What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?

3/15/2016 11:34:09 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Quote from digital_knight: But yet you claim a woman leaving a man for better candidate justify her . you are so twisted I swear . You really need to work on your reading comprehension or stop filtering everything through your anger. I never justified women OR men leaving a partner. I was talking about basic science, DNA driven biological function of the human species by gender. I also included in those posts that women (and ofcourse men) can make an active choice to stay with the mate of their choice. None of those things contradict anything I just posted in this thread. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
3/15/2016 11:36:40 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	It is perfectly normal for men AND women to want the best and it is simply logical to make sure you are the best that you can be to achieve that. Water seeks its own level...if you don't like the fish you are catching (or not catching) it's time to check your bait. [Edited 3/15/2016 11:36:58 AM ]
3/15/2016 11:37:42 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
digital_knight Grand Rapids, MI 44, joined Nov. 2012	You can try to sugar coat it all you want it is still twisted .
3/15/2016 11:39:39 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	It's basic science. shrug
3/15/2016 1:19:01 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
digital_knight Grand Rapids, MI 44, joined Nov. 2012	So either you agree if a man leaves a woman because she ended up fat after giving birth to their child or he just an awful person staying with her . Just confusing you are .
3/15/2016 1:50:45 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
dasnixter Jessieville, AR 58, joined Jul. 2010	A flowing grace in movement & a wee bit of junk in the trunk ne'er hurts. Sophia Loren Mambo Italiano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Nr-FoA9Ps
3/15/2016 2:05:12 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Quote from digital_knight: So either you agree if a man leaves a woman because she ended up fat after giving birth to their child or he just an awful person staying with her . Just confusing you are . Again.. nothing is that simple, life is RARELY about good and bad, right or wrong, or yes and no questions. Life is messy and no two people are alike. What happens between TWO people in a partnership is not mine to judge. I'm talking about the science of human behavior without your overly emotional judgements and personal condemnations of people.
3/15/2016 7:07:32 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
lucky_1million Pewaukee, WI 49, joined Jun. 2013	Quote from soulflight: Well I certainly don't want to be with a man who looks at me and thinks "she's not that pretty, kinda avg but she's really nice"...that would be awful...only a person who already thinks little of themselves would accept being thought of that way. That's just sad. No thanks, I prefer being with a man I find attractive in personality, character and appearance and he should feel the same way about me. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not to be mean... but to the outside world... people who don't know you... you two look like an average couple who have found each other. I think that's great!!! However, I think that when people fall in love with each other they have to put aside the ego for a bit. They realize that they person they are dating isn't a super model or a millionaire, rocket scientist... whatever... but there are so many other qualities about that person that they love and enjoy... that... well... none of that matters because this is the one they love the most. People who never put aside the ego are never happy with anyone... They will always be searching for something better. That's why there are a ton of cheaters out there. [Edited 3/15/2016 7:09:02 PM ]
3/15/2016 8:30:51 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
digital_knight Grand Rapids, MI 44, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from lucky_1million: Not to be mean... but to the outside world... people who don't know you... you two look like an average couple who have found each other. I think that's great!!! However, I think that when people fall in love with each other they have to put aside the ego for a bit. They realize that they person they are dating isn't a super model or a millionaire, rocket scientist... whatever... but there are so many other qualities about that person that they love and enjoy... that... well... none of that matters because this is the one they love the most. People who never put aside the ego are never happy with anyone... They will always be searching for something better. That's why there are a ton of cheaters out there. I agree
3/15/2016 11:13:14 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
dasnixter Jessieville, AR 58, joined Jul. 2010	I sense harmony in the thread. Ebony and Ivory - Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZtiJN6yiik Artists: Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder Album: Tug of War Released: 1982
3/16/2016 10:33:51 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Quote from lucky_1million: Not to be mean... but to the outside world... people who don't know you... you two look like an average couple who have found each other. I think that's great!!! However, I think that when people fall in love with each other they have to put aside the ego for a bit. They realize that they person they are dating isn't a super model or a millionaire, rocket scientist... whatever... but there are so many other qualities about that person that they love and enjoy... that... well... none of that matters because this is the one they love the most. People who never put aside the ego are never happy with anyone... They will always be searching for something better. That's why there are a ton of cheaters out there. No offense taken..why would there be? Like I said..beauty is in the eye of the beholder so other opinions are irrelevent to how two people see each other. I'm not sure what you mean by "putting aside ego" but I do know that a healthy id, ego and super ego is part of what I require in a partner so I don't want him changing any of that. http://examples.yourdictionary.com/examples-of-id-ego-and-superego.html There may be a "ton of cheaters" out there but what other people do has never had anything to do with me and my partner.
