| 10/14/2016 10:10:00 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                            | 1. yes |  
                            | 2. no |  
                            | 3. in between |  
 Do you think that there is such thing as independence...to me it is between yes and no...yes to the certain extent when you have your own things you called your own....
 And no because you wouldn't have those things without help...and sometimes we all need help
 
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                      | 10/14/2016 7:05:36 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | amusicluvr 
  Salem, OR
 64, joined Nov. 2013
 
 
 | No. There is pseudo independence, but the fact remains that all are linked. It may be through a parallel world in the 11th dimension, but the link is there, and joins us all. Physicists cal it 'Entanglement'. Buddhists call it "Universal Mind". Pagans call it 'Sympathetic Magic'. The idea that all things at some point are touching, and touched by, all other things is at the root of many religions, philosophies, etc. It is so wide spread because it is true. Private Property is an illusion. Privacy is an illusion. Individuality is an illusion. 
 Children know. Sometimes help feels good, like when your mother helps you to relax by rubbing your back. . Sometimes help hurts a little...like when a doctor gives you a vaccination shot. By the time most people become adults, they forget childhood wisdom, and convince themselves that help always feels good, and that what hurts in the least is not help.
 
 It dos not matter how independent you are, or are not, IF you are adult enough to grow up, and build a life on something other than whining.
 
 
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                      | 10/14/2016 8:11:26 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          No. There is pseudo independence, but the fact remains that all are linked. It may be through a parallel world in the 11th dimension, but the link is there, and joins us all. Physicists cal it 'Entanglement'. Buddhists call it "Universal Mind". Pagans call it 'Sympathetic Magic'. The idea that all things at some point are touching, and touched by, all other things is at the root of many religions, philosophies, etc. It is so wide spread because it is true. Private Property is an illusion. Privacy is an illusion. Individuality is an illusion.
 Children know. Sometimes help feels good, like when your mother helps you to relax by rubbing your back. . Sometimes help hurts a little...like when a doctor gives you a vaccination shot. By the time most people become adults, they forget childhood wisdom, and convince themselves that help always feels good, and that what hurts in the least is not help.
 
 It dos not matter how independent you are, or are not, IF you are adult enough to grow up, and build a life on something other than whining.
  exactly what I mean talking I'm whining and you still put up a fake facade and participate my threads...so high school  
 
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                      | 10/14/2016 8:19:05 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  bumblebee7
 
  Fort Payne, AL
 61, joined Apr. 2011
 
 
 | There use to be...but the libs took care of that. 
 Claiming to make us more free, but we lost a lot of freedom in the process.
 
 I remember when a person could hitch hike across the country in relative safety....now that's freedom...and independence.
 
 
 but technically speaking: independence is not depending on anyone...just yourself.
 
 
 
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                      | 10/14/2016 8:24:16 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          There use to be...but the libs took care of that.true...nowadays we all depending not just anyone but we depending on something as well
 Claiming to make us more free, but we lost a lot of freedom in the process.
 
 I remember when a person could hitch hike across the country in relative safety....now that's freedom...and independence.
 
 
 but technically speaking: independence is not depending on anyone...just yourself.
 
 
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                      | 10/14/2016 9:12:00 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | flyfish77 
  Conyers, GA
 51, joined Jul. 2014
 
 
 | o god my brain is doing 500 m p h,an i aint got time for this one............. 
 
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                      | 10/14/2016 9:23:51 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  lightbrownie1
 Johnston, IA
 48, joined Feb. 2016
 
 
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 but technically speaking: independence is not depending on anyone...just yourself.
 Eaxctly Bee...
 There is nothing wrong with a women being independent.
 
 Go back to 40's-70's.
 Wifes were dependent on the husbands to take care of the family, so the wife's stayed home with very little education and no college.
 
 Im sure those wifes had stories to tell, from husbands, cheating, never home, or possibly just wanting to get out of their marriage.
 With some wifes not having any where to turn or no way to start their own life financially for their children, some stayed, unhappy and possibly abused.
 
 I believe that those mothers raised thier daughters to get education, their sons to love their wifes.
 This would be some reason why women are more independent now then ever before.
 
 So...hey don't knock libs...cause i believe it had to start some where, and whether im wrong or right..the point is being educated and determined to provide for self...no matter what.
 
