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7/28/2017 10:32:06 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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I've noticed in many cases of cheating couples where the woman had another man's child the women are saying... Well you cheated on me FIRST" as a justification. And as a human being I GET THAT! On both ends!

But if the woman gets pregnant... and the child ends up with a man who's NOT it's father and a father who it doesn't know or wants no part of it to avoid what he sees as a lying, cheating ass, wh*re (bcuz that's how he'll see her) then how far is that TO THE CHILD?

And most importantly...

If YOU we're that child who would you blame for going up with a father?

If a woman knows she can get pregnant if she cheats and understands the consequences of that scenario does she a have a RIGHT to complain about the struggle?

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7/28/2017 10:39:22 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
4uijack
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Mutha F**ka, if you would choose the proper words and spelling, someone might answer your rediculous question!!!

Illiterate bastard!!!

7/28/2017 10:39:36 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

spotforusername
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Many children are reared without one or both parents and it has nothing to do with infidelity. They are separate issues that are often intertwined but not always. To say so is a grave overreach.

7/28/2017 10:42:08 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
I've noticed in many cases of cheating couples where the woman had another man's child

nigga issues
lol

7/28/2017 10:42:43 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
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Quote from spotforusername:
Many children are reared without one or both parents and it has nothing to do with infidelity. They are separate issues that are often intertwined but not always. To say so is a grave overreach.


Fat girl please don't talk with your mouth full.

7/28/2017 10:54:32 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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The only thing fair to ANY child is that it's parents do the best they can to provide for the child, as there are NO SELFLESS reasons to bring children into this world.

7/28/2017 11:04:36 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
4uijack
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
nigga issues
lol




7/28/2017 11:09:16 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
uncle_bulgaria
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DR. it looks like you accidentally turned on BOLD half way through your post, sticky keyboard?

7/28/2017 12:28:34 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

kandykayn
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You make it seem like a man cannot father a child while cheating as well.
And the consequences of the couple's income intertwined into the mistresses hands for the next 18 years.

Just don't cheat period.

7/28/2017 1:21:47 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from spotforusername:
Many children are reared without one or both parents and it has nothing to do with infidelity. They are separate issues that are often intertwined but not always. To say so is a grave overreach.


Check this out... YOU'RE RIGHT!!!

But this isn't about ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES KIDS ARE RAISED BY ONE OR NEITHER PARENT! So by changing or twisting the scenario into something TOTALLY different diverts the attention off the subject. True or False?

Parent get killed unfortunately in many different ways, women get raped unfortunately and have the kid, etc. But I'm NOT talking about parents dying, getting rape, kidnapped, lost or amnesia after a hit on the head.

I gave a SPECIFIC scenario in DETAIL about a couples cheating on each other and the result of CHEATING and nothing else. Now that I've clarified what it's SPECIFICALLY about and what it's NOT about can we continue with that understand??

7/28/2017 1:29:31 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from xman379:
The only thing fair to ANY child is that it's parents do the best they can to provide for the child, as there are NO SELFLESS reasons to bring children into this world.


Ok ok, true true!

But wouldn't the "Best Thing" for the child is NOT TO HAVE IT UNDER F**KED UP CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE FIRST PLACE??

See it's only AFTER THE FACT that ppl who f**k these children's lives up start talking about what's best for the child. They don't give a rats a** about that child during conception when they're cheating or getting revenge. True or false??!

7/28/2017 3:05:26 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
4uijack
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Stop f**kin' around wit ghetto niggas!!!!

7/28/2017 3:22:53 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

bosss_babe
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Wut up jack?

7/28/2017 3:33:36 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Ok ok, true true!

But wouldn't the "Best Thing" for the child is NOT TO HAVE IT UNDER F**KED UP CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE FIRST PLACE??

See it's only AFTER THE FACT that ppl who f**k these children's lives up start talking about what's best for the child. They don't give a rats a** about that child during conception when they're cheating or getting revenge. True or false??!


