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higgy
are you talking about the same Ron Paul that was running for president in 2008 the set at the presidential debates I don't support the 911 truthers is that the Run Paul you're talking about??
only a complete fool would believe the Ron Paul was not threatened by the powers that be to keep his f****** mouth shut or else.
I guess that makes you a fool huh higgy
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| 6/17/2015 11:16:22 AM |
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higgy51
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higgy
are you talking about the same Ron Paul that was running for president in 2008 the set at the presidential debates I don't support the 911 truthers is that the Run Paul you're talking about??
only a complete fool would believe the Ron Paul was not threatened by the powers that be to keep his f****** mouth shut or else.
I guess that makes you a fool huh higgy
Hahahaha, don't you EVER read about the person that posts your silly video's?
Let me suggest this, go back to your link and have a read the few lines the uploader wrote!!
I cannot believe that you are that stupid to think it was the Candidate Ron Paul that would make a comment on a conspiracy video...hell, you are dumb!!
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| 6/17/2015 11:24:01 AM |
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57channels
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Cynthia McKinney supports the 911 truth movement and the truthers just like she supports a Palestinian state but guess what ----the perps got rid of her.
the perps couldn't take any chances on anyone in Congress trying to open up the 911 can of worms which would have meant the death penalty or life in prison.
so now in Congress we have nothing but a bunch of Jewish Yes Men serving the interests of the common people--- what up joke
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| 6/17/2015 11:36:31 AM |
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57channels
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o you're talking about the guy that film the gash on the Naudet video that you think was smoke?? that's as idiotic as the idiots that think the nose of the plane coming out of the other tower was gas or smoke.
no video glitches here no fake videos no fake planes---no phony eyewitnesses. you have any questions about the nose in nose out or the gash or the engine on Murray Street or anything else its nothing but smoke.
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| 6/17/2015 12:13:55 PM |
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higgy51
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higgy
o you're talking about the guy that film the gash on the Naudet video that you think was smoke?? that's as idiotic as the idiots that think the nose of the plane coming out of the other tower was gas or smoke.
Yes, it was smoke...and the reason why it stayed there was because the film was STILL. All the other smoke stayed there too.
Yes, the nose out was smoke and debris too. However, you TELL me what it was.
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| 6/17/2015 12:33:01 PM |
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srv63
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You need to look at it again for at the time he shows this wonderful black gap, the video has been STOPPED and NO smoke is blowing!
The black mark disappears because the wind blew the smoke! The still shot was 15 seconds after impact...a mere 15 seconds!
That still shot lasts for some 8 seconds too and in still shots, nothing moves!
I am talking of the wonderful evidence shown by 57, no idea which you are talking about.
From the video that 57channels posted the link to, there are NO STILL SHOTS (therefore you are referring to some other video) and the wind is pushing the big ball of flames and smoke easily towards the left but yet the wind can't push that tiny bit of (supposedly smoke) to the left as well? BULLSHIT.
Also,the wingtips of a plane have no fuel in them so there should be absolutely NO IMPRINT of the wingtips in the building (but there are), much less smoke. 
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| 6/17/2015 12:43:49 PM |
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srv63
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Love the way you CT people cannot agree with each other!
Also love the comment of you have no idea what bent the top of the poles and you aren't interested either. That is brilliant!
Just maybe the planes wings bent them as they hit those poles?
Come on srv, what could have bent those poles? Maybe someone snuck up there the night before and bent them ready for the hoax...yes, that is the logical thought (of conspiracy nutcases!!)
I really couldn't care less how they bent the poles, the bending of the poles is just to make the story believable. I only care about how the poles came down and PROOF of the EVIDENCE shows that HEAT was used at the broken poles bases to bring down the poles whether by low level thermite or from the most possible a oxygen/acetylene cutting rig i don't know but it WAS NOT a plane. One more point scored for the truthers
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srv63
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Yes, it was smoke...and the reason why it stayed there was because the film was STILL. All the other smoke stayed there too.
Yes, the nose out was smoke and debris too. However, you TELL me what it was.
I bet that nose cone protruding thru the exit hole was the smoothest, most precise smoke made image of a c*ckpit in history
If you really buy that horseshit, then your a bumbling twit
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| 6/17/2015 1:01:23 PM |
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russell57
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9/11 truth has a history of shifting positions according to the debunking 'climate'.
First they said the buildings were demolished with explosives, and we said 'but what about the lack of noise?' Then it became Thermite to account for the lack of sound, and 9/11 truth claimed to have found residue of thermite to support their claim. The testing was not up to standard and subsequent tests have shown the claim to be false. To this day there is still no evidence for the controlled demolition hypothesis, therefore the original hypothesis stands.
NOTHING you have said here makes any sense...THE LACK OF NOISE WAS IN REGARDS TO THE PENTAGON..that was hit by a missle..NOT A PLANE...the evidence and witness's do not support that claim..THERMITE IS AN EXPLOSIVE..ITS QUITE LOUD...
THE THERMITE CONCLUSION IS SOLID AS A ROCK..confirmed by scientists from America..and other parts of the world...i GUESS YOU DONT KNOW THAT..