3/16/2016 4:51:14 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
lookin4him2012 Boone, NC 48, joined Jan. 2012	Men want women who can have good sex any time they make them do it and cook for them and clean up after them while they are lazy and do nothing for the woman in return.
3/16/2016 5:45:21 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from lookin4him2012: Men want women who can have good sex any time they make them do it and cook for them and clean up after them while they are lazy and do nothing for the woman in return. Women want rich men, that will.pay for everything whole she sits around at home all day doing nothing, except maybe f*cking the mailman while her man is slaving away at his job to pay for her and the kids that probably aren't even his to begin with.
3/16/2016 6:08:05 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	You're both sadly mistaken.
3/17/2016 2:42:25 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
cavie59 Enid, OK 57, joined Feb. 2010	Quote from lookin4him2012: Men want women who can have good sex any time they make them do it and cook for them and clean up after them while they are lazy and do nothing for the woman in return. Such a poor view of men. I am glad I do not need a woman for anything.
3/17/2016 4:13:36 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
ltlwing Winchester, OH 52, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from soulflight: It is perfectly normal for men AND women to want the best and it is simply logical to make sure you are the best that you can be to achieve that. Water seeks its own level...if you don't like the fish you are catching (or not catching) it's time to check your bait. I don't think this answer is twisted...pretty level headed advice. [Edited 3/17/2016 4:14:09 AM ]
3/17/2016 7:07:48 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Quote from cavie59: Such a poor view of men. I am glad I do not need a woman for anything. I agree with you; however, considering your oft stated view of women in general, this is pretty amusing. wing It's ok, I realized (as I'm sure you do) that some people just want to b*tch, "reason" is not required or appreciated
3/17/2016 7:12:02 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from ltlwing: I don't think this answer is twisted...pretty level headed advice. So, why do women get so offended when we stop pursuing them at older ages and trading them in for the younger models? It is "basic science" to want the best..... Oh, wait, that's right. We are discussing another feminine double-standard. Allow me to translate: "It's basic science."(What was said) (What it means "We women will use THIS excuse to justify why we go out and cheat on men we claim to be committed to, because the new guy has better looks and more money/power. We women will use this excuse to file for divorces based on poverty, under irreconcilable differences. We expect you men to accept this as a scientific fact of life and just "man up" and deal with it. However, science has proven that men associate physical beauty as a way of determining the overall health of a potential mate, but once all my beauty fades, you better not even think about dumping me for a super-fine, just-as-shallow-as-me younger woman, because I do NOT have to "woman-up" and just deal with that, because I don't want to." Sorry, ladies, can't hide behind "science" to justify your own bad behavior, unless you are willing to allow men to justify their own bad behaviors with the same argument. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Maybe you should try thinking about what material you plan to present to a debate, before typing it out. I enjoy blasting holes through this stuff, on my days off from work, too much.
3/17/2016 7:15:30 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
digital_knight Grand Rapids, MI 44, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from ltlwing: I don't think this answer is twisted...pretty level headed advice. B/s because if you knew anything about fishing you know no matter what kind of bait you use you won't catch a shark in fresh water .