This is probably true in most such cases.

I'd say ANY parents who have NOT COMPLETELY planned and prepared for children obviously put little thought into it.

Completely planned and prepared means, having savings to provide for the child/children BEFORE the child/children are conceived. Knowing what and how the child/children will be educated.

MOST parents DON'T think about all of that during the time if conception. Doesn't necessarily make them bad people, just makes them typical, selfish humans.

Selfishness is natural and can be difficult to suppress.

7/28/2017 5:43:02 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Not like a women is trying to get pregnant on purpose while she's cheating when they both should have use protection, u can't predict that and it's alot of father's stepping up and taking care of kids not even theres

7/28/2017 5:53:14 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
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Quote from bosss_babe:
Wut up jack?


Hey babydoll!

7/28/2017 6:21:16 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

bosss_babe
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hi beb

7/28/2017 6:35:39 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
I've noticed in many cases of cheating couples where the woman had another man's child the women are saying... Well you cheated on me FIRST" as a justification. And as a human being I GET THAT! On both ends!

But if the woman gets pregnant... and the child ends up with a man who's NOT it's father and a father who it doesn't know or wants no part of it to avoid what he sees as a lying, cheating ass, wh*re (bcuz that's how he'll see her) then how far is that TO THE CHILD?

And most importantly...

If YOU we're that child who would you blame for going up with a father?

If a woman knows she can get pregnant if she cheats and understands the consequences of that scenario does she a have a RIGHT to complain about the struggle?


Are you asking because you are the product of such a situation?.. or you are just making shit up?

My Sister and I are both adopted (we are not related through DNA). She was the product of a affair, and has older and younger siblings. Her bio mother got back together with her husband and gave my Sis up for adoption.. Best thing they could have done. Only idiot baby mama's and baby daddies do talk like you do.

7/28/2017 11:28:51 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
I've noticed in many cases of cheating couples where the woman had another man's child the women are saying... Well you cheated on me FIRST" as a justification. And as a human being I GET THAT! On both ends!

But if the woman gets pregnant... and the child ends up with a man who's NOT it's father and a father who it doesn't know or wants no part of it to avoid what he sees as a lying, cheating ass, wh*re (bcuz that's how he'll see her) then how far is that TO THE CHILD?

And most importantly...

If YOU we're that child who would you blame for going up with a father?

If a woman knows she can get pregnant if she cheats and understands the consequences of that scenario does she a have a RIGHT to complain about the struggle?
Of course she doesn't have a right to complain.

That won't stop her from complaining, since that is what women are good at:

Getting knocked up
Lying
Cheating
&
B*tching

7/29/2017 2:14:49 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from 4uijack:
Stop f**kin' around wit ghetto niggas!!!!

I know right

7/29/2017 1:35:05 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
I've noticed in many cases of cheating couples where the woman had another man's child the women are saying... Well you cheated on me FIRST" as a justification. And as a human being I GET THAT! On both ends!

But if the woman gets pregnant... and the child ends up with a man who's NOT it's father and a father who it doesn't know or wants no part of it to avoid what he sees as a lying, cheating ass, wh*re (bcuz that's how he'll see her) then how far is that TO THE CHILD?

And most importantly...

If YOU we're that child who would you blame for going up with a father?

If a woman knows she can get pregnant if she cheats and understands the consequences of that scenario does she a have a RIGHT to complain about the struggle?


Gross gross gross

"Well you cheated on me first" is a very poor justification for cheating on someone. They need to own their own immoral choice.

Of course none of this is the kids fault, you know that. I can't imagine anyone would say it is!

It's the mother's fault all the way around. She has no justifiable excuses for any aspect of this situation as far as I'm concerned.

7/29/2017 1:50:52 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

fairymaiden
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Quote from illan615:
Are you asking because you are the product of such a situation?.. or you are just making shit up?

My Sister and I are both adopted (we are not related through DNA). She was the product of a affair, and has older and younger siblings. Her bio mother got back together with her husband and gave my Sis up for adoption.. Best thing they could have done. Only idiot baby mama's and baby daddies do talk like you do.