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They tried to discredit Silverstein and somehow make him culpable (you may note Fun still pushing this one), however, that one didn't fly as he had no power to direct operations and there is no physical evidence to support any claims against Silverstein. Insurance investigations did not uncover any misdeeds by Silverstein, so that doesn't fly.
MUSIC:
CROOKED DISHONEST JEWS WITH JEW LAWYERS AND JEW JUDGES CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER...EVEN IF ITS OVE 3,000 PEOPLE..AND HOODWINKING AN ENTIRE NATION...
THIS IS THE JEWDICIAL JUST-US SYSTEM CREATED AS PER THE "PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION" come to fruit in America..
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By this point 9/11 truth was clearly losing relevance and many former adherents left and rejected the movement owing to a lack of evidence. However, there is still a hardcore following that while being quite vociferous, seem to be quite irrational in their premises and quite selective in their choice of evidence.
MUSIC:
WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR NEWS...THE ONION? THE MOVEMENT IS INCREASING LEAPS AND BOUNDS..Everything you write is a pile of KOL NIDRE lies..WHO DO YOU THINK YOUR FOOLING...You need to move your brainwashed mind into reality fella. You need to learn to see with your mind what your eyes see...THE BUILDINGS EXPLODED..AND WERE WIRED PROFESSIONALLY FOR CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
either THESE JEWS THINK WERE TOO STUPID TO NOTICE
OR THESE JEWS ARE HAUGHTY ENOUGH TO NOT CARE IF WE KNOW..
THEIR EGO WILL BRING THEM DOWN LIKE A GRANITE ROCK..IT ALWAYS HAS OVER AND OVER..and yet they never learn..
HOW MANY NATIONS HAVE KICKED OUT THE JEWS? HUNDREDS IN HISTORY..WASNT IT?
TRY AGAIN..NO CIGAR FOR JOU..!
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This is only a 'potted' history of the 9/11 truth movement and there are as many factions within this movement as one would expect to find in any cultish group. Despite the hardcore nutters left in the movement and the scammers who feed them, 9/11 truth is fading owing to the realisation that they have no evidence to build the prima facie case for the new investigation they desire.
The 9/11 truth posts these days are just the ravings of lunatics who have little experience in the interpretation of evidence, or how to build a logical and coherent hypothesis.
MUSIC:
THE 9/11 MOVEMENT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY..BETTER GET USED TO IT..
ITS GROWING LEAPS AND BOUNDS DAILY..JOINED BY MANY ALL AROUND THE WORLD..WHO ALSO HAVE "JEWISH PEST" PROBLEMS.
ZECHARIAH 12 tells us that the nations of the world...will destroy your little global gov...I cant waint..
REVELATION 11:8, 17:1, 17:18, 18:10, 18:2-3, 18::23-24 PROVES WHO THE CULPRITS ARE...THOSE WHO LIVE IN JERUSALEM..WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE SLAIN OF THE EARTH..THOSE WHO ARE BEHIND ALL WARS..and those people..as history proves..are the Jews.
YOU HATE THE BIBLE..BECAUSE THESE SCRIPTURES WERE WRITTEN 2000 YEARS AGO..AND THEY NAILED YOU...THEY NAILED YOU AS THE CULPRITS...THOSE WHO SLAIN THE PEOPLES OF THE EARTH
That is why THIS GENERATIONAL CABAL OF MURDERERS AND THEIVES murder the people of the book..religious DIASPORA Jews...Muslims - SONS OF ISHMAEL..AND THE CHRISTIANS..THE ISRAEL OF GOD UNDER THE NEW COVENANT where there are no longer 12 tribes..but one..as per EZEKIEL DRY BONES prophecy...the ISRAEL OF GOD..THE Christians who follow THE NEW COVENANT THAT WAS PROPHESIED TO COME SINCE THE BOOK OF GENESIS.
BOOK OF AMOS..SHOWING THE END OF THE 12 TRIBES OF THE ISRAEL OF GOD..AND A NEW COVENANT TO BEGIN..WITH A REMNANT OF JACOB..WHO BEGAT CHRISTIANDOM...ROMANS 11:5..
YOU CANNOT BEHAVE THAT WAY..AND EXPECT NO ONE TO FIGHT BACK
THAT DAY IS COME...YOUR PARTY IS OVER...GOD WILL INTERVENE..YOU CANNOT FIGHT GOD.
***In the Old Testament..there was a TEMPLE OF GOD where the Holy Spirit dwelled..and guided the scribes...
TODAY..THE TEMPLE OF GOD IS WITHIN EACH CHRISTIAN AND THE ONLY PEOPLE ON THE PLANET THAT CAN INTERPRET SCRIPTURES..ARE TRUE CHRISTIANS.
NO JEWISH RABBI CAN LEARN ONE THING THAT COMES FROM THE BIBLE..He does not have the spiritual connection with God..He is NOT a TEMPLE..nor does he HAVE a TEMPLE..
They make up all kinds of crap AND stuck their crazy ravings in a book called BABYLON TALMUD...They did this because of their DISCONNECTION WITH GOD due to DISOBEDIENCE...and they are still GREATLY DISOBEDIENT TODAY..and have made themselves into their own god..and messiah..which is non-scriptural to do..there for..ITS ANTI CHRIST..
