| 7/16/2017 1:12:57 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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Friday, shut down. All Alfred Angelo stores, offices empty.
Brides didn't know until they went to pick up their dress. 
Usually, the deposit when you order is half, or more, of the price of the dress.
Glad I'm not the mom of one of those poor girls 
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| 7/16/2017 1:23:49 PM |
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easttowest72
Bremen, GA
45, joined Sep. 2014
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Courthouse 
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| 7/16/2017 1:25:48 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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I wonder where the consumer falls in the waiting line for bankruptcy. Do they have priority over employees or suppliers ? 
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| 7/16/2017 1:30:22 PM |
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mindya
Vancouver, BC
64, joined Jan. 2009
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I'm pretty sure no DH poster is affected....
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| 7/16/2017 1:33:39 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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I was engaged a few yrs ago, bought a Michelle Piccione dress there.
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| 7/16/2017 1:35:47 PM |
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mindya
Vancouver, BC
64, joined Jan. 2009
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I'm pretty sure you managed to get out of there eventually...
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| 7/16/2017 1:45:07 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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yes, good thing 
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| 7/16/2017 1:59:31 PM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
36, joined Mar. 2013
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Friday, shut down. All Alfred Angelo stores, offices empty.
Brides didn't know until they went to pick up their dress.
Usually, the deposit when you order is half, or more, of the price of the dress.
Glad I'm not the mom of one of those poor girls
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| 7/16/2017 2:05:42 PM |
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
55, joined May. 2011
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Lots of naked weddings coming up then
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| 7/16/2017 2:34:37 PM |
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legaleye
Columbus, OH
65, joined Mar. 2008
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The naked marriage idea is probably not such a good idea given the physical condition of most brides and grooms today, and I am talking about the young people. Scares me how many bridal gowns are size 16 and above and mens suits are over size 50 in US sizing.
Interesting question on who owns the inventory. It is usually not the customer, as smart suppliers, when they see trouble on the horizon, wont deliver without UCC filings. Employees have some preference in unpaid wages, but not much, and in the end, how much cash is there to make any payments?
The article I read said basically all the employees left on Thursday taking their personal stuff with them, so who other than lawyers are still there to handle any business? Answer.... not much.
Good luck.
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| 7/16/2017 3:02:51 PM |
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sinceresammy
Dayton, OH
62, joined Mar. 2014
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I wonder where the consumer falls in the waiting line for bankruptcy. Do they have priority over employees or suppliers ?
All they can do is submit a statement of loss to the bankruptcy court. If there is any money or assets left over after settling with those who have priority claims, they'll get them. Guess what? There won't be any.
Is this a sign that the number of people getting married now-a-days is on the decline?
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| 7/16/2017 3:06:40 PM |
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
59, joined Feb. 2013
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Woo hoo capitalism!
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| 7/16/2017 3:07:26 PM |
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spotforusername
Fernandina Beach, FL
51, joined Jan. 2013
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I read an article about this situation. Apparently a lot of women are donating their gowns to help women who don't have the funds to "start all over" and buy another dress. Very heart warming.
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| 7/16/2017 3:18:17 PM |
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l380
Alabaster, AL
45, joined Sep. 2014
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I read the same article about this that you did, it also went on to say that brides who haven't gotten their dresses yet, they will be mailed to them upon completion at promised time as if they were still going to go to the store and pick them up.
Why make a thread about non-news and then purposely leave out the main reason of the article, as if you're? trying to drum up controversy trying to make people think that the dress shop just closed their doors and told all those brides " tough shit".
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| 7/16/2017 3:37:26 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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LOL - trying to fight?
The article I read didn't include that. 
Why make a thread about non-news and then purposely leave out the main reason of the article, as if you're? trying to drum up controversy trying to make people think that the dress shop just closed their doors and told all those brides " tough shit".
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| 7/16/2017 3:40:36 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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I don't think so. That brand opened a bunch of stores nationwide all at once, about 10 yrs ago. The dresses used to be bought at independent stores selling several brands.
Bad business model.
All they can do is submit a statement of loss to the bankruptcy court. If there is any money or assets left over after settling with those who have priority claims, they'll get them. Guess what? There won't be any.
Is this a sign that the number of people getting married now-a-days is on the decline?
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| 7/16/2017 4:44:03 PM |
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sinceresammy
Dayton, OH
62, joined Mar. 2014
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I don't think so. That brand opened a bunch of stores nationwide all at once, about 10 yrs ago. The dresses used to be bought at independent stores selling several brands.
Bad business model.
