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followjesusonly
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[]Quote from ludlowlowell:[/][]KB thinks God is a milquetoast Who never punishes anybody.[/]

===================================================================

The wages of sin is death. Rom 6:23

Your problem is you don't believe the bible. You pick and choose like it's a buffet.

Jesus says to pray to the Father, and you defy him and pray to dead people like a common pagan.

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2/7/2017 12:10:23 PM Is the Book of Revelation God-breathed Scripture? | Page 3  
freegratis
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Quote from kb2222:
You are the one who is lying to yourself. Either that or you are so perverted you don't know righteousness from wickedness or you don't care and you believe God/Jesus doesn't either. For you to profess to be a Christian and believe God/Jesus would order man to...

"slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" and to "kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves"... is utterly DESPICABLE.

What the hell is wrong with you that you believe that is what Jesus would order man to do? What the hell is wrong with you that you believe it righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons?

You saying that to "obey is better than sacrifice" is utter nonsense. How in the hell does that justify in your mind the slaughter of men, women, children, infants and even animals? Or, the killing of non-believers? Or the killing of sons of sinners?

Is your mind truly so perverted that you actually believe it is righteous and just to kill people for all those reasons, freegratis?

Is your mind so perverted that you actually believe that is what Jesus would order man to do, freegratis?


Maybe you should add Deuteronomy 20:16-18 to your list. But it explains it right there.

“But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite, just as the Lord your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the Lord your God.

Does that help you get the theme of when God orders a judgement you seem to disagree with?

What do you think is the appropriate judgement on all those listed who breathe? Do you have a better plan in mind than God?

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bigd9832
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Again, only the insane can believe that they can know what another is thinking.

Right kb?

LOL

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kb2222
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Quote from freegratis:
Maybe you should add Deuteronomy 20:16-18 to your list. But it explains it right there.

“But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them: the Hittite and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite, just as the Lord your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the Lord your God.

Does that help you get the theme of when God orders a judgement you seem to disagree with?

What do you think is the appropriate judgement on all those listed who breathe? Do you have a better plan in mind than God?

The OT is rampant with the slaughter of people for all sorts of reasons. No surprise there. You didn't answer my questions. Why is that, freegratis?

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THANK YOU JESUS

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ludlowlowell
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God slaughters unrepentant sinners. Sometmes He slaughters the good with the bad but the good get a heavenly reward.

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kb2222
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If God wanted anyone dead they would be instantly dead. You are a sick perverted man, Ludlow.

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ludlowlowell
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Quite often God does not act directly, but uses human agents. And He is not the wimpy milquetoast pushover you think He is. For one thing, He really hates the racism and polytheism the Urantia Book teaches.

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kb2222
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You are a sick perverted man, Ludlow.

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ludlowlowell
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When KB runs out of logical arguments, he resorts to personal insults.

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kb2222
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You are a sick perverted man, Ludlow.

2/9/2017 12:29:16 AM Is the Book of Revelation God-breathed Scripture? | Page 3  
slowpoke7
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THANK YOU JESUS
for shedding your precious blood on the cross for sinners like me.



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ludlowlowell
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KB trusts in his own righteousness. The true-believing follower of Christ trusts in the Blood of Christ.

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iam_resurrected
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in revelations it says when God returns he will be holding a sickle to remove the tares from the wheat.

this signifies the sinners (tares).

notice what Christ does with them.

the bible reference is pressing them (tares) like grapes until the blood comes up to the horses bridal.

in a sense LUD is accurate in his assessment to what is coming for the lost.

since we know this is the end for the lost should we be more concerned about them rather if the OT is relevant or not?

and of course the ot is relevant because it is all about JESUS



[Edited 2/9/2017 9:38:50 AM ]

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kb2222
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
KB trusts in his own righteousness.

Righteousness is of God, Ludlow, and that's why you don't exhibit it. Instead you shamelessly blaspheme God with your murderous beliefs and teachings in rejection of the teachings of Jesus and even the evolved laws of civilized society.

The true-believing follower of Christ trusts in the Blood of Christ.

God is a Holy Perfect Spirit of Love and has no need for the blood of neither man nor animal, Ludlow. You don't know God, Ludlow, because you reject what Jesus revealed and taught about God just like those who killed Him did and it appears you are going to the grave in that deplorable and blasphemous state as a matter of deliberate choice.