What a sad situation. You say giving the baby up for adoption is the best thing they could have done and maybe it is, but I don't know. I guess it depends on how the husband would have felt raising a child as his own that was the by-product of his wife's affair. Some men do have the capacity to rise above that, it's done all the time, but if the husband would have treated the child poorly then it's not a good idea.

It seems kind of selfish to me though that the woman would get back together with her husband knowing that in order to do so she'd have to give the baby up for adoption. The baby would like to be with its' real mother I'm sure and then it's possible the kid grows up all f**ked up.

All this cheatin' just to have sex with someone new... people just don't give a damn who they hurt.

7/29/2017 2:42:31 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from fairymaiden:
What a sad situation. You say giving the baby up for adoption is the best thing they could have done and maybe it is, but I don't know. I guess it depends on how the husband would have felt raising a child as his own that was the by-product of his wife's affair. Some men do have the capacity to rise above that, it's done all the time, but if the husband would have treated the child poorly then it's not a good idea.

It seems kind of selfish to me though that the woman would get back together with her husband knowing that in order to do so she'd have to give the baby up for adoption. The baby would like to be with its' real mother I'm sure and then it's possible the kid grows up all f**ked up.

All this cheatin' just to have sex with someone new... people just don't give a damn who they hurt.
Men, that are willing to pay for a child and raise it when their wife is a cheating slutbag wh*re, are men with no self-respect or balls to hold said slut accountable for her bad decision.

They are commonly referred to as "Captain Bootlick-Save-A-Hoe the Third", around these parts, milady....

7/30/2017 5:18:42 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

sadlsticsienna
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That's a jackass thing to do, to make the woman give the kid up for adoption.

Either forgive her or leave her, don't fvck that child's life up for your own sake.
Have to remember the child is half the woman's to, not 100% from the other guy.

7/30/2017 11:50:00 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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I'm going to ignore all the race-baiting and other side distractions some are trying to insert in this, and get back to answering the very logical and worthy main question:

If a woman knows she can get pregnant if she cheats and understands the consequences of that scenario does she a have a RIGHT to complain about the struggle?


My answer is, technically yes, in that we are Americans, and have the RIGHT to whine and fuss about anything and everything.

But in the sense that I think dr asked it, the answer is no, as far as I'm concerned.
I am firmly committed to the basic American principle, that each person is responsible for their own decisions AND their consequences, to the degree that they control them.

The thing about "the degree that they control them" is very important.

So. If I come across someone, male or female, who is whining about how hard their life is, because they decided to screw around carelessly even, if not especially because they did it as an immature act of revenge, I wont sympathize with them even a tiny bit. The old saying "you made your bed, you sleep in it" fits pretty well.

Important side thing: the child should never have to suffer for the bad decisions of their parent, but we know that they inevitably will.



[Edited 7/30/2017 11:50:42 AM ]

7/30/2017 12:03:47 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

pickygirl72
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If the woman is going to cheat she needs to be on birth control or have the guy wear a rubber. Come on girls be smart!! We know the guy we are cheating with will not divorce his wife for us!! So do not stupid.

7/30/2017 2:06:58 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from pickygirl72:
If the woman is going to cheat she needs to be on birth control or have the guy wear a rubber. Come on girls be smart!! We know the guy we are cheating with will not divorce his wife for us!! So do not stupid.
Yes, because God FORBID a WOMAN should advise other WOMEN to NOT be a WH*RE.....

7/30/2017 3:54:30 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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8/1/2017 9:45:52 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

bookwormtobutte
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Well I don't quite understand the question you're asking.
But I know in New Mexico if a man and woman are married and the woman gets pregnant and has the baby, if the husband signs the birth certificate saying he's the father, but then later finds out that she cheated and the child isn't his, he's still responsible for paying child support for that child. Even if she leaves him to be with the biological child's father!
Now that is just beyond WRONG, talk about pouring salt on an open wound!!

