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| 6/17/2017 6:46:45 AM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013
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| 1. Landlords |
| 2. Muslim Terrorists |
I know that's a tough one, but the following article should help in deciding.
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Corporate mass murder in London
17 June 2017
World Socialist Web Site
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/06/17/pers-j17.html
Excerpts:
Shock and horror has boiled over into raw anger and fury. Thousands protested in London Friday to demand justice and the punishment of those responsible for mass murder in the worst housing fire in modern British history.
Hundreds chanting “We want justice” for the victims of the Grenfell Tower inferno surrounded Kensington Town Hall, London to demand answers from council officials who had barricaded themselves in the building.
Prime Minister Theresa May while visiting Kensington was forced to remain in a church and was then chased away—surrounded by a heavy security detail—with protesters booing and shouting “shame on you” and “coward.”
This sentiment finds its echo throughout Britain and worldwide.
Millions are horrified by the loss of at least 100 and as many as 150 lives of working class residents in Wednesday’s fire.
Grenfell is not only an appalling tragedy. It is a crime. Those whose lives were taken were murdered just as surely as if a torch had been applied to the building.
Ruthless cost-cutting with no concern for public safety laid the basis for the Grenfell deaths and ensured the devastating, rapid spread of the fire from its initial source in just a single apartment.
The fire spread so rapidly due to the cladding on the building bursting into flames. It was added last year in a “refurbishment.” On Friday, what many already suspected was confirmed when it was revealed that the insulating material used was combustible. It was chosen because it was £2 per square metre cheaper than a “fire resistant” alternative. The saving made amounted to just £5,000.
This and other equally life-threatening decisions were taken or authorised by the Conservative-run Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea and the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation, who ran Grenfell Tower on its behalf. The tower block had no central fire alarm system, no sprinklers in place and just one exit stairwell. The authorities ignored repeated warnings from a tenants group and residents over many years who insisted that Grenfell was unsafe and a “death trap.”
Such flagrant criminality has deeper causes. The essential fact is that the Grenfell deaths are the product of class society and the “normal” workings of the capitalist system.
London is a world centre of speculation and financial parasitism. And the property market is a vital element of this global web of corruption. Land and housing in the capital have become one of the most lucrative commodities in the world. It is not only that London is home to 80 billionaires, but the fact that fully 60 percent of its skyscrapers and vast numbers of luxury houses and flats are owned by overseas companies or wealthy residents who rarely or never set foot in them.
Catering to this market demands the social cleansing of council estates of their poor residents, especially when they are located in a desirable area. This has become so routine that residents of the Lancaster West Estate are correct to insist that the failure to invest in Grenfell Tower was a deliberate effort to drive them out.
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| 6/17/2017 6:50:18 AM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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I'd have to go with LANDLORDS since all Muslims are not terrorists.
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| 6/17/2017 6:50:41 AM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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track_empirion
Pineville, NC
50, joined Mar. 2014
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Murder by neglect and murder by intent are what separates the subjects here. Murder by intent is more evil. Hence, my vote goes to the terrorists.
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| 6/17/2017 6:58:12 AM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013
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Excerpt:
It should be stressed that the death toll from Grenfell is expected to exceed the combined total resulting from every terrorist attack in the UK since the beginning of the so-called war on terror in 2001.
Whenever a terrorist attack has taken place in Britain over the last decade, the full force of the state has been brought to bear. Police have carried out raids on every person who is linked, even in the most innocuous way, to the individual terrorist. They have been immediately arrested and hauled off to be detained and grilled for days on end. In response to the Grenfell fire, not a single person in any responsible position has yet been arrested, let alone charged.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/06/17/pers-j17.html
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| 6/17/2017 7:02:21 AM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013
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Murder by neglect and murder by intent are what separates the subjects here. Murder by intent is more evil. Hence, my vote goes to the terrorists.
Sometimes murder by intent only looks like murder by neglect.
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| 6/17/2017 7:20:06 AM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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easttowest72
Bremen, GA
45, joined Sep. 2014
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Condor since you hate landlords, buy a house. Oh wait that requires a payment also. The world doesn't owe your black a** a living. Sell some of the crack instead of smoking it all.
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| 6/17/2017 7:34:23 AM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013
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Condor since you hate landlords, buy a house. Oh wait that requires a payment also. The world doesn't owe your black a** a living. Sell some of the crack instead of smoking it all.
It's a bad assessment of someone when they could become a slightly better human being if they stopped being a disgusting landlord parasite and joined ISIS.
