I don't drink that".

loco and his "fruit juice is fattening". LMAO

Like everybody is an Essene monk like John the Baptist or something.

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condor_0000
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Quote from jillybodob:
Stalin starved, what 30 million people, to prove a point?


The "point" why Stalin killed millions of people was in the RIGHT-WING overthrow of socialism.

As I've pointed out countless times, those infamous mass graves of Stalin are filled with communists, not capitalists. The stalinists killed off the left, shut down the socialist movement, propped themselves up as a privileged elite, and then restored capitalism at the earliest convenience as the preferred method of raping the working class and looting the public till.

If the left (i.e., the working-class) was actually a killing machine, there would be a lot of dead CEOs, a lot of dead capitalists, and a lot of dead capitalist politicians littering the streets of America. But instead those right-wingers rape the working class and loot the pubic till with impunity. They have no fear of the workers they are raping.

On the other hand, we know all about the murderous capitalists of the Evil Empire as they lie America into one, murderous, refugee-creating imperialist war after another in search of vast new riches for themselves.

And it's not just the disgusting capitalists of the Evil Empire. It's all capitalists!

--------------------


The Universal Lesson of East Timor
May 9, 2017
by John Pilger
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/09/the-universal-lesson-of-east-timor/

Excerpts:

Filming undercover in East Timor in 1993 I followed a landscape of crosses: great black crosses etched against the sky, crosses on peaks, crosses marching down the hillsides, crosses beside the road. They littered the earth and crowded the eye.

The inscriptions on the crosses revealed the extinction of whole families, wiped out in the space of a year, a month, a day. Village after village stood as memorials.

Virgillo Celestino wrote that his father had survived the Indonesian invasion of East Timor in 1975, but he went on: “In August 1983, Indonesian forces entered our village, Kraras. They looted, burned and massacred, with fighter aircraft overhead. On 27 September 1983, they made my father and my wife dig their own graves and they machine-gunned them. My wife was pregnant.”

The priest of Kraras wrote on the final page: “To the capitalist governors of the world, Timor’s petroleum smells better than Timorese blood and tears. Who will take this truth to the world? … It is evident that Indonesia would never have committed such a crime if it had not received favourable guarantees from [Western] governments.”

As the Indonesian dictator General Suharto was about to invade East Timor (the Portuguese had abandoned their colony), he tipped off the ambassadors of Australia, the United States and Britain. In secret cables subsequently leaked, the Australian ambassador, Richard Woolcott, urged his government to “act in a way which would be designed to minimise the public impact in Australia and show private understanding to Indonesia.” He alluded to the beckoning spoils of oil and gas in the Timor Sea that separated the island from northern Australia.

There was no word of concern for the Timorese.

In 1993, the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Australian Parliament estimated that “at least 200,000” East Timorese, a third of the population, had perished under Suharto.

Australia was the only western country formally to recognise Indonesia’s genocidal conquest. The murderous Indonesian special forces known as Kopassus were trained by Australian special forces at a base near Perth. The prize in resources, said Foreign Minister Gareth Evans, was worth “zillions” of dollars.

In my 1994 film, Death of a Nation: the Timor Conspiracy, a gloating Evans is filmed lifting a champagne glass as he and Ali Alatas, Suharto’s foreign minister, fly over the Timor Sea, having signed a piratical treaty that divided the oil and gas riches of the Timor Sea.



[Edited 5/10/2017 12:02:50 AM ]

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jillybodob
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This is communism Condor. The Gov't making you their b*tch.

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jillybodob
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you want to make and/or eat cinnabuns every morning. I don't give a shit unless you make it my problem. You want to make babies, I don't give a shit. You ask me to pay for your shit, I give a shit.

5/10/2017 12:21:50 AM America Has The Fattest Poor People In The World, Why? | Page 3  
condor_0000
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Quote from jillybodob:
This is communism Condor. The Gov't making you their b*tch.


There's a very good reason why capitalists are eager to confuse the working-class and point to the ugly, murderous, right-wing counter-revolution AGAINST socialism/communism as being communism.

"Almost all of the world is capitalist and almost all of the world's people are poor." -- Michael Parenti

5/10/2017 12:23:59 AM America Has The Fattest Poor People In The World, Why? | Page 3  
condor_0000
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Quote from jillybodob:
you want to make and/or eat cinnabuns every morning. I don't give a shit unless you make it my problem. You want to make babies, I don't give a shit. You ask me to pay for your shit, I give a shit.


