I also stated that I'm not sure if a man answering such as you described would offend me. I guess you didn't read that part of what I stated.

You will have to ask those women who do that.

Cuileann even though we're not exactly agreeing on anything in particular, I give you credit for one thing if nothing else. Having the guts discuss this topic without acting childish and needing other women to be your cheering section.

It seems like ANYTHING that might make a woman "admit" or "acknowledge callous behavior and destruct, ungodly intend their gender do for fun they will avoid like HIV. Even though you haven't either but you didn't hide.

I would have expected at least more Feminazi (feminist) and supports of Women's Lie (the war on men) to have been here.

Cuileann even though we're not exactly agreeing on anything in particular, I give you credit for one thing if nothing else. Having the guts discuss this topic without acting childish and needing other women to be your cheering section.

It seems like ANYTHING that might make a woman "admit" or "acknowledge callous behavior and destruct, ungodly intend their gender do for fun they will avoid like HIV. Even though you haven't either but you didn't hide.

I would have expected at least more Feminazi (feminist) and supports of Women's Lie (the war on men) to have been here.

So why is it considered offensive or disrespectful to ask a woman her weight and age? I've yet to have someone offer my a reasonable explanation.

But I've done the research so I know why women "claim" it to be wrong. lol

You tell first. Seriously, not offensive or disrespectful, just unnecessary, sounds like filling out a job application or something. I would answer none of your business.

During biblical times at the beginning of the mudroom period, if women weren't married by a certain age they were considered over ripe and "over the hill!" And over a certain weight exhibit laziness and NOT a good home keeper. So too old and too big (by those standards at that time) got u tossed in the junk pile.

So women (not wanting that) decided to DECEIVE men by playing mind games. "Don't Tell Don't Know" is what it's called. Women added to their list of "Don't do this or you get none" the age and weight to avoid the junk pile themselves. Another way they've used sex as a weapon to get their way.

Now even though times has changed and older and larger women are now MORE desired than young skinn, women still hold on to it bcuz it's a form of control and psychological manipulation.

So your decision to say "none of your business" only show a high level of insecurity and extremely low esteem. Truth is ANY WOMAN who gets good positive attention bcuz of their looks feel very good about themselves and VERY secure in their ability to keep a man without manipulation, lying, mind games and nasty attitudes.

So why is it considered offensive or disrespectful to ask a woman her weight and age? I've yet to have someone offer my a reasonable explanation.

But I've done the research so I know why women "claim" it to be wrong. lol

I agree but try telling that to forumlurker.

Back on topic... that too is a form of lying. When being deceitful or misleading on purpose.

But who's lies are the worse?

OK so you meet someone, they seem nice and genuinely interested in you. During the initial "first conversation" on a date or over the phone you ask them "why are they single if they're such a catch?"

In their answer they explain that they never dated someone (black, white, asian, fat, skinny, big, small, etc) and you're in one or two of those categories and dating you will be their first.

How would you take that? Would you be offended or simply see it as them being honest? Would their reason why they never did depend on how you take it? And would it make you feel awkward knowing you're their first?

I don't just accept being "told" something, but I can be persuaded by a sound and rational argument.

Any man who lets a woman put a baby on him that he did not father is just stupid in this day and age of DNA testing and Maury Povich. Or he could always choose to be the responsible one and use a condom.

Eyes wide open and using them. Men are visual and some women are very good at hiding their extra weight, however each person is different so weight and clothing size may very well matter to some people. Some women wear undergarments to minimize their appearance, so all that glitters is not necessary gold when clothes comes off. I personally don't care, since I don't think I'd encounter a man who wears spanx. I focus more on whether or not a man has healthy lifestyle, so I'd ask about their eating habits and fitness, however I have no issue telling me age, weight or dress size, in fact here it is, I'm 51 soon to be 52, I weigh between 147 lbs & 152 lbs, standing at 5 feet 4 or 5 feet 8 when in heels, my dress size is between size 6 & 8 depending on the cut and designer. If weight and age is so irrelevant and no big deal, why not just answer, if you have nothing to hide. The truth is most women hide their weight because they are ashamed of how much they weigh, and do get upset if a man were to ask about it.

actually I think women are more visual than men....and they hide that well too.

unless its a concert, or Chippendales, or a movie with their favorite hunk.

Eyes wide open and using them. Men are visual and some women are very good at hiding their extra weight, however each person is different so weight and clothing size may very well matter to some people. Some women wear undergarments to minimize their appearance, so all that glitters is not necessary gold when clothes comes off. I personally don't care, since I don't think I'd encounter a man who wears spanx. I focus more on whether or not a man has healthy lifestyle, so I'd ask about their eating habits and fitness, however I have no issue telling me age, weight or dress size, in fact here it is, I'm 51 soon to be 52, I weigh between 147 lbs & 152 lbs, standing at 5 feet 4 or 5 feet 8 when in heels, my dress size is between size 6 & 8 depending on the cut and designer. If weight and age is so irrelevant and no big deal, why not just answer, if you have nothing to hide. The truth is most women hide their weight because they are ashamed of how much they weigh, and do get upset if a man were to ask about it.