Yea yea yea..I know you hate hearing this..THE TRUTH..but someone needs to tell you for your own sake..GET OUT OF BABYLON...
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| 6/17/2015 1:29:28 PM |
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higgy51
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From the video that 57channels posted the link to, there are NO STILL SHOTS (therefore you are referring to some other video) and the wind is pushing the big ball of flames and smoke easily towards the left but yet the wind can't push that tiny bit of (supposedly smoke) to the left as well? BULLSHIT.
Also,the wingtips of a plane have no fuel in them so there should be absolutely NO IMPRINT of the wingtips in the building (but there are), much less smoke.
My oh my...please look at the link that 57 posted, it is here below and please do watch it, especially at around 20 seconds and you will see that for a full 8 seconds, the smoke is not moving, the video is not moving therefore one must think LOGICALLY, the f**king video has stopped!!
This you tube is only a minute long......but more proof to show how video fakery proves no fkn plane hit the north tower. The Naudet brothers or Jules Naudet was hired to be there at that time to film the explosion, then added some image of some fuzzy stupid a** plane. Close to 8 oclock and no traffic either??? Like the whole block was blocked off so the Naudet brothers could film the fireball....and go back and add the fake plane but they goofed again when they added the black gash???? They must think were all a bunch of sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCcByBZev7o
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| 6/17/2015 1:39:09 PM |
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higgy51
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I really couldn't care less how they bent the poles, the bending of the poles is just to make the story believable. I only care about how the poles came down and PROOF of the EVIDENCE shows that HEAT was used at the broken poles bases to bring down the poles whether by low level thermite or from the most possible a oxygen/acetylene cutting rig i don't know but it WAS NOT a plane. One more point scored for the truthers
Oh wait, you can categorically state that they poles were cut yet you have no idea how they were bent? Just that they were bent to add credence to the hoax? Wonderful.
Now we see it was either thermite or a blow torch sort of thing.
Someone went round all of the five light poles with an oxygen cutter, cut half of them and hoped that wind or a vibration wouldn't bring them down...and this was done before someone climbed up the poles to bend them...with what? His bare hands?
Come on srv, how did they bend the poles? You must have an answer to that. After all, you thruthers have the logical brains, so how did they bend those poles and what equipment did they use to do it?
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| 6/17/2015 1:47:00 PM |
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57channels
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I got a question here for the 3 kiddies that really is very simple to answer. So hopefully they will answer this simple question to put everything about 9-11 in true perspective. Now when I talk about opening up the 9-11 can of worms I am talking about weeks and weeks of questions [ pertinent questions ] about everything before, during and after 9-11.
If the 9-11 can of worms really got opened up with a real scientific and engineering and all of the scholars, pilots, veterans, architects, ect.ect. took the witness stand...plus our politicians were just as interested as the experts in the truth:
Would the perps get the Death Penalty, or life in prison for mass murder and High Treason against the people of the USA. Or would they get a slap on the wrist or the case get thrown out of court [ the no evidence spiel blah blah blah ]
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| 6/17/2015 1:49:27 PM |
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higgy51
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I got a question here for the 3 kiddies that really is very simple to answer. So hopefully they will answer this simple question to put everything about 9-11 in true perspective. Now when I talk about opening up the 9-11 can of worms I am talking about weeks and weeks of questions [ pertinent questions ] about everything before, during and after 9-11.
If the 9-11 can of worms really got opened up with a real scientific and engineering and all of the scholars, pilots, veterans, architects, ect.ect. took the witness stand...plus our politicians were just as interested as the experts in the truth:
Would the perps get the Death Penalty, or life in prison for mass murder and High Treason against the people of the USA. Or would they get a slap on the wrist or the case get thrown out of court [ the no evidence spiel blah blah blah ]
Ermmmmm, just what is the question?
Note the ? after asking a question. The "?" makes it a question.
Try ASKING instead of writing total garbage!
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| 6/17/2015 1:53:43 PM |
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higgy51
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I really couldn't care less how they bent the poles, the bending of the poles is just to make the story believable. I only care about how the poles came down and PROOF of the EVIDENCE shows that HEAT was used at the broken poles bases to bring down the poles whether by low level thermite or from the most possible a oxygen/acetylene cutting rig i don't know but it WAS NOT a plane. One more point scored for the truthers
Oh, by the way, you might be intrested in this little bit of information as you try to think how to answer my question of how the poles were bent to make them look like they'd been hit and what they used because it would be IMPOSSIBLE to do it by hand.
Anyway, as you try to wriggle out of it, have a read of this and please take note of the word "FRANGIBLE" won't you?
Russel Pickering's analysis at PentagonResearch.com found that they were 27.66 feet high, made of .188 inch-thick aluminum, 8 inches in diameter at the base and 4.5 inches at the top and topped with 70 pound lampheads. The reason the wings wouldn't be damaged is because the use of a "breakaway style" pole design. As Pickering explains: "this limited damage factor is why the FAA requires these type of poles in the "safety zones" around airports and helipads. They recognize that this type of pole minimizes damage to aircraft." He cited the FAA's rules: "any structure located within 250 feet of runway centerline has to be frangible, which means the structure needs to break away when hit by an aircraft to minimize damages to the aircraft and its pilot."