3/17/2016 7:27:36 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from digital_knight: B/s because if you knew anything about fishing you know no matter what kind of bait you use you won't catch a shark in fresh water . Of course women are going to agree with a reason that justifies and rationalizes their piss poor behvaiors, Digital. Haven't you figured that out? You really want to silence them? Figure out how their argument justifies the very behaviors of men, that they are always chastising about. Then, they have two choices, they can accept the argument as valid(which invalidates their complaints of bad male behaviors), or they can claim the counter-argument is invalid(which invalidates their own bad behavior). It IS possible to win a debate or argument with a woman, but trust me, they will hate you for life because of that fact. I learned a LONG time ago, that there are 4 magical little words, that guarantee a woman will NEVER, EVER speak to you EVER AGAIN: I TOLD YOU SO
3/17/2016 8:41:12 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Enigma...the original comment I made WAS AND IS basic science. Any twisting that you or digital make of my words is on you. I didn't make excuses for anyone of any gender.
3/17/2016 8:49:58 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Sensible people are not offended by others not wanting/chasing them...and they don't lump people into large categories based on the behavior of a few encounters. Sensible people understand that people are individuals. But, you and I have had this conversation many times. It serves no purpose but to confirm our differences. Have a nice day sir. [Edited 3/17/2016 8:52:01 AM ]
3/17/2016 9:14:13 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
lynyrd80 Wood River, NE 54, joined Jan. 2014	Agreed, there are differences, and very few similarities between my 2 Ex. wives. So, I will restate a few things. I do like true honest-open communication a top priority. Yes there are physical things I like. but the 6 inches between the ears is more important. I require above average intelligent.
3/17/2016 9:44:03 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from soulflight: It is perfectly normal for men AND women to want the best and it is simply logical to make sure you are the best that you can be to achieve that. For men this would be the best looking women. For women this would be the richest, wealthier, most powerful men. Since women can become powerful and wealthy without men, men should not be held to this standard and you consistently say "it is who we choose". Well, if it is "basic science" for women to be money grubbing, gold-digging, shallow b*tches and it is "basic science" for them to cheat when they find a better model, then they have no right to be angry when men cheat with hotter, younger girls after their beauty has faded and their body is destroyed from having a bunch of kids. Men aren't allowed to get angry at women being gold-diggers, so therefore women can't be angry that men are visual. Afterall, it is just basic science...
3/17/2016 9:55:04 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	..it's clear you didn't read the exchange and as usual, that doesn't stop you from making your sweeping judgements based on hearsay and your unrelated experience. I sincerely hope that the day comes when you decide to forgive yourself and be happy. Until then, I choose not to participate in your self-imposed misery. There are plenty of drama lama's here who enjoy having this discussion with you over and over and over... [Edited 3/17/2016 9:58:15 AM ]
3/17/2016 1:08:49 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
brandnewday1 Finger, TN 43, joined Feb. 2016	Quote from enigmaathand: So, why do women get so offended when we stop pursuing them at older ages and trading them in for the younger models? It is "basic science" to want the best..... Oh, wait, that's right. We are discussing another feminine double-standard. Allow me to translate: "It's basic science."(What was said) (What it means "We women will use THIS excuse to justify why we go out and cheat on men we claim to be committed to, because the new guy has better looks and more money/power. We women will use this excuse to file for divorces based on poverty, under irreconcilable differences. We expect you men to accept this as a scientific fact of life and just "man up" and deal with it. However, science has proven that men associate physical beauty as a way of determining the overall health of a potential mate, but once all my beauty fades, you better not even think about dumping me for a super-fine, just-as-shallow-as-me younger woman, because I do NOT have to "woman-up" and just deal with that, because I don't want to." Sorry, ladies, can't hide behind "science" to justify your own bad behavior, unless you are willing to allow men to justify their own bad behaviors with the same argument. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Maybe you should try thinking about what material you plan to present to a debate, before typing it out. I enjoy blasting holes through this stuff, on my days off from work, too much. What you seem to enjoy is misery. You don't seem to like it either when others on here seem happy with their lives.
3/17/2016 1:19:26 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from brandnewday1: What you seem to enjoy is misery. You don't seem to like it either when others on here seem happy with their lives. I fail to see how my pointing out of a typical female double-standard causes warrant for me to enjoy misery, but ok. We'll run with your flawed sense of perception, if it'll make you crawl back under the boot of whatever woman has your nutsack in her purse....
