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hippo65
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Cheated.
But I'll take that trophy, since there were no rules against Google it.
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track_empirion
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Wednesday, June 9, 2010
Which weighs more a ton of feathers or a ton of gold?
If you answered gold you need to go think again.
If you answered they weigh the same you also need to think again.
The answer is that the feathers weigh more than the gold. And the fault that this is the answer lies with the United States of America.
Huh???? you cry out!
As you would know the entire world officially uses the metric system except for Myanmar, Liberia and the United States. England is mostly there - but not quite.
If the imperial system was banished into the past by all countries then the "ton" referred to above would be a metric ton (or tonne) and be 1000kg. i.e. feathers and gold would weigh the same.
However because the USA refuses to go, it turns out the world still measures precious metals using the ounce. The Troy ounce in particular.
And yes folks this is why the imperial system needs to be removed from this world, because in the imperial system there are many different types of ounce. A Troy ounce (480 grains) and an avoirdupois ounce (437.5 grains) are the ones in use today in the US. And to make things even more fun, there are 12 oz to the Troy pound and 16 for the avoirdupois pound. Go figure.
So the US insists on sticking to this bizarre system and because of this the rest of the world has to suffer the fact that precious metals are all measured in Troy ounces - throughout the world.
So back to our puzzle. By "ton" what did I mean? Well with gold it has to be the Troy ton. But hang on, more imperial confusion now follows...
We have the short ton and long ton. Which is it?
If we are answering this problem in the US, then we'd use the short ton which is 2000 pounds for both feathers and gold. If we are in Liberia then we'd be using the long ton 2240 pounds. If we are in Australia then the ton of feathers is metric and the gold is a long ton. In all cases the gold is measured in the Troy system.
To actually answer this probem we're going to need to do some conversions. The easiest method is to convert all weights to metric and then compare.
Now a troy ounce is defined as 31.1034768 grams. (Yes that's right it is defined using the metric system. In fact all imperial measurements are defined in metric and have been for nearly a century in many cases.) So with 12 ounces to the Troy pound we have a short ton being 746.483 kg and the long ton being 836.061 kg.
Our avoirdupois ounce is defined as 28.3495231 grams. So therefore with 16 ounces to the pound and either 2000 or 2240 pounds to the ton we have a short ton being 907.184 kg and our long ton being 1016.047 kg.
And finally we have our lovely metric ton (or tonne) being 1000kg.
Looking at the figures you will see that in all combinations of short, long or metric that the Troy ton is smaller than all others.
So no matter which country you are in the ton of gold weighs less than a ton of feathers.
Now when the US finally goes metric, which it eventually will (if not to save the economy billions of dollars but to also save the lives of the thousands of people dying each year because of incorrect dosages caused by incorrect conversions) then the original question as posed would be answered correctly as "they weigh the same". Until then the world is stuck with this abortion of a measuring system. Stuck back in the dark ages.
Negative on gold  feathers is the correct answer
Touché 
I knew all that at some point in my life. lol
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iam_resurrected
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70
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iam_resurrected
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bottom line is 5+2x10=70
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track_empirion
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70 is not correct.
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iam_resurrected
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Congrats Joe! 
The answer is 15. The final equation works out to:
5+1x10 = ?
Order of operations calls for the multiplication to be calculated first. 1x10 = 10. Then the addition is calculated. 5+10 = 15. Hence, 15 is the correct answer.
Ill be back later with more fun for all!
but that is not how it is written nor would any classroom find it acceptable.
bottom line is 5+2x10=70
math goes left to right, not other way around 
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track_empirion
Pineville, NC
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You are wrong. Take a closer look at the number of mugs in the third equation.
Math goes by order of operations. Derp
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iam_resurrected
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that is fine so it is 5+1x10=60
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iam_resurrected
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no, you always read math left to right unless you can reduce 2/10 becomes 1/5
24/8 = 3
22/7 = 3 1/7
Possible 'chatting' detected. You have already posted in this thread recently. Please wait for some other people to reply before posting in this thread again, or wait like an hour or so, whichever comes first. Sorry for the inconvenience
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track_empirion
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Quote from iam_resurrected: that is fine so it is 5+1x10=60
How much longer are you going to display how dumb you are?