You don't seem to mind paying trillions of dollars for the socialism of trillions of dollars to bail capitalists out of their bad investments. You don't seem to mind paying trillions of dollars in socialism for the imperialist wars of capitalism. You don't seem to mind paying hundreds of billions of dollars building capitalists stadiums. You don't seem to mind paying hundreds of billions of dollars providing subsidies to capitalist corporations

5/10/2017 12:28:35 AM America Has The Fattest Poor People In The World, Why? | Page 3  

jillybodob
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condor, you are very wrong. The only way such could be true is through Gov't. The socialism/communism you promote. The history of the world is very clear, socialism/communism always results in the pain and suffering of the people.

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louie6332
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Condor, you are off topic, this thread is about why fat people are fat. You are constantly promoting communism and socialism, and constantly calling left right and right left, thinking that Americans are so stupid that they will switch sides simply because you do not know your right from your left. And you are constantly labeling capitalism as the only evil. Your manta is: Communism is good, capitalism is evil.

Two things: first, there are two kinds of capitalism: there is state capitalism and then there is private capitalism. But you never differentiate between the two. God commands men on Earth not to covet another man’s wife and another man’s goods. Does that sound to you like God is forbidding private capitalism here? Capitalism, in and of itself is neither good nor evil, but like everything else, it can be used for good or for evil. Oh, I know, I know, being a Godless Marxist, you don’t believe in God and have no use for God.

Second, Communism is not good, as you would have us all believe, it is evil. If you visit any Communist nation today, you will see that they are Hell holes, and that its citizens do not fare well. And concerning socialism, it does not work on Earth. Father Paul of Moll, a Benedictine priest who performed all manner of miracles, including raising the dead, and who have the gift of unusual knowledge, all of which came directly from God, said that Socialism was a passing fad on Earth. By contrast, nations in which private capitalism is respected, you know, free enterprise systems, work well. That is a large part of why America was once such a great nation. Liberals like yourself are trying to turn it into a socialist Hell hole, but the election of Donald Trump is throwing a monkey wrench into that plan.

Louie



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nycman530
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Many people see red meat as a danger, but this is not necessarily so. Lean cuts of grass-fed beef with no antibiotics or hormones is what I always buy. Even in restaurants I will have grass fed burgers the vast majority of the time. Sure it's more expensive, but why put a price tag on your health?

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sdgncalix3
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Because it has become acceptable to be a big fat slob here in America

YOu go to the grocery store and see these large people driving around the motorized scooters while they are loading up on the diet coke and the haggen daas

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nycman530
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
Because it has become acceptable to be a big fat slob here in America

YOu go to the grocery store and see these large people driving around the motorized scooters while they are loading up on the diet coke and the haggen daas



And the diet soda is even worse for people as regular soda which is bad enough. There has been research conducted which shows that drinking diet soda won’t help people to fight fat.
And even worse than that, the chemicals in diet soda can lead to all sorts of serious health problems, from diabetes, to high blood pressure, to kidney problems and more. It turns out that there are a ton of scary dangers of diet soda.

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sdgncalix3
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Pretty much.

IF and when you go into a fast food place, you dont see a lot of happy people.

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Quote from nycman530:
And the diet soda is even worse for people as regular soda which is bad enough. There has been research conducted which shows that drinking diet soda won’t help people to fight fat.
And even worse than that, the chemicals in diet soda can lead to all sorts of serious health problems, from diabetes, to high blood pressure, to kidney problems and more. It turns out that there are a ton of scary dangers of diet soda.


Soda with sugar is not as bad for you as diet soda. And now days, they rarely use sugar in soda. It's high fructose corn syrup, which is one of the worst things you can put in your body.

Look in the soda isle. How many do you see made with sugar?

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sdgncalix3
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Sugar is still bad for you

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lobo_corazon
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Quote from nycman530:
And the diet soda is even worse for people as regular soda which is bad enough. There has been research conducted which shows that drinking diet soda won’t help people to fight fat.
And even worse than that, the chemicals in diet soda can lead to all sorts of serious health problems, from diabetes, to high blood pressure, to kidney problems and more. It turns out that there are a ton of scary dangers of diet soda.

Those "bad chemicals" are also in the sugary pop. Then they pour in a ridiculous amount of refined sugar (poison) and high-fructose corn syrup (poison).

If you aren't aware that ingesting massive amounts of sugar is the number one thing you can do to give yourself diabetes, that's a very serious hole in your knowledge of nutrition. Did you not have at least a couple of days of this stuff in High School gym class?

The reason people try diet soda and then find themselves craving sugar is you are addicted to sugar! Sugar is a powerfully addictive substance, much like nicotine. When you try to break your habit, the DTs are going to hurt.