3/17/2016 1:21:13 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from soulflight: ..it's clear you didn't read the exchange and as usual, that doesn't stop you from making your sweeping judgements based on hearsay and your unrelated experience. I sincerely hope that the day comes when you decide to forgive yourself and be happy. Until then, I choose not to participate in your self-imposed misery. There are plenty of drama lama's here who enjoy having this discussion with you over and over and over... No, actually, I read it exactly as you typed it and merely took your vague statement of justification for feminine superficiality, and spun it around to justify male superficiality, and you didn't like it. Why am I NOT surprised by this?
3/17/2016 2:14:31 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	I wasn't justifying anything. If you could turn off your anger filter you would see that. It's usually women who get angry and hate when I talk about the science but you are so mired in your pain / anger you have to believe women are hateful. I can't feel anything but pity for you at this point. Goodbye sir
3/17/2016 2:33:03 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	One last time because I think you really missed the point I don't have a problem with gender roles where genetics is relevant. I just have a problem with gender roles being used to exclude someone from a personal choice such as career, sporting. Etc. There are biological roles that exist for a reason..birthing, protecting, nurturing, hunting, gathering, etc I happen to enjoy being a woman and doing what women can do.. I also have no issue with those individuals that present a diversion from the standard..such as a nurturing man or a woman who hunts like a man..but then..I am not threatened by the accomplishments of others flag post \| hide posts from this user quote reply Ok...time for another reality lesson Here is the basic science. In nearly all vertebrates, with the exception of some fish and insects(not vertebrates...btw)..the female chooses and the male must compete. This is a basic of biology. Males are driven to spread their seed and females are driven to accept the seed of the best candidate of the moment, in other words, it is a biological function for females of a species to leave one partner when discovering a better male candidate. DEAL WITH IT.. She may make a deliberate choice to stay with an inferior mate. Actually, I said nothing about looks..I said "best candidate"..there are many different factors that could determine "best"....looks, skills, wealth, intelligence, power..etc That goes for men and women...and also explains why people with bad attitudes keep running into other people with bad attitudes...water seeks its own level
3/17/2016 4:22:39 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
brandnewday1 Finger, TN 43, joined Feb. 2016	Quote from enigmaathand: I fail to see how my pointing out of a typical female double-standard causes warrant for me to enjoy misery, but ok. We'll run with your flawed sense of perception, if it'll make you crawl back under the boot of whatever woman has your nutsack in her purse.... Not hating women & actually liking them bootlicking? To YOU, not to all men.
3/17/2016 4:37:20 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	I clearly seen your point, read between the lines, and effectively countered it. There was no anger and hostility to bias what I read. And thank you for proving exactly what I stated you were doing: using a vague scientific explanation to rationalize women being shallow and superficial creatures and being validated for leaving men high and dry just because he isn't at the highest point of his life.
3/17/2016 4:53:29 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	wow...you need more than luck and prayers can provide...I actually thought you were a bit smarter than that. Oh well...misery is your choice, not mine. [Edited 3/17/2016 4:53:47 PM ]
3/17/2016 5:19:36 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	@ brandnewbootlicker: Pointing out actions is not a form of hate. Calling women "whres" and running around "raping" is hate. As you are clearly a sheep being fed into the Feminism rhetoric and bullshit, please feel free to converse with the Fem-Nazi hens on here, that get off on these double standards. They will have no problem keeping you in their "Friend Zone", just like the other kiss-ass guys in these forums.(Like moobs and mylegsarecold). Me? Oh, I'll be taking out a really hot stripper, tonight, to a few bars while she gets completely trashed. Then, after I am done completely nailing her senseless at the end of the night, I'll take her home. Oh, and she contacted me to go tonight, as well. Bootlicking doesn't get you laid, buddy. Being an a*hole, with a spinal column does. So, think what you want about me. Calle a woman-hater because I won't tolerate feminine BS. Point and case remains that I stand for something and ain't some punk-ass pushover. One thing that is completely true about women, they can't stand a spineless punk.
3/17/2016 7:33:26 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
gothygoogoo Red Bluff, CA 59, joined Feb. 2015	again since this thread keeps staying up here... forgiveness...