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hippo65
Albuquerque, NM
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bottom line is 5+2x10=70
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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10+10+10 = 30
10 + 5 + 5 = 20
5 + 2 + 2 = 9
5 + 1 x 10 = 15
The trick was the multiplication needs to be done first
or put in in brackets
and another thing is with the beers in the picture TWO
are shown
then in the last line only ONE is shown
so it should be 1 for the beer not 2.
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iam_resurrected
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why would I times 10 to the 1 mug before the 5 cheeseburgers. your math is a** backwards.
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track_empirion
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Quote from iam_resurrected:no, you always read math left to right unless you can reduce 2/10 becomes 1/5
24/8 = 3
22/7 = 3 1/7
why would I times 10 to the 1 mug before the 5 cheeseburgers. your math is a** backwards.
I know you can't fix stupid, but I'm going to give it a shot.
In mathematics, the order of operations (or operator precedence) is a collection of rules that reflect conventions about which procedures to perform first in order to evaluate a given mathematical expression.
For example, in mathematics, multiplication is granted a higher precedence than addition, and it has been this way since the introduction of modern algebraic notation. Thus, the expression 2 + 3 × 4 is interpreted to have the value 2 + (3 × 4) = 14, not (2 + 3) × 4 = 20.
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iam_resurrected
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I know what you are doing OP but if I was in a shop and had 5 screws, 1 washer, and I needed to times that by 10 would not be 15 washers for 5 screws.
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sparks_01
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simple riddle=argument ...
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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why would I times 10 to the 1 mug before the 5 cheeseburgers. your math is a** backwards.
Order of Operations.
Probably about year 8 maths lol.
PEMDAS is common. It stands for Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction.
Multiplication is done BEFORE addition and subtraction.
Furthermore check it in any SCIENTIFIC calculator.
Eg. I checked it in Casio Fx-82 PLUS II Natural - V.P.A.M
It is Mathematically correct
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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Order of Operations.
Probably about year 8 maths lol.
PEMDAS is common. It stands for Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction.
Multiplication is done BEFORE addition and subtraction.
Furthermore check it in any SCIENTIFIC calculator.
Eg. I checked it in Casio Fx-82 PLUS II Natural - V.P.A.M
It is Mathematically correct
not practical math now is it because 5 screws only needs 5 washers and by your math I would need 15 washers for 5 screws.
that math is retarded then!!
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track_empirion
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you're talking to a brick Sienna. He thinks we're the crazy ones. 
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track_empirion
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not practical math now is it because 5 screws only needs 5 washers and by your math I would need 15 washers for 5 screws.
that math is retarded then!!
Right on dunderhead. Order of operations is retared when it comes to you and your loose screws.
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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not practical math now is it because 5 screws only needs 5 washers and by your math I would need 15 washers for 5 screws.
that math is retarded then!!
No, it's only like year 8 level math lmao.
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hippo65
Albuquerque, NM
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I know what you are doing OP but if I was in a shop and had 5 screws, 1 washer, and I needed to times that by 10 would not be 15 washers for 5 screws.
You would need that, because you KNOW you going to lose a few washers.
Never a screw, or a nut, it's always a washer that you need extra.
It's not math, or science, or physic. It's a fact.
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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Right on dunderhead. Order of operations is retared when it comes to you and your loose screws.
When it is mathematically correct
but people
still
argue lol 
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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you're talking to a brick Sienna. He thinks we're the crazy ones.
use your math on this and tell me if it makes sense?
5 screws times 1 washer times 10.
10 times 1 means I have (10 washers) or 2 washers per screw.
when I add that 10 to 5 it would now make 15 washers for 5 screws.
where is the logic in that?
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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use your math on this and tell me if it makes sense?
5 screws times 1 washer times 10.
10 times 1 means I have (10 washers) or 2 washers per screw.
when I add that 10 to 5 it would now make 15 washers for 5 screws.
where is the logic in that?
5 x 1 x 10 = 50
10 x 1 = 10 washers
10 + 5 = 15
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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but do you need 50 washers or 15 for 5 screws, or 3 washers per 1 screw?
see, math is fun and why I rip on science because math has no common sense to it (like those in science).
when you add common sense to how many washers needed for 5 screws you know 15 and 50 are wrong!!
so, what if science added common sense to their opinion since their math does not add up?
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track_empirion
Pineville, NC
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5 + 1 x 10 = 15
You must do the multiplication first. It is how mathematics works.
1 x 10 = 10
Then you do the addition.
5 + 10 = 15
It is basic math and your clear inability or refusal to grasp the concept does not make it wrong. Instead, it makes you dumb. 