 
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                      | 10/14/2016 11:07:07 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          Eaxctly Bee...in the mid 40s men went to WWII and women started working...crazy times I heardThere is nothing wrong with a women being independent.
 
 Go back to 40's-70's.
 Wifes were dependent on the husbands to take care of the family, so the wife's stayed home with very little education and no college.
 
 Im sure those wifes had stories to tell, from husbands, cheating, never home, or possibly just wanting to get out of their marriage.
 With some wifes not having any where to turn or no way to start their own life financially for their children, some stayed, unhappy and possibly abused.
 
 I believe that those mothers raised thier daughters to get education, their sons to love their wifes.
 This would be some reason why women are more independent now then ever before.
 
 So...hey don't knock libs...cause i believe it had to start some where, and whether im wrong or right..the point is being educated and determined to provide for self...no matter what.
 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 3:54:05 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  enigmaathand
 
  Leavittsburg, OH
 36, joined Mar. 2013
 
 
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                          in the mid 40s men went to WWII and women started working...crazy times I heard
                        Sorry, but a 2011 study has proven that women SEEK rich men to depend on much MORE, than they did in the 1940s and 1950s. 
 Once again, FACT proves some gold digger female WRONG AGAIN
 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 6:38:47 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  bumblebee7
 
  Fort Payne, AL
 61, joined Apr. 2011
 
 
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                          Eaxctly Bee...There is nothing wrong with a women being independent.
 
 Go back to 40's-70's.
 Wifes were dependent on the husbands to take care of the family, so the wife's stayed home with very little education and no college.
 
 Im sure those wifes had stories to tell, from husbands, cheating, never home, or possibly just wanting to get out of their marriage.
 With some wifes not having any where to turn or no way to start their own life financially for their children, some stayed, unhappy and possibly abused.
 
 I believe that those mothers raised thier daughters to get education, their sons to love their wifes.
 This would be some reason why women are more independent now then ever before.
 
 So...hey don't knock libs...cause i believe it had to start some where, and whether im wrong or right..the point is being educated and determined to provide for self...no matter what.
 
 
 I wouldn't put too much faith into a time period you didn't live in.
 
 There is a lot of fake propaganda from all of this that you've been fed.
 
 My Grand Mother was a top stock broker with Paine Webber, starting back in the 1940's.
 
 I was around back then, and no little girl talked about wanting a job....they talked about being at home, with kids, while hubby worked.
 
 
 And your not independent at all...in fact you depend on more men than ever before.
 
 Before, they told their hubby what went broke and he fixed it or found a man qualified to fix it.
 
 Now, when things go wrong, you have to call different men to fix it.
 
 Your not independent at all....you work all the easy jobs, knowing men are there to catch you when you fall.
 
 
 now...for the record, back in the less modern days all the way back to the beginning times...People really needed each other to survive...all people.
 
 There was no way to totally survive on your own....So, they went by the barter system...and you better come thru on your part, or no one would help you again....your word and character had to be good too...or no one would help you....etc, etc
 
 and that's what made us better people than we are these days.
 
 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 6:47:45 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  bumblebee7
 
  Fort Payne, AL
 61, joined Apr. 2011
 
 
 | To ad. 
 The roads, your car, your house, the lawnmower, your job....on and on and on...were all created and maintained by men.
 
 So without them...you'd have no job, car, roads, electricity, water and on and on and on.
 
 
 you just take these things for granted, but without them...there you are at home, no independence and taking care of the home front.
 
 and you call yourself independent???
 
 not on your life.
 
 Furthermore...every job I ever worked where there were women there....we got the hard work, they got the easy work...and when they couldn't do something...the men were called over to do it for them....all at the same exact pay.
 
 Independent?
 
 not on your life.
 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 6:50:49 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | cupocheer 
  Assumption, IL
 68, joined May. 2010
 
 
 | Yes, OP ~~ it's in Missouri 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 7:26:13 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | Albachiara73 
  Milan
 Italy
 44, joined Sep. 2016
 
 
 | In between... Everything I have I got on my own, I come from a big family we had to do it ourselves. Right now I have a knee injury and am dependants on people's help for other things, showering, driving and what not. Nobody has complete control. 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 9:38:21 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          Yes, OP ~~ it's in Missouri
                        and it applies to this topic how  
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 10:02:28 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  bumblebee7
 
  Fort Payne, AL
 61, joined Apr. 2011
 
 
 | If you can be dropped into the middle of the Sahara Desert and make it out, totally by yourself. 
 then your independent.
 