Please feel free to check out this ruling by going to the FAA website. I am sure that you won't because it totally debunks you doesn't it?
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| 6/17/2015 2:22:58 PM |
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57channels
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from 57channels:
I got a question here for the 3 kiddies that really is very simple to answer. So hopefully they will answer this simple question to put everything about 9-11 in true perspective. Now when I talk about opening up the 9-11 can of worms I am talking about weeks and weeks of questions [ pertinent questions ] about everything before, during and after 9-11.
If the 9-11 can of worms really got opened up with a real scientific and engineering and all of the scholars, pilots, veterans, architects, ect.ect. took the witness stand...plus our politicians were just as interested as the experts in the truth:
Would the perps get the Death Penalty, or life in prison for mass murder and High Treason against the people of the USA. Or would they get a slap on the wrist or the case get thrown out of court [ the no evidence spiel blah blah blah ]????????????????
See the ?????????????? that's the question. When someone starts a sentence with WOULD----its always a question.
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| 6/17/2015 2:51:33 PM |
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higgy51
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from 57channels:
I got a question here for the 3 kiddies that really is very simple to answer. So hopefully they will answer this simple question to put everything about 9-11 in true perspective. Now when I talk about opening up the 9-11 can of worms I am talking about weeks and weeks of questions [ pertinent questions ] about everything before, during and after 9-11.
If the 9-11 can of worms really got opened up with a real scientific and engineering and all of the scholars, pilots, veterans, architects, ect.ect. took the witness stand...plus our politicians were just as interested as the experts in the truth:
Would the perps get the Death Penalty, or life in prison for mass murder and High Treason against the people of the USA. Or would they get a slap on the wrist or the case get thrown out of court [ the no evidence spiel blah blah blah ]????????????????
See the ?????????????? that's the question. When someone starts a sentence with WOULD----its always a question.
In order to charge someone with a crime, you need cast iron evidence. If you only have theories, you ain't got jack shit.
If you truthers think you have ANY REAL evidence - and srv's post above shows you don't have any for ya'll can't even agree with each other - you could take whoever you want to task and court.
Hey, I have a thought, get Sheriff Joe to join you, he's good - oh shit, sorry, his birther shit failed too didn't it?
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| 6/17/2015 3:03:31 PM |
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higgy51
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See the ?????????????? that's the question. When someone starts a sentence with WOULD----its always a question.
Would the real reason for you being so dumb be due to a mental disorder? (A question)
Would the real 57 channels that has a brain please stand up. (Not a question but a request)
Debunked again aren't you?
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| 6/17/2015 3:49:55 PM |
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57channels
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higgy
In order to charge someone with a crime, you need cast iron evidence. If you only have theories, you ain't got jack shit.
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Figured or KNEW Id get the no evidence bullshit from you. Pray tell.......are you getting paid well to spread disinfo?? Oh that's another question. Like fun showed us.......some of them [ stoolies ] cant look in the mirror so they quit their so-called jobs. The 3 kiddies who have been on the boards for 13 years now asking for more proof [ I mean pretending to ask for more proof ] Playing the I need a paycheck game of life
Are your checks signed by Larry Silverstein I bet ole Larry uses an alias huh??
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| 6/17/2015 4:08:35 PM |
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srv63
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I wasn't referring to that link that 57 posted, i was referring to this one that 57 posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miA8Td4oNcY.
Now clean off your glasses and show me smoke coming from the extended wingtip photo-shopped with a black mark.
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| 6/17/2015 4:23:16 PM |
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srv63
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Oh wait, you can categorically state that they poles were cut yet you have no idea how they were bent? Just that they were bent to add credence to the hoax? Wonderful.
Now we see it was either thermite or a blow torch sort of thing.
Someone went round all of the five light poles with an oxygen cutter, cut half of them and hoped that wind or a vibration wouldn't bring them down...and this was done before someone climbed up the poles to bend them...with what? His bare hands?
Come on srv, how did they bend the poles? You must have an answer to that. After all, you thruthers have the logical brains, so how did they bend those poles and what equipment did they use to do it?
Dim-wit, as i stated weeks ago, them poles at their bases CLEARLY show that heat was used to cut them from their bases and then small charges were used to blow them off of their concrete bases AS STATED BEFORE weeks ago. As far as how they got bent, i don't give a damn if your grandma scooted up each of them poles and bent them herself because it's not important. Only important thing is what brought them down and i'm telling you without a doubt that they were cut at the bases with a torch. I have used a torch enough and know damn well what a cut looks like and the discoloration in the metal.You FAIL again shill
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| 6/17/2015 4:45:26 PM |
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srv63
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from 57channels:
I got a question here for the 3 kiddies that really is very simple to answer. So hopefully they will answer this simple question to put everything about 9-11 in true perspective. Now when I talk about opening up the 9-11 can of worms I am talking about weeks and weeks of questions [ pertinent questions ] about everything before, during and after 9-11.
