Religious pushback

12/30/2015 7:35:40 PM	Religious pushback
jrbogie1949 Red Bluff, CA 67, joined Mar. 2009	Quote from duchessa: No, it doesn't suck when the blocked person "reached such status" at the request of the other posters. ha. the last thing that'll happen here is me giving a shit what other posters want. but i must say i am curious who these other posters are that influence you so. sail? iam? others who cannot carry on a discussion in a civil manner? Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
12/30/2015 7:39:56 PM	Religious pushback
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014	just as a suspected.no debate thread will u see from her challenging me and her beliefs
12/31/2015 8:05:29 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from jester0011: i see no debate thread dutchess Darling, you are in such thread.
12/31/2015 8:18:51 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from jrbogie1949: ha. the last thing that'll happen here is me giving a shit what other posters want. but i must say i am curious who these other posters are that influence you so. sail? iam? others who cannot carry on a discussion in a civil manner? His aggressiveness was a little too much for those members who want to debate intelligently. See, certain member's posts interrupts the original topic's normal flow. Your post above is a good example. No, dear, it was not a matter of influencing me but of agreeing with them....and ""I don't give a s...t that you don't give a s...t""
12/31/2015 10:00:31 AM	Religious pushback
jrbogie1949 Red Bluff, CA 67, joined Mar. 2009	Quote from duchessa: His aggressiveness was a little too much for those members who want to debate intelligently. See, certain member's posts interrupts the original topic's normal flow. Your post above is a good example. ha, now that's a good one. here is your very first post to the very first reply to this thread; What's ridiculous is your answer...as you know nothing about subliminal advertising ALTHOUGH YOU ARE EXPOSED TO IT SINCE EVER BY YOUR RELIGION. So, dear, think again....Ups, I forgot believers aren't allowed such PRIVILEGE. is this what you call the 'topic's normal flow?'
12/31/2015 10:24:00 AM	Religious pushback
clarence2 South Yorkshire United Kingdom 58, joined May. 2011	. Quote from jrbogie1949: blocking sucks. cowardice. just means the blocker has nothing cogent to add to the discussion. there's this technique known as ignore if you don't care to hear what a person has to say. I think it's okay to block people who would be suspended and banned for their conduct if the site was actively moderated, and KB comes under that description. He's always denouncing members with language like "You are a nutcase" - not to mention his annoying "Stay in your grave" rebuke to anyone who rejects his constant simple minded resort to the shaky Pascal's Wager argument. Why converse online with obnoxious people who wouldn't be worth the time of day in real life? Life's too short, blah etc. Although I suppose most people on this forum could be classed as obnoxious by someone. It's either hostile aggressive atheists with delusions of having psychiatric diagnostic abilities, or dogmatic and preachy Christians who continually recycle previously debunked arguments as if they haven't been been addressed [Edited 12/31/2015 10:26:30 AM ]
12/31/2015 11:13:12 AM	Religious pushback
jrbogie1949 Red Bluff, CA 67, joined Mar. 2009	Quote from clarence2: . Quote from jrbogie1949: blocking sucks. cowardice. just means the blocker has nothing cogent to add to the discussion. there's this technique known as ignore if you don't care to hear what a person has to say. I think it's okay to block people who would be suspended and banned for their conduct if the site was actively moderated, and KB comes under that description. He's always denouncing members with language like "You are a nutcase" - not to mention his annoying "Stay in your grave" rebuke to anyone who rejects his constant simple minded resort to the shaky Pascal's Wager argument. Why converse online with obnoxious people who wouldn't be worth the time of day in real life? Life's too short, blah etc. Although I suppose most people on this forum could be classed as obnoxious by someone. It's either hostile aggressive atheists with delusions of having psychiatric diagnostic abilities, or dogmatic and preachy Christians who continually recycle previously debunked arguments as if they haven't been been addressed point taken, clarence. blocking someone who's antics would get them banished were these forums moderated is one thing but what if the blocker is no less guilty of those same antics? is saying, "you are a nut case," any more a caustic personal insult than saying, "you're not intelligent enough to participate in this thread?" does either comment "contribute to the flow of the topic?" frankly i don't really care that some people here cannot carry on a civil discussion. it's a dating site and as i've given up on getting laid here i participate on the forums for my amusement of which there would be less if we didn't have the obnoxious among us to laugh at along with whatever discussion of any substance might occasionally develop. not unlike attending a fight and a hockey game broke out.