I'm really starting to like your style. At least what I'm hearing anyway. It's not often you meet a woman (especial blk woman) who doesn't follow a F'd up socially brainwashed way of thinking and living. And who DON'T repeat cliches like her vocab can speak nothing else.

@ forum lurker:
The problem with waiting til the clothes come off to SEE what you're getting is you may NOT like what you get when it does. Now this automatically creates controversy. Bcuz that man is either gonna have to FAKE enjoying it (that's fine by her) or hurt her feelings when he explain why he instantly became disinterested and disgusted.

That's childish high school games. Not what grown a** adults do. Grow adults put their cards on the table to establish honesty and NOT waste each others time playing "high school get a date.

Thank you. My eyes are wide open to the unkind things that some women do. I won't deny those things just because I'm also female. I have a brother who raise a child to adulthood only to find out after he divorced and remarried he was never able to produce children. His ex-wife who didn't revert back to her maiden name, used her ID and their invalid marriage certificate to empty his bank account when he was traveling outside of the country. Another brother was lie to, repeatly cheated on and financially clean out by his ex-wife. I'd voiced my concerns to my brothers earlier in their relationships but unfortunately my concerns fell on deaf ears and very ugly events played out.

I have opinions that most woman wouldn't agree with.

I think man should have the right to demand his wife drop his last name durwin their divorce and since it's his name, his request should be granted.

I think that when a man raises a child that's not his without his knowledge, he should be able to sue the child's mother for financial damages, and win even if they were married when the child was born.

I think the respect that women feel they are entitled to from man, they should first give that respect to themselves and be willing to give it to others before demanding it from men.

I think that women should stop hating on each other women for their looks. A woman can see another woman who she thinks is better looking than her and she will seek and point out every fault she can find with her be it real or imagined in an effort to tear down that woman's looks just to make herself feel better. Not all women are like that but a lot are.

Women need to stop sleeping with other women's men. Two wrongs don't make a right. Women say men are liers and cheaters but men cheat with other women, so what do you call that woman? Does that woman get a free pass because she is also female. If we as women respect ourselves and and each other's relationships, men would find it difficult to find to someone to cheat with.

Young girls need to stop fist fighting each other like men anf Dldegrading each other and themselves in public and then posting it on social media for word to see.

Women need to wake up and realized that we can't do the same things that a man can do walk away unmarked by those actions. We are not the same and society will hold us accountable and look down on us for those actions.


I don't hate women, after all we are sisters but women in general need look to look in the mirror and get the motte out of their eyes before pointing at others. I could go on and on but I'll stop here as it's way off the topic.

One last thing, I am not saying men in general don't have their own issues, because they do, but LADIES are becoming an endangered species and are in desperate need of help. Maybe if the ladies return more gentleman will show up too.

I already told you of the things that would be of concern to me I'm not a man and I'm not so focused on visual so I wouldn't need to ask weight questions. However if a man were to ask me about my weight, it doesn't matter how he asked, I would have no issues with answering.

As for me, a potential mate will need to meet certain health requirments before I'd consider dating him as my lifestyle and eating habits wouldn't be a good fit for some men.

As I said before most men are visual and fall for what they see, I don't believe they simply choose to be that way, I believe it's in their make up and they truly can't help it. Us women on the other hand tend to fall in love with what we hear rather than what we see so there's realy no doublestandards.

With all that said men tell us what we want to hear and we show them what they want to see and that my dear is why weight matters.

I wouldn't get involved with a man who currently has an unhealthy lifestyle so there would be no need to dump him for failing to meet my criteria.

You say you CAN be persuaded, but if a man is persuaded by a woman through trust , live and manipulation he's stupid? You're not stupid if you're persuaded but he is?

And what when the child is lied to? Being told some man is the dad when he's not? Is that child stupid too?

See what you're suggesting is men should see all women as lying a** bit€he's until they're proven not be. Right?

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One more thing I'd like to add. Truth be told, if I was obeast I'd be reluctant to tell anyone how much I weigh.

Don't you know, Doc? MEN, aren't allowed to say these things about women. We are just "oppressing" them, if we do.....

and don't believe everything you read. She has challenged me, in other threads, over similar topics.

Cmon Bee! lol I think you're being evasive. So allow me...

A man lies to get sex. He break a heart and hurts her feelings.

A woman lie by telling a man the child is his then tell the child he's the daddy. She gets 18yrs child support out him. Then he find out the truth and so does the child.

Which one of those lies are worse? Or do you see them as the same?

But a guy can look at me and see if I fall into within his preferences without asking unnecessary questions.