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3/20/2016 7:05:06 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

celyn67
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,609)
San Antonio, TX
49, joined Jan. 2016


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Once again... Your perception of me is so damn childish, I'm sorry but it is. Look at "crazy legs" as an example. Go back and look at his very 1st and tell me if that's a simple disagreement or a fu€king attack. DKnight and I are friend offline as well as online, we've disagreed an it NEVER got to "crazy legs" level. Bumble has disagreed with me plenty of times and we still good.

There are plenty of women who've disagreed with me. Iheartidiots, pink, kungfu candy and a few more and we get along just find. Even the ladies who are my friends have disagreed and we're good. Now I've called all these ppl out by name so I can't be LYING. So maybe you care to explain why ALL THESE PPL disagreed with me and we get along fine and have to highest respect for each other? YOU CAN'T!!!

Bcuz this childish a** rant about me not liking or insulting ppl who simply disagree with me is STUPID and it's a typical DH response to ANY MAN who stands firmly on his own 2 feet, don't lick boots and depends himself against punk b*tches like "Crazy legs" who try and disguise insults as disagreements.

So enough of that dumb sh¡t. Now wince you seem to have me all excited out... Explain why QLL THE PPL I named who has disagreed with my plenty still has respect for me as I have for them???? We'll????


I did not go on any "rant". I was speaking what I think.

And it wasn't a perception of you, just me thinking you meant Christian when you mentioned God & the Bible. There ARE other religions, but not all of them have the Bible as Christianity does. I don't know why you would be so upset about me misunderstanding that. You have misunderstood me plenty. I go & tell you that I just thought you meant you're a Christian, but that's not good enough for you.

I don't know why others you disagree with you get along fine with. I don't read all their posts & all of yours.

It's not stupid or childish that I said that you insult some who don't agree with you, because it IS something you have done. You haven't done to everyone who doesn't agree with you, but you have done it to some. You insult some of the people if they don't agree with you, calling them names. There's no reason to do that.


And there is nothing wrong with anyone, man or woman, standing in their two feet, as you put it. So that's not why I said you dish out insults to sone bot agreeing with you. I've seen you do it enough times & some others have as well.

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3/21/2016 2:13:01 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
Over 1,000 Posts (1,051)
Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Hypocritical indeed. Ivaiva said out her mouth that she don't sh¡t on foreign women. But soon as she did I CALLED HER ON IT! Notice how she avoid and talk around my pointing out what she said? Acting like she didn't see ANYTHING I posted about her hypocrisy?

She could even deny saying it. But women act like we don't see this when they do it. How can you began to respect someone who talks out both sides of they damn face? They may not like what I say but they DAMN SURE can't call me a hypocrite bcuz I'm consist and don't switch up only when it's convenient.

Obvious ivaiva and other women in here do. And I'll take her silence and evasiveness as a confirmation of that.


First, "...don't sh¡t on foreign women...". I didn't say that, I deny it. I've never informed the public about my bathroom habits.

Second, saying that somebody is a slave is not insulting. It is a fact.

Third, you said that women in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan believe in traditional biblical roles. That is not true and I called you on it, you didn't answer. Your silence is a confirmation that you don't know what you are talking about.

3/21/2016 5:29:10 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,633)
Gwynn Oak, MD
49, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from ivaiva:
First, "...don't sh¡t on foreign women...". I didn't say that, I deny it. I've never informed the public about my bathroom habits.

Second, saying that somebody is a slave is not insulting. It is a fact.

Third, you said that women in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan believe in traditional biblical roles. That is not true and I called you on it, you didn't answer. Your silence is a confirmation that you don't know what you are talking about.


OK then prove me wrong. Give me a viable reference, article, video documentary or link that proves that those women are slave by the very definition. Show some kind of evidence their situation is no different than when blacks were slave in this country or when Hebrews were slave km Egypt during Exodus.

Prove anything other than your opinion of their cultural difference. Prove something other than you just running your mouth. See that'll end ALL this back & forth. Just like the gov't you worship would say "YOU have the burden of proof!" SO PROVE IT! And talk around it this time just prove it!

And to keep repeating yourself ISN'T PROOF! Prove its slavery and not just you sh¡tting on their cultural and religious values that doesn't meet American expectation.

3/21/2016 8:38:09 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
Over 1,000 Posts (1,051)
Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
OK then prove me wrong. Give me a viable reference, article, video documentary or link that proves that those women are slave by the very definition. Show some kind of evidence their situation is no different than when blacks were slave in this country or when Hebrews were slave km Egypt during Exodus.

Prove anything other than your opinion of their cultural difference. Prove something other than you just running your mouth. See that'll end ALL this back & forth. Just like the gov't you worship would say "YOU have the burden of proof!" SO PROVE IT! And talk around it this time just prove it!

