How do you see those verses relevant to my questions, slowpoke? How do those verses prevent you from honestly answering my questions, slowpoke?

You just can't bring yourself to be honest and sincere, right slowpoke? You are a phony, dishonest and insincere Christian, slowpoke, and you prove it time and time again by refusing to answer questions.

kb - Since you consider the situations on your list to be absurd then it looks like you do not even want to believe the words of Jesus Himself. And unless you can prove that all of the scriptures below are NOT true then for someone to answer your question the way you want them to will prove absolutely nothing.

Luke 17:27-29 Jesus speaking

(27) They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

(28) Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

(29) But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.


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(Genesis 6:13) And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

(Genesis 6:17) And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

(Genesis 7:21) And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

(Matthew 24:39) And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

(2nd Peter 3:6) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:


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(Genesis 19:24) Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah a brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

(Deuteronomy 29:23) And that the whole land thereof is brimstone, and salt, and burning, that it is not sown, nor beareth, nor any grass groweth therein, like the overthrow of Sodom, and Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboim, which the LORD overthrew in his anger, and in his wrath:

(Psalms 11:6) Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and a brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.

(Isaiah 13:19) And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

(Jeremiah 20:16) And let that man be as the cities which the LORD overthrew, and repented not: and let him hear the cry in the morning, and the shouting at noontide;

(Jeremiah 50:40) As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD; so shall no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein.

(Ezekiel 16:50) And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

(Amos 4:11) I have overthrown some of you, as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and ye were as a firebrand plucked out of the burning: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

(Zephaniah 2:9) Therefore as I live, saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Surely Moab shall be as Sodom, and the children of Ammon as Gomorrah, even the breeding of nettles, and saltpits, and a perpetual desolation: the residue of my people shall spoil them, and the remnant of my people shall possess them

(2nd Peter 2:6) And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

(Jude 7) Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

No kb - it does not work that way. If you do not want to accept the situations in the scriptures I posted as something that is along the same line as the things on your list then you are talking out of both sides of you mouth.

You are the one who is trying to make some point with those verses in order to evade truthfully answering my questions so explain how they are relevant, slowpoke?

Frankly, Ludlow, I believe Jesus was God incarnate in the flesh and I don't believe for one second that Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons or for any reason. But if you regardless of what Jesus taught do because of what you read in those verses you posted you are certainty not a Christian follower of Jesus. Even if those verses were true which they are not but even if they were it is quite clear that God is quite capable of killing people, destroying cities and even destroying everyone in the world WITHOUT ordering man to do his killing for Him.

I asked you two questions, slowpoke. Are you going to run and hide again and continue to arrogantly blaspheme God/Jesus or are you going to truthfully from the heart answer them?

First of all I do not understand your logic by saying you don't see where Jesus gave any approval of those events. Are you implying that those events never happened or are you saying that Jesus would not approve of it if it did happen?

And then you say that it was like Jesus reading an old news paper. That sounds like you are saying Jesus does not really know if it is true or not.

First of all I do not understand your logic by saying you don't see where Jesus gave any approval of those events. Are you implying that those events never happened or are you saying that Jesus would not approve of it if it did happen?

As a professed Christian follower of Jesus its your place to strive to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him and you cannot do that believing about God like those who killed Him. Anyone in this day and time who believes it is righteous and just to stone and burn their brethren to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons and believe that is what Jesus would order man to do is spiritually INSANE and if that is how you want to go to the grave so be it.

Because (just like your list) the list I posted shows that things of this nature were something that God Himself was involved in when He was destroying unholy people.

God is like a firm but fair boss. He is like a parole board, pardonong the remorseful, making the remorseful suffer a little longer (forever, if they don't repenent before death).

There is no contradiction between the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New. To say there is is to make the Gnostic error.

DOES A JEWISH TEMPLE WITH BIBLICAL SPECIFICATIONS HAVE TO BE REBUILT??

Some End-Time Groups who wrongly interpret Daniel 9:27a, and who believe in a 7-year Tribulation, {Starting with a New Jewish Temple} are now spreading false rumors that religious Jews are now planning to build a Temple or are planning to tear down the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque in order to rebuild a Jewish Temple to Biblical specifications and will then REINSTITUTE animal sacrifices???

However there are several big problems with this scenario: All 21 Arab Muslim nations including Pakistan which has many nuclear bombs would then immediately declare an all-out Holy War on Israel, and the Israeli government fully understands this. I know this for I was a missionary in Israel. A Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications would then take at least 7 years to build during this continuous war with the 21 Muslim nations.

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Acts 17:24: The God who made the world and everything in it ...does not live in temples built by hands. The “outer court” of the TEMPLE OF GOD in Rev 11:2 would be the saints on earth who are also the TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD!!

Because God is not a blood thirsty murderous barbarian, a killer of both animals and humans if humans do not do as He says. You don't really believe slitting the throat of a goat once a year or every day or every week and saying please accept this animal blood as a offering and forgive me of my sin works, do you, cup?

As far as the scriptures attributed to Jesus you posted I concur with what FJO said:

"Slowpoke, it seems there are only 4 verses that Jesus said in your collection, and I don't see where Jesus gave any approval of those events, He was simply recalling them as the earlier scriptures said. He was like reading an old news paper. You just confuse the issue, as you have done before."

You are morally confused, dishonest, insincere, spiritually lost and blasphemous, slowpoke. You haven't changed a bit in the half-dozen or so years I have tried to reason with you on this board. You can't stand the truth of the Masters teachings, slowpoke, and you squirm around in everyway you can to evade a honest discussion and inculcating them into your heart, mind and soul. Anyone in this day and time who believes it is righteous and just to stone and burn their brethren to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons and believe that is what Jesus would order man to do is spiritually INSANE and if that is how you want to go to the grave so be it.

News flash: The Jews rejected our Christ. Romans 11 means God is not finished with physical Israel.

Nonsensical. God didn't kill Adam and Eve and that was written in a time period where people had no idea what the sun was, or where it went at night and everything was viewed thru the eyes of ignorance and superstition. You don't really believe slitting the throat of a goat once a year or every day or every week and saying please accept this animal blood as a offering and forgive me of my sin works, do you?

As a professed Christian follower of Jesus its your place to strive to believe as Jesus believed and thus to become more like Him and you cannot do that believing about God like those who killed Him. Anyone in this day and time who believes it is righteous and just to stone and burn their brethren to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons and believe that is what Jesus would order man to do is spiritually INSANE and if that is how you want to go to the grave so be it.

Quote from freegratis... Well obviously there were Jews who accepted the same Christ the Gentiles accepted as Christ. But Romans 11 says most of the Jews did not, but will after the fullness of the Gentiles is complete.
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Where in Romans 11 does it say most of the Jews did not accept Him?

CLV Ro 11:26 And thus all Israel shall be saved, according as it is written, Arriving out of Zion shall be the Rescuer. He will be turning away irreverence from Jacob.