From the UB:

188:4.3 (2016.8) The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil-doing of his ancestors. Neither was the Master’s death on the cross a sacrifice which consisted in an effort to pay God a debt which the race of mankind had come to owe him. *

188:4.4 (2016.9) Before Jesus lived on earth, you might possibly have been justified in believing in such a God, but not since the Master lived and died among your fellow mortals. Moses taught the dignity and justice of a Creator God; but Jesus portrayed the love and mercy of a heavenly Father.

188:4.5 (2016.10) The animal nature — the tendency toward evil-doing — may be hereditary, but sin is not transmitted from parent to child. Sin is the act of conscious and deliberate rebellion against the Father’s will and the Sons’ laws by an individual will creature. *

188:4.6 (2017.1) Jesus lived and died for a whole universe, not just for the races of this one world. While the mortals of the realms had salvation even before Jesus lived and died on Urantia, it is nevertheless a fact that his bestowal on this world greatly illuminated the way of salvation; his death did much to make forever plain the certainty of mortal survival after death in the flesh.

188:4.7 (2017.2) Though it is hardly proper to speak of Jesus as a sacrificer, a ransomer, or a redeemer, it is wholly correct to refer to him as a savior. He forever made the way of salvation (survival) more clear and certain; he did better and more surely show the way of salvation for all the mortals of all the worlds of the universe of Nebadon.

188:4.8 (2017.3) When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

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ludlowlowell
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I migjt be more inclined to believe the Urantia Book if it weren't so racist, eugenicist, and polytheistic.

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kb2222
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Even after reading those UB quotes you can't respond without lying, can you, Ludlow?

What a incorrigible reprobate you have made of yourself.

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ludlowlowell
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I don't lie. The Urantia Book espouses eugenics, a particularly evil form of racism. And the Urantia Book says God has 700,000 "creator sons", which means that it is saying there are 700,000 gods.

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kb2222
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*
Quote from ludlowlowell:
I don't lie. The Urantia Book espouses eugenics, a particularly evil form of racism. And the Urantia Book says God has 700,000 "creator sons", which means that it is saying there are 700,000 gods.

You are a pathetically SICK man, Ludlow. Of course you lie. You lie in just about every post you make and you just lied in saying you "don't lie."

As has been explained to you time and time again there is nothing evil or racists in the humane betterment of the HUMAN RACE. And your assertion that, God the Father, cannot have more than one Son is nothing but church indoctrinated arrogance.

Since you made no response to the rest of my post I repeat it.

Quote from ludlowlowell:
KB trusts in his own righteousness.

Righteousness is of God, Ludlow, and that's why you don't exhibit it. Instead you shamelessly blaspheme God with your murderous beliefs and teachings in rejection of the teachings of Jesus and even the evolved laws of civilized society.

The true-believing follower of Christ trusts in the Blood of Christ.

God is a Holy Perfect Spirit of Love and has no need for the blood of neither man nor animal, Ludlow. You don't know God, Ludlow, because you reject what Jesus revealed and taught about God just like those who killed Him did and it appears you are going to the grave in that deplorable and blasphemous state as a matter of deliberate choice.



[Edited 2/10/2017 10:05:52 AM ]

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2/10/2017 10:58:06 AM Is the Book of Revelation God-breathed Scripture? | Page 3  
freegratis
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Quote from kb2222:
If God wanted anyone dead they would be instantly dead. You are a sick perverted man, Ludlow.


KB,
Do you/Urantians believe in the so-called "Great Commission" Matthew 28:16-20 ?

1 Timothy 2:4 God our Savior desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

If God wants this, then why are all men not instantly saved? Why commission the disciples to build the church? Why does a King command servants to do His will?

Remember this?
"Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven"

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kb2222
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Quote from freegratis:
KB,
Do you/Urantians believe in the so-called "Great Commission" Matthew 28:16-20 ?

1 Timothy 2:4 God our Savior desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

If God wants this, then why are all men not instantly saved? Why commission the disciples to build the church? Why does a King command servants to do His will?

Remember this?
"Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven"

It obvious God didn't make man perfect and I see no reason to respond to these irrelevant and rather dumb questions in response to my post.

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kb2222
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@ freegratis

Quote from kb2222:
You are the one who is lying to yourself. Either that or you are so perverted you don't know righteousness from wickedness or you don't care and you believe God/Jesus doesn't either. For you to profess to be a Christian and believe God/Jesus would order man to...

"slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" and to "kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves"... is utterly DESPICABLE.

What the hell is wrong with you that you believe that is what Jesus would order man to do? What the hell is wrong with you that you believe it righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons?