12/31/2015 11:14:42 AM	Religious pushback
thebard58 Hermiston, OR 57, joined Jul. 2010	Just thought I'd drop in for a quick check, seems to be "business as usual"... Haven't got the time or energy to get involved in intense discussion/debate so, if you consider this "hit and run", and are offended, sue me LOL (Aside to Clarence- Whether or not certain arguments are "debunked" is, a matter of opinion. Obviously we have disagreed, and would continue to disagree on this judgement, in certain instances.) As to this particular subject: While it would seem reasonable that a greater prevalence of more open demonstration of icons representing particular aspects of theological belief, or declaring identity with a particular group, may indeed be seen as a "religious push back"- (There does seem to be an atheistic contingent that has declared war on all theistic belief)... My reaction/comment/analysis as to this particular statement... as though the US Conference of Catholic Bishops ordered their masses to drown out and suppress atheism by a dramatic show of their numbers in the population. This is more evidence that this Church is running an internal dictatorship within our country and directing its members to act in concert against the rights and freedoms of individuals it disagrees with. "As though"... Indicating that the statement is nothing more than a suppostion on behalf of the individual presenting it. If said statement were supported by some evidence (such as, perhaps, a quote from the pope threatening excommunication for anyone not making such a public demonstration) then it might have some credence. That not being the case, it would seem to merely be based upon individual prejudice. Additionally, I fail to see any credence to the claim that, even if the RC were threatening such a sanction, that this would in any way be acting against the rights and freedoms of individuals it disagrees with. Could this be illegal? It would seem so if they are in fact extorting their members with threats of ostracism or Hell to do this. Again..."It would seem so" (opinion) "if they are in fact" (admission of lack of documented fact to even support a basis for the allegation). And operative point their members In this respect, one might consider any "church" to be equated with a private club. If you do not agree with the charter, or rules of of said club, you simply do not have to belong to it. I haven't read the whole thread, so do not know if KB was perhaps discourteous enough to warrant being exiled, but I would have to agree with his initial categorization of "atheist radicalism". I deem it rather ironic that a segment that argues against militarism and coercion on behalf of institutions based upon theology, are advocating and practicing the same sort of tactics in a "crusade" against theology, rather than actually practicing "live and let live", and granting persons the right to believe as they choose (of not), and to demonstrate the same publicly, without threat of retaliation. If you advocate limiting freedom of speech, or deed, to only that which does not offend anyone, then you are not advocating freedom, at all- regardless of your motivation. What so many of those who consider themselves as "progressive liberal" fail to acknowledge is that they themselves use the same tactics as those they oppose, and are therefore just as guilty of "suppression", or "oppression" as their opposition.
12/31/2015 11:35:28 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from jrbogie1949: ha, now that's a good one. here is your very first post to the very first reply to this thread; What's ridiculous is your answer...as you know nothing about subliminal advertising ALTHOUGH YOU ARE EXPOSED TO IT SINCE EVER BY YOUR RELIGION. So, dear, think again....Ups, I forgot believers aren't allowed such PRIVILEGE. is this what you call the 'topic's normal flow?' Yes...my answers were the correct ones to a person who can't see beyond his nose on this subject; he is the perfect example of what "subliminal job" does to a person. Please, his fanaticism and aggressiveness make impossible any / all intelligent conversation / debate on this subject. Read the other posters' answers to what he said. Period.
12/31/2015 11:41:34 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	jrbogie1949 See? clarence2 and thebard58's posts are examples of debating and "contributing to the normal flow of the conversation"...specially the post by bard58.
12/31/2015 1:00:03 PM	Religious pushback
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014	nin of these athiest turds want to have a real debate with me.they know better.
12/31/2015 1:26:51 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from jester0011: nin of these athiest turds want to have a real debate with me.they know better. 1. Think of turds whenever you talk to your relatives. 2. To debate with you, JESTER, is like to pay attention to the court's BUFFOON. Got it? LOL
12/31/2015 2:12:43 PM	Religious pushback
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Jester, a little advice about debating atheists: whenever you disprove one of their pet theories (quite easy to do, of course) they resort to personal insults, thinking that in that way they have won the argument. Just thought I'd give you a head's up. [Edited 12/31/2015 2:13:34 PM ]
12/31/2015 2:15:18 PM	Religious pushback
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 61, joined Dec. 2014	Lud, that made no sense You never disproved an atheists point on God. In fact, you have never presented evidence for your God.
