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6/22/2017 10:39:26 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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Mitch the B*tch McConnell has now made public the latest GOP wealthcare bill, which gives huge tax breaks to the nations wealthiest like Dirty Donald, while giving states the right to deny coverage for such things as maternity care and drug addiction.It is in no way any kind of comprehensive health coverage.By giving states individual rights, to basically design their own healthcare, they make the most expensive plan they possibly could completely condescending to the health insurance companies. The health i8nsurersstocks along with all other medical stocks are soaring today.It gradually withdraws Medicaid payments to the states.This is not HEALTHCARE it is WEALTHCARE,tax breaks for those who absolutely do not need it.

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6/22/2017 11:45:43 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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Are we one country of the United States of America, or are we 50 different countries???With different laws and different healthcare for our citizens??Why is the GOP constantly trying to divide our nation.

6/22/2017 12:01:12 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
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52, joined Aug. 2013


Wealthcare? WHAT?! You mean to say that the bill that has been talked about for a week, written in secret by old white republican males was just a giant tax break for the rich and NOT a viable healthcare plan that doesn't kick people of, doesn't raise premiums and deductibles, doesn't abandon existing conditions, doesn't rob from medicare and Medicaid as PROMISED, ON TELEVISION, FROM THE C*CKHOLSTER IN THE FACE OF DUMBOLD CHUMP TO GET ELECTED?!


dah f**k outta here...

6/22/2017 12:12:08 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (43,191)
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This proposal, just like the House proposal, does nothing to address the EVER RISING cost of health care in the USA,which is far beyond the inflation rate every year.Unless we control costs no one will be able to pay for health care.

6/22/2017 12:20:28 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

cinnamonnhaze
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,407)
Minneapolis, MN
53, joined Apr. 2014


Yep.
And the government wonders why the mortality/death rate is so much higher in the poor communities.
Go figure, huh?
It shouldn't take a genius to figure this out.

I was reading an article the other day. It talked about how doctors typically refuse to give poor people pain medications - even when the same procedure on a wealthy person gets them 1 or 2 HUNDRED oxy's.

I guess that how Rush became an addict. He must have had a hangnail.

6/22/2017 12:33:28 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
cherisays
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Bloomingdale, GA
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How the F**K do you know what the bill is going to do when it was just released today? Or did CNN tell you what to post?

6/22/2017 12:41:01 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

wvtravlrr
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Quote from cherisays:
How the F**K do you know what the bill is going to do when it was just released today? Or did CNN tell you what to post?



Pffft....

Hes an expert on everything political....just ask him..


You know what an expert is right??..

A wise ass.. know it all..when hes not at home...

Cause when he's home...he's told he's fulla shit....



[Edited 6/22/2017 12:42:38 PM ]

6/22/2017 12:47:43 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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No commentary on the post,just shoot the messenger??

6/22/2017 12:50:36 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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Just look at todays stock market, where virtually every medical connected stock is way up, and you can see who this legislation was written for.

6/22/2017 12:50:57 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
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pshhhhhhh yeah, shoot the messenger!! What do you think, they're going to place blame where it belongs?!

6/22/2017 12:52:52 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

mudclean
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giving states individual rights, to basically design their own healthcare,

That's actually what the 10th amendment is supposed to do!

Although the federal government has the constitutional authority to tax and spend, it does not have the authority to regulate intrastate healthcare plans and it never did!

Unfortunately, the Democrats have been able to force unconstitutional mandates on us because they have given themselves the power to ruin anybody who stands up for their rights.

6/22/2017 12:55:37 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

cinnamonnhaze
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That's why this bill has been a big secret.
The Dems have been asking to see it for weeks, but given nothing.

They're gonna try to shove it through without letting anyone see it - just like the last one (where everyone that was for it had never read it).
Shouldn't reading be an important part of holding public office?













Oh, wait. I forgot who is in the Oval Office.....

6/22/2017 12:55:50 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
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HEY! Give us some statistics on that!