And to keep repeating yourself ISN'T PROOF! Prove its slavery and not just you sh¡tting on their cultural and religious values that doesn't meet American expectation.

First, you give me the proof that I said: "...don't sh¡t on foreign women..."
And answer how women in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan believe in traditional biblical roles.

3/22/2016 11:07:28 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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Gwynn Oak, MD
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Quote from ivaiva:
First, you give me the proof that I said: "...don't sh¡t on foreign women..."
And answer how women in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan believe in traditional biblical roles.


In my 3rd post I'll quote what YOU said. But for now here's your Afghanistan religion...

Islam
The official religion in Afghanistan is Islam, which is practiced by over 99% of its citizens. As high as 90% of the population follow Sunni Islam. The remaining are Shias. Apart from Muslims, there are also small minorities of Sikhs and Hindus.




Now PROVE this is not true. That this ISN'T the official religion of the ppl. You picked the wrong one to challenge baby.





3/22/2016 11:14:16 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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And here's my second post about your Saudi Arabian slaves....


Shia and Sunni Islam. The ruling House of Saud is a Sunni Muslim family, and Sunni Islam is the state religion of Islam. Sunnis comprise the vast majority of Muslims in Saudi Arabia, while Shiite Muslims make up a minority.
Culture & Religion of Saudi Arabia | USA ...
USA Today


Again.... PROVE this is not the official religion of Saudi Arabian ppl.

3/22/2016 12:33:05 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

phil406
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Didn't Saddam Hussein do "Ethnic Cleansing" on muslims also from them being a different sect of Islam (Kurds) as did Milosovich in the balkans to muslims?

3/22/2016 1:40:54 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
Over 1,000 Posts (1,051)
Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
.....here's your Afghanistan religion...
Islam
The official religion in Afghanistan is Islam, which is practiced by over 99% of its citizens. As high as 90% of the population follow Sunni Islam. The remaining are Shias. Apart from Muslims, there are also small minorities of Sikhs and Hindus.

Now PROVE this is not true. That this ISN'T the official religion of the ppl. You picked the wrong one to challenge baby.


This is what I said - that people in those countries are muslims. You said that they have biblical values. I will quote your post to prove that you are disproving yourself:



Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
But then you sh¡t on Afghan Saudi women calling them slaves. Bcuz their culture and religion is different from yours? Bcuz they believe in traditional biblical roles and you don't?


Quote from ivaiva:
You don't know what you are talking about. Nobody in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia believes in traditional biblical roles. People in those countries are not Christians, they have Islamic religion.



Muslims don't read the bible.

3/22/2016 2:28:41 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

mylegsarecold
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ivaiva, I think he is trying to say that it is your fault he can't read.

3/22/2016 8:57:38 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

celyn67
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3/23/2016 2:05:35 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
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Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


I know...

3/26/2016 6:04:08 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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Gwynn Oak, MD
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Quote from ivaiva:
I have good news for you. There are 3 places in the world where you can find women that good for you - Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia (because of religion) and Mauritania (hereditary slavery still exists there).


THERE YOU GO! Your second post on page 13. Read it yourself.

Are you STILL gonna try and lie and say YOU DIDN'T call them slaves. This alone makes you a hypocrite and a liar. And your word ain't even worth fertilizer when you can lie and deny so blatantly.

I what celyn and soul flight have to say about your lying hypocrisy? Oh that's right, nothing at all bcuz their silence is supporting it.

3/26/2016 6:12:02 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from ivaiva:
Women in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan are slaves, I wish I had the power to change that.


THERE YOU GO AGAIN! This your third post on page 13 REPEATING the same thing YOU JUST LIED and claimed you didn't say. First you lied claiming you never said you don't sh¡t on foreign women then I quoted you.

Now I'm quoting you AGAIN. How deep does your lying hypocrisy really go?

3/26/2016 6:20:09 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

Mercedes_02
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AñatuyaAñatuya
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17 pages?



3/26/2016 6:22:26 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

celyn67
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,609)
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I don't think she's lying. She said what she thinks that is for them...them being slaves. YOU think of it as her "shi*ting" on them. She doesn't think that, so she would not be lying.

Are you REALLY this obsessed about all this?



[Edited 3/26/2016 6:23:07 AM ]

3/26/2016 6:23:01 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

flyfish77
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id have to o d on barbs to remotely slow down an read this rubbish,,whew. 10 inches deep should be a mix of pain an pleasure.

3/26/2016 6:46:10 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from celyn67:
I don't think she's lying. She said what she thinks that is for them...them being slaves. YOU think of it as her "shi*ting" on them. She doesn't think that, so she would not be lying.

Are you REALLY this obsessed about all this?


When you say "you don't shit on foreign women" then call them slaves bcuz YOU don't agree with their religious practices IS SH¡TTING ON THEM! Fu€K what you think! Who made her some kinda God over those ppl to be deciding their religion is slavery?