3/17/2016 10:45:47 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
digital_knight Grand Rapids, MI 44, joined Nov. 2012	@E soul is one of those type people who says No and actually means yes and yes actually means no .
3/17/2016 10:51:07 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
digital_knight Grand Rapids, MI 44, joined Nov. 2012	Quote from digital_knight: @E soul is one of those type people who says No and actually means yes and yes actually means no . And that's not in fresh water btw
3/18/2016 6:15:24 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
cavie59 Enid, OK 57, joined Feb. 2010	Quote from soulflight: I agree with you; however, considering your oft stated view of women in general, this is pretty amusing. True, however I do know that there are a very few good women out there. I just never find any of the good women. She does not see any good men though.
3/18/2016 8:34:39 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Quote from gothygoogoo: again since this thread keeps staying up here... forgiveness... I think it's time we hijacked this thread of misery and turned it into a happy lovin' place.
3/18/2016 8:39:42 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
lynyrd80 Wood River, NE 54, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from soulflight: I think it's time we hijacked this thread of misery and turned it into a happy lovin' place. I agree Hate usually doesn't lead to love.
3/18/2016 9:02:35 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
ladybugruth58 Patton, PA 57, joined Feb. 2014	Relationships are about what each individual enjoys and tolerates. Going into a relationship with expectations is OK, but the other one will also have expectations of you.
3/18/2016 9:29:56 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
gothygoogoo Red Bluff, CA 59, joined Feb. 2015
3/18/2016 9:50:06 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Beautiul googoo!
3/18/2016 9:58:22 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014
3/18/2016 10:03:11 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
mylegsarecold Gainesville, FL 54, joined May. 2011	Quote from digital_knight: @E soul is one of those type people who says No and actually means yes and yes actually means no . It appears to me that your brain keeps inverting the meaning of her words. Next time you read one of her posts try not to stand on your head.
3/18/2016 10:08:56 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
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3/18/2016 10:49:36 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014	Hi legs
3/18/2016 11:58:31 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
celyn67 San Antonio, TX 49, joined Jan. 2016	Quote from gothygoogoo: I like that & it's true.
3/18/2016 12:41:39 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
enigmaathand Leavittsburg, OH 35, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from mylegsarecold: It appears to me that your brain keeps inverting the meaning of her words. Next time you read one of her posts try not to stand on your head. When you try to read one of my posts, ask whichever woman that is standing on your head, to relieve the pressure. Her cellulite is crushing all three brain cells you have left.
3/18/2016 12:48:11 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
soulflight Baltimore, MD 54, joined Apr. 2014
3/18/2016 2:32:08 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
epz112 Lancaster, CA 68, joined Nov. 2015	Quote from bumblebee7: Why do people post a title to a thread....then you read the question and its different than the title.?????? you ask what men value most in women....then ask what draws us to them. How about some consistency....? that would be nice... To answer: when you first see someone, you can't see the important things, you can see an image and that's about it. Now, if you know them....that's different, but those things don't always apply if your in a relation with them anyway. So again...we are back to consistency. . What are you doing ? policing the posts.
3/18/2016 3:48:07 PM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
mylegsarecold Gainesville, FL 54, joined May. 2011	Quote from enigmaathand: When you try to read one of my posts, ask whichever woman that is standing on your head, to relieve the pressure. Her cellulite is crushing all three brain cells you have left. I could give you one of mine and would still be twice as smart as you.
3/19/2016 9:04:28 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
lynyrd80 Wood River, NE 54, joined Jan. 2014	Quote from soulflight: Usually
3/28/2016 11:17:52 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
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3/29/2016 7:56:33 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
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3/29/2016 8:01:01 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
grande_mamon Houston, TX 49, joined Sep. 2014	Quote from kungfu_candy: I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't really like massages. I received two before. Both dudes were super fit and into that kind of thing. Massages hurt. I don't either, a real massage hurts like hell and giving them is a f**king yawnfest.
3/29/2016 8:01:09 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
sadlsticsienna AñatuyaNew South Wales Australia 23, joined Jan. 2016 online now!	They're supposed to do it gently lol
3/29/2016 8:06:08 AM	What qualities or skills do men value most in a woman?
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