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5/29/2017 6:50:38 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  
citylights01
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This is hilarious. They're even turning on fox.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/26/big-time-backlash-when-all-polling-on-donald-trump-is-dismissed-as-fake.html

Big-time backlash: When all polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake

By Howard Kurtz Published May 26, 2017 Fox News
A Fox News poll came out the other night, and I tweeted some of the findings about President Trump.

No analysis, no commentary. Just a few numbers.

“Trump approval at 40%, down from 45% last month. 53% say his agenda is coming apart; 44% say he's shaking up Washington.”

And: “68% approve of DOJ naming a special counsel, 29% disapprove.”

Well, you’d have thought I had called for the president’s impeachment.

I practically got buried under an avalanche of angry tweets.

Most of them didn’t seem to want to engage in an actual discussion. They just attacked me, Fox, and polling in general:

“The way Fox is headed. This poll is wrong. I talk to people from all over the US everyday. Trump is still tops. No one unhappy. All cool.”

“BS polls again. Trying to manipulate population.”

“You just don't get it.. We don't believe any b.s. polls you media types hail don't care don't believe them move on.”

“Who the hell did you poll???”

“100% of me thinks Fox is joining the MSM. Fake news.”

“Your polls are a bunch of crap. Never polled us.”

“NO ONE CARES abt the dumb polls-they were wrong calling election- case closed!”

“Stick it up your liberal [blank], Howie!”

You gotta love social media.

Now far be it from me to defend all polls. Sometimes they’re flawed, or just wrong. And the media are overly addicted to them.

You could also argue that Trump has faced consistently negative media coverage, especially over the Russia investigation, and that is depressing his numbers.

But the barrage from Trump supporters didn’t have much to do with that.

It was about simply dismissing news organizations, including Fox, and their polling as mere fiction.

Many are so persuaded that the media establishment has it in for Trump that they don’t want to hear contrary information. They are tuning it out.

I know this because of the comments I get if I analyze anything from, say, the New York Times or Washington Post, even if the stories turn out to be true. And Fox News is no longer immune to these complaints.

The Fox poll, which surveyed more than 1,000 people with a 3-point margin of error, was hardly an outlier. In the last two days, Gallup has Trump’s job approval at 39 percent, Quinnipiac at 37, Ecoomist at 40 and Reuters at 37. The exception is Rasmussen, which puts Trump at 48 percent.

The everyone-I-talk-to argument betrays a lack of understanding of how scientific polling works.

For the record, the final Fox poll before Election Day gave Hillary Clinton a 4-point lead, overstating her margin, but keep in mind that she won the popular vote. Trump is president because he won key Electoral College battlegrounds.

The troubling thing here is that we no longer agree on a common set of facts. Conservatives and liberals are increasingly in their own silos, turning to their own opinionated media sources and constructing their Facebook and Twitter feeds the same way.

If everything is fake news, then the role of news in fostering intelligent debate is decimated.

And I don’t need a poll to be sure of that.


Howard Kurtz is a Fox News analyst and the host of "MediaBuzz" (Sundays 11 a.m.). He is the author of five books and is based in Washington. Follow him at @HowardKurtz. Click here for more information on Howard Kurtz.

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5/29/2017 9:00:01 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

jitssbaby617
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I find it weird the only productive president any of us have ever had is looked upon unfavorably by democrat areas.. its like you dems hate success.

i know democrats have destroyed the education in most neighborhoods, but i didn't think it was this bad.

5/29/2017 9:41:46 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

w6o6l6f_1
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City needs some medication to help with her bipolar.

5/29/2017 9:43:35 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

jitssbaby617
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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
City needs some medication to help with her bipolar.


5/29/2017 9:45:39 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

dwwcat
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Howard Kurz almost went into hiding to another country after the election when he basically said Hillary had it no question, not even close. That Howard?

5/29/2017 9:55:29 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

jitssbaby617
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Quote from dwwcat:
Howard Kurz almost went into hiding to another country after the election when he basically said Hillary had it no question, not even close. That Howard?


5/29/2017 10:05:36 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

lobo_corazon
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Step aside elephant, here's the new mascot for the Republican Party:



5/29/2017 10:11:13 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

1hotone4u
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most polls are fake as the pollsters oversample one side for a predetermined outcome.


m a g a

5/29/2017 10:13:41 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

viper1e
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
Step aside elephant, here's the new mascot for the Republican Party:



You can't help but wonder, if they'll refuse to leave office after they've been voted out.

5/29/2017 10:17:02 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

jitssbaby617
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if city lights thinks the polls are accurate honestly she needs to be in a straitjacket lol

5/29/2017 10:55:59 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

w6o6l6f_1
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Much like what liberals believe, is a myth.
Searching for food looks like hiding from a distance when ostriche hunting.

http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/explore/nature/animal-myths-busted/#ostrich-closeup.jpg

5/29/2017 11:00:58 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

progrocknic
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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
Much like what liberals believe, is a myth.
Searching for food looks like hiding from a distance when ostriche hunting.

http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/explore/nature/animal-myths-busted/#ostrich-closeup.jpg


So wait a minute. You honestly believe that liberals specifically, think an ostrich buries it's head to avoid reality?

5/29/2017 11:02:09 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  
beanhammer
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Quote from viper1e:
You can't help but wonder, if they'll refuse to leave office after they've been voted out.