When you condemn something bcuz it doesn't fit or benefits you then suck on it like a fat c*ck when it does benefit you is hypocrisy. Oh it's OK for those girls to risk their lives bcuz "the law" says no one can touch them. But won't answer a question in a forum bcuz it's dangerous? Hypocrisy at its best.

And when you say "those women are slaves" then claim you never said it makes you a liar. Don't try and turn this into her having an opinion then insult me by calling me obsessed. Her statement about being slaves WAS her opinion that she tried to pass as fact. And when I called her out she turned lying hypocrite.

And like always all the backward ass, gov't worshipping women jump to support each other no matter how wrong or dishonest y'all are.

3/26/2016 7:44:28 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

celyn67
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I don't worship the government. That is what you come back with?

3/26/2016 7:54:05 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

sandycrabs
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Land O Lakes, WI
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I love her in glasses.

3/26/2016 8:34:25 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

celyn67
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Thanks. I need them just for reading. So...I wear them plenty. Reading small print at work, reading at home on paper & online.

3/26/2016 12:54:00 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

mylegsarecold
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Gainesville, FL
54, joined May. 2011


She would look good in anything, or nothing.

3/29/2016 12:47:31 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
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Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
THERE YOU GO! Your second post on page 13. Read it yourself.

I read it, I didn't see anything about shjtting in my post.
Also, "slave" is not an offensive word.

3/29/2016 1:12:00 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
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Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:

I what celyn and soul flight have to say about your lying hypocrisy? Oh that's right, nothing at all bcuz their silence is supporting it.


You are saying that not answering means supporting.

Do you have an answer on the "Afghanistan and Saudi women's believes in traditional biblical roles"? Or you will stay silent, supporting my statement that you don't know what you are talking about.

3/29/2016 10:03:28 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

mylegsarecold
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Seems more like the government shitting on women.


No women allowed: Tourist destinations where females are forbidden

Saudi Arabia: If you’re a solo female traveler looking to visit Saudi Arabia as a tourist, you’ll have an easier time booking a trip to Mars. As of 2010, tourist visas to Saudi Arabia don’t exist, and visas for business and to visit family are notoriously difficult for Americans to obtain. On top of that, women who do travel to the country must be accompanied by a male relative in order to be granted entry. And even then, Saudi Arabia isn’t exactly a welcoming destination for females. Women need a man, or government permission, to do just about anything – Saudi Arabian women aren’t even allowed to drive.

“We hear nonstop all this bad press about Iran and how terrible Iran is, but Saudi Arabia is much more oppressive of women,” notes Michelle May, a San Francisco-based journalist who has traveled extensively to Middle Eastern countries. “Their human rights record and their treatment of women are far worse than Iran.”

3/29/2016 10:13:15 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

chris3357m
Ashley, OH
29, joined Dec. 2012
online now!


so i take it you're not a govt supporter or with the bernie movement lol. i've agreed with some of the things you've said but idk my ma and my family would probably not have made it if it weren't for a little help from the govt at this point. i'm for more gov't influence. it's allowed me to go to college, to eat, to live rly. taking money from the greedy so that the needy can live another day, i don't see anything wrong with that. i don't believe we as americans care about each other anymore. we need govt to care when we don't want to give a shit about the welfare of our neighbours. and if a woman needs the govt to survive that doesn't make her a bad person. i'm not a bad person... idk you practically need govt assistance if you're an avg joe male or female. it's sad but true. i've said shit like this a million times no one has still offered to help me out of my situation or to even offer me a decent paying job that i can support a family on. i've stood in front of thousands of people at this point in my current state, whether i admitted it or not to everyone, no one rly cared. we need govt to step in and give a shit when shitty fathers or greedy people don't.

3/29/2016 11:14:08 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

mylegsarecold
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Gainesville, FL
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So your motto is:
"Ask not what you can do for country, but what your country can do for you"

3/29/2016 11:16:01 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

xray6
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,853)
Jacksonville, FL
28, joined Mar. 2012


Wait what?

3/29/2016 11:44:29 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

chris3357m
Ashley, OH
29, joined Dec. 2012
online now!


ugh....yeah, sure. when i pay $5 every time i pull out my own money, i guess it's kinda time to start asking wtf this country is doing for me, right? when i'm told to go to college but there are no jobs, yeah maybe it's time to start asking wtf this country is doing for anybody. no i dont want to be your slave. no i dont want to work for free or damn near it. yes i do want my own life. no im not going to agree to slave labor wages at least not for long or only so much as is necessary to sustain another day i guess. when we are forced to live off pennies a day. when i'm poor and the only upward mobility is going to war and dieing or being a homeless vet when i'm done. yeah somethings wrong with this country. no i dont want to submit to your dumb republican bullshit. you and people like you don't give a shit about this country. it's clear. and u want me to work so that you can get ahead. go f**k yourself.