6/22/2017 1:02:52 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
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Rand Paul just announced that this bill shit...him and 3 other senators will vote it down.

6/22/2017 1:17:38 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
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Vallejo, CA
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It's funny.
I grew up in a rural farm town and was talking to an
old friend last night.
She was telling me how before the election
everyone was wearing their Trumps hat's and parroting
MAGA at every opportunity.

Now, there's no trump hats to be seen and they're all
trying to pretend they never really supported him
in the first place.

Sure, there's still a few that would make the perfect
trump drunk delusional DH poster, but most of them actually
woke up to the fact they voted in a cluster f**k.

6/22/2017 1:27:29 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

cinnamonnhaze
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Quote from muldoon1959:
It's funny.
I grew up in a rural farm town and was talking to an
old friend last night.
She was telling me how before the election
everyone was wearing their Trumps hat's and parroting
MAGA at every opportunity.

Now, there's no trump hats to be seen and they're all
trying to pretend they never really supported him
in the first place.

Sure, there's still a few that would make the perfect
trump drunk delusional DH poster, but most of them actually
woke up to the fact they voted in a cluster f**k.




Yep. I think it was on BBC News where they went to the streets & asked those that voted for chump were happy that they did. The overwhelming answer was NO.
They also asked these chump suppeoters if they would vote for him again. The answer was also an overwhelming NO.

Most of his former supporters are waking up, catching on to his lies & now see he was only in it for the money - for himself & his billionaire buddies.

I really hope he goes to prison. He's bought his way out for his entire life. I think it's time he pays a real price - not just a petty fine.

6/22/2017 1:34:56 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

longbobby
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Doesn't matter. We're ALL going to be DEAD 12 hours from now.

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A SHOCKING video has warned that a massive asteroid will strike the Earth in June, killing millions of people after causing a global tsunami and magnitude 12 killer earthquake


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6/22/2017 1:42:28 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

longbobby
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Senate Republicans released their 142-page draft healthcare bill. It makes deep revisions to the Affordable Care Act by cutting mandatory purchases, cutting taxes and pulling out of Medicaid expansion.

Here's the link the Minister of Propaganda REFUSED to post ...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-22/senate-reveils-details-trumpcare-bill-vote-expected-next-week



If the mandate is pulled, its golden ... nothing they do will fix the problem but as long as they aren't forcing Americans to purchase insurance against their will, then who cares?

6/22/2017 5:10:04 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

mudclean
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Quote from cinnamonnhaze:
That's why this bill has been a big secret.
The Dems have been asking to see it for weeks, but given nothing.

They're gonna try to shove it through without letting anyone see it - just like the last one (where everyone that was for it had never read it).
Shouldn't reading be an important part of holding public office?













Oh, wait. I forgot who is in the Oval Office.....


You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it stupid.



[Edited 6/22/2017 5:12:10 PM ]

6/22/2017 5:12:38 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
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Quote from mudclean:
You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it stupid.


Yeah sorry but you're a f**king liar.
Know why?

That was a soundbite taken out of context and lied about.
And now you're just perpetuating the lie.

6/22/2017 5:12:41 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

starfox22
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Here is my opinion on the matter, and we all know that I am the single smartest person in all of America when it comes to health care and health insurance. Agreed...Yes

Now.....hmmmm......no you are all going to have to wait for it. Unlike retarded democrats like Chuckycheese Shumer I am going to read it digest it and then give you all my EXPERT OPINION.

Stay tuned for further developments.

6/22/2017 5:16:23 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
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GOLLLLLLL-LY!!!! You're just like duhhhhhhh president, aintcha!

6/22/2017 5:17:29 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
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Quote from starfox22:
Here is my opinion on the matter, and we all know that I am the single smartest person in all of America when it comes to health care and health insurance. Agreed...Yes

No.
You're just a scumbag insurance salesman that'll tell any lie
you have to to make a sale.

Now.....hmmmm......no you are all going to have to wait for it. Unlike retarded democrats like Chuckycheese Shumer I am going to read it digest it and then give you all my EXPERT OPINION.

