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Seriously?

You need to take this message & go on tour through all the red welfare states who are sucking the life out of the blue states who pay for them.

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Nope, no million $ a year, and no subsidy. But as a business owner, i'm fortunate enough to consolidate, and reside in the state of Ohio. The rest i'll leave to your imagination, which apparently runs quite wild once in awhile. Better though you pay the $1200 than me and my employee's. Not that anything you say as per your previous posts would lend me to believe whatever you post now is forthcoming.


You lie !

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Falcooon... you want open borders? Free health care? Free college tution?

3/29/2017 9:46:19 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

longbobby
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Trump KNEW he was being spied on, is still being spied on and can control it there plus he owns it. No extra expense there. Where were all these crybabies when Obozo & Co. spent over $90 MILLION on vacations?

3/29/2017 9:47:54 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

tragicparrot
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Taxpayers spent $97 million on extracurricular activities for Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and their families during his entire 8 years as president. In 56 days in office, taxpayers have spent around $75 million on the same type of expenses for Donald Trump and his family. It's costing taxpayers roughly $500,000 per day to guard Trump Tower, while his trips to Mar-a-Lago ran about $3.5 million each. Oh, and the federal government isn't reimbursing the city of Palm Beach for the $1 million in local expenses (thus far) his frequent trips have cost the city.
Taxpayers are currently spending an average of $1,340,000 per day on these extracurricular expenses for Trump and his family. That projects to a total of $1.9 billion over four years.

Obviously some people get it, and others don't. Any guess here who doesn't?

3/29/2017 9:50:38 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

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Quote from annamally:
You lie !


And you just don't know the truth, much less accept the fact: Trump lies!

3/29/2017 9:50:59 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
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Under the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT aka,OBAMACARE ....1 out of every 6 who applied through the MARKETPLACE and got one of their plans paid $100.00 per month or less.87% of those using the MARKETPLACE received a subsidy.
The ACA premium limit o0n someone earning $3,832 per month which is 400% of the Federal Poverty Limit had a monthly premium limit of $364.00 per month or 9.5% of their monthly income.AND THATS THE FACTS JACK!!

3/29/2017 9:52:35 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

longbobby
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Sux there's no more subsidies, huh?

Good thing your opinion is irrelevant huh?

The fact is Mar-a-Lago doesn't in anyway equal what Obama did. I don't care if you don't admit it. It doesn't change reality.

It's still not the same thing or wrong for him to be there.

Fail is not just acknowledging you fell for fake news and moving on.

3/29/2017 9:53:06 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

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No, the fact is Obamacare is imploding...

For $10 Trillion dollars we could have had free healthcare for the entire nation for life!

So please, let's try not to cloud the facts.

3/29/2017 9:56:48 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

longbobby
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What was extraordinary was that the previous administration had $181 billion in regulatory burdens, 16 billion-dollar rules, and millions of hours of new paperwork pending in the system.

3/29/2017 9:59:21 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Say whatever you want Falcon, my costs have tripled and the deductibles, I don't even know why I'm pay a dime for anything anymore. Obamacare is a welfare program.

Bill Clinton: people have to work two jobs to pay more for less coverage, it's the craziest thing I've ever seen.






Quote from 61falcon:
Under the AFFORDABLE CARE ACT aka,OBAMACARE ....1 out of every 6 who applied through the MARKETPLACE and got one of their plans paid $100.00 per month or less.87% of those using the MARKETPLACE received a subsidy.
The ACA premium limit o0n someone earning $3,832 per month which is 400% of the Federal Poverty Limit had a monthly premium limit of $364.00 per month or 9.5% of their monthly income.AND THATS THE FACTS JACK!!


3/29/2017 10:02:34 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
61falcon
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have seen your bullshit exagerations regarding what you claim to be paying for Obamacare jilly and I think you are full of shit.

3/29/2017 10:05:08 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Falcon, you talk in fictional political talking points. I have to write the checks. F**k off.

3/29/2017 10:07:00 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

tragicparrot
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As an aside here, how can we afford other stuff such as a boarder wall, unnecessary military spending, and not healthcare? Seems to me we should measure the effectiveness of our society and government based on the quality of life of our citizens as a whole. No?

3/29/2017 10:09:26 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

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Silver "Obamacare" plan costs $328 a month - Yahoo Finance
Silver "Obamacare" plan costs $328 a month. ... Wednesday's release also showed the price range of premiums based on the type of plan a ... silver, gold ...
Search domain finance.yahoo.comfinance.yahoo.com/news/silver-obamacare-plan-costs-328-142


$328 a MONTH?

