it only makes sense to those that can't think for themselves.
you're talking about people that believe man was made from dirt,virgin births, talking snakes and all kinds of crazy a** shit. so the above statement would make perfect sense
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arkiebama
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You surprise me. Why to waste time teaching a lie to the kids...? Of course....it could be done as a tool to recognize hypocrisy in a blink of an eye.
i really do think they should be taught both sides of the story. otherwise we wouldn't be any better then the bible beaters.
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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I think it should not be taught but I never had a problem with my kids asking about christanity or even invesitagating for them selves.my daughter was about 12 when one of her friends invited her to church well she went about 3 sundays and someone along the way gave her a bible to study(it had all the correct verses highlighted for her  "a couple of sundays later i noticed she had stopped going so I asked her if she had any questions about god or the bible.she said "no it sounds good on paper but I don't buy it.....too many contradictions in it for me to belive"
I quit worring about religon and my daughter from then on.
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arkiebama
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I think it should not be taught but I never had a problem with my kids asking about christianity or even investigation for them selves.my daughter was about 12 when one of her friends invited her to church well she went about 3 sundays and someone along the way gave her a bible to study(it had all the correct verses highlighted for her "a couple of sundays later i noticed she had stopped going so I asked her if she had any questions about god or the bible.she said "no it sounds good on paper but I don't buy it.....too many contradictions in it for me to believe"
I quit worrying about religion and my daughter from then on.
i think you did the right thing. a person don't really know what they believe
until they've looked at all the options
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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i think you did the right thing. a person don't really know what they believe
until they've looked at all the options
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fully agree its how I was raised and tried pass it on
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michney
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with the way the world is today children just need to be taught right from wrong there is too many crazy people having children and then the kids grow up to be crazy.
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gjlover
Grand Junction, CO
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with the way the world is today children just need to be taught right from wrong there is too many crazy people having children and then the kids grow up to be crazy.
True, but religon is not a pre-requisite to learning right from wrong.
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ynghrt1
London
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Not unless you want to teach them every religion, as well as evolution, so that they will have a chance to decide for themselves what they want to believe.
I second that.
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lcbotzz
Staten Island, NY
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no because:
"Had any of you been born in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria, etc, there is nearly a 100% chance that you would be Muslim, and no amount of free will given to you from Jesus would prevent that. You would be doomed to Hell strictly because your parents lived in the wrong country. Think about that the next time you picture your God as all-loving and merciful. If He exists like you say He does, He is allowing millions of souls to go to Hell because they were born into a nation that does not believe in Him. How do you justify this?" C. Diddy
basically your forcing them to beleive in something with no facts to back it up...your already killing there critical thinking abilities and telling them fantasies are ok , even with no scientific backing
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duchessa
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""and no amount of free will given to you from Jesus would prevent that. C. Diddy""""
I don't know from which thread you got the above words but C. Diddy should be told that
1. Jesus was a human being like you and I and my neighbor...whose name is also Jesus.
2. That Jesus didn't provide anybody with free will...it was Mother Nature doings.
3. No person lucky enough to have been born with a quite awoken ability to reason will ever be forced to believe the stupid thing he / she (Diddy) said.
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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no because:
"Had any of you been born in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Syria, etc, there is nearly a 100% chance that you would be Muslim, and no amount of free will given to you from Jesus would prevent that. You would be doomed to Hell strictly because your parents lived in the wrong country. Think about that the next time you picture your God as all-loving and merciful. If He exists like you say He does, He is allowing millions of souls to go to Hell because they were born into a nation that does not believe in Him. How do you justify this?" C. Diddy
basically your forcing them to beleive in something with no facts to back it up...your already killing there critical thinking abilities and telling them fantasies are ok , even with no scientific backing
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There are different ways of teaching you &I teach children to look before crossing the street don't we?
I live in an area where pit vipers are common and taught my children to look out for them.
being taught about relig. helps them to recognize danger and avoid it.
think about how easy it is for the buybull thumpers to prey on the uninformed.just my opinion.
don't confuse teaching with indoctorination.
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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There are different ways of teaching you &I teach children to look before crossing the street don't we?