And I know women do that here all the time, I've dated serval men who say their exes did that to them. But then again the men around here seem to have a weakness for the crazy ones (and there are tons of crazy ones here), always trying to be "Captain Save a Ho", then are all shocked when she F**** up their life

8/1/2017 11:41:49 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

mylegsarecold
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Quote from enigmaathand:
Men, that are willing to pay for a child and raise it when their wife is a cheating slutbag wh*re, are men with no self-respect or balls to hold said slut accountable for her bad decision.

They are commonly referred to as "Captain Bootlick-Save-A-Hoe the Third", around these parts, milady....

Why is he not called "Captain Save-a-child"?

He is taking care of the child, not the cheating wife.


Or is it your assertion here that "real men" are not supposed to care about children?
Explain how having nothing to do with the child holds her accountable?
If she is truly irresponsible then she isn't taking care of the child either.

Maybe you would also advocate killing the child to teach her a lesson.
If that were legal would that be a good solution from your viewpoint?

8/1/2017 9:41:45 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from bookwormtobutte:
Well I don't quite understand the question you're asking.
But I know in New Mexico if a man and woman are married and the woman gets pregnant and has the baby, if the husband signs the birth certificate saying he's the father, but then later finds out that she cheated and the child isn't his, he's still responsible for paying child support for that child. Even if she leaves him to be with the biological child's father!
Now that is just beyond WRONG, talk about pouring salt on an open wound!!

And I know women do that here all the time, I've dated serval men who say their exes did that to them. But then again the men around here seem to have a weakness for the crazy ones (and there are tons of crazy ones here), always trying to be "Captain Save a Ho", then are all shocked when she F**** up their life
Iowa is the ONLY state that overturns child support orders, for fathers that get DNA tests done to prove they are NOT the father(and that man can even press Fraud charges against the woman, which is a criminal charge).

Every other state is just like New Mexico: Child Support is nothing but a legal form of male slavery with a secondary purpose of keeping the state tax budget balanced.

8/1/2017 9:46:01 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
Why is he not called "Captain Save-a-child"?

He is taking care of the child, not the cheating wife.


Or is it your assertion here that "real men" are not supposed to care about children?
Explain how having nothing to do with the child holds her accountable?
If she is truly irresponsible then she isn't taking care of the child either.

Maybe you would also advocate killing the child to teach her a lesson.
If that were legal would that be a good solution from your viewpoint?
A self-respecting man, with NO biological ties to that child is perfectly fine with dumping the cheating wh*re and her bastard brat. I would leave them both in the dust for dead. She made her bed and chose to lie in it with whomever fit her "flavor of the month", so let her go find that sperm donor and rake him over the coals with a child support order.

If I had MY CHOICE, she would be charged with "Adultery", and thrown in jail, but unfortunately, Ohio repealed our Adultery laws.

Used to be a 2nd Degree Misdemeanor, punishment of up to a $750 fine + court costs and/or up to 90 days in jail.

8/1/2017 11:33:31 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

lucky_1million
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
If a woman knows she can get pregnant if she cheats and understands the consequences of that scenario



Ya know... I've always thought that women were a little more responsible in the area of sexual relationships and more likely to stay loyal to one partner than a man would because there are more things to consider like an unwanted pregnancy.

I was cheated on while married. I would never consider "revenge" cheating.

Divorce was the answer.

8/2/2017 9:04:30 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
4uijack
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Where you at, n**ger? I'm still waiting on your proof!!!!




Didn't think so, ya f*ggott c*cksucker!!!


YEEEEAAAHHH BOIIII!!!

8/2/2017 11:31:23 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from enigmaathand:
Iowa is the ONLY state that overturns child support orders, for fathers that get DNA tests done to prove they are NOT the father(and that man can even press Fraud charges against the woman, which is a criminal charge).

Every other state is just like New Mexico: Child Support is nothing but a legal form of male slavery with a secondary purpose of keeping the state tax budget balanced.