Over $3,600 a year? PER PERSON?

Good Thing Trump took away the mandate.

3/29/2017 10:11:19 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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tragic, is it society's responsibility to make anyone's poor decisions in life to magically go away?

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longbobby
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Quote from longbobby:
Silver "Obamacare" plan costs $328 a month - Yahoo Finance
Silver "Obamacare" plan costs $328 a month. ... Wednesday's release also showed the price range of premiums based on the type of plan a ... silver, gold ...
Search domain finance.yahoo.comfinance.yahoo.com/news/silver-obamacare-plan-costs-328-142


$328 a MONTH?

Over $3,600 a year? PER PERSON?

Good Thing Trump took away the mandate.


Obamacare deductibles are on the rise for 2017, along with ...
Premiums of all silver plans are rising by an average of 17 percent ... Most subsidized Obamacare customers opt for a silver plan, ... $522.45 per month, ...
Search domain www.cnbc.comcnbc.com/2016/10/26/obamacare-deductibles-are-on-t...


$522.45 per month

Over $6,000 a year?

PER PERSON?

Good Thing Trump took away the mandate.

3/29/2017 10:16:26 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

viper1e
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I would LOVE to see all of NYPD just say "F**k Trump" and go home.

3/29/2017 10:19:05 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

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I would LOVE to see all of USA just say "F**k Trump" and go home.

3/29/2017 10:21:16 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

tragicparrot
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Quote from jillybodob:
tragic, is it society's responsibility to make anyone's poor decisions in life to magically go away?


No. But perhaps its about time that whenever certain people in society do, they at least get a another chance to get back on their feet again, especially if their willing to put the effort into it. After all, not everyone gets to start out their career receiving the same break Donald Trump did.

3/29/2017 10:21:33 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

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Yeah well.. Keep dreaming meat head!



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jillybodob
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I'm sure you would both love to see society pay you for the rest of your life as well.

3/29/2017 10:24:31 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
61falcon
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Greedy Old Party has always believed in spending more on things that kill people over those that save peoples lives.Truly the party of hate and self loathing.

3/29/2017 10:25:13 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

longbobby
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The entire criticism of him going there is baseless. It's just smoke and mirrors.

In fact it's the opposite of what they portray. It's awesome given the places history, what he's done with it, and how he's using it.

They're trying to detract from just how bad a** it all is by criticizing it.

It's butthurt of a hitherto unknown degree ever seen by mankind.

3/29/2017 10:25:51 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

tragicparrot
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Quote from jillybodob:
I'm sure you would both love to see society pay you for the rest of your life as well.


What? Are you drunk or something?

3/29/2017 10:27:40 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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tragic, is there a point on societal purpose you wish to make?

3/29/2017 10:30:00 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

stellar007
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I think he is just really-really excited to be talking to you Jilly... What being 97 and all.. LOL

3/29/2017 10:31:32 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Who knows. I listen to thoughts and attitudes.

3/29/2017 10:36:21 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

tragicparrot
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Quote from jillybodob:
tragic, is there a point on societal purpose you wish to make?


Only that you should contribute into it at least as much as anyone else does, instead of just sitting around listening to thoughts and attitudes.

3/29/2017 10:39:28 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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tragic, some people have to pay and they preach self responsibility. Some people pay nothing and expect others to be responsible for them. Which category do you fit into to?

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Dems pay for your social bull shit

3/29/2017 10:46:05 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Dems don't pay for anything, they just borrow in your name. Bernie...free college for all? As we see in the Socialist countries, there is no such thing as choice. Life is boiled down to a Gov't administered test.

Now let's see who here believe's any Gov't in the world is a true unbiased arbiter of fairness for all. Now there's an interesting point to ponder.

3/29/2017 10:59:56 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

longbobby
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After all the sh*t and corruption the liberals have given us -- with crud like Obama and Hillary -- they have no ground to stand on.

The left has lost total credibility in criticizing anyone else unless that person is a libtard, like they are.

3/29/2017 11:05:32 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

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Quote from jillybodob:
tragic, some people have to pay and they preach self responsibility. Some people pay nothing and expect others to be responsible for them. Which category do you fit into to?


I pay my own healthcare because i'm fortunate enough to able to. Never would I insinuate that just because someone couldn't afford healthcare, they would automatically assume everyone else should be held responsible for it. Why else, previous to the ACA, would many of those who were unable to achieve healthcare coverage (veterans included), were simply left for dead? .. So which category do you fit into? F**kstick? Or just plain a**hole?