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Two things: first, there are two kinds of capitalism: there is state capitalism and then there is private capitalism. But you never differentiate between the two.

No, there is one kind of capitalism. Capitalism is one man leveraging his wealth to lay claim to ownership of another man's work. That is it. Capitalism isn't trade, or owning your house, or a family farmer being paid for his milk. And it has nothing to do with forms of government (although in the US the capitalists do control the government.)

God commands men on Earth not to covet another man’s wife and another man’s goods. Does that sound to you like God is forbidding private capitalism here? Capitalism, in and of itself is neither good nor evil, but like everything else, it can be used for good or for evil. Oh, I know, I know, being a Godless Marxist, you don’t believe in God and have no use for God.

I see. So you believe wives are property. How very "Handmaid's Tale" of you!

Second, Communism is not good, as you would have us all believe, it is evil. If you visit any Communist nation today, you will see that they are Hell holes, and that its citizens do not fare well. And concerning socialism, it does not work on Earth. Father Paul of Moll, a Benedictine priest who performed all manner of miracles, including raising the dead, and who have the gift of unusual knowledge, all of which came directly from God, said that Socialism was a passing fad on Earth. By contrast, nations in which private capitalism is respected, you know, free enterprise systems, work well. That is a large part of why America was once such a great nation. Liberals like yourself are trying to turn it into a socialist Hell hole, but the election of Donald Trump is throwing a monkey wrench into that plan.

What nations are you talking about here exactly? The US is the most right-wing, capitalist country in the developed world. Now for sure it works great for the capitalists, but I thought people like you were all in a fuss that the country is falling apart?

What country do you believe is a beacon of capitalist success? Japan? Massive welfare state. Germany? Bastion of super-strong trade unions. Australia? Switzerland? Canada? Way more socialist than the US. China? Still a communist command economy.

I'm really interested to hear if you can express any coherent thought process on this.



[Edited 5/10/2017 12:50:28 PM ]

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nycman530
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
Those "bad chemicals" are also in the sugary pop. Then they pour in a ridiculous amount of refined sugar (poison) and high-fructose corn syrup (poison).

If you aren't aware that ingesting massive amounts of sugar is the number one thing you can do to give yourself diabetes, that's a very serious hole in your knowledge of nutrition. Did you not have at least a couple of days of this stuff in High School gym class?

The reason people try diet soda and then find themselves craving sugar is you are addicted to sugar! Sugar is a powerfully addictive substance, much like nicotine. When you try to break your habit, the DTs are going to hurt.


I'm not implying excess sugar is not a red flag, just saying that the additives in diet soda are extremely dangerous.

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Quote from nycman530:
And the diet soda is even worse for people as regular soda which is bad enough. There has been research conducted which shows that drinking diet soda won’t help people to fight fat.
And even worse than that, the chemicals in diet soda can lead to all sorts of serious health problems, from diabetes, to high blood pressure, to kidney problems and more. It turns out that there are a ton of scary dangers of diet soda.


Yep, aspartame ... invented by a corporation James Rumsfeld owns, is a neurotoxin that never should have been approved for public consumption.

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Lobo, you say: “No, there is one kind of capitalism. Capitalism is one man leveraging his wealth to lay claim to ownership of another man's work. That is it. Capitalism isn't trade, or owning your house, or a family farmer being paid for his milk. And it has nothing to do with forms of government (although in the US the capitalists do control the government.)”

I see, Lobo, workers cannot work for pay without being accused of having his work stolen from them. What??? And home owners cannot hire someone to work for them (fixing the roof or whatever) without being accused of stealing their work? Get real. If you pay a man his asking price for his labor, you are not stealing from him.

Lobo, in the past, you have defined Capitalism “as rule by money”. Yes, I remember you saying that. Money, capital, and government exist, and, whether you like it or not, are necessary necessities. They can be used for good or for evil, but they are necessities. And money and capital can be owned either by the state or by private citizens. A man who owns his house and property owns capital, private capital. And a man who owns a private business owns capital. (You remind me of Obama saying to a private business owner: “You didn’t build that, the Government built that”.) Lobo, you are detached from reality. You don’t like Capital or money, but it exists, get over it.

But I say again, anything, including money can be used for good or for evil. Money is needed as a means of transfer, and Capital. You are not going to do away with them. They exist, get over it.

Now Lobo, get back on topic. Stop trying to hijack this thread.

Louie

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Going to McDonald's for a salad is like going to a prostitute for a hug!