12/31/2015 2:33:05 PM	Religious pushback
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Look around you. That's my evidence.
12/31/2015 2:44:24 PM	Religious pushback
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 61, joined Dec. 2014	I'm sitting at my desk, and everything here is man made, no evidence of a God.
12/31/2015 3:19:16 PM	Religious pushback
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Go outside and look around.
12/31/2015 3:24:36 PM	Religious pushback
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: Look around you. That's my evidence. Your low intelligence leaves you with no brain power. Looking around you like every animal with eyes can only see appearance with no understanding of what it is. If you're too stupid for science all you have left are your superstitions.
12/31/2015 4:28:35 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: Jester, a little advice about debating atheists: whenever you disprove one of their pet theories (quite easy to do, of course) they resort to personal insults, thinking that in that way they have won the argument. Just thought I'd give you a head's up. Kick it off, lud....if you don't know that buffoon is a synonym of jester...well, not my problem. BTW, is not "when you disapprove one of their theories...the Atheists will insult you" but the problem with you guys is that most of the times whatever you say MAKES NO SENSE.
12/31/2015 4:30:05 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: Look around you. That's my evidence. Fine and dandy...your evidence. Not mine nor the evidence for others. Can you understand what I am saying.
12/31/2015 4:52:19 PM	Religious pushback
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014	i hear the talk but no one challenges me
12/31/2015 4:53:20 PM	Religious pushback
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 61, joined Dec. 2014	Quote from ludlowlowell: Go outside and look around. If you think that is not only evidence of a Gog, but evidence of your favorite God, then this conversation is over.
12/31/2015 5:22:40 PM	Religious pushback
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from jester0011: i hear the talk but no one challenges me You don't just have one challenge. You have many. You're stupid and mentally deteriorated.
12/31/2015 5:39:55 PM	Religious pushback
scoobs78 Kansas City, MO 38, joined Jun. 2013	Quote from aphrodisianus: You don't just have one challenge. You have many. You're stupid and mentally deteriorated. I agree looks like you won before you even get your gloves off to challenge him! his mental illness or illnesses are on display 24/7/365 for all of us to see uhahahahaha he doesn't provide much of a challenge anyways being he has such a small yet feeble mindas! a 5th grader is smarter than him! [Edited 12/31/2015 5:42:49 PM ]
12/31/2015 5:44:46 PM	Religious pushback
scoobs78 Kansas City, MO 38, joined Jun. 2013	Quote from jester0011: i hear the talk but no one challenges me u don't offer up much of a challenge shane with u having the IQ of a tree stump and being dumber than a 5th grader.
12/31/2015 5:46:26 PM	Religious pushback
scoobs78 Kansas City, MO 38, joined Jun. 2013	Quote from jester0011: the ladies aren't blowing down my door to see my chest and my teenie weenie what am I doing wrong?
12/31/2015 5:52:39 PM	Religious pushback
scoobs78 Kansas City, MO 38, joined Jun. 2013	Quote from jester0011: nin of these athiest turds want to have a real debate with me.they know better. none*= correct spelling but its not expected for jester to be able to spell much of anything correctly or form a complete sentence. no one wants to take several steps backward to get down to your level jester I don't blame them! you aren't the brightest light bulb in the marquee nor the smartest in a room full of bright geniuses that are going places in life while you are slowly fading away into depression, physical n mental pain and loneliness [Edited 12/31/2015 5:53:48 PM ]
12/31/2015 5:54:15 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	How about an interesting comment on the OP? Thanks.