 Personally speaking of the pioneer days...I think we were better off needing each other to survive. The standard of how you'd have to act to get such help....made us better people.
 
 Look at the mess we are now.
 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 10:25:06 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  easttowest72
 
  Bremen, GA
 45, joined Sep. 2014
 
 
 | My mom use to talk about my dad getting mad because she got a drivers licens. Men wanted women dependant on them so they could treat them like crap. Its nice that my name is the only one on the deed and I dont have to put up with a mans crap 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 11:05:24 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  playingindirt
 
  Eugene, OR
 61, joined Mar. 2014
 
 
 | everybody depends on somebody somewhere sometimes. 
 independence is an illusion that people convince themselves of so they can feel confident and capable.
 
 the closest people will ever come to true independence is to have ability to think for ones self.
 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 1:05:25 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  enigmaathand
 
  Leavittsburg, OH
 36, joined Mar. 2013
 
 
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                          In between... Everything I have I got on my own, I come from a big family we had to do it ourselves. Right now I have a knee injury and am dependants on people's help for other things, showering, driving and what not. Nobody has complete control.
                        Capricorns are known for suffering chronic knee injuries/issues. It is their weak spot, so to speak. 
 Just remember R.I.C.E
 
 Rest
 Ice
 Compression
 Elevation
 
 That is the key to healing any knee injury.
 
 6-8 weeks, you'll be right as rain, and AVOID knee SURGERY at all costs. The surgery does NOT aid in healing, but rather just makes it less painful to be active and is worse for your knee than the natural healing process.
 
 I tore my MCL, about 4 years ago, and couldn't afford health care, so I kinda had to to do some research on it.
 
 Should have just went and had a few kids, then I could have gotten all my treatment for free..........
 
 I love paying $1,300 just to walk through the door of an emergency room......
  
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 2:11:20 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          My mom use to talk about my dad getting mad because she got a drivers licens. Men wanted women dependant on them so they could treat them like crap. Its nice that my name is the only one on the deed and I dont have to put up with a mans crap
                        Being one sided are we....as well as still talking shit and act like it never happen 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 3:39:47 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  enigmaathand
 
  Leavittsburg, OH
 36, joined Mar. 2013
 
 
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                          women depend on somebody somewhere most of the time.And they have had 100 years to try and do that and we see how the results of that is working out........
 independence is an illusion that women convince themselves of so they can feel confident and capable.
 
 the closest women will ever come to true independence is to have ability to think for ones self.
 
 Just watch anything Hillary Clinton SAYS, compared with what she DOES
 
 
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                      | 10/15/2016 4:23:45 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  easttowest72
 
  Bremen, GA
 45, joined Sep. 2014
 
 
 | My parents were married till dad died. I remember what he was like. I'm not taking crap from men. I'm not one to act like something isn't happening. But I don't have a man living with me. Just my kids 
 
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                      | 10/16/2016 3:47:17 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | cavie59 
  Enid, OK
 57, joined Feb. 2010
 
 
 | No one is completely independent, as long as they live in cities, towns, or villages. 
 Every person must at one time or another depend on someone for goods and services.
 
 
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                      | 10/16/2016 3:53:21 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  Mercedes_02
 
  AñatuyaAñatuya
 Australia
 101, joined Dec. 2014
 
 
 | If you're single yes. 
 In some cases blokes/woman in a relationship use the net secretly
 trying to convince others their relationship is up the shit they
 then try and talk themselves up as being independent when in reality
 all their doing is cheating on their partner themselves so they
 get to keep the material shit they gathered with their partner!~
 
 Single is the best by far!~
 
 
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                      | 10/16/2016 6:28:52 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  celyn67
 
  San Antonio, TX
 49, joined Jan. 2016
 
 
 | ^^^True...everyone depends on others for something. 
 
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                      | 10/16/2016 7:09:44 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  lightbrownie1
 Johnston, IA
 48, joined Feb. 2016
 
 
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                            Eaxctly Bee...There is nothing wrong with a women being independent.
 
 Go back to 40's-70's.
 Wifes were dependent on the husbands to take care of the family, so the wife's stayed home with very little education and no college.
 
 Im sure those wifes had stories to tell, from husbands, cheating, never home, or possibly just wanting to get out of their marriage.
 With some wifes not having any where to turn or no way to start their own life financially for their children, some stayed, unhappy and possibly abused.
 