[Edited 3/29/2016 11:46:13 AM ]

3/29/2016 1:02:10 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
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Leavittsburg, OH
35, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from mylegsarecold:
Seems more like the government shitting on women.


No women allowed: Tourist destinations where females are forbidden

Saudi Arabia: If you’re a solo female traveler looking to visit Saudi Arabia as a tourist, you’ll have an easier time booking a trip to Mars. As of 2010, tourist visas to Saudi Arabia don’t exist, and visas for business and to visit family are notoriously difficult for Americans to obtain. On top of that, women who do travel to the country must be accompanied by a male relative in order to be granted entry. And even then, Saudi Arabia isn’t exactly a welcoming destination for females. Women need a man, or government permission, to do just about anything – Saudi Arabian women aren’t even allowed to drive.

“We hear nonstop all this bad press about Iran and how terrible Iran is, but Saudi Arabia is much more oppressive of women,” notes Michelle May, a San Francisco-based journalist who has traveled extensively to Middle Eastern countries. “Their human rights record and their treatment of women are far worse than Iran.”
I think the United States should start doing this. Feminists would start learning to RESPECT MEN, again.

3/29/2016 1:03:46 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

soulflight
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Baltimore, MD
54, joined Apr. 2014


People respect people who earn it.

3/29/2016 1:10:35 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,965)
Leavittsburg, OH
35, joined Mar. 2013


Quote from chris3357m:
so i take it you're not a govt supporter or with the bernie movement lol. i've agreed with some of the things you've said but idk my ma and my family would probably not have made it if it weren't for a little help from the govt at this point. i'm for more gov't influence. it's allowed me to go to college, to eat, to live rly. taking money from the greedy so that the needy can live another day, i don't see anything wrong with that. i don't believe we as americans care about each other anymore. we need govt to care when we don't want to give a shit about the welfare of our neighbours. and if a woman needs the govt to survive that doesn't make her a bad person. i'm not a bad person... idk you practically need govt assistance if you're an avg joe male or female. it's sad but true. i've said shit like this a million times no one has still offered to help me out of my situation or to even offer me a decent paying job that i can support a family on. i've stood in front of thousands of people at this point in my current state, whether i admitted it or not to everyone, no one rly cared. we need govt to step in and give a shit when shitty fathers or greedy people don't.
Bernie's "Free College" will cost tax payers an estimated $70 billion PER YEAR.

Check your facts at the door.

If you like Socialism, so much, then go move to a Socialist country.

In a Capitalist economy, everything is "Supply vs Demand".

Don't like the expense of college, stop going. Get others to stop going.

Eventually employers wanting people with degrees will outnumber the actual people with a degree. Colleges seeing less applications would be forced to reduce tuition rates.

And DON'T EVER disrespect our military. If they weren't around, we would be speaking German, Chinese, Italian, Japanese, or Russian and have no freedoms.

If you don't want to serve your country, to get your college paid for, then get out of America.

3/29/2016 1:11:15 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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Gwynn Oak, MD
49, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from ivaiva:
You are saying that not answering means supporting.

Do you have an answer on the "Afghanistan and Saudi women's believes in traditional biblical roles"? Or you will stay silent, supporting my statement that you don't know what you are talking about.


I prove it to you. You choose NOT to accept my answer the same way you CHOOSE NOT to respect their religion, culture and lifestyle. You CHOOSE not to accept anything except what the Almighty Gov't tells you to bow for. And that's pathetic.

Just like you THINK you weaselled and slithered your way outta answering my question by tryna flip it back on me. That's typical of a lying ass, gov't worshipping, hypocrite like yourself. Why do you think I made this thread in the 1st place? To allow hypocrites like you to prove my point by doing EXACTLY what you're doing now.

Calling them "slaves" was NOTHING but your american, bullsh¡t, nasty, gov't worshipping, disrespectful, Feminazi OPINION.... of their religious and cultural belief. Bcuz they DON'T suck the gov'ts a** like you do.



So if I'm wrong, PROVE IT!!! By showing evidence that your claim of slavery IS NOTHING MORE than your dumb a** opinion. And NOT by playing your word and mind games. Bcuz it's not working anyway.

3/29/2016 1:28:11 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
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Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
I prove it to you. You choose NOT to accept my answer the same way you CHOOSE NOT to respect their religion, culture and lifestyle. You CHOOSE not to accept anything except what the Almighty Gov't tells you to bow for. And that's pathetic.

Just like you THINK you weaselled and slithered your way outta answering my question by tryna flip it back on me. That's typical of a lying ass, gov't worshipping, hypocrite like yourself. Why do you think I made this thread in the 1st place? To allow hypocrites like you to prove my point by doing EXACTLY what you're doing now.