Stay tuned for further developments.


Expert.
What a f**king joke.

6/22/2017 5:20:31 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
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By the way, anyone that could read
the ACA and still walk way think there would be
death pannels (you) is a f**king moron.

6/22/2017 5:22:22 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

mudclean
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Quote from muldoon1959:
Yeah sorry but you're a f**king liar.
Know why?

That was a soundbite taken out of context and lied about.
And now you're just perpetuating the lie.


And I suppose the brilliant Muldummy can clarify what she meant.

6/22/2017 5:23:16 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
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Because you're too stupid to figure it out? Watching the clip, it's not very difficult to understand it...just saying
*********************************************************



DEATH PANELS!!! I forgot about them!

OMG! I heard about them and thought, are you f**king stupid?! AND THEN I SEEN PEOPLE DISCUSSING IT FOR REAL! I couldn't believe how stupid it made them look!



[Edited 6/22/2017 5:25:04 PM ]

6/22/2017 5:27:50 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
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Quote from mudclean:
And I suppose the brilliant Muldummy can clarify what she meant.


That's easy.
If you can't figure that out then you're f**king stupid too.

First, you have to recognize the lie about how she said
in front of congress. It wasn't. It was at the
association of counties.
Then, you have to look at the whole soundbite.

What she actually said, "We have to pass it so
you can see it outside the fog of controversy


Meaning the republicans were telling so many lies about it
they'd have to wait until it was actually implement to
see that none of the shit the republicans were lying about
would happen.

Guess what.
None of the shit republicans were lying about actually happened.

6/22/2017 5:33:35 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
drwookie
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Quote from mudclean:
giving states individual rights, to basically design their own healthcare,

That's actually what the 10th amendment is supposed to do!

Although the federal government has the constitutional authority to tax and spend, it does not have the authority to regulate intrastate healthcare plans and it never did!

Unfortunately, the Democrats have been able to force unconstitutional mandates on us because they have given themselves the power to ruin anybody who stands up for their rights.


States don't design health care a**hole, insurance companies do.
The Supreme Court decides constitutionality not some moron that posts nothing but lies!

Yea the federal government can regulate fraud on consumers by financial institutions within any jurisdiction.

You pea brain is not smart enough to understand how that works.

6/22/2017 5:34:49 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

mudclean
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Warren, MI
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Obamacare: Killing the poor with shitty doctors since we found out what's in it.

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2013/11/12/death-by-obamacare-reform-reams-cancer-patients/amp/

6/22/2017 5:43:25 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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We ALREADY have the most expensive healthcare in the world, and today health related stocks were all up on the stock market, as this legislation will serve to enrich them all even more.

6/22/2017 5:45:33 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
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THERE'S PROBLEM ONE!!!

When our premiums/deductibles are dictated by profits and loses...not good, bigly.

6/22/2017 5:46:54 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
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Quote from mudclean:
Obamacare: Killing the poor with shitty doctors since we found out what's in it.

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2013/11/12/death-by-obamacare-reform-reams-cancer-patients/amp/


Yet another crock of shit lie.

That was yet another one of those bullshit
Obmacare "horror stories" that was quickly debunked
because the women in question didn't go through
the exchanges. When she did, she actually got a better
rate than what she was currently getting.

Pretty much all of those "real life" horror stories
got debunked like that.

That's why they had to switch to paid actors
to keep lying about it.

Every time they tried to use a real life example,
the lie got blown out of the water.

6/22/2017 5:47:49 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

cinnamonnhaze
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Minneapolis, MN
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Quote from mudclean:
You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it stupid.



You have to read the bill to know what's in it stupid.

As I said, the last time the republicants who supported it admitted they never READ it.

6/22/2017 5:48:45 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

mudclean
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Quote from 61falcon:
We ALREADY have the most expensive healthcare in the world, and today health related stocks were all up on the stock market, as this legislation will serve to enrich them all even more.