12/31/2015 7:00:45 PM	Religious pushback
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from duchessa: How about an interesting comment on the OP? Thanks. I have not noticed that trend ..... but I can see why your friend can be concerned. I would think that most of the posters in this forum would see nothing wrong with it ..... but ..... if people were starting to wear swastikas instead of christian crosses ..... they would be up in arms. I see little difference in the two ..... both are displays of unity for/against something. Is it in any way breaking the law to don such a symbol? ..... I don't think so. One thing good about it is that it makes it easier to identify your enemies. Happy New Year! Peace
12/31/2015 8:22:29 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	sail_dancer Well, I bet a person wearing a swastika would be stopped. My friends now lives in CA; things may be different there. HNY
12/31/2015 8:58:12 PM	Religious pushback
jrbogie1949 Red Bluff, CA 67, joined Mar. 2009	Quote from duchessa: jrbogie1949 See? clarence2 and thebard58's posts are examples of debating and "contributing to the normal flow of the conversation"...specially the post by bard58. and this post contributes to the normal flow of conversation too, huh? from your first reply to a poster on this thread you contributed nothing to the normal flow of the conversation. and of course you'll come back at me yet again to continue the argument that contributes nothing to the flow of conversation whatsoever. [Edited 12/31/2015 8:59:48 PM ]
12/31/2015 9:37:40 PM	Religious pushback
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014	hey wait a minute,,,wait.am I seeing something here???I think I am..dutch and sail have a crush on each other
1/1/2016 12:14:01 AM	Religious pushback
nonstandard York, PA 53, joined Jun. 2009	Quote from jester0011: hey wait a minute,,,wait.am I seeing something here???I think I am..dutch and sail have a crush on each other You're sinking to a new low .
1/1/2016 6:24:17 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from jrbogie1949: and this post contributes to the normal flow of conversation too, huh? from your first reply to a poster on this thread you contributed nothing to the normal flow of the conversation. and of course you'll come back at me yet again to continue the argument that contributes nothing to the flow of conversation whatsoever. . I got tired of your antics, in this thread and of those you have posted in DH...so, have a nice good bye time.
1/1/2016 6:25:52 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from nonstandard: You're sinking to a new low . I don't think jester could sink lower than he already has.
1/1/2016 9:33:59 PM	Religious pushback
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014	well i am trying to debate u turds so guess i can sink lower
1/1/2016 9:37:50 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from jester0011: well i am trying to debate u turds so guess i can sink lower No, jester, you can't sink lower...because you were born at the lowest. Don't make me block you.
1/1/2016 10:19:29 PM	Religious pushback
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 61, joined Dec. 2014	I see KB2222 slithered off, rather than to back up what he says.
1/2/2016 2:44:48 AM	Religious pushback
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from Yasureoktoo: I see KB2222 slithered off, rather than to back up what he says. That's par for the course. Peace
1/2/2016 6:17:04 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from Yasureoktoo: I see KB2222 slithered off, rather than to back up what he says. I blocked him....He is a lot more fanatical and aggressive than in the past. I...and you guys...don't need his antics. The same with jbborgie.
1/2/2016 6:23:01 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Yesterday, at a local store, I was addressed as "Sister" by a gentleman who was preaching around. I said to him "Don't insult me, I am an Atheist." He, then, started to preach -pointing his finger at me- harder than before. I asked him to bring his ignorance to those stupid enough to believe it. He reinforced his preaching until I threatened him with the store security. Then, he run away like a rat from a sinking ship. I had a good laugh.People around were upset because I talked back to a "Brother". I sent those people to F..k and back. It was a hilarious experience.
1/2/2016 11:07:32 AM	Religious pushback
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	All human beings are brothers and sisters.
1/2/2016 11:20:27 AM	Religious pushback
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014
1/2/2016 1:27:12 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: All human beings are brothers and sisters. We may be brother and sisters in the sense of mankind....but not in the sense he said it. Period. To me; religion is for those who believe in it...I don't...so, if a person calls me "sister" I feel insulted...as much as when somebody calls me Hispanic.
1/2/2016 4:01:13 PM	Religious pushback
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: All human beings are brothers and sisters. Not at all. You can only have a brother or sister if you share at least one parent.
1/2/2016 6:09:36 PM	Religious pushback
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	All humans do share a common parent---God. God is ultimately the Father of us all.
1/2/2016 6:33:38 PM	Religious pushback
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: All humans do share a common parent---God. God is ultimately the Father of us all. Lud, you're a moron and I think you like being a moron. Your religious delusions are nonsense nonfact ignorance.
1/2/2016 8:13:56 PM	Religious pushback
Yasureoktoo Seattle, WA 61, joined Dec. 2014	Quote from ludlowlowell: All humans do share a common parent---God. God is ultimately the Father of us all. So Thor had a lot of sex, or was that Aphrodite.
1/3/2016 7:04:12 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: All humans do share a common parent---God. God is ultimately the Father of us all. If that God you believe in f...d so much (he has around four billion kids)...why the Catholic church is so much against sex?