Calling them "slaves" was NOTHING but your american, bullsh¡t, nasty, gov't worshipping, disrespectful, Feminazi OPINION.... of their religious and cultural belief. Bcuz they DON'T suck the gov'ts a** like you do.



So if I'm wrong, PROVE IT!!! By showing evidence that your claim of slavery IS NOTHING MORE than your dumb a** opinion. And NOT by playing your word and mind games. Bcuz it's not working anyway.


Are you able to stop with the insults for a minute, they do not contribute to the thread.

Answer one question:
According to you, do Afghanistan and Saudi women believe in traditional biblical roles?

3/29/2016 1:50:50 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,633)
Gwynn Oak, MD
49, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from celyn67:
I don't worship the government. That is what you come back with?


That's what I come back with? That's the issue being discussed here. I'm I suppose to come back with mortgage rates, BMW performance rating or Sanford & Son? Why should I talk about ANYTHING other than what the topic is? OK.....

On an earlier post you mentioned Christianity and being a supporter of such, forgive me if I read that wrong but assuming I'm correct....

In the Bible it says, "Spare NOT the rod and spoil the child!" And we ALL know what this means, even you deniers.

But the Almighty Gov't has landed this action "Child Abuse" at the petitioning of feminist for control purposes.

Now it's CLEAR that these are in complete opposition of each other. There's no combining, flip flopping or straddling fences on this subject. Now....

A parent decides to discipline their unruly child who's becoming increasingly disorient and disrespectful....

Are they "right" in accordance to their religious parental rights God says they have?

Or are they "wrong" based on the laws of Gov't who says this is now child abuse?

Which one?



[Edited 3/29/2016 1:52:34 PM ]

3/29/2016 1:54:45 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
Over 1,000 Posts (1,051)
Goleta, CA
48, joined Oct. 2007


Quote from mylegsarecold:
Seems more like the government shitting on women.


No women allowed: Tourist destinations where females are forbidden

Saudi Arabia: If you’re a solo female traveler looking to visit Saudi Arabia as a tourist, you’ll have an easier time booking a trip to Mars. As of 2010, tourist visas to Saudi Arabia don’t exist, and visas for business and to visit family are notoriously difficult for Americans to obtain. On top of that, women who do travel to the country must be accompanied by a male relative in order to be granted entry. And even then, Saudi Arabia isn’t exactly a welcoming destination for females. Women need a man, or government permission, to do just about anything – Saudi Arabian women aren’t even allowed to drive.

“We hear nonstop all this bad press about Iran and how terrible Iran is, but Saudi Arabia is much more oppressive of women,” notes Michelle May, a San Francisco-based journalist who has traveled extensively to Middle Eastern countries. “Their human rights record and their treatment of women are far worse than Iran.”

Any woman in Saudi Arabia, local or traveling as a tourist, cannot go anywhere without a man chaperone. Local women cannot open bank account without permission from their husbands, cannot drive, swim or participate in sports or interact freely with men that are not their relatives. Public places are segregated by gender and "mixing" might lead to charges. Separate entrances in public buildings for men and women.
How does this sound to an American proud with his/her freedom?

And all men and women there listen to their government!!!

3/29/2016 4:47:02 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

chris3357m
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Quote from enigmaathand:
Bernie's "Free College" will cost tax payers an estimated $70 billion PER YEAR.

Check your facts at the door.

If you like Socialism, so much, then go move to a Socialist country.

In a Capitalist economy, everything is "Supply vs Demand".

Don't like the expense of college, stop going. Get others to stop going.

Eventually employers wanting people with degrees will outnumber the actual people with a degree. Colleges seeing less applications would be forced to reduce tuition rates.

And DON'T EVER disrespect our military. If they weren't around, we would be speaking German, Chinese, Italian, Japanese, or Russian and have no freedoms.

If you don't want to serve your country, to get your college paid for, then get out of America.


we've already got plenty, and i mean trillions of dollars in debt from student loans. this is like roads. we all want it and we all should have access to it so we all help pay for it together collectively instead of trying to pass it on to a poor college student/grad who just wants to help society and be a productive member of society...

i like making things better, progression. progress over perfection... not going backwards but making the changes we need to keep moving forward. how about instead of leaving america we fix it and make it more suitable towards our needs and not the needs of greedy billionaires who have no interest in helping you the people.

nothing wrong with military but survival isn't about who is strongest and it never has been. you can be strong, sure. but it won't save you if you don't know how to use your muscle effectively and adapt quickly. us americans, we're getting outplayed and getting stupider by the moment as can be seen by the trump movement and people like you who just want to keep with the status quo cause you're all right. you're like the frog in boiling water. change is good. change is necessary. look at plants. if we force the genetics we want, the perfect apple, the apple is now open to attack, open to parasites and whatever else to come and ruin its beauty. but if we allow these plants to evolve and change, much like we can for humans, we survive and we adapt. we can't keep living the same way, thinking everything will work itself out. it won't. change is good, and a little help goes a long way in making those changes. no one ever got successful by theirselves. we should expect that if a factory is made rich by its hard working employees it rewards those employees and its community around it by making them rich too. not bleeding them dry and leaving.