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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but do you need 50 washers or 15 for 5 screws, or 3 washers per 1 screw?
see, math is fun and why I rip on science because math has no common sense to it (like those in science).
when you add common sense to how many washers needed for 5 screws you know 15 and 50 are wrong!!
so, what if science added common sense to their opinion since their math does not add up?
No, you did not make it an equation.
Each one of your problem lines were exclusive questions lol
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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5 + 1 x 10 = 15
You must do the multiplication first. It is how mathematics works.
1 x 10 = 10
Then you do the addition.
5 + 10 = 15
It is basic math and your clear inability or refusal to grasp the concept does not make it wrong. Instead, it makes you dumb.
no, because for math to be TRUE this equation of yours must [fit] all examples.
and it does not fit 5 screws and 15 washers
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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No, you did not make it an equation.
Each one of your problem lines were exclusive questions lol
I do not need to make an equation when I have 5 screws in my hand and I need 5 washers for those screws.
but by the math indicated it would claim I needed 3 washers per screw.
that is retarded.
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track_empirion
Pineville, NC
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Onward
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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no, because for math to be TRUE this equation of yours must [fit] all examples.
and it does not fit 5 screws and 15 washers
Your example was not applicable to the actual equation lol
15 + 15 = 30
10 + 10 = 20
4 + 4 = 8
15 + 5 x 4 = 35
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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Your example was not applicable to the actual equation lol
but the actual equation should apply to all math.
but 5 screws for 15 washers would not be applicable.
so, where does math remain true and common sense come into factor?
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hippo65
Albuquerque, NM
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Onward
35.
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iam_resurrected
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35
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iam_resurrected
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but still in another application 35 would be incorrect.
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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naaaaaaaaaooooo
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track_empirion
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Iam, you ridiculous blowhard, it's a math equation. It has no 1:1 ratio regarding washers and screws. There is no precedent set for that and therefore your application of it is moot. Now quit trolling my thread.
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sparks_01
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80
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hippo65
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Peach is 15, ONE cherry is 5 times orange which is 4.
5 times 4 is =20. Plus 15..35..
Oh hell I don't know. I think I am right. Am I??? 
You edit it!!
80????
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iam_resurrected
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Iam, you ridiculous blowhard, it's a math equation. It has no 1:1 ratio regarding washers and screws. There is no precedent set for that and therefore your application of it is moot. Now quit trolling my thread.
since there are no set precedents pertaining to common sense then does 15 washers seem reasonable for 5 screws?
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sparks_01
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Peach is 15, ONE cherry is 5 times orange which is 4.
5 times 4 is =20. Plus 15..35..
Oh hell I don't know. I think I am right. Am I???
thats a PEAR
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hippo65
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thats a PEAR
Oh yeah it is.
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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Peach is 15, ONE cherry is 5 times orange which is 4.
5 times 4 is =20. Plus 15..35..
Oh hell I don't know. I think I am right. Am I???
it's 35 as you posted.
I am just thinking about what if I added other things would it make sense is all.
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track_empirion
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35.
Hippo! You're learning. Great job!
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hippo65
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Now I just need to learn to recognize fruits.
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jakebearr
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How many chips ?!?
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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72
6+3x8=72
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Way to go Iam. Now you're getting the hang of it. 
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iam_resurrected
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was not trying to derail your thread, Op. just was seeing if these can be used in all situations [like a variable being monitored by stable standards] 
not trying to piss ya off.
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sadlsticsienna
AñatuyaNew South Wales
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
72
6+3x8=72
3x8 is done first then the +6
lol
just imagine there are invisible brackets 6 + (3 x 8)
it's 30
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hippo65
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410.
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track_empirion
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Nice work hippo.  You're not still cheating I hope.
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hippo65
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I honestly didn't.
I saw that right away.
5 plus 3 = 28...Noticed 3 plus 2 is 5..
9 plus 1 = 810..8 plus 1 is 9.. And so on..
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ez14u
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mylegsarecold
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Congrats Joe!
The answer is 15. The final equation works out to:
5+1x10 = ?
Order of operations calls for the multiplication to be calculated first. 1x10 = 10. Then the addition is calculated. 5+10 = 15. Hence, 15 is the correct answer.
Ill be back later with more fun for all!
I am sorry. But I have Joe blocked and according to your rules if
someone is blocked then their answer is not qualified.
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mylegsarecold
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ez14u
An a**hole?
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