By the way, I'm not black. The only reason that some of you deplorable right-wingers think I'm black is that I defended black people against your racist tirades.
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| 6/17/2017 3:16:20 PM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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uber_goober
Danielsville, GA
51, joined May. 2016
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Terroristic Muslim landlords?
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| 6/17/2017 3:24:43 PM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
36, joined Mar. 2013
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Pretty sure Muslim Terrorists are worse.
Landlords still use their cellphones, for uses other than detonation of roadside bombs....
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| 6/17/2017 4:26:37 PM |
Who is More Murderously Evil: Landlords or Muslim Terrorists? |
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013
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Pretty sure Muslim Terrorists are worse.
Landlords still use their cellphones, for uses other than detonation of roadside bombs....
Of course, without American capitalists there wouldn't be any Muslim terrorists. It's a pretty widely known fact that Al Qaeda was created by the CIA as was ISIS.
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Dirty Open Secret: US Created and Supports ISIS
By Stephen Lendman
June 14, 2017
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47241.htm
It’s one of the dirtiest of dirty open secrets.
US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) documents prove it – obtained by Judicial Watch through an FOIA lawsuit.
They show ISIS, al-Qaeda and like-minded terrorist groups are the “major forces” used as US foot soldiers in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere.
The myth of so-called “moderate rebels” was long ago discredited. Yet claiming they exist persists.
The DIA documents show America, NATO, Saudi Arabia and other regional rogue states support an Islamic caliphate to challenge, topple and replace Bashar al-Assad with an imperial puppet.
Longstanding US/Israeli plans call for redrawing the Middle East map by color revolutions and wars, replacing independent governments with pro-Western puppet regimes, balkanizing Iraq, Syria, Iran and other regional countries for easier control, looting their resources, and exploiting their people.
In a January 2016 Iran Review article, James Fetzer discussed evidence of ISIS’ creation by America.
In February 2015, Iraq’s military “downed 2 UK cargo planes carrying weapons for ISIL,” he explained.
In March 2015, “Iraqi popular forces…shot down a US helicopter carrying weapons for ISIL in Al-Anbar province…”
Photographic evidence proved it.
In response to an April 2015 Syrian request to designate ISIL (ISIS) a terrorist organization, “the US, Britain, France and Jordan refused…”
“Photographs…showing ISIS members sporting ‘US Army’ tattoos” went unreported by Western media scoundrels.
A 2012 DIA document states the West will facilitate the rise of ISIS “to isolate the Syrian regime.”
Former CIA contractor Steven Kelly said Washington
“created ISIL for the sake of Israel,” along with assuring “never-ending war in the Middle East” to make the Jewish state the dominant regional power and provide a “constant flow of orders for weapons from the military-industrial complex at home…”
ISIS fighters are recruited from scores of countries, including Western ones.
In October 2015, Russian lower house State Duma International Affairs Committee chairman Alexi Pushkov explained America is
“not bombing ISIS at all…Obama is lying to the American people.”
In November 2015, Vladimir Putin said dozens of countries are supporting ISIS, including America and other Western ones.
Fetzer:
“There are many other sources that confirm that ISIS was created by the US and is being supported by Western powers to promote their own political agenda, where nothing coming from the administration of Barack Obama is worthy of belief.”
“Since the nullification of the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 (which precluded the techniques of propaganda and disinformation within the United States) by the NDAA 2013, there are no trustworthy (mainstream) news sources in the US…”
In Washington, “ISIS is commonly called ‘John McCain’s Army’…(one of) the earliest advocates of (regional) military action” on the phony pretext of combating ISIS.
On Sunday, Fars News quoted Iranian armed forces deputy chief of staff General Mostafa Izadi saying:
“We possess documents and information showing the direct supports by the US imperialism for this highly disgusting stream (ISIS) in the region which has destroyed the Islamic countries and created a wave of massacres and clashes.”
Washington uses ISIS and like-minded groups as instruments for regional “proxy war…”
On Friday, Fars News quoted Iran’s parliament Speaker Ali Larijani, saying
“(t)he United States has aligned itself with the ISIL in the region.”
ISIS, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra (ISIS in Syria) and like-minded groups are US creations.
They’re used as foot soldiers to advance its imperium – responsible for aiding Washington rape and destroy one country after another.
Most Americans are unaware of Washington’s diabolical agenda in the Middle East, Central Asia, North Africa and elsewhere in their name – a bipartisan conspiracy against world peace, stability and security no matter the human cost.
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