3/29/2016 5:01:19 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

soulflight
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That big scary word...socialism...get a clue folks, stop being afraid of your own shadow.

Knowledge is power.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

3/29/2016 5:38:17 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

barrydalmi
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Ahh the prison PhD.

3/29/2016 7:23:24 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

bumblebee7
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Barry, I call that hand, and raise you $50k.

you've got 3 of a kind showing.

Are you in?

3/29/2016 7:32:25 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

chris3357m
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"Think you are free? Try going anywhere without money!" -Bill Hicks

3/29/2016 10:16:04 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
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Quote from chris3357m:
we've already got plenty, and i mean trillions of dollars in debt from student loans. this is like roads. we all want it and we all should have access to it so we all help pay for it together collectively instead of trying to pass it on to a poor college student/grad who just wants to help society and be a productive member of society...

i like making things better, progression. progress over perfection... not going backwards but making the changes we need to keep moving forward. how about instead of leaving america we fix it and make it more suitable towards our needs and not the needs of greedy billionaires who have no interest in helping you the people.

nothing wrong with military but survival isn't about who is strongest and it never has been. you can be strong, sure. but it won't save you if you don't know how to use your muscle effectively and adapt quickly. us americans, we're getting outplayed and getting stupider by the moment as can be seen by the trump movement and people like you who just want to keep with the status quo cause you're all right. you're like the frog in boiling water. change is good. change is necessary. look at plants. if we force the genetics we want, the perfect apple, the apple is now open to attack, open to parasites and whatever else to come and ruin its beauty. but if we allow these plants to evolve and change, much like we can for humans, we survive and we adapt. we can't keep living the same way, thinking everything will work itself out. it won't. change is good, and a little help goes a long way in making those changes. no one ever got successful by theirselves. we should expect that if a factory is made rich by its hard working employees it rewards those employees and its community around it by making them rich too. not bleeding them dry and leaving.
I'll tell you what, since you think it would be good for me to absorb the cost of YOUR education, I think YOU should absorb the cost of my $10,000 worth of credit card debt. Sounds fair to me. Their both debts. If the taxpayer have to tale on liability for YOUR choices, then YOU should be held responsible and liable for MY bad investment choices.

Sound like a plan, Stan?

3/30/2016 11:28:36 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

mylegsarecold
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Because socialism favors the community over the individual, the loss of
freedoms and rights is deemed undemocratic at best and totalitarian at worst.

3/30/2016 4:59:27 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

phil406
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Bernie Sanders has that same philosophy and it will Never work Chris.
It seems you should've gotten good grades, quit ditching in high school so you could've qualified for grants, scholarships not loans causing yourself to be in debt. Your debt isn't my problem but yours so grow a set, grow up and accept that you owe it not society. The military is always an option if you didn't want debt; you serve and the taxpayers would pay for your education!

3/30/2016 5:14:13 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

barrydalmi
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I am sooo glad that socialist road was there for me to drive to work today...

3/30/2016 6:55:18 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
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Quote from barrydalmi:
I am sooo glad that socialist road was there for me to drive to work today...
Good thing it was there for you to get to work. There are a lot of single mothers counting on YOUR paycheck to pay for THEIR irresponsible choices in men.

3/30/2016 6:55:45 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
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Quote from phil406:
Bernie Sanders has that same philosophy and it will Never work Chris.
It seems you should've gotten good grades, quit ditching in high school so you could've qualified for grants, scholarships not loans causing yourself to be in debt. Your debt isn't my problem but yours so grow a set, grow up and accept that you owe it not society. The military is always an option if you didn't want debt; you serve and the taxpayers would pay for your education!
Exactly.

3/30/2016 10:52:56 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

celyn67
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
That's what I come back with? That's the issue being discussed here. I'm I suppose to come back with mortgage rates, BMW performance rating or Sanford & Son? Why should I talk about ANYTHING other than what the topic is? OK.....

On an earlier post you mentioned Christianity and being a supporter of such, forgive me if I read that wrong but assuming I'm correct....

In the Bible it says, "Spare NOT the rod and spoil the child!" And we ALL know what this means, even you deniers.

But the Almighty Gov't has landed this action "Child Abuse" at the petitioning of feminist for control purposes.

Now it's CLEAR that these are in complete opposition of each other. There's no combining, flip flopping or straddling fences on this subject. Now....

A parent decides to discipline their unruly child who's becoming increasingly disorient and disrespectful....

Are they "right" in accordance to their religious parental rights God says they have?

Or are they "wrong" based on the laws of Gov't who says this is now child abuse?

Which one?