1/3/2016 8:38:34 AM	Religious pushback
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from duchessa: If that God you believe in f...d so much (he has around four billion kids)...why the Catholic church is so much against sex? Catholicism's but also other Christianity is against sex because it's a normal and natural way humans bond with one another, especially at deep emotional level. If you take that away, and it would seem fearful, guilt ridden, weak mind ignorants would do so willingly, controlling them in every other way is quite easy. You have to remember Jesus forbidding all his men not to have sexual thoughts about women. The obvious homosexuality is apparent but it runs more deeply into the path of self loathing and self denial. Again, Jesus says you can't follow him unless you hate yourself. This is among the most insidious of Christian toxic dogma Because of this religious fanatics are sexually dysfunctional on the scale from sexual anorexia to promiscuity and pedophilia. Morons like Lud are too stupid to realize that but so are so many other brainwashed religious loons.
1/3/2016 8:49:49 AM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	aphrodisianus I agree w/ what you say; you have posted many comments on this aspect of religion...but I want to hear his answer. I don't doubt it will be a ridiculous one.
1/3/2016 3:36:39 PM	Religious pushback
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	If people have sex outside of marriage illegitimate children could result---that's not good for society, or tge children, right? And people who have sex with people to whom they are not married are making themselves into selfish people, and that's not good, right?
1/3/2016 5:49:49 PM	Religious pushback
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: If people have sex outside of marriage illegitimate children could result--- Then Jesus was an illegitimate child. And it doesn't matter whether the father is a Roman or a pigeon. that's not good for society, or tge children, right? Jesus certain wasn't. And it probably wasn't that good for that child to run off naked when they got Jesus. They said young man but 13 is considered a man. And people who have sex with people to whom they are not married are making themselves into selfish people, and that's not good, right? Women have complained about men who are selfish unwilling or don't know how to give a woman pleasure. Most of the times women are not selfish.
1/3/2016 6:32:44 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from ludlowlowell: If people have sex outside of marriage illegitimate children could result---that's not good for society, or tge children, right? And people who have sex with people to whom they are not married are making themselves into selfish people, and that's not good, right? Please, don't ever marry; your way of thinking assures us you won't bring to this world your clones ...which is a benefit to mankind.
1/4/2016 1:27:52 PM	Religious pushback
thebard58 Hermiston, OR 57, joined Jul. 2010	I do not speak for, or about, Catholicism much, as I disagree with a great deal of the doctrine it presents. Also, one might bear in mind that "religion" and "theology" are not synonymous. Any system of belief and/or discipline may be legitimately classified as a "religion", under certain definitions. For example the "code of Chivalry", or "Samurai code". And nearly every (if not all) "religion", "code", or system of discipline adjures restrictions upon sexuality (though the exact boundaries may vary greatly). I would say that the injunctions about sexuality are due to the fact that the primal urge is towards "if it feels good do it". And indulging in such undisciplined hedonism tends to have seriously deleterious effects upon the individual, let alone society.
1/4/2016 2:49:25 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	The rumor says the immense fortune of the Catholic church could be in danger if the priest would marry because......dears... upon his death his widow could place a claim on the money...something like "the church should pay a pension to the woman and children." Another rumor says this monarchy we know as the Catholic church indulges so much in / enjoys so much the practice of homosexuality that this institution is afraid of the competition from women. A third rumor states that celibacy was imposed because on those times the oldest son -whom usually became a priest (tradition) was the one who inherited the family' s money and, upon his death, the church would get all the $$$$
1/4/2016 10:39:15 PM	Religious pushback
jester0011 Lake Waccamaw, NC 48, joined Jun. 2014	what kinda craziness are the athiest spewing out today
1/4/2016 11:28:01 PM	Religious pushback
duchessa Yonkers, NY 63, joined Aug. 2008	Quote from jester0011: what kinda craziness are the athiest spewing out today Well, your contributions to the thread -as usual- have not been "too good"...so, dear, get a vacation.
1/5/2016 12:24:42 AM	Religious pushback
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	...and the real reason priests do not marry---so they can spend all their time in prayer and in service to people.
1/5/2016 3:11:02 AM	Religious pushback
sail_dancer Saint Petersburg, FL 68, joined Apr. 2010	Quote from ludlowlowell: ...and the real reason priests do not marry---so they can spend all their time in prayer and in service to people. And dating altar boys! Peace

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