 I believe that those mothers raised thier daughters to get education, their sons to love their wifes.
 This would be some reason why women are more independent now then ever before.
 
 So...hey don't knock libs...cause i believe it had to start some where, and whether im wrong or right..the point is being educated and determined to provide for self...no matter what.
 
                          I wouldn't put too much faith into a time period you didn't live in.
                           
                          There is a lot of fake propaganda from all of this that you've been fed.
                           
                          My Grand Mother was a top stock broker with Paine Webber, starting back in the 1940's.
                           
                          I was around back then, and no little girl talked about wanting a job....they talked about being at home, with kids, while hubby worked.
                          
                           
                          And your not independent at all...in fact you depend on more men than ever before.
                           
                          Before, they told their hubby what went broke and he fixed it or found a man qualified to fix it.
                           
                          Now, when things go wrong, you have to call different men to fix it.
                           
                          Your not independent at all....you work all the easy jobs, knowing men are there to catch you when you fall.
                          
                           
                          now...for the record, back in the less modern days all the way back to the beginning times...People really needed each other to survive...all people.
                           
                          There was no way to totally survive on your own....So, they went by the barter system...and you better come thru on your part, or no one would help you again....your word and character had to be good too...or no one would help you....etc, etc
                           
                          and that's what made us better people than we are these days.
                         
 Bee...you are probably right, it was my theroey, but u just repeated what i said about little girls. They talked about getting married, having kids while hubby worked.
 We can't really speak much on everyone in those days...(your right) especially those who was not born.
 
 However, in my day and time, yes I was married to a hard working man. Yes, i stayed home, but when my kids got a little older I worked.
 
 Yes...i do have to depend on man to fix a car( sometimes)but my independents allows me to pay.
  However, because of men who try to get over on a woman, u will see some women becoming mechanics, or a lot of us women don't just go with the okie doke when a man tells us, you need this or this has to be replace.
 We do our research, sometimes teach our sons...and they can fix it!
 
   
 
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                      | 10/16/2016 9:17:30 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  easttowest72
 
  Bremen, GA
 45, joined Sep. 2014
 
 
 | If women had to depend on men we would have starved to death by now. 
 
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                      | 10/16/2016 9:21:48 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          No one is completely independent, as long as they live in cities, towns, or villages.
 Every person must at one time or another depend on someone for goods and services.
   
 
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                      | 10/18/2016 1:34:44 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  lareveur
 
  La Follette, TN
 33, joined May. 2013
 
 
 | I voted in between. Mainly because even if you literally achieved everything completely on your own (example: being a mountain man / woman) you still depended on the resources of this planet to provide it for you. So, there really is no such thing (on a humanistic level, at least) as "pure / true independence." Which I find a frightening prospect seeing as how shitty we're treating this planet. Enter Agent Smith's "you are a virus" quote.
 
 
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                      | 10/24/2016 8:31:33 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          My parents were married till dad died. I remember what he was like. I'm not taking crap from men. I'm not one to act like something isn't happening. But I don't have a man living with me. Just my kids
                        you know what I meant 
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 5:02:25 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | It's hard to understand the stupid  no wonder she crushed your balls lil boy blue  
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 8:22:25 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
 | stay on topic b*tchIt's hard to understand the stupid   no wonder she crushed your balls lil boy blue 
 
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 8:43:58 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | ^^^ Tgirl b*tch  
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 8:58:17 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 9:05:12 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | grillocks 
  Chesapeake, VA
 35, joined Dec. 2015
 
 
 | Why so much talk of this independence thing? What does it matter? 
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 9:10:30 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | dr_cracker 
  Beverly Hills, CA
 46, joined Sep. 2016
 
 
 | Yes there is such a thing 
 Independence is a small cruise ship owned and operated by American Cruise Lines. She was built in 2010 by Chesapeake Shipbuilding in Salisbury, Maryland for overnight coastal, river, and inland waterway cruising within the continental United States.
 
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 9:22:24 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  redical
 
  Vine Grove, KY
 30, joined Oct. 2016
 
 
 | I'm totally dependent on others right now... So much so I got stuck on the toilet the other day and had to wait 45 minutes for someone to come help me  
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 9:29:01 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | grillocks 
  Chesapeake, VA
 35, joined Dec. 2015
 
 
 | Awww  not funny but a little funny... 
 