I know about a parent disciplining children. Don't assume mine were not disciplined.

Certain things WOULD BE abusive. There is a difference between spankings/disciplining a child & physical abuse. I also know God doesn't approve of abusiveness. It's not what is meant by disciplining a child.

4/2/2016 4:14:59 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from ivaiva:
Any woman in Saudi Arabia, local or traveling as a tourist, cannot go anywhere without a man chaperone. Local women cannot open bank account without permission from their husbands, cannot drive, swim or participate in sports or interact freely with men that are not their relatives. Public places are segregated by gender and "mixing" might lead to charges. Separate entrances in public buildings for men and women.
How does this sound to an American proud with his/her freedom?

And all men and women there listen to their government!!!


They also can't have several kids to get a check every month. They can't marry a man for his money then divorce to TAKE HALF HIS SH¡T. They can't destroy the family structure, use the kids as meal tickets, use kids as weapons in the court system against men. They can't force a man to take care of another man's kids. They can't redefine their religion or play the law against it.

They can't put their hands on men without getting hit back. They can't run around like Wh*res & Prostitutes (like they do here) disrespecting and dishonoring themselves, their families and their parents. They can't run off at the mouth JUST TO ANNOY AND PISS OFF the man who's providing EVERYTHING. They can't put their "feelings and emotions" over God and life itself like that's more important than ALL that exist either.

Everything you claim they CA and do is EXACTLY what american women who worship Gov't does here. So prove your slavery remark is nothing more than your american bullsh¡t opinion of their religion and culture????

4/2/2016 4:50:52 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

dr_i_got_answer
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Quote from chris3357m:
we've already got plenty, and i mean trillions of dollars in debt from student loans. this is like roads. we all want it and we all should have access to it so we all help pay for it together collectively instead of trying to pass it on to a poor college student/grad who just wants to help society and be a productive member of society...


Sorry Chris but I TOTALLY disagree. These ppl decided to put themselves in debt believing in that "american dream" BS. I had NO CHOICE in their decision to believe that or accept the debt. So why IN HELL should their debt be "FORCED" into me to help pay?

I made a decision to buy a house and start my own business right? Who do I get to push my mortgage on? Who do I get to give MY debt to?

When these ppl become nurses, psychiatrist, engineers, doctors, social workers and accountants not one damn dime of their earnings comes to me to pay a damn thing. So my earnings from my business shouldn't go to pay for NOTHING they put themselves in debt for.

Now if we were a village of maybe 500-1000 ppl and governed ourselves I can see and understand a collective effect for the greater good of everyone. But that would include building housing?shelter, hunting, protection of our village and our cultural/religious practices.

Not everybody paying for someone else's benefits of which they reap NO REWARD! That's plumb crazy.

4/3/2016 1:28:22 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  
ivaiva
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
They also can't have several kids to get a check every month. They can't marry a man for his money then divorce to TAKE HALF HIS SH¡T. They can't destroy the family structure, use the kids as meal tickets, use kids as weapons in the court system against men. They can't force a man to take care of another man's kids. They can't redefine their religion or play the law against it.

They can't put their hands on men without getting hit back. They can't run around like Wh*res & Prostitutes (like they do here) disrespecting and dishonoring themselves, their families and their parents. They can't run off at the mouth JUST TO ANNOY AND PISS OFF the man who's providing EVERYTHING. They can't put their "feelings and emotions" over God and life itself like that's more important than ALL that exist either.

Everything you claim they CA and do is EXACTLY what american women who worship Gov't does here. So prove your slavery remark is nothing more than your american bullsh¡t opinion of their religion and culture????


If I was you, I would move to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan right away and will get away from those American women.

4/3/2016 2:04:20 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

chris3357m
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Quote from dr_i_got_answer:
Sorry Chris but I TOTALLY disagree. These ppl decided to put themselves in debt believing in that "american dream" BS. I had NO CHOICE in their decision to believe that or accept the debt. So why IN HELL should their debt be "FORCED" into me to help pay?

I made a decision to buy a house and start my own business right? Who do I get to push my mortgage on? Who do I get to give MY debt to?

When these ppl become nurses, psychiatrist, engineers, doctors, social workers and accountants not one damn dime of their earnings comes to me to pay a damn thing. So my earnings from my business shouldn't go to pay for NOTHING they put themselves in debt for.

Now if we were a village of maybe 500-1000 ppl and governed ourselves I can see and understand a collective effect for the greater good of everyone. But that would include building housing?shelter, hunting, protection of our village and our cultural/religious practices.

Not everybody paying for someone else's benefits of which they reap NO REWARD! That's plumb crazy.


please explain to me again how nurses, psychiatrist, engineers, doctors, social workers and accountants aren't helpful to a society lol. i guess you should just go ahead and heal your own self when you lose an arm then or come down with a serious illness that could not be prevented. good luck buddy.

