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5/20/2017 11:05:31 PM Let's All Change The Bible  

bigd9832
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For some strange reason, there are people here who think they can improve on God's Word and His plans. First, they support the KJV, probably one of the poorest translation on the market today. But that doesn't satisfy them. They want to further humiliate God by improving on His Word and plans.

To this end, men have made up the word "hell" and added it to the Scriptures. Now they can proudly proclaim God's "punishment" of damnation throughout all of "eternity."

Did they add the word "eternity"? Not really. They changed the definition of the word 'olam/aion' from that of an "age" to "forever." In Ancient Greek, "eternity" is only expressed in the negative. "Endless" might be an example. Or "world without end."

AV Eph 3:21 Unto him [be] glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

Unfortunately this is just another mistranslation from the bisexual king's English version. The actual translation would read...

CLV Eph 3:21 to Him be glory in the ecclesia and in Christ Jesus for all the generations of the eon of the eons! Amen!

So the phrase "world without end" is not in the Scriptures.

For the reasons why 'olam/aion' cannot be "eternal"

See...

The "Eternal" Perspective Disproven
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Forever? It Makes No Sense
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Time in the Scriptures
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Olam & Aion, Age or Eternal?
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What is Time?
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OMG - What a Mess!
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Aion/Olam can not be 'Eternal'
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Forever or an Age?
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Some errors in the KJV
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Olam/Aion in Review
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Discordant Views Of "Eon" And "Eonian"
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The Importance of an Aion/Olam
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Duration - the Meaning of Aion/Olam
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How Many "Eternities" Are There?
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Forever? It Makes No Sense
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The(?) Shall the End Come? Strange.
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But mankind is not stupid. They have covered their bases. They have manipulated enough Scripture to make this "hell" plausible.



In the graphic, you can see the KJV rendering up at the top labeled "AV" which stands for Authorized Version. Authorized by King James, that is.

So I can prove that one instance of the word "judging" is changed to "damnation." But what if I could show that 7 verses the word "judging" was changed to "damnation" and 8 were changed to "condemnation"?

One instance might be a mistake. But 15 might make a conspiracy.

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5/20/2017 11:13:47 PM Let's All Change The Bible  

bigd9832
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The OT (olam)...

¨ Jonah was in the fish forever [olam]. But only until he left three days later (Jon. 1:17; 2:6).

¨ Sodom’s fiery judgment is eternal [olam]. But only until God returns them to their former state (Ez. 16:53-55; Ju. 7).

¨ A Moabite is forbidden to enter the Lord’s congregation forever [olam]. But only until the 10th generation. (De. 23:3).

¨ Hills are everlasting [olam]. But only until made low and the earth is burned up (Ge. 49:26; De. 33:15; Is. 40:4; 2Pe. 3:10).

¨ Mountains are everlasting [olam]. But only until they are scattered (Hab. 3:6).

¨ A slave serves his master forever [olam]. But only until death ends his servitude (Ex. 21:6).

¨ The Mosaic covenant is everlasting [olam]. But only until it vanishes away (Le. 24:8; He. 8:7-13).

¨ The Aaronic priesthood is everlasting [olam]. But only until the likeness of Melchizedek arises (Ex. 40:15; Nu. 25:13; He. 7:14-22).

¨ These “stones” are to be a memorial forever [olam]. Where are they now (Jos. 4:7)?

¨ The leprosy of Naaman shall cling forever [olam]. But only until his death, of course (2K. 5:27).

¨ God dwells in Solomon’s temple forever [olam]. But only until it is destroyed (2Ch. 7:16; 1K 8:13; 9:3).

¨ Animal sacrifices were to be offered forever [olam]. But only until ended by the work of Christ (2Ch. 2:4; He. 7:11-10:18).

¨ Circumcision was an everlasting [olam] covenant. But only until the new covenant (Ge. 17:9-13; 1Co. 7:19; Ga. 5:6).

¨ Israel’s judgment lasts forever [olam]. But only until the Spirit is poured out and God restores it (Is. 32:13-15).



And the NT (aion)

¨ What will be the sign…of the end of the eternity (Mt. 24:3)?

¨ I am with you…to the end of the eternity (Mt. 28:20).

¨ The sons of this eternity are more shrewd (Lu. 16:8).

¨ The sons of this eternity marry (Lu. 20:34).

¨ Worthy to attain that eternity (Lu. 20:35).

¨ Since the eternity began (Jn. 9:32; Ac. 3:21).

¨ Conformed to this eternity (Ro. 12:2).

¨ Mystery kept secret since the eternity began but now made manifest (Ro. 16:25-26).

¨ Where is the disputer of this eternity (1Co. 1:20)?

¨ Wisdom of this eternity, nor of the rulers of this eternity…ordained before the eternities…which none of the rulers of this eternity… (1Co. 2:6-8)

¨ Wise in this eternity (1Co. 3:18).

¨ Upon whom the ends of the eternities have come.
(1Co. 10:11)

¨ God of this eternity has blinded (2Co. 4:4).

¨ Deliver us from this present evil eternity (Ga. 1:4).

¨ Not only in this eternity but also in that which is to come (Ep. 1:21).

¨ Walked according to the eternity of this world (Ep. 2:2).

¨ In the eternities to come (Ep. 2:7).

¨ From the beginnings of the eternities (Ep. 3:9).

¨ Hidden from eternities…but now…revealed (Col. 1:26).