If the 9-11 can of worms really got opened up with a real scientific and engineering and all of the scholars, pilots, veterans, architects, ect.ect. took the witness stand...plus our politicians were just as interested as the experts in the truth:
Would the perps get the Death Penalty, or life in prison for mass murder and High Treason against the people of the USA. Or would they get a slap on the wrist or the case get thrown out of court [ the no evidence spiel blah blah blah ]????????????????
See the ?????????????? that's the question. When someone starts a sentence with WOULD----its always a question.
To answer your question 57, we all know what happened to all of the scumbag bankers that almost put us in ruins in 2008 because of their greed. We the people were forced to bail their sorry asses out. Now all of the greedy bastards owning the biggest banks in the USA have got caught with unethical practices again raping US THE PEOPLE and they have to pay penalties and restitution in the amount of 81 Billion dollars and not one of them slimy pieces of shit even go to jail much less prison.Yep, little slap on that greedy wrist and a free get out of jail card. Justice is a f**kin joke
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| 6/17/2015 5:06:26 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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higgy
In order to charge someone with a crime, you need cast iron evidence. If you only have theories, you ain't got jack shit.
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Figured or KNEW Id get the no evidence bullshit from you. Pray tell.......are you getting paid well to spread disinfo?? Oh that's another question. Like fun showed us.......some of them [ stoolies ] cant look in the mirror so they quit their so-called jobs. The 3 kiddies who have been on the boards for 13 years now asking for more proof [ I mean pretending to ask for more proof ] Playing the I need a paycheck game of life
Are your checks signed by Larry Silverstein I bet ole Larry uses an alias huh??
Well it's true. 9/11 truth cannot produce then evidence to build a prima facie case that would prompt a new investigation. Until they do, all these dumbass questions from 9/11 truth have no meaning.
It's not disinfo.
It's not shill work or any other of your f**king kiddy fantasies, it's simply how the law works.
No tricks or no 'gubmint out to get ya' shit, just simply the legal system, and if you don't like it, it's not Higgy's fault, or my fault.
So grow up Shit for Brains.
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| 6/17/2015 5:07:02 PM |
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class5
Queensland
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Would the real reason for you being so dumb be due to a mental disorder? (A question)
Would the real 57 channels that has a brain please stand up. (Not a question but a request)
Debunked again aren't you?
How can a man of that age be so ignorant of how the world works?
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| 6/17/2015 5:25:58 PM |
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hallucis
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Dim-wit, as i stated weeks ago, them poles at their bases CLEARLY show that heat was used to cut them from their bases and then small charges were used to blow them off of their concrete bases AS STATED BEFORE weeks ago. As far as how they got bent, i don't give a damn if your grandma scooted up each of them poles and bent them herself because it's not important. Only important thing is what brought them down and i'm telling you without a doubt that they were cut at the bases with a torch. I have used a torch enough and know damn well what a cut looks like and the discoloration in the metal.You FAIL again shill
Did it ever cross your mind that the light poles or should I say the one lite pole there is with torch marks was cut bcuz it was damaged?its easier for a maintenance crew to cut it down than to get a socket wrench in there and loosen the bolts. Been there done that.
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| 6/17/2015 5:51:27 PM |
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class5
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Did it ever cross your mind that the light poles or should I say the one lite pole there is with torch marks was cut bcuz it was damaged?its easier for a maintenance crew to cut it down than to get a socket wrench in there and loosen the bolts. Been there done that.
I have demonstrated to these crayon eaters with sources, that the light poles were frangible, but these guys don't acknowledge any source that conflicts with their confirmation bias.
Basically, they're dumber than a bag of rocks. You just have to shake your head and marvel at the depths of stupidity attained by 9/11 truth.
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| 6/17/2015 6:49:31 PM |
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57channels
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hall
Did it ever cross your mind that the light poles or should I say the one lite pole there is with torch marks was cut bcuz it was damaged?its easier for a maintenance crew to cut it down than to get a socket wrench in there and loosen the bolts. Been there done that.
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Just curious, are you saying you think Flight 77 caused the so-called damage to the light pole?? Just checking to see if your IQ is the same as higgy, cl-ass, and tragic
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class5
Queensland
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hall
Did it ever cross your mind that the light poles or should I say the one lite pole there is with torch marks was cut bcuz it was damaged?its easier for a maintenance crew to cut it down than to get a socket wrench in there and loosen the bolts. Been there done that.
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Just curious, are you saying you think Flight 77 caused the so-called damage to the light pole?? Just checking to see if your IQ is the same as higgy, cl-ass, and tragic
You cannot prove the poles weren't knocked down by a plane. Can you? NOPE. That would indicate to an intelligent person that something might be wrong with one's argument. However, that would require a certain amount of intelligence that you will never possess.
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class5
Queensland
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This was posted on ISF (International Skeptics Forum) as a satire of 9/11 truth:
"Osama rhymes with Obama, and President Obama's middle name is Hussein.
- President George Bush (son of George Bush) Bush invaded Iraq after 9/11, but not before invading Afghanistan - two Muslim countries.
- Saddam Hussein was eventually executed during the Bush administration, even though Saddam tried to kill the first George Bush
-Obama ordered Osama bin Laden killed, even though Obama's father and stepfather were both Muslims.