You saying that to "obey is better than sacrifice" is utter nonsense. How in the hell does that justify in your mind the slaughter of men, women, children, infants and even animals? Or, the killing of non-believers? Or the killing of sons of sinners?

Is your mind truly so perverted that you actually believe it is righteous and just to kill people for all those reasons, freegratis?

Is your mind so perverted that you actually believe that is what Jesus would order man to do, freegratis?

Why don't you answer my questions, freegratis?

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freegratis
Irving, TX
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Quote from kb2222:
@ freegratis

Quote from kb2222:
You are the one who is lying to yourself. Either that or you are so perverted you don't know righteousness from wickedness or you don't care and you believe God/Jesus doesn't either. For you to profess to be a Christian and believe God/Jesus would order man to...

"slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass" and to "kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves"... is utterly DESPICABLE.

What the hell is wrong with you that you believe that is what Jesus would order man to do? What the hell is wrong with you that you believe it righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons?

You saying that to "obey is better than sacrifice" is utter nonsense. How in the hell does that justify in your mind the slaughter of men, women, children, infants and even animals? Or, the killing of non-believers? Or the killing of sons of sinners?

Is your mind truly so perverted that you actually believe it is righteous and just to kill people for all those reasons, freegratis?

Is your mind so perverted that you actually believe that is what Jesus would order man to do, freegratis?

Why don't you answer my questions, freegratis?


I have given you my answers to your questions. You reject my answers. That is your choice.

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freegratis
Irving, TX
50, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from kb2222:
It obvious God didn't make man perfect and I see no reason to respond to these irrelevant and rather dumb questions in response to my post.



If you don't want to face my questions and give an answer, that is also your choice to ignore them. That is how you can maintain your ignorance.

2/13/2017 6:10:58 PM Is the Book of Revelation God-breathed Scripture? | Page 3  

share_n_love
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Quote from freegratis:
If you don't want to face my questions and give an answer, that is also your choice to ignore them. That is how you can maintain your ignorance.


Kb isn't worth discussing anything with....he has never changed his song as long as he has been on here. He is tiring, and most block him after awhile.



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kb2222
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Quote from freegratis:
If you don't want to face my questions and give an answer, that is also your choice to ignore them. That is how you can maintain your ignorance.



2/13/2017 7:35:44 PM Is the Book of Revelation God-breathed Scripture? | Page 3  
cupocheer
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2/15/2017 12:41:11 PM Is the Book of Revelation God-breathed Scripture? | Page 3  
freegratis
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Quote from share_n_love:
Kb isn't worth discussing anything with....he has never changed his song as long as he has been on here. He is tiring, and most block him after awhile.



Hence my post about blocking...

Bad KB, bad

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bigd9832
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I suggest you block kb.

He has nothing to contribute and all he ever does it complain and criticise.

I think he is insane.

But that's just me.

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kb2222
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You church indoctrinated book worshippers who call yourselves Christians are NOT true Christians and that's why you block me. You can't stand the truth of God's loving righteousness if it conflicts with church doctrine about the book they compiled.

Anyone who believes it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for the following absurd reasons and believes that is what Jesus would order man to do is morally confused/corrupt and spiritually lost and no more a true Christian follower of Jesus than were those murderous hypocrites the Pharisees who rejected and killed Him and that's a FACT.

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Block me if you will and go one day to the grave and to judgment with your unchanging blasphemous murderous beliefs about God in rejection of the laws of civilized society and the teachings of Jesus and have your reward if that's your desire.

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freegratis
Irving, TX
50, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from kb2222:
You church indoctrinated book worshippers who call yourselves Christians are NOT true Christians and that's why you block me. You can't stand the truth of God's loving righteousness if it conflicts with church doctrine about the book they compiled.

Anyone who believes it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for the following absurd reasons and believes that is what Jesus would order man to do is morally confused/corrupt and spiritually lost and no more a true Christian follower of Jesus than were those murderous hypocrites the Pharisees who rejected and killed Him and that's a FACT.

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

Block me if you will and go one day to the grave and to judgment with your unchanging blasphemous murderous beliefs about God in rejection of the laws of civilized society and the teachings of Jesus and have your reward if that's your desire.


My heart goes out to these aged 70+ Urantians. That is why I have not blocked you yet. Also, I would prefer to block you per topic, because you surely need instruction.

bigd9832 gave you a line by line answer to your insane repetition. What was your answer?