3/29/2017 11:08:09 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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tragic, what do you say to those who skipped school, never studied, did drugs, and dropped their drawers, and now do nothing and expect you to pay for them to do so?

3/29/2017 11:19:13 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
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Quote from jillybodob:
Dems don't pay for anything, they just borrow in your name. Bernie...free college for all? As we see in the Socialist countries, there is no such thing as choice. Life is boiled down to a Gov't administered test.

Now let's see who here believe's any Gov't in the world is a true unbiased arbiter of fairness for all. Now there's an interesting point to ponder.


biggest moochers are in red run states

you keep on saying the same shit day after day after day........you are one boring poster

so, backup what you say with stats and facts

those who make the most monies in the USA are liberals living in blue run states

those who make the least live in red run states

the EXCESS tax dollars from blue run states oay for the moochers in red run states

pretty simple math........tell your fellow conservatives to pay their fair share


Red States Are Welfare Queens
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8


Now consider the bottom 10, i.e., the ones that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return. From 1 to 10, they are:

New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois, Delaware, California, New York, Colorado.

Anything strange about that list? Yes, they are all blue states (or the deepest of purple).
Adding to this fallacy are the assumptions surrounding Mitt Romney’s now infamous comments about the indolent “47 percent” of Americans who regard themselves as victims and therefore pay no taxes. As the American Conservative magazine (no less) pointed out recently, nine of those 10 states are in the red-as-ruby Old Confederacy.*

3/29/2017 11:27:46 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

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Quote from jillybodob:
tragic, what do you say to those who skipped school, never studied, did drugs, and dropped their drawers, and now do nothing and expect you to pay for them to do so?


Pretty sure i'd share in the very same attitude of anyone else who's worked all their life. That attitude unfortunately, still doesn't justify failing to take care of those who never followed the path you so speak of.

3/29/2017 11:31:56 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Fall, and old tired argument the left always makes. What would Cali be if no infrastructure existed in less populated states. That infrastructure is there for coastal states to move their products produced by other countries. Now Minnesota and Illinois, what drives their economies? Insurance companies. Colorado, really? We can go on and on about this.



Quote from fallguy02379:
biggest moochers are in red run states

you keep on saying the same shit day after day after day........you are one boring poster

so, backup what you say with stats and facts

those who make the most monies in the USA are liberals living in blue run states

those who make the least live in red run states

the EXCESS tax dollars from blue run states oay for the moochers in red run states

pretty simple math........tell your fellow conservatives to pay their fair share


Red States Are Welfare Queens
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8


Now consider the bottom 10, i.e., the ones that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return. From 1 to 10, they are:

New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois, Delaware, California, New York, Colorado.

Anything strange about that list? Yes, they are all blue states (or the deepest of purple).
Adding to this fallacy are the assumptions surrounding Mitt Romney’s now infamous comments about the indolent “47 percent” of Americans who regard themselves as victims and therefore pay no taxes. As the American Conservative magazine (no less) pointed out recently, nine of those 10 states are in the red-as-ruby Old Confederacy.*


3/29/2017 11:34:33 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Tragic, is it wrong to expect others to take responsibility for their decisions in life, or is it right for society to pay them to make their boo boo's feel better, every day for decades upon decades.




Quote from tragicparrot:
Pretty sure i'd share in the very same attitude of anyone else who's worked all their life. That attitude unfortunately, still doesn't justify failing to take care of those who never followed the path you so speak of.


3/29/2017 11:39:23 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
fallguy02379
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Quote from jillybodob:
Fall, and old tired argument the left always makes. What would Cali be if no infrastructure existed in less populated states. That infrastructure is there for coastal states to move their products produced by other countries. Now Minnesota and Illinois, what drives their economies? Insurance companies. Colorado, really? We can go on and on about this.



Quote from fallguy02379:
biggest moochers are in red run states

you keep on saying the same shit day after day after day........you are one boring poster

so, backup what you say with stats and facts

those who make the most monies in the USA are liberals living in blue run states

those who make the least live in red run states

the EXCESS tax dollars from blue run states oay for the moochers in red run states

pretty simple math........tell your fellow conservatives to pay their fair share


Red States Are Welfare Queens
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8


Now consider the bottom 10, i.e., the ones that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return. From 1 to 10, they are:

New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois, Delaware, California, New York, Colorado.