In MOST states, the child support laws are actually unconstitutional, because the Dept of child support enforcement in most states operate for pecuniary interests, which is prohibited for govt agencies and departments.

In other words (for those who don't understand) in most states the DCSE operates for the sole purpose of getting and maintaining the federal funding they all get, which is based of collection efficiency. If a DCSE's collections are less than it's expenses it risks losing federal funding.

I have a child support order. I was facing jail time a few years ago when I was unemployed. I did some legal studying (which is how I learne the above info) and during that time, my lawyer told me that the welfare system for single mothers/parents is basically a legalized EXTORTION/loansharking racket. The custodial parent receives loans from the government in the form of SNAP/WIC and TANF benefits and the non custodial parent must repay the loan in FULL, even if (usually HE) or she doesn't even know the custodial parent is receiving any welfare benefits.

Also, my lawyer told me that my kegalr defense was sound and good, but that no judge would allow me to win with it because it would set a legal precedent that would make child support collection virtually impossible in MOST cases, at least in my state.

In VA, DCSE notifies both parties in the child support case that the department does NOT represent either party nor the child, but the department.

It's all a big extortion racket.



[Edited 8/2/2017 11:31:46 AM ]

8/2/2017 12:24:49 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

mylegsarecold
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It seems very difficult for some people to look at something
from another perspective, especially that of a child.

8/2/2017 12:40:30 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

xman379
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
It seems very difficult for some people to look at something
from another perspective, especially that of a child.


I agree, but are you responding to ME or someone else?

I have stated many times that ALL children are basically VICTIMS of their parents' selfishness, because there are NO SELFLESS reasons to have children. Some parents just do a better job of supporting their children after the fact.

8/2/2017 1:43:47 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

mylegsarecold
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I was thinking more along the line of Enigma when I wrote that.

Having offspring is an integral part of life.
It doesn't have to be done for selfless reasons.

8/2/2017 1:47:08 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
It seems very difficult for some people to look at something
from another perspective, especially that of a child.
The AVERAGE ESTIMATED costs of raising a child from 0-18 is around $262,000.

I'll gladly go have a kid and raise it, if you will gladly give me $262,000 to pay for everything it needs.

8/2/2017 1:50:05 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
I was thinking more along the line of Enigma when I wrote that.

Having offspring is an integral part of life.
It doesn't have to be done for selfless reasons.
Being a cheating, floor-flushing, deceitful, money-grubbing, immoral skank wh*re is NOT integral to life and is NEVER done for "selfless" reasons either....

Focus only on the child, and the wh*re walks away guilt free. "Focus on the child" is nothing more than a deflection tactic so WOMEN don't have to be held fully accountable for their treachery and deceitful slutty, money-grubbing ways...

8/2/2017 1:50:27 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

xman379
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Quote from mylegsarecold:
I was thinking more along the line of Enigma when I wrote that.

Having offspring is an integral part of life.
It doesn't have to be done for selfless reasons.


I'd say having offspring is integral to the survival of a given species of beings, but not necessarily of life in general.

The GREATEST mistake of my life was having a child.

8/2/2017 1:52:14 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from xman379:
In MOST states, the child support laws are actually unconstitutional, because the Dept of child support enforcement in most states operate for pecuniary interests, which is prohibited for govt agencies and departments.

In other words (for those who don't understand) in most states the DCSE operates for the sole purpose of getting and maintaining the federal funding they all get, which is based of collection efficiency. If a DCSE's collections are less than it's expenses it risks losing federal funding.

I have a child support order. I was facing jail time a few years ago when I was unemployed. I did some legal studying (which is how I learne the above info) and during that time, my lawyer told me that the welfare system for single mothers/parents is basically a legalized EXTORTION/loansharking racket. The custodial parent receives loans from the government in the form of SNAP/WIC and TANF benefits and the non custodial parent must repay the loan in FULL, even if (usually HE) or she doesn't even know the custodial parent is receiving any welfare benefits.