Einstein is credited to have said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Psychology Today says, "To be clear, insanity is a legal term pertaining to a defendant's ability to determine right from wrong when a crime is committed."

Both may apply to you KB.

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freegratis
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50, joined Dec. 2011


cupocheer,
Are you "making a play" for me?



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kb2222
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Quote from freegratis:
My heart goes out to these aged 70+ Urantians. That is why I have not blocked you yet. Also, I would prefer to block you per topic, because you surely need instruction.

bigd9832 gave you a line by line answer to your insane repetition. What was your answer?

Einstein is credited to have said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Psychology Today says, "To be clear, insanity is a legal term pertaining to a defendant's ability to determine right from wrong when a crime is committed."

Both may apply to you KB.

As I told you before Bigd thinks all bibles are wrong except his CLV translation and he gave his "opinion" rbased on what his CLV says and concluded half of what I list is incorrect based on his interpretation so I asked him to answer the two questions I asked him based on the half he had no problem with and he has steadfastly refused to do so.

If you can determine right from wrong and are sincere then look them up and tell me which ones are incorrect or not in the Bible, freegratis.

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prophetic774
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**AMAZING TREASURES IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION**

Revelation 1:1-3: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must take place. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw--that is the **WORD OF GOD** and the testimony of Jesus Christ. Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it!!


Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!

Revelation 1:19: Jesus said to John, "Write therefore what you have seen, what is **NOW**{Revelation chapters 2 & 3} and what will **TAKE PLACE LATER** {The rest of Revelation}

Revelation 2:9,11,17: Jesus says, "I know your afflictions, and your poverty--yet **YOU ARE RICH**...Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**...To him who overcomes...I will also give him a white stone with a **NEW NAME** written on it known only to him who receives it!!"

Revelation 3:12: Jesus says, "Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from My God, and I will write on him My new name!!"

Revelation 3:19-21: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him and he with Me! To him who overcomes, I will give the right to **SIT WITH ME** on My throne, just as overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation.

Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain , and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!

NOTE: 666 is called the **BEAST** 36 or 6X6 times in the book of Revelation.

Revelation 13:5-10: The beast will exercise his authority for 42 [30-day} months {Or 1260 days}.... He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he will be given authority over *EVERY** tribe, people, language an nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose name have not been written in the Book of Life belonging to the **LAMB** who was slain!! he who has an ear let him hear: If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.

Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!

Revelation 6:9-11: I saw under the altar the souls of these who had been slain because of the Word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until You judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" Then each of them was give a **WHITE ROBE** , and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed!!

It is interesting to note that the **MARTYRS** and the 24 elders are the only saints mentioned as awake and speaking in heaven during the Great Tribulation in Revelation!

Revelation 7:9;13-15: I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the **LAMB**. They were wearing **WHITE ROBES**... Then one of the elders asked me, "These in **WHITE ROBES** who are they, and where did they come from? I answered, Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they {Martyrs} who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have washed their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**! Therefore, they are before the throne of God and serve him night and day and night in His temple, and He who sits on the throne will spread His tent over them!

Revelation 14:14-16: I looked, and there before me was a white cloud and sitting on the cloud was One like a Son of Man with a crown of gold on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand. Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to Him who was sitting on the cloud, "Take your sickle and reap, because the time has come. for the harvest of the earth is ripe." So He who sitting on the cloud swung his sickle on the earth, and the earth was harvested. {See Matt 24:29-31 & I Thess 4:16,17}

Revelation 19:6-8,11,13,14,19,20: Hallelujah! For the Lord God Almighty reigns. Let us rejoice and be glad and give Him glory! For the wedding of the **LAMB** has come and His bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean was given her to wear.... I saw heave standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose Rider is called Faithful and True...He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood and His name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following Him riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen white and clean... Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and His army. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. {See Rev 13:11-17} The two of them were thrown **ALIVE** into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. Rev 20:10 And the devil , who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the first heaven and the first earth **HAD PASSED AWAY** and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud Voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. He who was seated on the throne said, I am making **EVERYTHING NEW** Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are **TRUSTWORTHY** and **TRUE**!!"

Revelation 22:16,18,19: " I,Jesus have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God well add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like Urantia, Louie & TNT} God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem} which are described in this book!"

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Quote from freegratis:
cupocheer,
Are you "making a play" for me?



I was playing shortstop and covering the mound...

while you took out that slider at home.