Anything strange about that list? Yes, they are all blue states (or the deepest of purple).
Adding to this fallacy are the assumptions surrounding Mitt Romney’s now infamous comments about the indolent “47 percent” of Americans who regard themselves as victims and therefore pay no taxes. As the American Conservative magazine (no less) pointed out recently, nine of those 10 states are in the red-as-ruby Old Confederacy.*


without the blue states funding the red states they would wither and die

3/29/2017 11:44:15 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Fall, what an ignorant and clueless statement. Be that as it may...

Look at the Federal Gov't budget. How much of is discretionary and non discretionary? Please state what is non discretionary, if you even have a clue.

3/29/2017 11:54:41 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
fallguy02379
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Quote from jillybodob:
Fall, what an ignorant and clueless statement. Be that as it may...

Look at the Federal Gov't budget. How much of is discretionary and non discretionary? Please state what is non discretionary, if you even have a clue.


yes look at the budgets......blue run states contribute more, what is your point again?

spin, deflect all you want..............the government blows our tax dollars and based on every chart out there......the red states don't pay their fair share

pretty simple math

3/29/2017 11:56:46 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
fallguy02379
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good thing republicans never ran congress....oh wait, never mind they shouldn't be help accountable while they are in office

3/29/2017 11:56:59 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Fall, it's easy then, cut off all Federal Gov't payments to every State. Let's see what happens. I'm up for it, you too?

3/29/2017 11:59:32 PM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

nycman530
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The people whining the loudest about Trump's security likely didn't bat an eyebrow about the 15.1 trillion dollar increase in debt over the past 8 years, 5.8 trillion by Bush and 9.3 trillion by Obama.



[Edited 3/30/2017 12:01:26 AM ]

3/30/2017 12:01:32 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jitssbaby617
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With all the jobs he's created,, give him more security

3/30/2017 12:03:28 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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NYC...JFK...the Gov't running deficits is the first sign of weakness. Any politician who wants to continue down this path is a fool. And you and me elect such fools or not. But if your in the Lib Progressive Dem party....you want to continue to be a fool. It's really that simple. Paying 100's of billion for those who skip school, never study, do drugs and drops their drawers should be cut off Gov't welfare.

3/30/2017 12:05:02 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
fallguy02379
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Quote from jillybodob:
Fall, it's easy then, cut off all Federal Gov't payments to every State. Let's see what happens. I'm up for it, you too?


but, the feds count on the blue state tax revenues the most......sure cutoff all states from federal dollars, the red run states would suffer the most

which part confuses you?

3/30/2017 12:08:14 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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Fall, why is the tax rate in States 1/4th the Federal income tax rate when the States actually provide you all the services you depend on and the Fed's provide you what for 4x the tax?

3/30/2017 12:12:47 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

jillybodob
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This country could balance it's budget tomorrow. Ask yourself, when has any Gov't,
Federal or State, spent less in a year than they did before. Never. One big pork fat feast. Time to heat up Gov't and render the fat and let the people keep more of their hard earned wages.

And those who skip school, never study, do drugs, and drop your drawers...deal with your own shit decisions in life.


Quote from jillybodob:
Fall, why is the tax rate in States 1/4th the Federal income tax rate when the States actually provide you all the services you depend on and the Fed's provide you what for 4x the tax?


3/30/2017 12:19:32 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
fallguy02379
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Quote from jillybodob:
This country could balance it's budget tomorrow. Ask yourself, when has any Gov't,
Federal or State, spent less in a year than they did before. Never. One big pork fat feast. Time to heat up Gov't and render the fat and let the people keep more of their hard earned wages.

And those who skip school, never study, do drugs, and drop your drawers...deal with your own shit decisions in life.


Quote from jillybodob:
Fall, why is the tax rate in States 1/4th the Federal income tax rate when the States actually provide you all the services you depend on and the Fed's provide you what for 4x the tax?



“California could very well become an organized non-payer,” said Willie Brown, Jr, a former speaker of the state Assembly in an interview recorded Friday for KPIX 5’s Sunday morning news. “They could recommend non-compliance with the federal tax code.”

California is among a handful of so-called “donor states,” which pay more in taxes to the federal Treasury than they receive in government funding, according to the latest available figures from the non-profit think tank Tax Foundation.

California is among a handful of so-called “donor states,” which pay more in taxes to the federal Treasury than they receive in government funding, according to the latest available figures from the non-profit think tank Tax Foundation.