Also, my lawyer told me that my kegalr defense was sound and good, but that no judge would allow me to win with it because it would set a legal precedent that would make child support collection virtually impossible in MOST cases, at least in my state.

In VA, DCSE notifies both parties in the child support case that the department does NOT represent either party nor the child, but the department.

It's all a big extortion racket.
Yep. I figured that out, about 11-12 years ago. Got fixed at 25, and imagine that.....

Women haven't wanted me since....

Guess they must love government housing and a free ride paid for by the working tax payers, despite all the b*tching they do about men leaving them with the child.

8/2/2017 1:55:22 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

xman379
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Quote from enigmaathand:
Being a cheating, floor-flushing, deceitful, money-grubbing, immoral skank wh*re is NOT integral to life and is NEVER done for "selfless" reasons either....

Focus only on the child, and the wh*re walks away guilt free. "Focus on the child" is nothing more than a deflection tactic so WOMEN don't have to be held fully accountable for their treachery and deceitful slutty, money-grubbing ways...


MOST single mothers DON'T focus on the child. MOST single mothers focus on THEMSELVES.

If they were TRULY focused on the child, they would have established the best circumstances possible to bring a child into, which is NOT a POVERTY stricken, single parent household. IF that IS the best a single woman can offer a child, she should NOT, for the child's sake, bring a child into the world.

8/2/2017 1:55:51 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from xman379:


The GREATEST mistake of my life was having a child.
See this, ladies? Doesn't it make you feel good? Do you like that men have this attitude towards having children?

Because while most men will never openly admit this, they know its true.

So, ladies, if you don't like men having this attitude, maybe you should ask yourself what caused men to despise having children and who caused that change......

8/2/2017 1:57:27 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from xman379:
MOST single mothers DON'T focus on the child. MOST single mothers focus on THEMSELVES.

If they were TRULY focused on the child, they would have established the best circumstances possible to bring a child into, which is NOT a POVERTY stricken, single parent household. IF that IS the best a single woman can offer a child, she should NOT, for the child's sake, bring a child into the world.
Women being SELFISH!!!??? No WAY!!!! Not from the "fairer" sex.....

Not them....

They would NEVER be SELFISH.....

8/2/2017 6:49:17 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from xman379:
I'd say having offspring is integral to the survival of a given species of beings, but not necessarily of life in general.

The GREATEST mistake of my life was having a child.




Well the greatest thing in my life is my son, he's autistic and I raised him myself he's 16 and will be 17 on Saturday, very smart good at computers and I have no regrets I can tell u some things about his dad but I'm not here to bash him but he knows he's missed out, so that's on him he choose a ready made family and I'm glad he did

8/2/2017 8:45:49 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from xman379:
MOST single mothers DON'T focus on the child. MOST single mothers focus on THEMSELVES.

If they were TRULY focused on the child, they would have established the best circumstances possible to bring a child into, which is NOT a POVERTY stricken, single parent household. IF that IS the best a single woman can offer a child, she should NOT, for the child's sake, bring a child into the world.


I concur!!!

But let's not forget... the circumstances HERE is women cheating out of revenge AND HAVING A CHILD! Thinking it's gonna hurt him but who's REALLY BEING HURT is the child. Being conceived and born under such f**ked up circumstances.

The sad thing is... If he did cheat first THEN she cheated, under the human acceptance of "Fairness" there's a slight, very slight it can be worked out. But producing a child with that other man KILLS ANY CHANCE of that bcuz it changes the whole dynamic.

He's not going to want to be daddy to another man's child she had out of cheating even if HE DID cheat first. He's got to deal with her having EVERY RIGHT too sleep around too. But he's NOT going to feel his punishment should be getting JAMMED UP with another man's kid.

So now she's left to struggle and the child have to suffer like a dog bcuz she brought that child into the middle of grown folks bullshit it had NOTHING to do with. Then these same "single moms" wonder why men are so critical of dating them.