All they can do is submit a statement of loss to the bankruptcy court. If there is any money or assets left over after settling with those who have priority claims, they'll get them. Guess what? There won't be any.
Is this a sign that the number of people getting married now-a-days is on the decline?
You don't think so? I don't think you know how to think. It went bankrupt. All claims now have to be settled by a bankruptcy court or judge. This is a slow process and could take years!
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| 7/16/2017 5:04:14 PM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
36, joined Mar. 2013
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I read an article about this situation. Apparently a lot of women are donating their gowns to help women who don't have the funds to "start all over" and buy another dress. Very heart warming.
I'm more shocked they aren't just making their groom waste more money on them, since any other time they don't care about how much money they gouge out of us....
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| 7/16/2017 5:07:10 PM |
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sillylaugher61
Murrysville, PA
55, joined Aug. 2011
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well I remember that we had 2 flooring companies go bankrupt shortly after I did business with them. the one store, We bought several packages of tile flooring on a credit card. they had to special order them. About a week after picking up my order, they closed.
My carpeting was paid for by my insurance company. 2 months later, they shut their doors!
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| 7/16/2017 5:08:02 PM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
36, joined Mar. 2013
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All they can do is submit a statement of loss to the bankruptcy court. If there is any money or assets left over after settling with those who have priority claims, they'll get them. Guess what? There won't be any.
Is this a sign that the number of people getting married now-a-days is on the decline?
Marriage has been on steady decline, since bitter a** broads started burning their bras and claiming they wanted "Equality".
Ironically, divorce rates have inversely reacted to this trend, by INCRESING because the same bitter, bra burning broads weren't satisfied with "Equality" and started using the courts to "defeat the oppressive patriarchy".....
As more and more men see the other men around them being stripped of everything they have ever worked for, they got smart and began avoiding marriage altogether.
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| 7/16/2017 5:08:59 PM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
36, joined Mar. 2013
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well I remember that we had 2 flooring companies go bankrupt shortly after I did business with them. the one store, We bought several packages of tile flooring on a credit card. they had to special order them. About a week after picking up my order, they closed.
My carpeting was paid for by my insurance company. 2 months later, they shut their doors!
That is crazy!
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| 7/16/2017 5:36:30 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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Is this a sign that the number of people getting married now-a-days is on the decline?
I don't think so. That brand opened a bunch of stores nationwide all at once, about 10 yrs ago. The dresses used to be bought at independent stores selling several brands.
Bad business model.
I answered your question, not your statement.
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| 7/16/2017 5:37:17 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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Do you have a statistical source?
Marriage has been on steady decline, since bitter a** broads started burning their bras and claiming they wanted "Equality".
Ironically, divorce rates have inversely reacted to this trend, by INCRESING because the same bitter, bra burning broads weren't satisfied with "Equality" and started using the courts to "defeat the oppressive patriarchy".....
As more and more men see the other men around them being stripped of everything they have ever worked for, they got smart and began avoiding marriage altogether.
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| 7/16/2017 7:01:04 PM |
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legaleye
Columbus, OH
65, joined Mar. 2008
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Quote from l380:
I read the same article about this that you did, it also went on to say that brides who haven't gotten their dresses yet, they will be mailed to them upon completion at promised time as if they were still going to go to the store and pick them up.
Why make a thread about non-news and then purposely leave out the main reason of the article, as if you're? trying to drum up controversy trying to make people think that the dress shop just closed their doors and told all those brides " tough shit".
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Believe it when you see it. Exactly who is going to mail them? Unless they have money to bring them back, they apparently laid off all the employees on Thursday. The bankruptcy lawyers aren't going to do it.
Bankruptcy can be extremely nasty and people get hurt emotionally and financially.
And then you have various classes of customers. For example, some dresses and gowns are at the stores ready to be picked up. Some are at the store ready for final fitting. Some are still at the manufacturer and the manufacturer is not going to deliver to anyone without getting paid. And then you have payment status. Some customers have paid in full and have dresses ready to pick up. Some only have paid deposits. The number of variations is amazingly large.
Assuming there is a bankruptcy filed, the only way they expedite delivery of anything is if other creditors, the secured ones, waive their rights to priority with respect to customer claims. I would suggest, based on my experience, it would take quite a while, think months, to hammer out the agreement necessary to present to the judge to get that done.
There are some other things that can be done to help, but dont hold thy breath.
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| 7/16/2017 8:26:27 PM |
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driver406
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009
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Seems to me this is why guys RENT the tux! The place goes belly up? They go somewhere else and curse the clowns that cheated them. It's just a whole lot cheaper than buying a tux he knows he'll only wear once.