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                      | 10/25/2016 9:33:29 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  redical
 
  Vine Grove, KY
 30, joined Oct. 2016
 
 
 | Girl it wasn't funny at first, but once reality set in I was laughing at myself.. It's funny  
 
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                      | 10/28/2016 8:24:49 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          Why so much talk of this independence thing? What does it matter?
                        why answer a question with a question 
 
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                      | 10/28/2016 8:25:22 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
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                          Yes there is such a thingNot the part of the subject but ok
 Independence is a small cruise ship owned and operated by American Cruise Lines. She was built in 2010 by Chesapeake Shipbuilding in Salisbury, Maryland for overnight coastal, river, and inland waterway cruising within the continental United States.
 
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 5:10:41 AM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
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                          why answer a question with a question
                         It's better than answering with stupidity
  dark stupid  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 1:13:52 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
 | and nobody cares about you....you're irrelevantIt's better than answering with stupidity   dark stupid 
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 1:22:25 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | Your IQ is irrelevant  I guess that's why you're still going to school at your age  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 1:46:02 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
 | bye feliciaYour IQ is irrelevant   I guess that's why you're still going to school at your age 
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 1:56:30 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | Get on the bus... you need to go back to school  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:37:32 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dr_i_got_answer
 
  Gwynn Oak, MD
 50, joined Jun. 2014
 
 
 |  exactly what I mean talking I'm whining and you still put up a fake facade and participate my threads...so high school 
 Amusicluvr is a mixed up mangina muf**ka who don't understand half the sh*t he say out of his own mouth.
  
 Asking him a question HE THINKS will expose a woman is like asking a closet homosexual to expose himself.
  
 He's an idiot!
  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:44:58 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | There you go dark stupid your daddy came to your rescue  like father like son...two idiots who are LOSER's  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:45:22 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dr_i_got_answer
 
  Gwynn Oak, MD
 50, joined Jun. 2014
 
 
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                          There use to be...but the libs took care of that.
 Claiming to make us more free, but we lost a lot of freedom in the process.
 
 I remember when a person could hitch hike across the country in relative safety....now that's freedom...and independence.
 
 
 but technically speaking: independence is not depending on anyone...just yourself.
 
 So if these women are depending gov't for housing through all these fair housing, reduced housing and mortgage programs then they're NOT independent.
 
 They rely on gov't to tell them HOW to raise their kids, protection, knowing right from wrong and as a moral compass. ALL THE THINGS THE MAN (the head of the family) is suppose to do. And call THAT independence??
  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:47:00 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | I know one thing they're not going to depend on you for anything dr. Stupid  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:48:25 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dr_i_got_answer
 
  Gwynn Oak, MD
 50, joined Jun. 2014
 
 
 | There you go dark stupid your daddy came to your rescue  like father like son...two idiots who are LOSER's 
 Why looky here. Here's the Fag who claims a 5yr fight but b*tch out to avoid being blocked.
  
 Like that's gonna honestly stop it.
  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:52:46 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | Guess it's like you telling the truth isn't it  NOT  tell your little boy to go back to school he needs a lot of help  and you can tell your inner self to shut the f**k up   
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:54:23 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dr_i_got_answer
 
  Gwynn Oak, MD
 50, joined Jun. 2014
 
 
 | I know one thing they're not going to depend on you for anything dr. Stud muffin 
 You damn right!
  
 Bcuz unless a woman is willing to take her RIGHTFUL place in my kingdom she will live among the peasants and eat scraps from the streets.
  
 I AM Lörd and Master of ALL that I survey and in MY house I set the rules.
  
 But I'm sure they won't be depending on you either. With your hands busy beating off 15 times a day.
  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 2:56:43 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
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                          and nobody cares about you....you're irrelevant
                         Listen to your son
  
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 3:01:02 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      | marriedncheatin 
  Twin Falls, ID
 50, joined Jul. 2012
 
 
 | dark_gable0585"stay on topic b*tch" 
 
 
 Your boy is right
  
 Possible 'chatting' detected.y you have already posted in the tread recently.
 
 
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                      | 10/29/2016 7:55:33 PM | Is there such thing as independence |  | 
                    
                      |  dark_gable0585
 
  Sacramento, CA
 31, joined Feb. 2014
 
 
 | desperate broListen to your son 
 
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