No PBabe!!! I'm not saying it's ALL single moms!!!

But until they find a way of Branding the f**ked up ones who don't give a f**k about the kids they have from the ones who DO the good ones will be subject to the same criticism they all do.

8/2/2017 9:27:01 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from testsignup:
I'm going to ignore all the race-baiting and other side distractions some are trying to insert in this, and get back to answering the very logical and worthy main question:

If a woman knows she can get pregnant if she cheats and understands the consequences of that scenario does she a have a RIGHT to complain about the struggle?


My answer is, technically yes, in that we are Americans, and have the RIGHT to whine and fuss about anything and everything.

But in the sense that I think dr asked it, the answer is no, as far as I'm concerned.
I am firmly committed to the basic American principle, that each person is responsible for their own decisions AND their consequences, to the degree that they control them.

The thing about "the degree that they control them" is very important.

So. If I come across someone, male or female, who is whining about how hard their life is, because they decided to screw around carelessly even, if not especially because they did it as an immature act of revenge, I wont sympathize with them even a tiny bit. The old saying "you made your bed, you sleep in it" fits pretty well.

Important side thing: the child should never have to suffer for the bad decisions of their parent, but we know that they inevitably will.




8/3/2017 4:49:06 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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People are like rodents, especially the black ones lol.
Always breeding
atleast the first world ones can afford it.
Should see how bad 3rd world is


8/3/2017 1:21:35 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

_purdibirdi_
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
nigga issues
lol






8/3/2017 6:01:08 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
4uijack
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Where you at, BOII?? Hey n**ger, you got dat proof yet???

Didn't think so, ya f*ggott c*cksucker!!!

8/4/2017 7:15:14 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
4uijack
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Still waitin', nigga!!!!!!

8/5/2017 4:35:22 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from _purdibirdi_:



It's true. Always happens with blacks and low ses.

8/5/2017 4:41:44 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  
4uijack
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Yo Yo Yo, nigga????? watup??? PROOFFFFFFFF???????????? bootlip!!!!


YEAH BOOIII!!!!!!!

8/6/2017 4:28:56 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from lucky_1million:
Ya know... I've always thought that women were a little more responsible in the area of sexual relationships and more likely to stay loyal to one partner than a man would because there are more things to consider like an unwanted pregnancy.

I was cheated on while married. I would never consider "revenge" cheating.

Divorce was the answer.


Hey Lucky!!!

You always speak on these matters with great logic!

Somebody made a point earlier (I think it was candy) that a man can father a child when cheating too right? The ONLY differences is...

1. HE'S RESPONSIBLE TOO for the mistake of having a child he didn't want to!

2. He just legally agreed to sign his life over to that woman he impregnated with DANA testing.

3. And she IS GOING TO PUNISH HIM TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW if he becomes rebellious and buck back against her might.

But he's NOT asking, expecting or trying to emotionally manipulate the woman he cheated on to be a mother to his child. So a man isn't FREE of consequence in this, his consequences are just mostly different.

8/6/2017 4:31:10 PM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

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Quote from autisticsienna:
It's true. Always happens with blacks and low ses.


FYI retard???? This couple was white as milk. And it's time to take your meds.

8/7/2017 6:31:04 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

sadlsticsienna
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
FYI retard???? This couple was white as milk. And it's time to take your meds.

Probably becaus they're in niggaland

8/7/2017 7:07:21 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Probably becaus they're in niggaland
Stop being racist for 5 minutes and legitimately debate the topic.

8/7/2017 7:26:03 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

sadlsticsienna
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Stop being racist for 5 minutes and legitimately debate the topic.

Fine, exposure to low SES black people would make white people act like apes too

Yur welcome

8/7/2017 7:27:58 AM A Cheating Question pt. 1  

enigmaathand
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Quote from sadlsticsienna:
Fine, exposure to low SES black people would make white people act like apes too

Yur welcome
You did just fine, UNTIL the "ape" part.....