You're right!

Health related companies should quit healing people.

We should put YOU in charge!

6/22/2017 5:54:23 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

progrocknic
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Mount Arlington, NJ
33, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from mudclean:
You're right!

Health related companies should quit healing people.

We should put YOU in charge!


Healing people? Pharmaceutical companies healing people?

Yes, let's let the pharmaceutical industry take charge. We can let them push heroin use onto kids again. Oh wait, the still kind of do that. I seem to remember something about an opioid addiction problem in this country.

Anyway, let's let them control it for sure. They were smart enough to classify marijuana as being just as dangerous as heroin. I mean, what's not to trust.



[Edited 6/22/2017 5:54:53 PM ]

6/22/2017 6:00:46 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

cinnamonnhaze
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Minneapolis, MN
53, joined Apr. 2014


Well, for all those "death panel" parrots, you can start parroting
them again.

The Chief Thief is bringing them in - for real this time.

Basically everything is a pre existing condition & it's up to each state to decide what they want to cut.

Looks like you RED state folks are going to have an awfully long drive to see a doctor.

And if you need an ambulance - tough shit. So while you're in the midst of your fried chicken & Oreo heart attack, you have to get in your car or hop on a bus & try & get yourself to a hospital.
But if you get to one - on time - they could deem that as being a pre existing condition.

Oh, the good news - it give YUGE tax cuts to the top 2%.

6/22/2017 6:04:06 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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Unless we CUT the cost of healthcare,it won't make any difference because only the top ten percent of earners will be able to afford it.This Returdlicker plan offers many employers the chance to backout of their expensive employee health care plans,which I'm sure some will take advantage of.

6/22/2017 6:07:39 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
drwookie
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63, joined May. 2013


Quote from mudclean:
You have to pass the bill to find out what's in it stupid.


Sure, you're just stupid enough to support a bill not knowing what's in it.

6/22/2017 6:56:40 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
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Vallejo, CA
58, joined Feb. 2008


Myth:
ACHA is being rushed through,
behind closed doors with zero input
from the Dems because that's how the
Dems did it in 2009 with ACA

Fact:
ACA went the 106 public hearings with
170 Republican ammendments and the whole
process took over a year to complete.

6/22/2017 7:08:26 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
drwookie
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,578)
Reading, PA
63, joined May. 2013


Quote from mudclean:
Obamacare: Killing the poor with shitty doctors since we found out what's in it.

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2013/11/12/death-by-obamacare-reform-reams-cancer-patients/amp/


The Russians are happy you use an article from a right wing rag to influence idiots into voting against themselves.
Tell us this dungmaster, why do the Russians want us to ruin our country?

6/22/2017 7:09:10 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

viper1e
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Quote from 61falcon:
Mitch the B*tch McConnell has now made public the latest GOP wealthcare bill, which gives huge tax breaks to the nations wealthiest like Dirty Donald, while giving states the right to deny coverage for such things as maternity care and drug addiction.It is in no way any kind of comprehensive health coverage.By giving states individual rights, to basically design their own healthcare, they make the most expensive plan they possibly could completely condescending to the health insurance companies. The health i8nsurersstocks along with all other medical stocks are soaring today.It gradually withdraws Medicaid payments to the states.This is not HEALTHCARE it is WEALTHCARE,tax breaks for those who absolutely do not need it.


Sounds awesome to me!

They're killing off their own voting block(s).

Christmas is coming early! Redneck funerals for days!

6/23/2017 7:04:35 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

mudclean
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Quote from progrocknic:
Healing people? Pharmaceutical companies healing people?

Yes, let's let the pharmaceutical industry take charge. We can let them push heroin use onto kids again. Oh wait, the still kind of do that. I seem to remember something about an opioid addiction problem in this country.

Anyway, let's let them control it for sure. They were smart enough to classify marijuana as being just as dangerous as heroin. I mean, what's not to trust.


If Obamacare is so great then why did pharmaceutical prices go up instead of down?