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Cup and Free, when you guys get married, can I be best man? LOL

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Cup and Free, when you guys get married, can I be best man? LOL


Not unless you have completed the full transition and been to court to get all your legal records changed.



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I'll do it for $5000 and travel expenses.

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Ladies and Gentleman

Special Announcement


Ludlowlowell is the self-proclaimed Wh*re of Babylon.

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I'll do it for $5000 and travel expenses.


Sold your soul to the devil -- heretic.

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cupocheer
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Better "run back" to DGD and try a Hail Mary.

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Okay, okay, I'll do it for $4000!

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Quote from kb2222:
As I told you before Bigd thinks all bibles are wrong except his CLV translation and he gave his "opinion" rbased on what his CLV says and concluded half of what I list is incorrect based on his interpretation so I asked him to answer the two questions I asked him based on the half he had no problem with and he has steadfastly refused to do so.

If you can determine right from wrong and are sincere then look them up and tell me which ones are incorrect or not in the Bible, freegratis.


KB, I may do that next week. Or you can relist "the smaller half" here to make it easier.
My general thought is that it starts with your agreement (or lack of agreement) that the wages of sin is death.
Something along the lines of:
It's God's creation, we are just the creatures living in it.
Demanding wages versus not getting what we deserve and hopefully getting grace instead.

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I'll do it for $5000 and travel expenses.


You can send me that $5000 to my paypal account. Not what you meant?

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Quote from freegratis:
KB, I may do that next week. Or you can relist "the smaller half" here to make it easier.
My general thought is that it starts with your agreement (or lack of agreement) that the wages of sin is death.
Something along the lines of:
It's God's creation, we are just the creatures living in it.
Demanding wages versus not getting what we deserve and hopefully getting grace instead.



How is it you pretend not to know it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake and believe Jesus would order man to kill people for those reasons?

Are you really that morally and spiritually confused/depraved?

It appears so.

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Slowpoke, how is it you pretend not to know it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake and believe Jesus would order man to kill people for all those reasons I posted?

Blasphemy is a sin, slow, don't you know that?

When are you going to remit your sin, slow?

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Such contempt you show for truth, slowpoke.



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KB, how is the racism, eugenics, and polytheism of the Urantia Book even close to the truth?

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Lud, I believe you misused the word "close".

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Just can't stop lying can you, Ludlow?

How is it you pretend not to know it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake and believe Jesus would order man to kill people for those reasons?

Are you really that morally and spiritually confused/depraved?

It appears so.

You have allowed yourself to be deceived and corrupted, Ludlow.

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If God commanded the death penalty for certain mortal sins 2500-3000 years ago then who are you, or I, or anybody, to question that?

God has to be loved for Who He is, not Who we wish Him to be.

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If God commanded the death penalty for certain mortal sins 2500-3000 years ago then who are you, or I, or anybody, to question that?

God has to be loved for Who He is, not Who we wish Him to be.

You are a sick perverted man to believe and teach Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons, Ludlow.

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Jesus sends thousands of people to Hell every day, KB. Jesus, the Second Person of the Trinity, is not squeamish about punishing people with the relatively minor punishments of stoning and burning in this life. After all does He not send floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, and hurricanes to chastise us for our sins? Does He not at least allow war, disease, famine, and wildfires for the same reason?

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Jesus sends thousands of people to Hell every day

~~~HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW WHAT JESUS DOES ANYTIME, LUD?

DID GOD DIE AND LEAVE YOU IN COMMAND? ~~~~

not even worth addressing the rest of this opinionated drivel and second-guessing of God. If you have scripture (and you don't) to support your rhetoric, please post it.



, KB. Jesus, the Second Person of the Trinity, is not squeamish about punishing people with the relatively minor punishments of stoning and burning in this life. After all does He not send floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, and hurricanes to chastise us for our sins? Does He not at least allow war, disease, famine, and wildfires for the same reason?


^useless babel (babble)



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Quote from kb2222:


How is it you pretend not to know it is inhumane wickedness to stone and burn people to death at the stake and believe Jesus would order man to kill people for those reasons?

Are you really that morally and spiritually confused/depraved?

It appears so.


I know a few of us have already told you that we haven't stoned anyone lately and don't plan to do so. But do you agree that God puts in place governments which have God-given authority to take your life if you break the law "practice evil"?


Romans 13:1-7
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.


Hey it looks like ludlowlowell brought up the death penalty.

This is New Testament, KB.

Update your itemized list to state if a King was in power; or the Judges; or if the People did what was right in their own eyes.