California is among a handful of so-called “donor states,” which pay more in taxes to the federal Treasury than they receive in government funding, according to the latest available figures from the non-profit think tank Tax Foundation.

California is among a handful of so-called “donor states,” which pay more in taxes to the federal Treasury than they receive in government funding, according to the latest available figures from the non-profit think tank Tax Foundation.

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jillybodob
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Naperville, IL
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geez, making a hole of yourself tonight.

3/30/2017 2:49:14 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

starfox22
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Castle Rock, CO
60, joined Jan. 2009


Quote from 61falcon:
72% of Americans think he should pick up the tab for the Trump Tower security!!



I will agree on this one. I think he should pick up the tab, how you determine exactly what that would be is debatable, anytime Melania leaves the residence then the tab is on us but when she is in the tower that should be billed to Trump. The same guy by the way that is doing the job for $1 a year. Still waiting for Dems to complain about that.

3/30/2017 3:19:51 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
doublethree
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Germantown, TN
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lol. dumbest topic I have ever seen on here, I think. All first families are protected and O's family went on so many vacations and it probably cost more to protect his kids etc... O should offer to pay them back. And while he's at it, since he supposedly cares about inequality, he should donate more to charity.

3/30/2017 5:47:56 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

viper1e
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Greensburg, PA
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Quote from jillybodob:
Dems don't pay for anything, they just borrow in your name. Bernie...free college for all? As we see in the Socialist countries, there is no such thing as choice. Life is boiled down to a Gov't administered test.

Now let's see who here believe's any Gov't in the world is a true unbiased arbiter of fairness for all. Now there's an interesting point to ponder.


Free college for all is no different than free 6th grade for all, or even free 1st grade for all.

3/30/2017 5:51:25 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

cinnamonnhaze
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Minneapolis, MN
54, joined Apr. 2014


Quote from jillybodob:
Paying 100's of billion for those who skip school, never study, do drugs and drops their drawers should be cut off Gov't welfare.



Again Jilly?

Yes, please do cut off the red states from all the welfare the blue states provide.

3/30/2017 5:55:27 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

cinnamonnhaze
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Minneapolis, MN
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Quote from jillybodob:
And those who skip school, never study, do drugs, and drop your drawers...deal with your own shit decisions in life.
3/30/2017 6:12:55 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

cinnamonnhaze
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Minneapolis, MN
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
OH LOOK EVERYONE!!!


The f**king expert is here!!! He's incorrect, but he's here.


3/30/2017 6:35:41 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

nycman530
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Quote from viper1e:
Free college for all is no different than free 6th grade for all, or even free 1st grade for all.


Big difference. Grade school has always been tuition-free, unless you're talking private schools. Not so for college. If we are going to have tuition-free colleges there should be a well-defined selection process, standards that must be met while in school (completion in a certain number of months/years), grade average requirements, etc. Other countries have an intense selection process for their schools for example. My fear is that our colleges will become a permanent resting place for slackers who want to live off the dole. Not everyone is college material. It will attract too many kids who have little to no interest in learning but want an excuse not to get a job, the chance to live away from their parents and the opportunity to party constantly. These kids would flunk out after a semester or two, wasting the taxpayers' money.

3/30/2017 8:32:10 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  

viper1e
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Greensburg, PA
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Quote from nycman530:
Big difference. Grade school has always been tuition-free, unless you're talking private schools. Not so for college. If we are going to have tuition-free colleges there should be a well-defined selection process, standards that must be met while in school (completion in a certain number of months/years), grade average requirements, etc. Other countries have an intense selection process for their schools for example. My fear is that our colleges will become a permanent resting place for slackers who want to live off the dole. Not everyone is college material. It will attract too many kids who have little to no interest in learning but want an excuse not to get a job, the chance to live away from their parents and the opportunity to party constantly. These kids would flunk out after a semester or two, wasting the taxpayers' money.


Perhaps on your home world, but your problem is, this is earth.

Here on earth, most areas have something called a "school board" that assesses property owners a "school tax" that everyone has to pay, whether they have children in school or not.

So nothing is ever "tuition free".

3/30/2017 11:16:36 AM Should Trump pick up the cost of Manhattan security. | Page 3  
61falcon
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New Hope, PA
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starfox, and didn't he also say he would let the press decide which charity his presidential salary would be donated to??That was the last we heard about it??If it is anything like his DONALD J.Trump Foundation which was illegal,relied o0n donations from others to pay Donald's bills and for him to claim having made donations.In other words it was another of his many scams.