¨ Loved this present eternity (2Ti. 4:10).

¨ Receive him for eternity (Ph.1:15). Does this mean forever or only until Onesimus dies?

¨ Powers of the eternity to come (He. 6:5).

¨ At the end of the eternities (He. 9:26).

¨ We understand the eternities have been prepared by a saying of God (He. 11:3).

How can we say…

¨ “Before eternity” or “eternity began”? Eternity has no beginning (Jn. 9:32; Ac. 3:21; 1Co. 2:7; Ep. 3:9).

¨ “Present eternity,” “eternity to come,” and “end of eternity?” Eternity transcends time. Only God is eternal (Mt. 24:3; 28:20; 1Co. 10:11; 2Ti. 4:10; He. 6:5; 9:26).

¨ “This eternity,” “that eternity,” or “eternities”? There is only one eternity (Lu. 16:8; 20:34-35; Ro. 12:2; 1Co. 1:20; 2:6-8; 3:18; 10:11; 2Co. 4:4; Ga. 1:4; Ep. 1:21; 2:2, 7; 3:9; Col. 1:26; 2Ti. 4:10; He. 11:3).

¨ “Eternal secret” if the secret is revealed? (Ro. 16:25-26; Col. 1:26). It is no longer a “secret” at that point.

¨ Onesimus will be Philemon’s slave for eternity? Is he still his slave (Phil. 1:15)?

5/20/2017 11:15:31 PM Let's All Change The Bible  

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5/20/2017 11:17:51 PM Let's All Change The Bible  

bigd9832
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1. The servant who's ear was bored with an awl and became a servant "Forever"? How long did he live? Forever?

AV Ex 21:6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

CLV Ex 21:6 then his lord will bring him close to the elohim, and bring him close to the door or to the jamb, and his lord will bore his ear with an awl; and he will serve him for the eon.


2. And again...

AV Dt 15:17 Then thou shalt take an aul, and thrust [it] through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise.

CLV Dt 15:17 Then you take an awl and put it through his ear and into the door, and he will come to be your eonian servant; and so you shall do to your maidservant too.


3. A similar instance where "all thy days" means 'forever'?

AV Dt 23:6 Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever.

CLV Dt 23:6 You shall neither inquire after their welfare nor their good all your days for the eon.


4. And when Jehovah speaks of the leviathan, can Job tame him 'forever'?

AV Jb 41:4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?

CLV Jb 41:4 Would he contract a covenant with you That you may take him as a servant for the eon?


5. Solomon's reign as king was 40 years...

AV 1Ch 22:10 He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I [will be] his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for ever.

CLV 1Ch 22:10 he does build a house to My name, and he is to Me for a son, and I [am] to him for a father, and I have established the throne of his kingdom over Israel unto the eon.


6. The temple existed for how long?

AV 1Ki 8:13 I have surely built thee an house to dwell in, a settled place for thee to abide in for ever.

CLV 1Ki 8:13 I have surely built a house of habitation for You; a fixed place for Your abiding to the eons.'

AV 1Ki 9:3 And the LORD said unto him, I have heard thy prayer and thy supplication, that thou hast made before me: I have hallowed this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

CLV 1Ki 9:3 and Yahweh said unto him, `I have heard your prayer and your supplication with which you have made supplication before Me; I have hallowed this house that you have built to put My name there--unto the eon, and Mine eyes and My heart have been there all the days.


7. The Ammonite and the Moabite are not allowed into the congregation 'forever'?

AV Ne 13:1 On that day they read in the book of Moses in the audience of the people; and therein was found written, that the Ammonite and the Moabite should not come into the congregation of God for ever;

CLV Ne 13:1 On that day there was read in the book of Moses, in the ears of the people, and it has been found written in it that an Ammonite and Moabite does not come into the assembly of Elohim--unto the eon,


8. The 'forever' in the above verse is defined as the lifetime of ten generations. Not a very long 'forever'.

AV Dt 23:3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:
4 .Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.
5. Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee, because the LORD thy God loved thee.

CLV Dt 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite shall come into the assembly of Yahweh. Even the tenth generation from them shall not come into the assembly of Yahweh for the eon,
4. on the score that they did not succor you with bread and with water along the main road when you came forth from Egypt and that they hired against you Balaam son of Beor, from Pethor, Aram-naharayim, to maledict you.
5. But Yahweh your Elohim would not hearken to Balaam. And Yahweh your Elohim turned the malediction into a blessing for you, for Yahweh your Elohim loves you.



Just a few examples. I have many more.

5/26/2017 9:17:27 AM Let's All Change The Bible  

clarity101
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5/26/2017 2:47:22 PM Let's All Change The Bible  

clarity101
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the Bible teaches us to judge righteous, with justice.
There are two types of judgements : righteousness judgement and hypocritical judgement. I am going to destroy your comfortable ignorance with justice, here are the words whick you didn't knew they exist since most of you don't read their scriptures or skip important quotes or as in this case they took the texts ccompletely out of context.

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” John 7:24

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged by no man. 1 Chorinteans 2:15

For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do not ye judge those who are within? 1 chorinteans 15:12

Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? And if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 1 chorinteans 6:2

I speak to shame you! Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, no, not one, who shall be able to judge between his brethren? 1 chorinteans 6:5

This witness is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith - Tit 1:13

And have no fellowship with the
unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 5:11