Not sure? Well, maybe you should read.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/16/john-barrasso-obamacare-shares-blame-for-high-drug/

6/23/2017 7:07:22 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

progrocknic
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,442)
Mount Arlington, NJ
33, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from mudclean:
If Obamacare is so great then why did pharmaceutical prices go up instead of down?

Not sure? Well, maybe you should read.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/16/john-barrasso-obamacare-shares-blame-for-high-drug/


Obama care isn't great. It was just a way to increase profits for the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. It's great for them. And that's why it's not likely to change. Unless of course someone finds a way to make even more profit.

6/23/2017 7:53:40 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
mralwaysrite
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Estevan, SK
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Quote from progrocknic:
Obama care isn't great. It was just a way to increase profits for the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. It's great for them. And that's why it's not likely to change. Unless of course someone finds a way to make even more profit.


I have a conservative proposal that would;

1. reduce your total net social spending by at least 5% of GDP

2. increase State revenues

3. eliminate deductibles and co-pays

4. lower the employer/employee health care premiums by 75%, thus make corporate America more competitive, and increase employee's disposable income

5. NOT raise taxes, both corporate and individual

6. reduce health care related tax breaks/deduction/credits by at least 75%

all of the above, VERY CONSERVATIVE, and FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE, however, the plan is liberal

PROPOSAL; Medicare Part A and B FOR ALL, no deductibles, no-copays

Questions?

6/23/2017 8:11:34 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

fishnthec
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Mesquite, TX
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The Congress Bill is worse than the House Bill! Dead on Arrival!

Mitch McConnel met with the Insurance Lobby before he ever assembled his panel to create the bill! The Insurance Lobby is calling the shots here.

But this bill has nothing to do with making anything better for healthcare for any Americans.

This Bill's entire aim was to shut down Planned Parenthood, and defund Medicaid to pay for the 600 billion dollar tax cut for business and the richest Americans.

You would have to be the world's stupidest fool to argue that!

But, go ahead and make a complete idiot out of yourself for trying!

6/23/2017 8:19:46 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

fishnthec
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I just wrote my stupid Republican Congressman that was on the Congressional committee that wrote the bill to tell him, "I no longer support the Medical benefits that cover the Congressmen and their families that we, the taxpayers, are paying for with our hard-earned tax dollars".

When the Republican Congress starts to care about our healthcare, I will start caring about theirs!

F**k Congress! And they can take their healthcare bill and shove it up their ass!



6/23/2017 11:16:29 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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Just as we finally got congress to begin paying into Social Security,we need to require them to have the Trumpcare they feel is good for everyone else!!

6/23/2017 11:29:40 AM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

longbobby
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Lufkin, TX
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Ending the mandate that one MUST have health insurance is a good thing.

It will force the health insurance companies to make their products attractive to consumers with lower rates and lower deductibles.

A lot of people who were forced to buy "Obamacare compliant" policies wound up being severely hurt by them financially.



Amazing how libtards aren't getting that.

6/23/2017 12:50:31 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
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76, joined Feb. 2008


Nothing congress does addresses the extreme high cost of medical care in the USA,while being nowhere near the best.

6/23/2017 12:53:00 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
61falcon
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (43,191)
New Hope, PA
76, joined Feb. 2008


This proposal by the Returdlickers is a joke, it is nothing but a thinly veiled tax roll back on the uber wealthy and the medical device companies.

6/23/2017 12:59:30 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

tragicparrot
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,641)
Painesville, OH
98, joined Mar. 2014


""The Senate version of Trumpcare – the Better Care Reconciliation Act – is out. The substance is terrible: tens of millions of people will experience financial distress if this passes, and tens if not hundreds of thousands will die premature deaths, all for the sake of tax cuts for a handful of wealthy people. What’s even more amazing is that Republicans are making almost no effort to justify this massive upward redistribution of income. They’re doing it because they can, because they believe that the tribalism of their voters is strong enough that they will continue to support politicians who are ruining their lives.""