- It must be Zionist Jews.
Is this all a coincidence? Wake up, sheeple!"
It summarises truther 'thinking" (sic) patterns beautifully. The technique above has been employed by the op on numerous occasions.
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Did it ever cross your mind that the light poles or should I say the one lite pole there is with torch marks was cut bcuz it was damaged?its easier for a maintenance crew to cut it down than to get a socket wrench in there and loosen the bolts. Been there done that.
If the pole was already laying on the ground, then what possible reason would you have for cutting the cast aluminum base from the concrete pillar supporting it?
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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This was posted on ISF (International Skeptics Forum) as a satire of 9/11 truth:
"Osama rhymes with Obama, and President Obama's middle name is Hussein.
- President George Bush (son of George Bush) Bush invaded Iraq after 9/11, but not before invading Afghanistan - two Muslim countries.
- Saddam Hussein was eventually executed during the Bush administration, even though Saddam tried to kill the first George Bush
-Obama ordered Osama bin Laden killed, even though Obama's father and stepfather were both Muslims.
- It must be Zionist Jews.
Is this all a coincidence? Wake up, sheeple!"
It summarises truther 'thinking" (sic) patterns beautifully. The technique above has been employed by the op on numerous occasions.
ISP (International Skeptics Forum) or the former (James Randy Foundation) is a website that strives for a more philosophical approach to conspiracy theories than those which rely primarily on a belief system or mere story telling. .. Not to suggest anyone leave Datehookup, after all, like most places, here you enjoy freedom of speech, but may we extend an invitation to SRV, funwith, 57channels, or whomever, to join up at ISP so that they might share their insight or "evidence" so the world can finally witness the "truth". What do ya's say SRV, funwith, 57channels? Care to go main stream? Or is Datehookup your last resort?
Membership at ISP is free. Just like all the other dating sites you've failed at.
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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If the pole was already laying on the ground, then what possible reason would you have for cutting the cast aluminum base from the concrete pillar supporting it?
So that it can more easily be removed. Already explained.
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srv63
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ISP (International Skeptics Forum) or the former (James Randy Foundation) is a website that strives for a more philosophical approach to conspiracy theories than those which rely primarily on a belief system or mere story telling. .. Not to suggest anyone leave Datehookup, after all, like most places, here you enjoy freedom of speech, but may we extend an invitation to SRV, funwith, 57channels, or whomever, to join up at ISP so that they might share their insight or "evidence" so the world can finally witness the "truth". What do ya's say SRV, funwith, 57channels? Care to go main stream? Or is Datehookup your last resort?
Membership at ISP is free. Just like all the other dating sites you've failed at.
So your bird brain along with the blocking sissy b*tch no-class resort to attacking rather than disproving? Very common for a shill
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tragicparrot
Painesville, OH
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So your bird brain along with the blocking sissy b*tch no-class resort to attacking rather than disproving? Very common for a shill
Please explain how have you've been attacked. And whats with the name calling?
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class5
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Please explain how have you've been attacked. And whats with the name calling?
That's all he has and it gets boring really quick.
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class5
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ISP (International Skeptics Forum) or the former (James Randy Foundation) is a website that strives for a more philosophical approach to conspiracy theories than those which rely primarily on a belief system or mere story telling. .. Not to suggest anyone leave Datehookup, after all, like most places, here you enjoy freedom of speech, but may we extend an invitation to SRV, funwith, 57channels, or whomever, to join up at ISP so that they might share their insight or "evidence" so the world can finally witness the "truth". What do ya's say SRV, funwith, 57channels? Care to go main stream? Or is Datehookup your last resort?
Membership at ISP is free. Just like all the other dating sites you've failed at.
These guys wouldn't have the stones for that. I always ask truthers to go there but they are too frightened as a rule.
57 & SRV would be banned on the first day because they don't know how to act like adults and fun would be too frightened.
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higgy51
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As far as how they got bent, i don't give a damn if your grandma scooted up each of them poles and bent them herself because it's not important.
Only important thing is what brought them down and i'm telling you without a doubt that they were cut at the bases with a torch. I have used a torch enough and know damn well what a cut looks like and the discoloration in the metal.You FAIL again shill
But this is where you Truthers/Conspiracy nutcases go wrong, it IS important to explain to the logical amongst us HOW they got bent, because they did get bent didn't they?
Yes, we do know they were cut by a torch, we know that...and we know the reason that has already been explained to you.
Not all the posts were knowcked clean out of the ground. One or two (or 3 U dunno) had to be cut from their base so they could be removed, so a torch had to be used to perform that feat.
Simple explanation isn't it? Logical too....not far fetched like your light posts were bent the night before or cut the night before and explosives planted.
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class5
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But this is where you Truthers/Conspiracy nutcases go wrong, it IS important to explain to the logical amongst us HOW they got bent, because they did get bent didn't they?
Yes, we do know they were cut by a torch, we know that...and we know the reason that has already been explained to you.
Not all the posts were knowcked clean out of the ground. One or two (or 3 U dunno) had to be cut from their base so they could be removed, so a torch had to be used to perform that feat.
