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5/24/2017 12:42:18 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  

sillylaugher61
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I have seen some pretty bad calls lately in all sports. I am sure that home plate umps also get fooled by todays pitchers stuff.
In the NHL, the officials don't seem to know what the rules of the game at times.
That is pretty much the same in the NFL.

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5/24/2017 1:02:56 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  
tommy8345
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Quote from sillylaugher61:
I have seen some pretty bad calls lately in all sports. I am sure that home plate umps also get fooled by todays pitchers stuff.
In the NHL, the officials don't seem to know what the rules of the game at times.
That is pretty much the same in the NFL.


Silly, My answer is NO! Umpires/referees are graded by the work they do and if they continue to do their job properly I don't think age should be a factor.

If your question applied to players Tom Brady would have to retire and he continues to play like a youngster at a very high level.

5/24/2017 3:22:21 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  

sillylaugher61
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Quote from tommy8345:
Silly, My answer is NO! Umpires/referees are graded by the work they do and if they continue to do their job properly I don't think age should be a factor.

If your question applied to players Tom Brady would have to retire and he continues to play like a youngster at a very high level.


Today is the 6th anniversary of the blown safe call in the 19th inning of a Pirate at Braves game. The home plate ump called the Braves runner safe at home even though he was tagged out some 4 feet before reaching home plate!

5/24/2017 9:43:15 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  

sorpstar
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Being a former HS and college umpire what umps in many calls are guilty of is anticipating their calls...out of position making their calls being too lazy, tired or out of shape. I have seen a call at first base costing a WS to Cards and a perfect game too..watch umps..why do they make calls behind the play at HP and at 22nd base because like I say they're anticipating calls and are slower to react to actual play..

My brother 3 inches shorter then me went to umpiring school and want umps taller then 5-11 and was cut twice.
.my brother said because I was taller I coulda had the chance but couldn't leave work but I was smart enough to stop umpiring at age 53..Why? Because I wanted to join this dating site...lol...kidding

5/25/2017 8:48:48 AM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  

sillylaugher61
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everyone remembers the call that Jim Joyce made at 1st base.
But the next day, he had the guts to show some emotion after costing the pitcher a
no hitter.

5/25/2017 12:10:21 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  
tommy8345
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Quote from sorpstar:
Being a former HS and college umpire what umps in many calls are guilty of is anticipating their calls...out of position making their calls being too lazy, tired or out of shape. I have seen a call at first base costing a WS to Cards and a perfect game too..watch umps..why do they make calls behind the play at HP and at 22nd base because like I say they're anticipating calls and are slower to react to actual play..

My brother 3 inches shorter then me went to umpiring school and want umps taller then 5-11 and was cut twice.
.my brother said because I was taller I coulda had the chance but couldn't leave work but I was smart enough to stop umpiring at age 53..Why? Because I wanted to join this dating site...lol...kidding


Sorp, Great analysis of umpiring and especially with umpires being out of position in many cases. While playing the game professionally one of my greatest assets was stealing bases. In many cases an umpire would position himself in MY BASE PATH and in a few cases the umpire would end up with sore ribs from my shoulder. I'm not going to say if this was intentional or not on my part since you already know.

I won't even get into the phantom double play where the shortstop or second baseman who is turning the double play only has to be in the zip code of second base missing the base by a mile to avoid a hard sliding runner who might end his career.

5/25/2017 4:19:05 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  

crimsontater
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this ia a really good question. i'm thinking no, for the most part. hows that for a fence rider

as mentioned earlier, as long as the ref/ump is still physically able and still fair, then yeah, let him keep going. if not, then he has to go.

one of my pet peeves is home court advantage. that automatically means cheating refs. it always amazes me how a ref can be consistently bad yet keep his job.

5/25/2017 9:34:10 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  

bsjr76
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As long as their is an "Umpires Union",that would be a tough push.

5/26/2017 12:37:07 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  
tommy8345
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Quote from crimsontater:
this ia a really good question. i'm thinking no, for the most part. hows that for a fence rider

as mentioned earlier, as long as the ref/ump is still physically able and still fair, then yeah, let him keep going. if not, then he has to go.

one of my pet peeves is home court advantage. that automatically means cheating refs. it always amazes me how a ref can be consistently bad yet keep his job.


Tater, Can you give us any names of any refs who are consistently bad who keep their jobs because I don't know any?

Since college football is your favorite sport I can tell you this:

A good friend of mine is a back judge official in the ACC and he is constantly under the microscope by league officials on the quality of the job he is doing on Saturday afternoons. If he grades out good for the season he gets a bowl game to officiate at the end of the regular season. If his grades are not so good he is gone for the next season. My friend has been doing this for around 20 years and I think he has done about 10 bowl games so I guess the ACC continues to be satisfied with him.

5/29/2017 6:04:58 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  

sillylaugher61
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tommy do you agree that umps get fooled by todays curve balls?

5/30/2017 12:05:00 PM Should there be a mandatory retirement age for umpires/referees?  
tommy8345
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Quote from sillylaugher61:
tommy do you agree that umps get fooled by todays curve balls?


Silly, Not really . . . I just think many umps are out of position behind the plate, at the bases, and anticipating calls as Sorp stated.