4/3/2016 3:54:25 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
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Well, by that logic, since we have to pay for YOUR education and training, then we don't have to pay you and you can't bill us for your services. We already paid for you to go to school, to learn your skills. We paid for your choices. So to pay for your services performed afterward, would be double-dipping

4/3/2016 5:19:50 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

chris3357m
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interesting thought no doubt enigma... i guess my concern with bernies idea is how do we maintain socialism without letting the greed at the top to ruin it for everyone. it is clear that some will try to take more or all of the pot, so how do we make sure to fairly distribute wealth and not become communism. that's what scares me and i think what scares us all. i do love the socialist programs we have, i can't argue against them. but just to make sure that we can not go down the wrong route, how can we assure that? that i think is the hard part and the part now that i need convincing of more than anything. i am all for helping people over helping businesses profit. we all enjoy certain things that are provided to us thru capitalism. will the right people stand up to fill the positions of those who refuse to help now that they dont reap all the rewards? i would hope so and i would think this will make for a better america. let the greedy people leave and replace them with more caring humanistic people who actually really give a shit about people and not their wallets. save people instead of letting them die for profits. idk. it is all open and unknown and you're right we can look at the other failures of other nations. can we overcome these things as educated americans? i rly don't know.

all i know is i dont want to keep with the status quo or the way things are now and again bernie seems like the best option as i haven't caught him in a lie yet. can you say the same for any other politician? not rly. bernie is stating facts, the real problems facing the working and middle class. letting us not be used and abused. i like that. i'm for that. but can we maintain this for a long period of time or is it only temporary? how do we create permananence and fairness and equality that will last.

how can we convince the greedy people like enigma who have been used and abused that this is good for them too? ya they pay higher taxes but they can go to college or whatever they want to do now without fear of failure, without the floor falling out from under you. if that floor is already provided for them or they can keep their floor, how do we appeal to their needs too? is it enough to allow capitalism to exist so they can be happy too? idk. they will always want more? i mean they are people too we don't just want to go with their answer which is to move to a country that suits them, no. so how do we accomdate these people in a way where they can be satisfied too? because i too still would love to shoot for more, and keep doing good - i've been a top producer in sales. i know i'm capable of great things if given the chance... you know i'd love to be rewarded for hard work still even after socialism is in place. what can we do to reward advancement?

4/3/2016 5:36:12 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

soulflight
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http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

4/3/2016 6:46:34 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
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Quote from soulflight:http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America-when-you-are-not-a-25-to-40-year-old-white-male-without-kids


Fixed that for you.

4/3/2016 7:01:50 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

soulflight
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Quote from enigmaathand:
life sucks when-you-are a 25-to-40-year-old-white-male-without-kids who can't read or take personal responsibility for his own choices in life




[Edited 4/3/2016 7:02:13 PM ]

4/3/2016 10:59:51 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

enigmaathand
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Excuse me? I admit my decisions have put me in my own financial dire straits.

You obviously don't know about Work Opportunity Tax Credits and how public assistance works.

You know, that assistance all you have to do is get knocked up to get, but I could only get(and it would only be $200/month in food stamps)if I were both unemployed and homeless?

4/4/2016 7:43:55 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

digital_knight
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Quote from enigmaathand:


You know, that assistance all you have to do is get knocked up to get, but I could only get(and it would only be $200/month in food stamps)if I were both unemployed and homeless?




And you would barley survive on that .

4/4/2016 10:49:45 AM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

soulflight
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I know exactly how it works. I managed the benefits for 40+ adults... developmentally delayed individuals living on their own. Some worked, some didn't, some couldn't. None who were fully dependent on assistance were doing well.

I have cared for the elderly.. from indigent to uber rich, worked in hospice, counseled young mothers, supported our veterans..I wouldn't want to trade places with any of them and I wish we could do more and do it differently. Never have I felt any of them were the reason for my life status.

At one point in my life, I was also a single mother who qualified for nothing while making less than $5 hrly.

At another point, I was homeless.

I was very successful professionally....after my kids were grown and no longer needed my 24/7 physical/emotional/financial support.

I always worked.

All while living in Ohio. Your life experience is a very narrow perspective of reality sir and yet you apply it to everyone (with negative stuff heavily held against women)

We've all had our own challenges, good times, bad times..it's all relevent

The one thing I have found to be consistant in all walks of life is that people who b*tch and moan and constantly point fingers at others tend to have the least satisfaction, happiness and success in life.

Any possible good msg you may have to offer, any minimal responsibility you say you have claimed is diminished and fully overshadowed by your b*tching, moaning, poor-me, sad-sack attitude.

4/4/2016 8:02:30 PM Women Who Worship Gov't Are Lousy Ass S/O's!  

barrydalmi
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I might add that men over 40 who have shirts in which to take a picture tend to be more successful too.