Simple explanation isn't it? Logical too....not far fetched like your light posts were bent the night before or cut the night before and explosives planted.
Somewhat similar to Fun's proof of thermite cutters being just being a result of the clean up.
Why can't these guys ever look for a rational explanation before jumping to ridiculous conclusions? It denotes a lack of education AND intelligence.
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class5
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Please explain how have you've been attacked. And whats with the name calling?
Hypocrisy. He's good at it.
Hey SRV you've been unblocked for a while so you must have me blocked. If so, why are you whinging like a little child?
I love these douchebags.
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higgy51
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I wasn't referring to that link that 57 posted, i was referring to this one that 57 posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miA8Td4oNcY.
Now clean off your glasses and show me smoke coming from the extended wingtip photo-shopped with a black mark.
Wow, you saw ONE SECOND of it, just ONE SECOND and you conclude that they somehow photo-shopped a black mark on the video.
Next time, please be more specific on which video's you are discussing, maybe even quote them. I was referring to the latest one he posted.
Now, go to the one he most recently posted and you will see that the black mark has gone and why? Because smoke blows away.
If you need proof that smoke can go the other way, look at your video and at 1.20 look at the smoke on the right hand side of the building, it goes ROUND the corner of the building.
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class5
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Like Tragic Parrot, I would like to extend an invitation to all the truthers on here to join ISF. One does not have to leave DH (Hell, I'm on about seven forum sites at any given time), but ISF offers a wealth of information from those in the various fields regarding 9/11 and it would be well worth joining if you are truly interested in the subject.
You will just have to conduct yourselves in an adult fashion, but it is worth it for the information.
Oh, the link.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=64
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higgy51
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Did it ever cross your mind that the light poles or should I say the one lite pole there is with torch marks was cut bcuz it was damaged?its easier for a maintenance crew to cut it down than to get a socket wrench in there and loosen the bolts. Been there done that.
No, because that needs a logical train of thought, we ain't dealing with logical thinking people here.
Srv really believes that no planes flew that day, seriously.
He doesn't know how the light poles got bent, he doesn't care, it isn't important (because he can't explain it, that is why it isn't important).
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class5
Queensland
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Wow, you saw ONE SECOND of it, just ONE SECOND and you conclude that they somehow photo-shopped a black mark on the video.
Next time, please be more specific on which video's you are discussing, maybe even quote them. I was referring to the latest one he posted.
Now, go to the one he most recently posted and you will see that the black mark has gone and why? Because smoke blows away.
If you need proof that smoke can go the other way, look at your video and at 1.20 look at the smoke on the right hand side of the building, it goes ROUND the corner of the building.
What is this 'black mark' supposed to represent?
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higgy51
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higgy
In order to charge someone with a crime, you need cast iron evidence. If you only have theories, you ain't got jack shit.
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Figured or KNEW Id get the no evidence bullshit from you. Pray tell.......are you getting paid well to spread disinfo?? Oh that's another question. Like fun showed us.......some of them [ stoolies ] cant look in the mirror so they quit their so-called jobs. The 3 kiddies who have been on the boards for 13 years now asking for more proof [ I mean pretending to ask for more proof ] Playing the I need a paycheck game of life
Are your checks signed by Larry Silverstein I bet ole Larry uses an alias huh??
And we all knew that would be your response too.
Only a total idiot would even think anyone would get paid to post stuff, only No Planers have that illogical train of thought.
Hey 57? Do you think that every-time a sentence begins with WOULD is a question? 
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higgy51
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What is this 'black mark' supposed to represent?
The right wing of the plane.
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class5
Queensland
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The right wing of the plane.
Thanks. So they screwed up the photo-shopping so some inbred on the internet would find it and expose their nefarious plans.
I wonder on what planet they think this crap makes sense?
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higgy51
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Exactly...I wonder if I can find the rest of that video. I am sure it will be around and not stop within ONE SECOND of showing the supposed black mark.
That will be my task after I sleep 
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class5
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Exactly...I wonder if I can find the rest of that video. I am sure it will be around and not stop within ONE SECOND of showing the supposed black mark.
That will be my task after I sleep
See ya mate!
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srv63
Baytown, TX
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Hypocrisy. He's good at it.
Hey SRV you've been unblocked for a while so you must have me blocked. If so, why are you whinging like a little child?
I love these douchebags.
Like all of the lies you spew on this forum, your a LIAR saying you have unblocked me for awhile. This morning is the first time your ignorant a** has shown up so come up with some more bullshit shill.Lets see how long you last before you go into hiding again. Are you ready to answer the 5 questions yet so that the class can finally move on?
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srv63
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Thanks. So they screwed up the photo-shopping so some inbred on the internet would find it and expose their nefarious plans.
I wonder on what planet they think this crap makes sense?
They screwed up on the photo shop by making flight 175's c*ckpit protrude completely thru the south tower but only a dim-wit like a shill would try to explain it away by saying that PERFECT SMOOTH IMAGE of the protruding c*ckpit was just smoke 
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srv63
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No, because that needs a logical train of thought, we ain't dealing with logical thinking people here.
Srv really believes that no planes flew that day, seriously.