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| 7/16/2017 8:28:14 PM |
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driver406
Saint Paul, MN
65, joined Oct. 2009
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Marriage has been on steady decline, since bitter a** broads started burning their bras and claiming they wanted "Equality".
Ironically, divorce rates have inversely reacted to this trend, by INCRESING because the same bitter, bra burning broads weren't satisfied with "Equality" and started using the courts to "defeat the oppressive patriarchy".....
As more and more men see the other men around them being stripped of everything they have ever worked for, they got smart and began avoiding marriage altogether.
Have to agree! I'd like to meet a woman who could make me say I do! I'm going platonic and lets keep EVERYTHING separate.
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| 7/16/2017 8:28:34 PM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
36, joined Mar. 2013
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Do you have a statistical source?
Marriage has been on steady decline, since bitter a** broads started burning their bras and claiming they wanted "Equality".
Ironically, divorce rates have inversely reacted to this trend, by INCRESING because the same bitter, bra burning broads weren't satisfied with "Equality" and started using the courts to "defeat the oppressive patriarchy".....
As more and more men see the other men around them being stripped of everything they have ever worked for, they got smart and began avoiding marriage altogether.
As quoted: "The survey also finds striking differences by generation. In 1960, two-thirds (68%) of all twenty-somethings were married. In 2008, just 26% were. How many of today’s youth will eventually marry is an open question. For now, the survey finds that the young are much more inclined than their elders to view cohabitation without marriage and other new family forms — such as same sex marriage and interracial marriage — in a positive light."
http://www.randalolson.com/2015/06/15/144-years-of-marriage-and-divorce-in-1-chart/
Marriages & Divorces per capita
1960 - 7.5 marriages/1000 people - 2.6 divorces/1000 people. Effective Divorce % of about 32%
2010 - 7.0 marriages/1000 people - 3.1 divorces/1000 people. Effective Divorce % of about 45%
And it is a well-known FACT, that almost 70% of ALL divorces are filed by the WOMAN.
http://www.aarp.org/research/topics/life/info-2014/divorce.html
So, we can clearly see my statements are VALID and ACCURATE....
Or do I need to find FACTS of how DIVORCE FAVORS WOMEN, too?
Would you also like statistics on how many married women keep a "Plan B" man on the side?
Or how women are MORE ABUSIVE than men are?
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| 7/16/2017 8:30:37 PM |
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enigmaathand
Leavittsburg, OH
36, joined Mar. 2013
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Brenda, your first mistake was thinking I couldn't back up my claims....
It's ok though. Most women hate hearing the truth, despite how many of them claim to want it....
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| 7/16/2017 8:59:53 PM |
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skyyfalls
New York, NY
49, joined Nov. 2016
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I didn't think you couldn't, I just asked for them.
The CDC statistics show the marriage rate dropped from 8.2 to 6.9 from 2000-2014. That's 1.3 marriages less per 1000 people.
I don't think the difference is big enough to write diatribes insulting women.
I don't know who you are, I've had you blocked since you appeared. You don't have the privilege of calling me by my name.
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| 7/16/2017 10:09:50 PM |
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sinceresammy
Dayton, OH
62, joined Mar. 2014
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Brenda, your first mistake was thinking I couldn't back up my claims....
It's ok though. Most women hate hearing the truth, despite how many of them claim to want it....
I think the take away from Enigmaboi's emotional outburst is women are getting divorced or avoiding marriage because of guys like him.
Anyway, what lady wants to live in a trailer in the woods and ride around in a beat up Saturn?
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| 7/17/2017 2:15:23 AM |
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cavie59
Enid, OK
58, joined Feb. 2010
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I wonder where the consumer falls in the waiting line for bankruptcy. Do they have priority over employees or suppliers ?
Last ones to get any money, if there is any left.
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| 7/17/2017 3:11:41 AM |
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bumblebee7
Fort Payne, AL
62, joined Apr. 2011
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I wonder if this is a sign, that more and more people are not getting married enough anymore, or just bad management in a particular wedding company ???
Just in case its the first possibility, I advise all to dump their diamond stocks....
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| 7/17/2017 7:22:21 AM |
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bookwormtobutte
Rio Rancho, NM
37, joined Jan. 2016
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I got my dress, its stashed away safe and sound. Might not ever get to use it, but just in case I have it, its the dress of my dreams.
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| 7/17/2017 7:22:50 AM |
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bookwormtobutte
Rio Rancho, NM
37, joined Jan. 2016
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And it only cost me $180
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