The irony

5/29/2017 11:15:38 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

w6o6l6f_1
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Quote from progrocknic:
So wait a minute. You honestly believe that liberals specifically, think an ostrich buries it's head to avoid reality?

You just made my point.

Ostriches don't burry their heads in sand.

5/29/2017 11:18:14 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

progrocknic
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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
You just made my point.

Ostriches don't burry their heads in sand.


Yeah, no kidding, burry isn't a verb.

5/29/2017 2:27:48 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

lobo_corazon
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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
You just made my point.

Ostriches don't burry their heads in sand.

Republicans on the other hand, certainly do (futilely try oh so hard to hide from the truth) - Like I said.




[Edited 5/29/2017 2:28:35 PM ]

5/29/2017 2:37:55 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

fishnthec
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The only thing that has been proven, is if you leave out the facts about Russian interference in our elections....

.... or overlook the entity of the endless Fake News sites and the sharing of such Fake News stories and false accusations on Facebook in the millions....

....or the interference of an FBI director coming out in the last days of a presidential election telling everyone one of the candidates used "Bad Judgement"...

Polls do not mean jack shit anymore!

That's all that has been proven about polls so far!



[Edited 5/29/2017 2:40:11 PM ]

5/29/2017 2:47:47 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

fishnthec
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You Republicans go to a lot of trouble to cheat and lie your way to victory to win elections.

As if Gerrymandering and Voter's Suppression was not already enough-

Or the fact that the Popular vote doesn't count.

Or the Campaign smearing and swift boat attacks based on Fake News- is not enough!

Now you literally have to get in bed with the Russians and use their help to win!

You guys better be happy with your win and just STFU!

Before you wake the sleeping giant!

5/29/2017 3:03:30 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

scarredandtatto
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Quote from citylights01:

Most of them didn’t seem to want to engage in an actual discussion. They just attacked me, .


HUH! That sounds like the shit slingin monkeys on DH.

5/30/2017 11:11:15 AM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

pento4
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Quote from 1hotone4u:
most polls are fake as the pollsters oversample one side for a predetermined outcome.


m a g a




yup,,,,didn't all the polls say the kilderbeast would win in a landslide, then she lost 47-3

5/30/2017 12:41:21 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

scarredandtatto
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Eh, polls are polls, what ISN'T oversampled are foreign news channels. They seem to be laughing as they point at the orange tinted buffoon that now shows up on behalf of the US. Mexico is still laughing about that f**king wall, btw.

5/30/2017 1:22:38 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  
drwookie
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Quote from 1hotone4u:
most polls are fake as the pollsters oversample one side for a predetermined outcome.


m a g a


Kurtz got fired for lying, no wonder why you defend him with more lies.

5/30/2017 1:48:25 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

progrocknic
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Quote from pento4:
yup,,,,didn't all the polls say the kilderbeast would win in a landslide, then she lost 47-3


Nope. The polls all had the race pretty tight. People tend to forget about that pesky margin of error.

5/30/2017 1:59:46 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

scarredandtatto
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not to mention that pesky EC victory vs. popular vote.


chrump wasn't the popular voteis what it is though.

5/30/2017 2:41:02 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

starfox22
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Quote from jitssbaby617:
if city lights thinks the polls are accurate honestly she needs to be in a straitjacket lol


No shit. Every poll except one, was handing the skank the election by a landslide. I think I heard the word landslide a hundred times leading up to the last days of the election. So much for polls.

I could give a shit if Trump had 1% favorability in polls, as long as he does what is right for this country. Unlike Obama who always kept an eye on how he would make out at the end of his presidency instead of how the country would make out. At least Trump can't be bought like Clinton and Obama.

5/30/2017 2:53:19 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  
beanhammer
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Quote from fishnthec:
You Republicans go to a lot of trouble to cheat and lie your way to victory to win elections.

As if Gerrymandering and Voter's Suppression was not already enough-

Or the fact that the Popular vote doesn't count.

Or the Campaign smearing and swift boat attacks based on Fake News- is not enough!

Now you literally have to get in bed with the Russians and use their help to win!

You guys better be happy with your win and just STFU!

Before you wake the sleeping giant!

What you going to run hillary again. Or better yet chelsea.

Oh i cannot wait this is going to be so much fun

5/30/2017 2:55:49 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  
beanhammer
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were you aware that millions were being funneled into the charity. No! Well ya i mean no.



[Edited 5/30/2017 2:56:14 PM ]

5/30/2017 3:24:00 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

marcas_d_pasion
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More and more Republicans now think it mr. trump is liability to Republican Party

You can smell it in air, they don't want it him associated with their party.. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger who was verry conservative Governor hates him...he thinks he is idiot. I remember many people here were Arnold Schwarzenegger supporters all the way... are you still Arnold supporters??

5/30/2017 4:19:10 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  
fellowforyou
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Fox News is afraid of Trump polls. They give out that evil eye.

5/30/2017 7:07:32 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

testsignup
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Well, the title here is a bit off. Only polls which show Trump is disliked are dismissed as fake news by his camp. Anything which says someone likes him, is praised as pure Truth.

5/30/2017 7:38:13 PM All polling on Donald Trump is dismissed as fake news  

reginamc
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Quote from starfox22:


I could give a shit if Trump had 1% favorability in polls, as long as he does what is right for this country.



This.