""So, is this bill good for you? Yes, if you meet the following criteria:

1.Your income is more than $200,000 a year
2.You have a job that comes with good health insurance
3.You can’t imagine any circumstances under which you lose that job or income
4.You don’t have any family members or friends who don’t meet those criteria
5.You have zero empathy for anyone else""

https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/krugman/2017/06/23/pure-class-warfare-with-extra-contempt/#_=_

6/23/2017 1:02:19 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
muldoon1959
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (23,279)
Vallejo, CA
58, joined Feb. 2008


It'll be the best healthcare ever!!!!

Nope..
Duped again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8mcN0zweQE



[Edited 6/23/2017 1:02:37 PM ]

6/23/2017 3:34:54 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
drwookie
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,578)
Reading, PA
63, joined May. 2013


Quote from mudclean:
You're right!

Health related companies should quit healing people.

We should put YOU in charge!


You can't afford insurance unless the Russians are paying for it by tracking all the lies you post!

6/23/2017 3:37:49 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (250,037)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010




6/23/2017 4:06:02 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

dwwcat
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,833)
Orange, TX
45, joined Jun. 2010


When someone criticizes Trumpcare saying hes cutting medicare and medicaid..

Simply tell them that not one single person that is on medicaid or Medicare is going to lose coverage.

6/23/2017 4:08:40 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (43,970)
Oral, SD
52, joined Aug. 2013


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH BOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!!!


Then YOU can simply tell the parents of a newborn severely disabled child, "SORRY! you're just going to have to let it die, there's just no more money".



[Edited 6/23/2017 4:09:04 PM ]

6/23/2017 4:48:37 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

longbobby
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (97,821)
Lufkin, TX
56, joined Aug. 2010


Quote from dwwcat:
When someone criticizes Trumpcare saying hes cutting medicare and medicaid..

Simply tell them that not one single person that is on medicaid or Medicare is going to lose coverage.


I agree; it isn't like CNN / MSBNC; and/or the Minister of Propaganda 61 scrotum or any other liberals is going to say a single word of truth about it.

Ever.

6/23/2017 4:53:43 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

mudclean
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,131)
Warren, MI
36, joined Sep. 2008


Death by competition?

I have been wondering why Republicans have such a hard time cutting the Obamacare cord. If we give them the benefit of the doubt, here is the logic.

Keep Obamacare as is, but cut the taxes out.

Allow states to offer competitive alternatives.

Watch people abandon Obamacare by the cargo load.

Kill Obamacare dead.

We'll see. We'll see.

6/23/2017 4:57:17 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

scarredandtatto
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (43,970)
Oral, SD
52, joined Aug. 2013


Your understanding of healthcare is as intense as chrump's I see.


Don't quit your day job.

6/23/2017 5:20:00 PM The new Returdlicker Wealthcare bill now public.  

starfox22
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,053)
Castle Rock, CO
60, joined Jan. 2009


Quote from 61falcon:
Unless we CUT the cost of healthcare,it won't make any difference because only the top ten percent of earners will be able to afford it.This Returdlicker plan offers many employers the chance to backout of their expensive employee health care plans,which I'm sure some will take advantage of.




Kudos, you are 100% correct. Unless we deal with the cost of providing health care then no law is going to be worth a damn. Obama could have been a hero to all if one sentence in the ACA actually did anything about the cost of the delivery of health care. But it didn't. It just drove up costs for everyone involved. Including doctors whom were required to retro fit their offices to provide electronic claims functioning at an average cost of $35,000 per practice, that really helped slow the cost of providing health care. The ACA mandated a number of very expensive coverages that a small percent of Americans will ever need and raised the cost to all of us. I of course could go on and on, but neither the ACA or the new GOP plan is going to cut costs. But, that doesn't mean that something shouldn't be done to get rid of the single worst piece of legislation ever passed in the history of this country Obamacare.

This new law might very well suck, but it would be impossible to suck worst than Obamacare and that makes it a good thing.