I'm hatred and darkness too . The bad is just as much human nature as the good .

Why do people think that love gets rid of all the bad elements of human nature ?

I struggle with both good and bad all the time . Love can "cover" the bad rather nicely , but If I want anything to change , I have to "face off" with the bad parts of my human nature .

We are what we think about !

Both are aspects of the same spectrum... Love, hate, darkness and light...

I find it disheartening that you "face off" with the bad parts. I have finished fighting with them and instead I embrace them. They are all seeds in the garden which manifest when watered. When I catch myself becoming angry I don't try to subdue the anger I smile on it and water the seeds of compassion that I know are there. Hello anger, my old friend... I am here for you. What is your source?

I agree that we are love and hate but the thing that strikes me is that once hate/fear is understood it can turn into love/compassion but once love/compassion is understood it still turns to more love and compassion.

Love isn't a battle to be won, it is just a choice... We have the seeds of fear, hate, ignorance and confusion in us and if we're not mindful, they can be watered every day by just what we consume in our bellies and our minds until they manifest. On the good side, we also have the seeds of compassion, love, enlightenment and wisdom just waiting to be watered. They can also be watered by others and what we consume (food, tv, music...) but they can also be watered just by calling on them.

Sorry, I'm rambling now... I have to choose love because I love each and every one of you. If I don't show love, I'm no good to you.

If anyone notices that I'm using Thich Nhat Hahns idea with the seeds and garden, it's absolutely true. I've never met him but he has taught me alot.

We put value to everything , either plus , minus , or middle . The value we seek is'nt supplied by nature , its supplied by the mind . The value we give to love , or anything else , is a mental configuration that is not natural .

All my love comes from life , and I give it all back to life , and I do'nt feel like I'm lying when I say it .

As for value, it's subjective.

Once a stand is taken, everything is split. A reference point is born and suddenly there is "up" and "down". Add another and we have subjectivity.

It doesn't matter to me that there is no absolute value or non-value but I see value in value.

Fact is that if there was nobody to care for us and feed us when we were infants, we would not have survived. Everything is interdependant and we inter-are.

We are interbeing.

Compassion is not some emotionalistic ideal, it is quite literally common sense. I don't put a bandage on a cut finger because I feel sorry for it, I do it because it is a part of me that needs healing. Just like my anger... Just like any other being I sense the suffering in.

I am love.

I am universe.

Here we are when we were a bit younger;

I am grateful for your contribution to these groups and forums Brother.

The universe , the earth , life , its all so unfathomable , they do'nt need us (our minds or emotions) to make them great

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We need Earth/universe/life to make us great(even if only in a small way).
The Earth/Universe/Life needs us to respect it or else we diminish it.
IMHO

• Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
• We are a part of the earth and it is part of us
~ Chief Seattle

In my view, our consciousness (and all consciousness) is an expression of the universe, our spirits a spark of the Divine essence of the Universe. As we grow in Love, understanding, wisdom and knowledge, so the universal consciousness grows. Each of us contributes perhaps a relatively miniscule amount, but each is important because each individual perspective contributes uniquely. As we grow, we are also able to recognize our place as part of the universal consciousness, and thereby better connect with that consciousness as one.

But humanity wants it all , part is'nt "good" enough .

I see more and more people waking up to compassion and the art of sharing life every day.

But then I am an instigator.

What humanity does right (or love and compassion) isnt going to fix its wrongs . Humans owned humans , how messed up is that ? All the love in the world wont fix that .

Humanity claims ownership for all the good things in life , while all the bad is handed to an "inhuman" culprit , circumstance , or its completely ignored altogether .

Humanity needs to own up and take responsibility for all the bad too. Relying on love to cure its ills is only a patch job .

After all our failures , we still have the gall to think that humanity is a primary connection . What if we are'nt as connected as we think we are ?