I live in an area where pit vipers are common and taught my children to look out for them.
being taught about religion. helps them to recognize danger and avoid it.
think about how easy it is for the bible thumpers to prey on the uninformed.just my opinion.
don't confuse teaching with indoctorination.
EXACTLY!!
btw if you need some more rattle snakes you are welcome to come to bama and get ye a truck load. ""FREE"" you pick..lol
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lcbotzz
Staten Island, NY
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you guys are right i misunderstood what he/she was saying....you have to teach them to critical think...think logicaly, and dont let your bias opinion sway the actual facts...everyone has a bias they are looking for but we need to let the facts lead us to the actual truth...your 100 oercent right they need to learn about the religions so they know what to look out for
also according to to chrstians jesus was not only a person he was also God..so according to them he did give us freewill..cuz he is the same person as god..i know doesnt make sense to me either
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duchessa
Yonkers, NY
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also according to to chrstians ...
Why to quote those who don't know their noses from their asses? 
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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also according to to christians jesus was not only a person he was also God..so according to them he did give us freewill..cuz he is the same person as god..i know doesn't make sense to me either |
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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Why to quote those who don't know their noses from their asses? ::signal::::signal::::signal::::signal::
sorry duccy i have to disagree with ye..
they know their noses from their ass.
their nose is what goes up the preachers ass, and their a** goes in the Pew.
they remember this by saying,,stinky side down.((PHEW!!!))
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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hell no got enough copperheads,cottonmouths & timberrattlers all ready damn sure don't need to import any!
but I can give you a recipe for rattlesnake chilli if you want
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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hell no got enough copperheads,cottonmouths & timber rattlers all ready damn sure don't need to import any!
but I can give you a recipe for rattlesnake chili if you want
LMAO!!! i kinda figured you'd say that.
thanks but no thanks on the chili. i'm sure its good but me and snakes have a understanding, if they don't bite me i won't bite them. that has been a good arrangement sense 1949,i'd hate to break the treaty now. lol
i was borned and raised in the rice fields of south arkansas and i thought i seen
some BIG cotton mouths. but these damn things over here are on steroids or something.
i've never seen such big ones in my life. but one good thing is, i've noticed a big
rise in king snakes in the last few years. but i haven't seen one big enough to tackle these cotton months. we need to import some gaters.lol
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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sounds like ya need a 500lb roadrunner
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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sounds like ya need a 500lb roadrunner
naa, that wouldn't help... the coyotes would kill it.
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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IDK hes got a really big pecker
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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IDK hes got a really big pecker
then the women would kill him,,, its a no win sitution. but the big problem is there ain't no acme stores around here. where would he get his supplies?
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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 its the coyote that uses the acme rocket to catch the roadrunner with rollerskates
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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its the coyote that uses the acme rocket to catch the roadrunner with roller skates::brick wall::
LMAO!!! that's what i was trying to say,,just got it twisted around,,,lol
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joelallen83
Waxahachie, TX
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There are SOME* moral's found within different religions that would be good to teach. honestly, show them both sides from a non-bias stand point and let them decide... knowledge is power.. why let them wonder through life blindly.. that and 'faith' helps some people survive.
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duchessa
Yonkers, NY
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There are SOME* moral's found within different religions that would be good to teach. honestly, show them both sides from a non-bias stand point and let them decide... knowledge is power.. why let them wonder through life blindly.. that and 'faith' helps some people survive.
To teach the kids religion...for knowledge...is OK
For morals? No need to use religion....
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kinkaju
Booneville, AR
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There are SOME* moral's found within different religions that would be good to teach. honestly, show them both sides from a non-bias stand point and let them decide... knowledge is power.. why let them wonder through life blindly.. that and 'faith' helps some people survive.
you are right morals are important but they are not exclusive to any religion.
absolutly knowledge is power
faith is not the same as blind faith I am an atheist but i have faith in myself and nature and it has got me through tough times more than once.
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arkiebama
Union Grove, AL
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you are right morals are important but they are not exclusive to any religion.
absolute knowledge is power
faith is not the same as blind faith I am an atheist but i have faith in myself and nature and it has got me through tough times more than once.
very well put. but i don't have faith in anything.. i have reasonable expectations of
myself and others to do the right things in life but i don't have faith they will do it.
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