He doesn't know how the light poles got bent, he doesn't care, it isn't important (because he can't explain it, that is why it isn't important).
Watch it and weep higgy---http://www.thepentacon.com/eyeofthestorm.htm
Bring a hanky---http://www.thepentacon.com/Topic7.htm
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57channels
Paducah, KY
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SRV
They screwed up on the photo shop by making flight 175's c*ckpit protrude completely thru the south tower but only a dim-wit like a shill would try to explain it away by saying that PERFECT SMOOTH IMAGE of the protruding c*ckpit was just smoke
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Yes indeed. In fact that was on live television that mourning. Of course, later on when they showed it again.......they edited out the nose in nose out part. Heck, they had to get rid of that shot of the nose in nose out or there's a good chance that 95% of Americans would know that no planes flew that day and that 9-11 was truly a false flag attack by element of the US Govt./ Mossad.
Whats just as surprising is the video shown over and over again where the fake plane melds into the tower or looks like it lands in the tower. Nothing breaks off the alleged plane or the building----just alot of smoke and fire. That' where the feds had to throw in the horrified voices [ OH NO????????? ] to coral the herd of bobbleheaded idiots to join the service. believe the Bin Laden lie, and let the bought and paid for Congressmen off the hook to call for a REAL F**KING INVESTIGATION.
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srv63
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@57,
I hope it is in my lifetime to see the wrath of judgement on the evil bastards behind all this shit, going all the way back to JFK's killing.I hope the guilty are skinned alive, every damn one of them.
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higgy51
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Watch it and weep higgy---http://www.thepentacon.com/eyeofthestorm.htm
Bring a hanky---http://www.thepentacon.com/Topic7.htm
You want me to waste 90 minutes of my time for what?
Please tell me what I am supposed to see and if you can, the pertinent minutes to look at.
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higgy51
Navarro, CA
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Wow, you saw ONE SECOND of it, just ONE SECOND and you conclude that they somehow photo-shopped a black mark on the video.
Next time, please be more specific on which video's you are discussing, maybe even quote them. I was referring to the latest one he posted.
Now, go to the one he most recently posted and you will see that the black mark has gone and why? Because smoke blows away.
If you need proof that smoke can go the other way, look at your video and at 1.20 look at the smoke on the right hand side of the building, it goes ROUND the corner of the building.
Pssst srv, no comments?
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57channels
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@SRV
I checked your link out about the Pentacon light poles. How sad is that that the guy in charge of the poles or clean up or [ cant think of the term ] had 2 boys and 2 girls and committed suicide???????????? Yeah right........just like the DC Madam I'm sure. Most likely a good chance he was murdered by the perps
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hallucis
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If the pole was already laying on the ground, then what possible reason would you have for cutting the cast aluminum base from the concrete pillar supporting it?
The pole was broken from the base.there is no concrete pillar supporting it. There is a sonotube in the ground with four bolts sticking out of it. The base is bolted to the ground then the pole is attached to the base. I recently spent two weeks installing them in the area I live in.
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tragicparrot
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Watch it and weep higgy---http://www.thepentacon.com/eyeofthestorm.htm
Bring a hanky---http://www.thepentacon.com/Topic7.htm
It is obvious Craig Ranke from CIT (citizen investigation team) used nothing but lame manipulation tactics during his interview with the cab driver Lloyde England. The results? With the exception that asshat Craig clearly succeeded in frustrating Mr England, his so-called "investigation" to this day stands as nothing but a rude/cruel joke. Flight data recordings, radar, witnesses all proved it was 77 that knocked down the lampposts. Number of witnesses who claimed they saw a plane fly over and miss the Pentagon? NONE.
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57channels
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tragic
Flight data recordings, radar, witnesses all proved it was 77 that knocked down the lampposts. Number of witnesses who claimed they saw a plane fly over and miss the Pentagon? NONE.
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Oh you mean the phony eyewitnesses, phony flight data, and phony radar recordings??? How about the witnesses that saw a plane [ not 77 of course ] fly over the Pentagon [ white plane ] right before the missile hit the Pentagon. You know----- to give off the illusion that a plane hit it. Dont think the ole F B I interviewed them huh??
Oh...but to be a naive country bumpkin
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class5
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Like all of the lies you spew on this forum, your a LIAR saying you have unblocked me for awhile.
Well, it's true, if you don't believe why should I give a f**k?
This morning is the first time your ignorant a** has shown up so come up with some more bullshit shill.
Yeah, yeah, I call BS. I smell Booshit Cletus.
Lets see how long you last before you go into hiding again.
Let's see if you can act like an adult.
Are you ready to answer the 5 questions yet so that the class can finally move on?
Obviously not. I've answered your questions satisfactorily moron, and I'm not bothering with any more of your demands. I know you're not well educated, that is obvious, but you really need to understand the concept of 'burden of proof', and Little Man, it's all yours! LOLOL
So f**k off Redneck.
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class5
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Photoshop. LOL. Any proof of the use of Photoshop? It always leaves traces of manipulation, so when you've come up with that I'll consider your nonsense, but until then, it's just a dumb story.
Remember, you have the burden to prove this is correct. Now do you have the data the proves Photoshop was used?
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